The GOP is going to force the Democrats to stop spending


The biggest point is that revenues are still at their lowest levels in over 60 years. Cons keep telling us the problem is spending but ignore the fact that revenues are completely out of whack with historical levels.

Revenues are low because liberal regulations and taxes have forced businesses to leave the US. Deregulation and tax cuts and stopping the union thugs are the only things that will bring them back. India and China and other foreign countries don't have the business strangling regulations, taxes and unions we have here. Now do you see why businesses left the country? Its called free enterprise for a reason. Freedom.

Businesses went over there because those people have a horrible standard of living and will take any amount of pay they can get! It had nothing to do with the unions it had to do with America becoming the most prosperous country in the world! And for businesses to grow they need cheap labor! You can't get that in the U.S. anymore. And guess what... we are still the most prosperous country in the world! The up and coming countries? They're waaaaaaaay behind us! Who has a better standard of living?

And will they overtake us? NO! Because we have tons of natural resources, a great climate, by far the most powerful military, we run the UN, and we are very far from our enemies.

What... do you guys WANT to be India and China??? :cuckoo:
 
The biggest point is that revenues are still at their lowest levels in over 60 years. Cons keep telling us the problem is spending but ignore the fact that revenues are completely out of whack with historical levels.

Revenues are low because liberal regulations and taxes have forced businesses to leave the US. Deregulation and tax cuts and stopping the union thugs are the only things that will bring them back. India and China and other foreign countries don't have the business strangling regulations, taxes and unions we have here. Now do you see why businesses left the country? Its called free enterprise for a reason. Freedom.

Businesses went over there because those people have a horrible standard of living and will take any amount of pay they can get! It had nothing to do with the unions it had to do with America becoming the most prosperous country in the world! And for businesses to grow they need cheap labor! You can't get that in the U.S. anymore. And guess what... we are still the most prosperous country in the world! The up and coming countries? They're waaaaaaaay behind us! Who has a better standard of living?

And will they overtake us? NO! Because we have tons of natural resources, a great climate, by far the most powerful military, we run the UN, and we are very far from our enemies.

What... do you guys WANT to be India and China??? :cuckoo:

We don't need to be India and China we just need to be competative again. Getting rid of the things that made companies leave our country will not turn the US into a third world country. It will bring jobs back here. Are liberals to stupid to see this. American CEOs are patriotic and want to bring their companies back but they want to be profitable.
 
fuck the "balanced" approach...:eusa_hand:

all that means is BO wants to replace any spending cuts with more tax money so he can spend at the same or greater level....

resulting in net spending cuts of....ZERO.......:cuckoo:

bring on the sequester....it will at least slow down the spending rate....

I agree. Even though I am one of those federal employees that will be furloughed I want it to happen, it needs to happen to bring sanity back, although I do believe that as long as Bammie and Biden are in there there wont be any sanity anyways.
 
If You're A Democrat The Argument That There Is No Spending Problem Is Really Very Logical...

obama_doesnt_have_a_spending_problem.jpg
 
We know Republicans spent trillions on tax cuts with 66% going to the top 10%.

We know Republicans spent no money on two wars, the cost of which they handed to Obama.

We know Republicans spending in Iraq cost more than 30,000 young Americans their health for the next 50 years that we now have to pay for costing unknown trillions.

We know Republicans passed a "drugs for votes" bill costing trillions.

So what did Democrats spend money on? A stimulus that was nearly half tax cuts (the only way to get it passed)?

And yet, according to the GOP, it's the Democrats who have a spending problem?????? Really?????

All spending done by Republicans benefits the American people. It protects them from foreign attackers and creates jobs. Spending done by the liberals is just for the welfare and social security leeches liberals created with Roosevelt's New Deal and LBJ's great society. If we do what the Republicans want and take all of these programs away along with the unions, epa, osha, the FTC and their regulations that do nothing but cause frivolous lawsuits and destroy business we could get the USA back working again.

:lol::lol::lol:

Oh, you were serious?
 
We know Republicans spent trillions on tax cuts with 66% going to the top 10%.

