The Homosexual Dilemma

[Syriusly]

The times they are a changing.

Just as predicted by the architects of the Gay Agenda
What they didn't account for was the backlash ...s

Backlash- is that bigot talk for you getting more and more pissed off that it is no longer acceptable for you to bitch slap homosexuals?

The backlash right now is that never in American history have Americans judged a person less based upon who they love- on whether they may- or may not be gay.

And haters like you hate that.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

You think that the metastasization of homosexuality is new, hip, and unprecedented?

You ignorant moron, societies have been killed off by homosexuality for thousands of years going all the way back to ancient Mesopotamia.

We're not the dinosaurs, you are. And you'll fare no better than they did. I just hope I see the sign to get out before the sulfur starts raining on your gay parade.

1. Mesopotamia wasn't a society, it's an area where several societies (i.e. the Sumarians, Assyrians, the Babylonians) rose and fell. (Mesopotamia means "land between the rivers)
2. List ONE, just ONE society that was killed off by homosexuality. And, of course, you've got to show us some kind of evidence that homosexuality was the culprit.

TIA

Sodom and Gomorrah.

Fiction. And even in the book that talks about them, the crime they were punished for was inhospitality.

Is that what you're going to do, say that every historical event that puts on stage the thunderous fall of societies that embrace homosexuality is fiction? Please let me know because I won't waste any more time on you.

The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah by god is not a historical event. We are waiting for you to provide those examples.

Yes it is. Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed because of the outcry of their neighbors. This is what was told to Lot. It became an oppressive force and one way or another it had to be stopped. It's the first recorded example of a homosexual culture destroying itself. I'm not going to even bother moving on to Greece and Rome if you're an idiot that denies history. There's no way to have a rational discussion with you.

 

[bodecea]

1. Mesopotamia wasn't a society, it's an area where several societies (i.e. the Sumarians, Assyrians, the Babylonians) rose and fell. (Mesopotamia means "land between the rivers)
2. List ONE, just ONE society that was killed off by homosexuality. And, of course, you've got to show us some kind of evidence that homosexuality was the culprit.

TIA

Sodom and Gomorrah.

Fiction. And even in the book that talks about them, the crime they were punished for was inhospitality.

Is that what you're going to do, say that every historical event that puts on stage the thunderous fall of societies that embrace homosexuality is fiction? Please let me know because I won't waste any more time on you.

The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah by god is not a historical event. We are waiting for you to provide those examples.

Yes it is. Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed because of the outcry of their neighbors. This is what was told to Lot. It became an oppressive force and one way or another it had to be stopped. It's the first recorded example of a homosexual culture destroying itself. I'm not going to even bother moving on to Greece and Rome if you're an idiot that denies history. There's no way to have a rational discussion with you.

Where are the ruins? If these were two cities....there should be ruins like there are of Jericho, of Ur, of Troy. Where are they?

And once again...if you go by the bible...those two "cities" were not destroyed because of homosexuality....they were destroyed because of their inhospitality to strangers.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

You think that the metastasization of homosexuality is new, hip, and unprecedented?

You ignorant moron, societies have been killed off by homosexuality for thousands of years going all the way back to ancient Mesopotamia.

We're not the dinosaurs, you are. And you'll fare no better than they did. I just hope I see the sign to get out before the sulfur starts raining on your gay parade.

1. Mesopotamia wasn't a society, it's an area where several societies (i.e. the Sumarians, Assyrians, the Babylonians) rose and fell. (Mesopotamia means "land between the rivers)
2. List ONE, just ONE society that was killed off by homosexuality. And, of course, you've got to show us some kind of evidence that homosexuality was the culprit.

TIA

Sodom and Gomorrah.

Fiction. And even in the book that talks about them, the crime they were punished for was inhospitality.

Is that what you're going to do, say that every historical event that puts on stage the thunderous fall of societies that embrace homosexuality is fiction? Please let me know because I won't waste any more time on you.

Soooooo, where are the ruins?

One other point....while you keep saying things like "every historical event that puts on stage the thunderous fall of societies" you can only list two cities (not societies, btw) that anyone anywhere has any archaeological evidence EVEN EXISTED. And if you go by the bible, which I assume you are, even that states they were destroyed over the inhospitality of their people....NOT homosexuality.

Incorrect. The answer to why the cities were destroyed is recorded in Genesis "because the outcry to the Lord against them has become great" (Genesis 19:13)

Let's review the evidence. When two angels came to the house of Lot, Genesis records that "all the men from every part of the city of Sodom, young and old, surrounded the house, saying to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight. Bring them out so we can have sex with them." When Lot offered his daughters, they refused, for they were attracted to the angels who were men, not to women.

