Constitution and spending.

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

biden is president and trump receives fair trials for his crimes.

I'll bet you typed that with your fingers crossed!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Trump said he is going to do even more than Biden. He is going to rewrite the budget and cancel spending he disagrees with.

This by the way would be the budget the Congress has voted on and he signed.

Congress does not sign a budget you moron. He does not have to sign it.

 

[Dekster]

Biden wanted to forgive $400b of student loans, aka "buying votes", now he's trying to forgive $127b, congress is taking that to the USSC. Even Nancy Pelosi said that Biden can't forgive student loans w/o congressional approval.

Supreme Court strikes down Biden student-loan forgiveness program - SCOTUSblog

This article was updated on June 30 at 4:00 p.m. By a vote of 6-3, the justices ruled that the Biden administration overstepped its authority last year when it announced that it would cancel up to $400 billion in student loans. The Biden administration had said that as many as 43 million Americans

www.scotusblog.com

"By a vote of 6-3, the justices ruled that the Biden administration overstepped its authority last year when it announced that it would cancel up to $400 billion in student loans."

https://www.axios.com/2023/10/06/student-loan-debt-forgiveness-biden

Despite the setback, Biden's administration has delivered relief for some borrowers by circumventing the need for Congressional or court approval. He's used the Department of Education's existing authority to wipe $127 billion of student debt for roughly 3.6 million people since 2021.

The SCOTUS ruling was on whether he could arbitrarily do everybody gets something under the heroes act authority. Since then the Department of Ed has used its authority under the higher Ed Act going through the normal rules making process and lawsuits so far have failed pretty quickly challenging the rules changes. Even the most recent one on the SAVE payment plan had almost all the red states except 3 dismissed for having no standing and nobody of any significance believes it will be successful because Congress specifically gave the Dept of Ed authority to establish the income contingent repayment plan terms in 1994. Lawsuits on the 1 time adjustment have continuously failed for lack of standing because it gives borrowers the option to elect not to receive it thereby defeating GOP efforts to manufacture harm under their red state spite taxes on forgiveness. That will likely be the fate of the lawsuits that will challenge the forthcoming enhanced one-time adjustment plan that is designed to clear the books of all the pre-2000 federal student loans because those are the ones that are the most screwed up in terms of records that are making the one-time adjustment a more herculean task than originally anticipated.

 

[BluesLegend]

So what. You rely on semantics to lie. Joey bribem is simply using a different avenue to violate the COTUS.

Joe Biden has BYPASSED the people's representatives in congress who control the purse strings, and ignored the SCOTUS by going full dictator buying votes with taxpayer money for $10,000 to $30,000 per vote. BLATANT corruption. Show me the student loan forgiveness legislation, it doesn't exist.

 

[leftwinger]

biden is president and trump receives fair trials for his crimes.

And you’re an Arse-Jack. Go take a nap you old fool.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Student loans are being forgiven.

Yep, just not using the HEROES Act, as per the SCOTUS

 

[westwall]

Yep, just not using the HEROES Act, as per the SCOTUS

But still ILLEGAL!

DURRRRRR

 

[my2¢]

Yep, just not using the HEROES Act, as per the SCOTUS

Exactly, the Supreme Court didn't rule against forgiving student loans any more than it forbid spending on the border wall.

The trouble with the system is that there is so much money available at the president's discretion that if one way is blocked often another means remains open. Congress needs to do its job and reduce spending allocations.

 

[SavannahMann]

Congress does not sign a budget you moron. He does not have to sign it.

Read a little closer and then see who the moron is.

 

[OKTexas]

We hear endlessly about how awful Washington, Democrats, and even the so called RINO Republicans are in Congress for spending money on things that the minority think is wrong. Well good news for you all. It turns out that our foremost Constitutional Scholar, Donald Trump, has decided the President has unilateral power to direct spending.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2024/06/07/trump-budget-impoundment-congress/

Now, Biden is called a Dictator by the Right Wing, because he gets spending through the congress. But Trump, isn’t even pretending that he will get it through Congress. He will just do whatever he wants, and everyone can just go suck it.

So you were saying about who the Dictator is?

People today have no freaking clue what constitutional spending is, since the supremes put the Constitution on its head, when they declared, in the 1930s, "general welfare" to be a power and not a spending category as the founders intended.