We know Republicans spent no money on two wars, the cost of which they handed to Obama.

We know Republicans spending in Iraq cost more than 30,000 young Americans their health for the next 50 years that we now have to pay for costing unknown trillions.

We know Republicans passed a "drugs for votes" bill costing trillions.

So what did Democrats spend money on? A stimulus that was nearly half tax cuts (the only way to get it passed)?

And yet, according to the GOP, it's the Democrats who have a spending problem?????? Really?????

All spending done by Republicans benefits the American people. It protects them from foreign attackers and creates jobs. Spending done by the liberals is just for the welfare and social security leeches liberals created with Roosevelt's New Deal and LBJ's great society. If we do what the Republicans want and take all of these programs away along with the unions, epa, osha, the FTC and their regulations that do nothing but cause frivolous lawsuits and destroy business we could get the USA back working again.

So what you're wanting to do is cut off all welfare, cut off all Social Security, stop workers' right to collective bargain, take away OSHA which was wriiten with the blood of our workers and completely abolish the EPA which protects our environment?

You're a moron. No wonder you have no credibility on this board from either side.
 
WASHINGTON — Believe it or not, there is some bipartisan agreement in Washington, D.C. The problem is Republicans and Democrats agree those automatic spending cuts known as the “sequester” will probably start on Friday, the deadline for a budget agreement.
From Democratic Sen. Claire McCaskill of Missouri: “Unless the Republicans are willing to compromise and do a balanced approach, I think it will kick in.”
And from Republican Sen. Coburn of Oklahoma: “It will kick in…but you’re not going to see $85 billion all of a sudden shrink from the federal government.”
The two senators appeared on “FOX News Sunday.”
Meanwhile, the administration continues to warn of dire consequences. The Transportation Secretary and the Education Secretary made the rounds today offering examples of what will happen if the sequester is triggered on Friday.
“The sequester doesn’t allow us to move money around. That’s the difference here. If we could shift money around, certainly we would do that. These are very tough decisions,” Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”
The roadblock is a budget agreement. President Obama wants what he calls a balanced approach — spending cuts with additional tax revenue. The Republicans refused to increase revenues, saying they already raised taxes on the rich earlier this year.
The cuts set to be triggered on Friday will range from 5 percent to 7 percent for most government departments. They will be phased in over the next six months. Workers, who may be furloughed for up to three weeks, will get 30 days warning before they must stay home.
These are across-the-board cuts that trouble supporters of the Pentagon.
“I can find lots of waste and mismanagement, but, by God, across the board cuts are the worst and most cowardly way to approach this situation,” said Sen. John McCain on CNN’s “State of the Union.”
There is a promise from Democrats that something will be passed in the Senate this week to stop sequestration.
“We will vote on something this week. And it will be a balanced approach. It will do both spending cuts, and it will close some loopholes — some really important loopholes that need to be closed just from the sense of fairness in our tax code,” McCaskill said.
But such a bill is unlikely to get through the Republican House.
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Since Obama and the democrats won't listen to reason it is up to the Republicans in the House to stop the over spending by the government. If sequester is the only way to stop the liberals and the welfare leeches so be it.

I admire you consistency, CaGO, even though I disagree with your basic premise.

At least you're not being hypocritical.

And on this board, any right winging Obama hater who is not ALSO a giagantic hypocrite is a person worth lauding

Good for you, man!
 
Revenues are low because liberal regulations and taxes have forced businesses to leave the US. Deregulation and tax cuts and stopping the union thugs are the only things that will bring them back. India and China and other foreign countries don't have the business strangling regulations, taxes and unions we have here. Now do you see why businesses left the country? Its called free enterprise for a reason. Freedom.

Businesses went over there because those people have a horrible standard of living and will take any amount of pay they can get! It had nothing to do with the unions it had to do with America becoming the most prosperous country in the world! And for businesses to grow they need cheap labor! You can't get that in the U.S. anymore. And guess what... we are still the most prosperous country in the world! The up and coming countries? They're waaaaaaaay behind us! Who has a better standard of living?