So in summary, EVERY MAN in the city wanted to rape the angels who visited Lot. No wonder the angel reported that all their neighbors decried their oppression. The city was full of roving gangs of homosexual rapists.

Now you on the Left who despise God and God's word to begin with have set up a contradiction that doesn't exist. Ezekiel 16 mentions Sodom saying "Now this was the sin of your Sister Sodom, she and her daughters were arrogant and overfed. They were not concerned for the poor and needy and did not help them." This wasn't a refutation to the main reason that the cities were destroyed, but a corollary of its initial sin. Cities who hold as it's highest value the indulgence of the flesh and the oppression of human decency are utterly bereft of charity. Selfish people don't take care of the poor and homosexuals are indeed selfish.

But the Bible is clear on why the cities were destroyed, Jude 7 confirming, "Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."

There's no doubt what the Bible says about the destruction of those cities and the reason for it. It only becomes unclear to those who hate God, despise his righteousness, and will twist his words to pervert their meaning. That's you.

 

[bodecea]

1. Mesopotamia wasn't a society, it's an area where several societies (i.e. the Sumarians, Assyrians, the Babylonians) rose and fell. (Mesopotamia means "land between the rivers)
2. List ONE, just ONE society that was killed off by homosexuality. And, of course, you've got to show us some kind of evidence that homosexuality was the culprit.

TIA

Sodom and Gomorrah.

Fiction. And even in the book that talks about them, the crime they were punished for was inhospitality.

Is that what you're going to do, say that every historical event that puts on stage the thunderous fall of societies that embrace homosexuality is fiction? Please let me know because I won't waste any more time on you.

Soooooo, where are the ruins?

One other point....while you keep saying things like "every historical event that puts on stage the thunderous fall of societies" you can only list two cities (not societies, btw) that anyone anywhere has any archaeological evidence EVEN EXISTED. And if you go by the bible, which I assume you are, even that states they were destroyed over the inhospitality of their people....NOT homosexuality.

Incorrect. The answer to why the cities were destroyed is recorded in Genesis "because the outcry to the Lord against them has become great" (Genesis 19:13)

Let's review the evidence. When two angels came to the house of Lot, Genesis records that "all the men from every part of the city of Sodom, young and old, surrounded the house, saying to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight. Bring them out so we can have sex with them." When Lot offered his daughters, they refused, for they were attracted to the angels who were men, not to women.

So in summary, EVERY MAN in the city wanted to rape the angels who visited Lot. No wonder the angel reported that all their neighbors decried their oppression. The city was full of roving gangs of homosexual rapists.

Now you on the Left who despise God and God's word to begin with have set up a contradiction that doesn't exist. Ezekiel 16 mentions Sodom saying "Now this was the sin of your Sister Sodom, she and her daughters were arrogant and overfed. They were not concerned for the poor and needy and did not help them." This wasn't a refutation to the main reason that the cities were destroyed, but a corollary of its initial sin. Cities who hold as it's highest value the indulgence of the flesh and the oppression of human decency are utterly bereft of charity. Selfish people don't take care of the poor and homosexuals are indeed selfish.

But the Bible is clear on why the cities were destroyed, Jude 7 confirming, "Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."

There's no doubt what the Bible says about the destruction of those cities and the reason for it. It only becomes unclear to those who hate God, despise his righteousness, and will twist his words to pervert their meaning. That's you.

This is what the bible says:

Jeremiah 23 14 And among the prophets of Jerusalem I have seen something horrible They commit adultery and live a lie. They strengthen the hands of evildoers so that not one of them turns from their wickedness. They are all like Sodom to me the people of Jerusalem are like Gomorrah.

Hmmmm...."adultery" they say? Adultery? Not homosexuality.

 

[bodecea]

1. Mesopotamia wasn't a society, it's an area where several societies (i.e. the Sumarians, Assyrians, the Babylonians) rose and fell. (Mesopotamia means "land between the rivers)
2. List ONE, just ONE society that was killed off by homosexuality. And, of course, you've got to show us some kind of evidence that homosexuality was the culprit.

TIA

Sodom and Gomorrah.

Fiction. And even in the book that talks about them, the crime they were punished for was inhospitality.

Is that what you're going to do, say that every historical event that puts on stage the thunderous fall of societies that embrace homosexuality is fiction? Please let me know because I won't waste any more time on you.

Soooooo, where are the ruins?