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[OKTexas]

The SCOTUS ruling was on whether he could arbitrarily do everybody gets something under the heroes act authority. Since then the Department of Ed has used its authority under the higher Ed Act going through the normal rules making process and lawsuits so far have failed pretty quickly challenging the rules changes. Even the most recent one on the SAVE payment plan had almost all the red states except 3 dismissed for having no standing and nobody of any significance believes it will be successful because Congress specifically gave the Dept of Ed authority to establish the income contingent repayment plan terms in 1994. Lawsuits on the 1 time adjustment have continuously failed for lack of standing because it gives borrowers the option to elect not to receive it thereby defeating GOP efforts to manufacture harm under their red state spite taxes on forgiveness. That will likely be the fate of the lawsuits that will challenge the forthcoming enhanced one-time adjustment plan that is designed to clear the books of all the pre-2000 federal student loans because those are the ones that are the most screwed up in terms of records that are making the one-time adjustment a more herculean task than originally anticipated.

Poor thing, any forgiven loan is considered taxable income, doesn't matter if it's credit card or student loans. That applies to State and federal taxes.

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[Missourian]

We hear endlessly about how awful Washington, Democrats, and even the so called RINO Republicans are in Congress for spending money on things that the minority think is wrong. Well good news for you all. It turns out that our foremost Constitutional Scholar, Donald Trump, has decided the President has unilateral power to direct spending.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2024/06/07/trump-budget-impoundment-congress/

Now, Biden is called a Dictator by the Right Wing, because he gets spending through the congress. But Trump, isn’t even pretending that he will get it through Congress. He will just do whatever he wants, and everyone can just go suck it.

So you were saying about who the Dictator is?

Where did the college loan forgiveness money that the Supreme Court deemed unconstitutional come from? A magic money tree behind the White House?

Supreme Court strikes down Biden student-loan forgiveness program - SCOTUSblog

This article was updated on June 30 at 4:00 p.m. By a vote of 6-3, the justices ruled that the Biden administration overstepped its authority last year when it announced that it would cancel up to $400 billion in student loans. The Biden administration had said that as many as 43 million Americans

www.scotusblog.com

EDIT- after reading the thread I see I'm late to the party slapping the shit out of the OP and the Usual Suspects Biden apologists. Good job.

 

[CowboyTed]

Why do you all keep parroting this lie. The SCOTUS ruled that Biden could not use a specific program to forgive student loans. That program is not being used.

He parrots a lie because the truth and facts don't work...

 

[SavannahMann]

Where did the college loan forgiveness money that the Supreme Court deemed unconstitutional come from? A magic money tree behind the White House?

Supreme Court strikes down Biden student-loan forgiveness program - SCOTUSblog

This article was updated on June 30 at 4:00 p.m. By a vote of 6-3, the justices ruled that the Biden administration overstepped its authority last year when it announced that it would cancel up to $400 billion in student loans. The Biden administration had said that as many as 43 million Americans

www.scotusblog.com

EDIT- after reading the thread I see I'm late to the party slapping the shit out of the OP and the Usual Suspects Biden apologists. Good job.

Yes you are late. But answer this question if you would. Why is your answer the usual Trump may be awful and a dictator but Biden is worse?

 

[Dekster]

Poor thing, any forgiven loan is considered taxable income, doesn't matter if it's credit card or student loans. That applies to State and federal taxes.

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Poor thing no it isn't. PSLF are not ever taxable discharges at the end of the 10 years and all federal student loan discharges are federally tax exempt by act of Congress through the end of next year. Only a handful of GOP states rushed to make them taxable on state law hoping it would give people standing to sue to stop them. They got outplayed by Biden which added the opt out option to strip that standing right away again by giving them a way to avoid the alleged harm.

 

[Missourian]

Yes you are late. But answer this question if you would. Why is your answer the usual Trump may be awful and a dictator but Biden is worse?

Nope. Trump is the best President of my post teenaged life.

 

[SavannahMann]

Nope. Trump is the best President of my post teenaged life.

Either you are very young or fed a diet of propaganda that would make me puke.

 

[OKTexas]

Poor thing no it isn't. PSLF are not ever taxable discharges at the end of the 10 years and all federal student loan discharges are federally tax exempt by act of Congress through the end of next year. Only a handful of GOP states rushed to make them taxable on state law hoping it would give people standing to sue to stop them. They got outplayed by Biden which added the opt out option to strip that standing right away again by giving them a way to avoid the alleged harm.

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[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Read a little closer and then see who the moron is.

Trump does not have to sign it, does he?

 

[SavannahMann]

Trump does not have to sign it, does he?

Trump is saying that it doesn’t matter what is in the signed budget. He will direct money where he wants.