And will they overtake us? NO! Because we have tons of natural resources, a great climate, by far the most powerful military, we run the UN, and we are very far from our enemies.

What... do you guys WANT to be India and China??? :cuckoo:

We don't need to be India and China we just need to be competative again. Getting rid of the things that made companies leave our country will not turn the US into a third world country. It will bring jobs back here. Are liberals to stupid to see this. American CEOs are patriotic and want to bring their companies back but they want to be profitable.

Sad, isn't it? A genius like you can take advantage of other people's inclination to take you at your word. You are the coolest!
 
We know Republicans spent trillions on tax cuts with 66% going to the top 10%.

We know Republicans spent no money on two wars, the cost of which they handed to Obama.

We know Republicans spending in Iraq cost more than 30,000 young Americans their health for the next 50 years that we now have to pay for costing unknown trillions.

We know Republicans passed a "drugs for votes" bill costing trillions.

So what did Democrats spend money on? A stimulus that was nearly half tax cuts (the only way to get it passed)?

And yet, according to the GOP, it's the Democrats who have a spending problem?????? Really?????

All spending done by Republicans benefits the American people. It protects them from foreign attackers and creates jobs. Spending done by the liberals is just for the welfare and social security leeches liberals created with Roosevelt's New Deal and LBJ's great society. If we do what the Republicans want and take all of these programs away along with the unions, epa, osha, the FTC and their regulations that do nothing but cause frivolous lawsuits and destroy business we could get the USA back working again.

LMFAO. Hey, a comedian has joined the board. That is some funny shit you wrote. Especially that part about; all spending done by rethugs benefits the American people.
LMAO.

And in case you haven't heard from your rethug brethern, the hated government DOES NOT CREATE JOBS. Just ask any rethug about that.
 
We know Republicans spent trillions on tax cuts with 66% going to the top 10%.

We know Republicans spent no money on two wars, the cost of which they handed to Obama.

We know Republicans spending in Iraq cost more than 30,000 young Americans their health for the next 50 years that we now have to pay for costing unknown trillions.

We know Republicans passed a "drugs for votes" bill costing trillions.

So what did Democrats spend money on? A stimulus that was nearly half tax cuts (the only way to get it passed)?

And yet, according to the GOP, it's the Democrats who have a spending problem?????? Really?????

All spending done by Republicans benefits the American people. It protects them from foreign attackers and creates jobs. Spending done by the liberals is just for the welfare and social security leeches liberals created with Roosevelt's New Deal and LBJ's great society. If we do what the Republicans want and take all of these programs away along with the unions, epa, osha, the FTC and their regulations that do nothing but cause frivolous lawsuits and destroy business we could get the USA back working again.

This isn't serious though, right? :eusa_eh:

If government spending is bad then it's bad regardless of party.
 

so we should just ignore increasing taxes too......as if they don't exist either.....:eusa_whistle:

Taxes are not "going up" because the tax breaks have been lifted. You should have been paying the full amount the whole time. If we didn't have cuts, we wouldn't be in as bad of a situation.

Regardless of what you think people "should" have been paying, if somebody is paying more in taxes than they were previously then their taxes have objectively gone up.
 
We know Republicans spent trillions on tax cuts with 66% going to the top 10%.

We know Republicans spent no money on two wars, the cost of which they handed to Obama.

We know Republicans spending in Iraq cost more than 30,000 young Americans their health for the next 50 years that we now have to pay for costing unknown trillions.

We know Republicans passed a "drugs for votes" bill costing trillions.

So what did Democrats spend money on? A stimulus that was nearly half tax cuts (the only way to get it passed)?

And yet, according to the GOP, it's the Democrats who have a spending problem?????? Really?????

All spending done by Republicans benefits the American people. It protects them from foreign attackers and creates jobs. Spending done by the liberals is just for the welfare and social security leeches liberals created with Roosevelt's New Deal and LBJ's great society. If we do what the Republicans want and take all of these programs away along with the unions, epa, osha, the FTC and their regulations that do nothing but cause frivolous lawsuits and destroy business we could get the USA back working again.