One other point....while you keep saying things like "every historical event that puts on stage the thunderous fall of societies" you can only list two cities (not societies, btw) that anyone anywhere has any archaeological evidence EVEN EXISTED. And if you go by the bible, which I assume you are, even that states they were destroyed over the inhospitality of their people....NOT homosexuality.

Incorrect. The answer to why the cities were destroyed is recorded in Genesis "because the outcry to the Lord against them has become great" (Genesis 19:13)

Let's review the evidence. When two angels came to the house of Lot, Genesis records that "all the men from every part of the city of Sodom, young and old, surrounded the house, saying to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight. Bring them out so we can have sex with them." When Lot offered his daughters, they refused, for they were attracted to the angels who were men, not to women.

So in summary, EVERY MAN in the city wanted to rape the angels who visited Lot. No wonder the angel reported that all their neighbors decried their oppression. The city was full of roving gangs of homosexual rapists.

Now you on the Left who despise God and God's word to begin with have set up a contradiction that doesn't exist. Ezekiel 16 mentions Sodom saying "Now this was the sin of your Sister Sodom, she and her daughters were arrogant and overfed. They were not concerned for the poor and needy and did not help them." This wasn't a refutation to the main reason that the cities were destroyed, but a corollary of its initial sin. Cities who hold as it's highest value the indulgence of the flesh and the oppression of human decency are utterly bereft of charity. Selfish people don't take care of the poor and homosexuals are indeed selfish.

But the Bible is clear on why the cities were destroyed, Jude 7 confirming, "Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."

There's no doubt what the Bible says about the destruction of those cities and the reason for it. It only becomes unclear to those who hate God, despise his righteousness, and will twist his words to pervert their meaning. That's you.

Lot was supposedly a "good man". So good he offered his virgin daughters to the crowd. Now, why would he offer his daughters if he knew they were homosexuals? Doesn't that seem a little odd to you?

 

[GreenBean]

The times they are a changing.

Just as predicted by the architects of the Gay Agenda
What they didn't account for was the backlash ...s

Backlash- is that bigot talk for you getting more and more pissed off that it is no longer acceptable for you to bitch slap homosexuals?

The backlash right now is that never in American history have Americans judged a person less based upon who they love- on whether they may- or may not be gay.

And haters like you hate that.

In Colorado, a baker says he’d close his business before decorating a cake for a same-sex wedding. In Washington state, a florist is refusing to provide flowers for a longtime customer’s marriage ceremony. In Iowa, a husband and wife who host weddings in a converted church say only opposite-sex couples are welcome.

“The result of Hobby Lobby is political war,” said Marci Hamilton, a religious-freedom expert who teaches at Yeshiva University’s Benjamin N. Cardozo Law School. Evangelical groups advocating religious rights are “energized and mobilized. Their problem -- and I think they know it -- is that they have now energized and mobilized the silent majority as to both contraception and discrimination.”

At stake is how the country will reconcile deep-seated disagreements over competing rights to religious exercise, free speech and equal treatment.

On one side are people who say a refusal to do business with gay couples should be every bit as illegal as racial discrimination. On the other are those who argue that business owners shouldn’t be forced to violate their consciences as the price of pursuing their profession.

So far, religious-liberty advocates have found little success, at least when pressing their arguments before civil-rights agencies and judges. The New Mexico Human Rights Commission concluded that a wedding photographer, Elaine Huguenin, violated a state anti-discrimination law by refusing to take pictures of a same-sex couple’s commitment ceremony.

The Supreme Court in April turned away the photographer’s appeal without a hearing. Huguenin has since stopped taking wedding photographs, said Jeremy Tedesco, a lawyer with the Alliance Defending Freedom, which represented her.

“Her faith has excluded her from an entire area of business that’s actually quite important for photographers,” Tedesco said.

A growing number of states are considering legislation that would allow businesses to refuse service to LGBT people justifying it as “promoting religious freedom,”

 

[GreenBean]

Sodom and Gomorrah.

Fiction. And even in the book that talks about them, the crime they were punished for was inhospitality.

Is that what you're going to do, say that every historical event that puts on stage the thunderous fall of societies that embrace homosexuality is fiction? Please let me know because I won't waste any more time on you.

Soooooo, where are the ruins?

One other point....while you keep saying things like "every historical event that puts on stage the thunderous fall of societies" you can only list two cities (not societies, btw) that anyone anywhere has any archaeological evidence EVEN EXISTED. And if you go by the bible, which I assume you are, even that states they were destroyed over the inhospitality of their people....NOT homosexuality.

Incorrect. The answer to why the cities were destroyed is recorded in Genesis "because the outcry to the Lord against them has become great" (Genesis 19:13)

Let's review the evidence. When two angels came to the house of Lot, Genesis records that "all the men from every part of the city of Sodom, young and old, surrounded the house, saying to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight. Bring them out so we can have sex with them." When Lot offered his daughters, they refused, for they were attracted to the angels who were men, not to women.

So in summary, EVERY MAN in the city wanted to rape the angels who visited Lot. No wonder the angel reported that all their neighbors decried their oppression. The city was full of roving gangs of homosexual rapists.

Now you on the Left who despise God and God's word to begin with have set up a contradiction that doesn't exist. Ezekiel 16 mentions Sodom saying "Now this was the sin of your Sister Sodom, she and her daughters were arrogant and overfed. They were not concerned for the poor and needy and did not help them." This wasn't a refutation to the main reason that the cities were destroyed, but a corollary of its initial sin. Cities who hold as it's highest value the indulgence of the flesh and the oppression of human decency are utterly bereft of charity. Selfish people don't take care of the poor and homosexuals are indeed selfish.

But the Bible is clear on why the cities were destroyed, Jude 7 confirming, "Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."

There's no doubt what the Bible says about the destruction of those cities and the reason for it. It only becomes unclear to those who hate God, despise his righteousness, and will twist his words to pervert their meaning. That's you.

This is what the bible says:

Jeremiah 23 14 And among the prophets of Jerusalem I have seen something horrible They commit adultery and live a lie. They strengthen the hands of evildoers so that not one of them turns from their wickedness. They are all like Sodom to me the people of Jerusalem are like Gomorrah.

Hmmmm...."adultery" they say? Adultery? Not homosexuality.

Hey Slimey - you know nothing of theology or etymology - The tale of Sodom and Gomorrah was about faggots and other assorted perverts - people we today call LGBT .

Lot met the angels in the city square and urged them to stay at his house. The angels agreed. The Bible then informs us, "Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom — both young and old — surrounded the house. They called to Lot, 'Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.'" The angels then proceed to blind all the men of Sodom and Gomorrah and urge Lot and his family to flee from the cities to escape the wrath that God was about to deliver.

Genesis 19:5
New International Version
They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."

New Living Translation
They shouted to Lot, "Where are the men who came to spend the night with you? Bring them out to us so we can have sex with them!"

English Standard Version
And they called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us, that we may know them.”

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Sodom and Gomorrah.

Fiction. And even in the book that talks about them, the crime they were punished for was inhospitality.

Is that what you're going to do, say that every historical event that puts on stage the thunderous fall of societies that embrace homosexuality is fiction? Please let me know because I won't waste any more time on you.

Soooooo, where are the ruins?

One other point....while you keep saying things like "every historical event that puts on stage the thunderous fall of societies" you can only list two cities (not societies, btw) that anyone anywhere has any archaeological evidence EVEN EXISTED. And if you go by the bible, which I assume you are, even that states they were destroyed over the inhospitality of their people....NOT homosexuality.

Incorrect. The answer to why the cities were destroyed is recorded in Genesis "because the outcry to the Lord against them has become great" (Genesis 19:13)

Let's review the evidence. When two angels came to the house of Lot, Genesis records that "all the men from every part of the city of Sodom, young and old, surrounded the house, saying to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight. Bring them out so we can have sex with them." When Lot offered his daughters, they refused, for they were attracted to the angels who were men, not to women.

So in summary, EVERY MAN in the city wanted to rape the angels who visited Lot. No wonder the angel reported that all their neighbors decried their oppression. The city was full of roving gangs of homosexual rapists.

Now you on the Left who despise God and God's word to begin with have set up a contradiction that doesn't exist. Ezekiel 16 mentions Sodom saying "Now this was the sin of your Sister Sodom, she and her daughters were arrogant and overfed. They were not concerned for the poor and needy and did not help them." This wasn't a refutation to the main reason that the cities were destroyed, but a corollary of its initial sin. Cities who hold as it's highest value the indulgence of the flesh and the oppression of human decency are utterly bereft of charity. Selfish people don't take care of the poor and homosexuals are indeed selfish.

But the Bible is clear on why the cities were destroyed, Jude 7 confirming, "Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."

There's no doubt what the Bible says about the destruction of those cities and the reason for it. It only becomes unclear to those who hate God, despise his righteousness, and will twist his words to pervert their meaning. That's you.