LMFAO. Hey, a comedian has joined the board. That is some funny shit you wrote. Especially that part about; all spending done by rethugs benefits the American people.
LMAO.

And in case you haven't heard from your rethug brethern, the hated government DOES NOT CREATE JOBS. Just ask any rethug about that.

The run away spending by the federal government to support liberal entitlement programs started this country on the road to ruin. George W. Bush was in the process of bringing prosperity back when the democrats took over in 2006. With the liberals back in control of Congress all of the good that was done with his tax cuts was quickly erased and the economy crashed. Liberals weren't paying attention to the facts during those years. But they never do. If John Boehner and Mitch McConnell can keep Obama and the democrats in check for the next 4 years the Republicans will win the White House and Congress hands down. By then voters will have seen the damage socialists can cause.
 
WASHINGTON — Believe it or not, there is some bipartisan agreement in Washington, D.C. The problem is Republicans and Democrats agree those automatic spending cuts known as the “sequester” will probably start on Friday, the deadline for a budget agreement.
From Democratic Sen. Claire McCaskill of Missouri: “Unless the Republicans are willing to compromise and do a balanced approach, I think it will kick in.”
And from Republican Sen. Coburn of Oklahoma: “It will kick in…but you’re not going to see $85 billion all of a sudden shrink from the federal government.”
The two senators appeared on “FOX News Sunday.”
Meanwhile, the administration continues to warn of dire consequences. The Transportation Secretary and the Education Secretary made the rounds today offering examples of what will happen if the sequester is triggered on Friday.
“The sequester doesn’t allow us to move money around. That’s the difference here. If we could shift money around, certainly we would do that. These are very tough decisions,” Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”
The roadblock is a budget agreement. President Obama wants what he calls a balanced approach — spending cuts with additional tax revenue. The Republicans refused to increase revenues, saying they already raised taxes on the rich earlier this year.
The cuts set to be triggered on Friday will range from 5 percent to 7 percent for most government departments. They will be phased in over the next six months. Workers, who may be furloughed for up to three weeks, will get 30 days warning before they must stay home.
These are across-the-board cuts that trouble supporters of the Pentagon.
“I can find lots of waste and mismanagement, but, by God, across the board cuts are the worst and most cowardly way to approach this situation,” said Sen. John McCain on CNN’s “State of the Union.”
There is a promise from Democrats that something will be passed in the Senate this week to stop sequestration.
“We will vote on something this week. And it will be a balanced approach. It will do both spending cuts, and it will close some loopholes — some really important loopholes that need to be closed just from the sense of fairness in our tax code,” McCaskill said.
But such a bill is unlikely to get through the Republican House.
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Since Obama and the democrats won't listen to reason it is up to the Republicans in the House to stop the over spending by the government. If sequester is the only way to stop the liberals and the welfare leeches so be it.
Get serious. Do you really think Republicans in the House will stay the course when their supporters start putting the pressure on. When contract cancellations hit, the FAA, starts cutting back on flight controllers, and Wall Street starts talking recession, Republicans will start falling like a house of cards.

If the Republicans fold the Tea Party will get stronger. I think the Republicans know this and will see who they need to serve to stay in office.
Only 28% of the Republicans are Tea Party. The rest have other agendas. There are few politicians in Washington that will stick to their principals when their supporters and constituents turn against them. I think this is why Wall Street is confident a deal will be struck before there is any serious damage to the economy.


The many faces of the Republican Party
 
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPKNqNnXL9Y]Thom Hartmann: Republicans ran up the debt & now they don't want to pay the bill - YouTube[/ame]
 
We need to bleed.

Bleed out but good.
It's a cleansing thing.
Dry it up, flesh it out. Field dress the carcass.

Shock to the system.

Shock to the System by Yes - YouTube

Dreaming all the time
They be dreaming all the time...
We gave up bloodletting as a useless medical treatment in the 19th century. Hopefully in 21st century we will adopt a balanced approach to controlling federal deficits.
 

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