This is what the bible says:

Jeremiah 23 14 And among the prophets of Jerusalem I have seen something horrible They commit adultery and live a lie. They strengthen the hands of evildoers so that not one of them turns from their wickedness. They are all like Sodom to me the people of Jerusalem are like Gomorrah.

Hmmmm...."adultery" they say? Adultery? Not homosexuality.

Now you're just being thick. I've already explained what the Bible says both in Genesis and confirmed yet again in Jude. That there were other sins is not a contradiction to why the cities were destroyed. You're doing nothing more than illustrating my point about people who pervert the word of God because of their contempt for God's righteousness.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Fiction. And even in the book that talks about them, the crime they were punished for was inhospitality.

Is that what you're going to do, say that every historical event that puts on stage the thunderous fall of societies that embrace homosexuality is fiction? Please let me know because I won't waste any more time on you.

Soooooo, where are the ruins?

One other point....while you keep saying things like "every historical event that puts on stage the thunderous fall of societies" you can only list two cities (not societies, btw) that anyone anywhere has any archaeological evidence EVEN EXISTED. And if you go by the bible, which I assume you are, even that states they were destroyed over the inhospitality of their people....NOT homosexuality.

Incorrect. The answer to why the cities were destroyed is recorded in Genesis "because the outcry to the Lord against them has become great" (Genesis 19:13)

Let's review the evidence. When two angels came to the house of Lot, Genesis records that "all the men from every part of the city of Sodom, young and old, surrounded the house, saying to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight. Bring them out so we can have sex with them." When Lot offered his daughters, they refused, for they were attracted to the angels who were men, not to women.

So in summary, EVERY MAN in the city wanted to rape the angels who visited Lot. No wonder the angel reported that all their neighbors decried their oppression. The city was full of roving gangs of homosexual rapists.

Now you on the Left who despise God and God's word to begin with have set up a contradiction that doesn't exist. Ezekiel 16 mentions Sodom saying "Now this was the sin of your Sister Sodom, she and her daughters were arrogant and overfed. They were not concerned for the poor and needy and did not help them." This wasn't a refutation to the main reason that the cities were destroyed, but a corollary of its initial sin. Cities who hold as it's highest value the indulgence of the flesh and the oppression of human decency are utterly bereft of charity. Selfish people don't take care of the poor and homosexuals are indeed selfish.

But the Bible is clear on why the cities were destroyed, Jude 7 confirming, "Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."

There's no doubt what the Bible says about the destruction of those cities and the reason for it. It only becomes unclear to those who hate God, despise his righteousness, and will twist his words to pervert their meaning. That's you.

This is what the bible says:

Jeremiah 23 14 And among the prophets of Jerusalem I have seen something horrible They commit adultery and live a lie. They strengthen the hands of evildoers so that not one of them turns from their wickedness. They are all like Sodom to me the people of Jerusalem are like Gomorrah.

Hmmmm...."adultery" they say? Adultery? Not homosexuality.

Hey Slimey - you know nothing of theology or etymology - The tale of Sodom and Gomorrah was about faggots and other assorted perverts - people we today call LGBT .

Lot met the angels in the city square and urged them to stay at his house. The angels agreed. The Bible then informs us, "Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom — both young and old — surrounded the house. They called to Lot, 'Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.'" The angels then proceed to blind all the men of Sodom and Gomorrah and urge Lot and his family to flee from the cities to escape the wrath that God was about to deliver.

Genesis 19:5
New International Version
They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."

New Living Translation
They shouted to Lot, "Where are the men who came to spend the night with you? Bring them out to us so we can have sex with them!"

English Standard Version
And they called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us, that we may know them.”

Little faggot-hater, you've lost, so now what? What Jesusland are you going to move to?

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Fiction. And even in the book that talks about them, the crime they were punished for was inhospitality.

Is that what you're going to do, say that every historical event that puts on stage the thunderous fall of societies that embrace homosexuality is fiction? Please let me know because I won't waste any more time on you.

Soooooo, where are the ruins?

One other point....while you keep saying things like "every historical event that puts on stage the thunderous fall of societies" you can only list two cities (not societies, btw) that anyone anywhere has any archaeological evidence EVEN EXISTED. And if you go by the bible, which I assume you are, even that states they were destroyed over the inhospitality of their people....NOT homosexuality.

Incorrect. The answer to why the cities were destroyed is recorded in Genesis "because the outcry to the Lord against them has become great" (Genesis 19:13)

Let's review the evidence. When two angels came to the house of Lot, Genesis records that "all the men from every part of the city of Sodom, young and old, surrounded the house, saying to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight. Bring them out so we can have sex with them." When Lot offered his daughters, they refused, for they were attracted to the angels who were men, not to women.

So in summary, EVERY MAN in the city wanted to rape the angels who visited Lot. No wonder the angel reported that all their neighbors decried their oppression. The city was full of roving gangs of homosexual rapists.

Now you on the Left who despise God and God's word to begin with have set up a contradiction that doesn't exist. Ezekiel 16 mentions Sodom saying "Now this was the sin of your Sister Sodom, she and her daughters were arrogant and overfed. They were not concerned for the poor and needy and did not help them." This wasn't a refutation to the main reason that the cities were destroyed, but a corollary of its initial sin. Cities who hold as it's highest value the indulgence of the flesh and the oppression of human decency are utterly bereft of charity. Selfish people don't take care of the poor and homosexuals are indeed selfish.

But the Bible is clear on why the cities were destroyed, Jude 7 confirming, "Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."

There's no doubt what the Bible says about the destruction of those cities and the reason for it. It only becomes unclear to those who hate God, despise his righteousness, and will twist his words to pervert their meaning. That's you.

This is what the bible says:

Jeremiah 23 14 And among the prophets of Jerusalem I have seen something horrible They commit adultery and live a lie. They strengthen the hands of evildoers so that not one of them turns from their wickedness. They are all like Sodom to me the people of Jerusalem are like Gomorrah.

Hmmmm...."adultery" they say? Adultery? Not homosexuality.

Hey Slimey - you know nothing of theology or etymology - The tale of Sodom and Gomorrah was about faggots and other assorted perverts - people we today call LGBT .

Lot met the angels in the city square and urged them to stay at his house. The angels agreed. The Bible then informs us, "Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom — both young and old — surrounded the house. They called to Lot, 'Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.'" The angels then proceed to blind all the men of Sodom and Gomorrah and urge Lot and his family to flee from the cities to escape the wrath that God was about to deliver.

Genesis 19:5
New International Version
They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."

New Living Translation
They shouted to Lot, "Where are the men who came to spend the night with you? Bring them out to us so we can have sex with them!"

English Standard Version
And they called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us, that we may know them.”

I've already given them this info. What's remarkable is that EVERY MAN in the city wanted to rape those angels, yet the homosexual Left insists that homosexuality was not the main issue. People who hate God and God's word will not endure the rightly divided word of truth.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Sodom and Gomorrah.

Fiction. And even in the book that talks about them, the crime they were punished for was inhospitality.

Is that what you're going to do, say that every historical event that puts on stage the thunderous fall of societies that embrace homosexuality is fiction? Please let me know because I won't waste any more time on you.

Soooooo, where are the ruins?

One other point....while you keep saying things like "every historical event that puts on stage the thunderous fall of societies" you can only list two cities (not societies, btw) that anyone anywhere has any archaeological evidence EVEN EXISTED. And if you go by the bible, which I assume you are, even that states they were destroyed over the inhospitality of their people....NOT homosexuality.

Incorrect. The answer to why the cities were destroyed is recorded in Genesis "because the outcry to the Lord against them has become great" (Genesis 19:13)

Let's review the evidence. When two angels came to the house of Lot, Genesis records that "all the men from every part of the city of Sodom, young and old, surrounded the house, saying to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight. Bring them out so we can have sex with them." When Lot offered his daughters, they refused, for they were attracted to the angels who were men, not to women.

So in summary, EVERY MAN in the city wanted to rape the angels who visited Lot. No wonder the angel reported that all their neighbors decried their oppression. The city was full of roving gangs of homosexual rapists.

Now you on the Left who despise God and God's word to begin with have set up a contradiction that doesn't exist. Ezekiel 16 mentions Sodom saying "Now this was the sin of your Sister Sodom, she and her daughters were arrogant and overfed. They were not concerned for the poor and needy and did not help them." This wasn't a refutation to the main reason that the cities were destroyed, but a corollary of its initial sin. Cities who hold as it's highest value the indulgence of the flesh and the oppression of human decency are utterly bereft of charity. Selfish people don't take care of the poor and homosexuals are indeed selfish.

But the Bible is clear on why the cities were destroyed, Jude 7 confirming, "Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."

There's no doubt what the Bible says about the destruction of those cities and the reason for it. It only becomes unclear to those who hate God, despise his righteousness, and will twist his words to pervert their meaning. That's you.

Lot was supposedly a "good man". So good he offered his virgin daughters to the crowd. Now, why would he offer his daughters if he knew they were homosexuals? Doesn't that seem a little odd to you?

Such a good man that after his wife was turned to salt he got drunk and fucked his daughters, two nights in a row. And God? God said nothing.

 

[GreenBean]

Sodom and Gomorrah.

Fiction. And even in the book that talks about them, the crime they were punished for was inhospitality.

Is that what you're going to do, say that every historical event that puts on stage the thunderous fall of societies that embrace homosexuality is fiction? Please let me know because I won't waste any more time on you.

The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah by god is not a historical event. We are waiting for you to provide those examples.

Yes it is. Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed because of the outcry of their neighbors. This is what was told to Lot. It became an oppressive force and one way or another it had to be stopped. It's the first recorded example of a homosexual culture destroying itself. I'm not going to even bother moving on to Greece and Rome if you're an idiot that denies history. There's no way to have a rational discussion with you.

Where are the ruins? If these were two cities....there should be ruins like there are of Jericho, of Ur, of Troy. Where are they?

And once again...if you go by the bible...those two "cities" were not destroyed because of homosexuality....they were destroyed because of their inhospitality to strangers.

The ruins of Sodom and Gomorah are in Pakistan - they are known as Mohenjo-Daro. It is actually the ruins of twin cities and modern science can not explain how it was destroyed .

"When archeologists got to the street level, people were lying dead in the street - after thousands of years." David H. Childress / Technology of the Gods: The Incredible Sciences of the Ancients

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Had a natural catastrophe, disease, or conventional war brought down Mohenjo Daro the bodies of its citizenry would have been ravaged by animals , and the city plundered by subsequent looters over the centuries. This never happened, Dozens of skeletons were found in the area of Mohenjo-Daro – their radioactivity exceeded the norm almost 50 times.


Russian researchers found a skeleton with a radioactive level 50 times greater than normal. Other cities have been found in northern India which also show evidence of intense explosions .{Riddles of Ancient History - Sputnik Magazine - Alexander Gorbovsky}

Atomic warfare in Ancient India

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Fiction. And even in the book that talks about them, the crime they were punished for was inhospitality.

Is that what you're going to do, say that every historical event that puts on stage the thunderous fall of societies that embrace homosexuality is fiction? Please let me know because I won't waste any more time on you.

The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah by god is not a historical event. We are waiting for you to provide those examples.

Yes it is. Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed because of the outcry of their neighbors. This is what was told to Lot. It became an oppressive force and one way or another it had to be stopped. It's the first recorded example of a homosexual culture destroying itself. I'm not going to even bother moving on to Greece and Rome if you're an idiot that denies history. There's no way to have a rational discussion with you.

Where are the ruins? If these were two cities....there should be ruins like there are of Jericho, of Ur, of Troy. Where are they?

And once again...if you go by the bible...those two "cities" were not destroyed because of homosexuality....they were destroyed because of their inhospitality to strangers.

The ruins of Sodom and Gomorah are in Pakistan - they are known as Mohenjo-Daro. It is actually the ruins of twin cities and modern science can not explain how it was destroyed .

"When archeologists got to the street level, people were lying dead in the street - after thousands of years." David H. Childress / Technology of the Gods: The Incredible Sciences of the Ancients

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Had a natural catastrophe, disease, or conventional war brought down Mohenjo Daro the bodies of its citizenry would have been ravaged by animals , and the city plundered by subsequent looters over the centuries. This never happened, Dozens of skeletons were found in the area of Mohenjo-Daro – their radioactivity exceeded the norm almost 50 times.


Russian researchers found a skeleton with a radioactive level 50 times greater than normal. Other cities have been found in northern India which also show evidence of intense explosions .{Riddles of Ancient History - Sputnik Magazine - Alexander Gorbovsky}

Atomic warfare in Ancient India

Boy you really eat that Biblical Bullshit up don't you little Christian? A laugh a minute.

Got news for you, there is no talking donkey, no giants, no burning bush. And Jesus, well he finally figured out that he fucked up, on the cross when his God let him die, naked, like any other treasonous scum of Rome.

 

[GreenBean]

Is that what you're going to do, say that every historical event that puts on stage the thunderous fall of societies that embrace homosexuality is fiction? Please let me know because I won't waste any more time on you.

Soooooo, where are the ruins?

One other point....while you keep saying things like "every historical event that puts on stage the thunderous fall of societies" you can only list two cities (not societies, btw) that anyone anywhere has any archaeological evidence EVEN EXISTED. And if you go by the bible, which I assume you are, even that states they were destroyed over the inhospitality of their people....NOT homosexuality.

Incorrect. The answer to why the cities were destroyed is recorded in Genesis "because the outcry to the Lord against them has become great" (Genesis 19:13)

Let's review the evidence. When two angels came to the house of Lot, Genesis records that "all the men from every part of the city of Sodom, young and old, surrounded the house, saying to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight. Bring them out so we can have sex with them." When Lot offered his daughters, they refused, for they were attracted to the angels who were men, not to women.

So in summary, EVERY MAN in the city wanted to rape the angels who visited Lot. No wonder the angel reported that all their neighbors decried their oppression. The city was full of roving gangs of homosexual rapists.

Now you on the Left who despise God and God's word to begin with have set up a contradiction that doesn't exist. Ezekiel 16 mentions Sodom saying "Now this was the sin of your Sister Sodom, she and her daughters were arrogant and overfed. They were not concerned for the poor and needy and did not help them." This wasn't a refutation to the main reason that the cities were destroyed, but a corollary of its initial sin. Cities who hold as it's highest value the indulgence of the flesh and the oppression of human decency are utterly bereft of charity. Selfish people don't take care of the poor and homosexuals are indeed selfish.

But the Bible is clear on why the cities were destroyed, Jude 7 confirming, "Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."

There's no doubt what the Bible says about the destruction of those cities and the reason for it. It only becomes unclear to those who hate God, despise his righteousness, and will twist his words to pervert their meaning. That's you.

This is what the bible says:

Jeremiah 23 14 And among the prophets of Jerusalem I have seen something horrible They commit adultery and live a lie. They strengthen the hands of evildoers so that not one of them turns from their wickedness. They are all like Sodom to me the people of Jerusalem are like Gomorrah.

Hmmmm...."adultery" they say? Adultery? Not homosexuality.

Hey Slimey - you know nothing of theology or etymology - The tale of Sodom and Gomorrah was about faggots and other assorted perverts - people we today call LGBT .

Lot met the angels in the city square and urged them to stay at his house. The angels agreed. The Bible then informs us, "Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom — both young and old — surrounded the house. They called to Lot, 'Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.'" The angels then proceed to blind all the men of Sodom and Gomorrah and urge Lot and his family to flee from the cities to escape the wrath that God was about to deliver.

Genesis 19:5
New International Version
They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."

New Living Translation
They shouted to Lot, "Where are the men who came to spend the night with you? Bring them out to us so we can have sex with them!"

English Standard Version
And they called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us, that we may know them.”

I've already given them this info. What's remarkable is that EVERY MAN in the city wanted to rape those angels, yet the homosexual Left insists that homosexuality was not the main issue. People who hate God and God's word will not endure the rightly divided word of truth.

Actually St.Mike - I am not a Christian or Jew - but do know my scriptures - and the story of Sodom and Gomorrah was primarily about Homosexuals - it's not even debatable.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Soooooo, where are the ruins?

One other point....while you keep saying things like "every historical event that puts on stage the thunderous fall of societies" you can only list two cities (not societies, btw) that anyone anywhere has any archaeological evidence EVEN EXISTED. And if you go by the bible, which I assume you are, even that states they were destroyed over the inhospitality of their people....NOT homosexuality.

Incorrect. The answer to why the cities were destroyed is recorded in Genesis "because the outcry to the Lord against them has become great" (Genesis 19:13)

Let's review the evidence. When two angels came to the house of Lot, Genesis records that "all the men from every part of the city of Sodom, young and old, surrounded the house, saying to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight. Bring them out so we can have sex with them." When Lot offered his daughters, they refused, for they were attracted to the angels who were men, not to women.

So in summary, EVERY MAN in the city wanted to rape the angels who visited Lot. No wonder the angel reported that all their neighbors decried their oppression. The city was full of roving gangs of homosexual rapists.

Now you on the Left who despise God and God's word to begin with have set up a contradiction that doesn't exist. Ezekiel 16 mentions Sodom saying "Now this was the sin of your Sister Sodom, she and her daughters were arrogant and overfed. They were not concerned for the poor and needy and did not help them." This wasn't a refutation to the main reason that the cities were destroyed, but a corollary of its initial sin. Cities who hold as it's highest value the indulgence of the flesh and the oppression of human decency are utterly bereft of charity. Selfish people don't take care of the poor and homosexuals are indeed selfish.

But the Bible is clear on why the cities were destroyed, Jude 7 confirming, "Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."

There's no doubt what the Bible says about the destruction of those cities and the reason for it. It only becomes unclear to those who hate God, despise his righteousness, and will twist his words to pervert their meaning. That's you.

This is what the bible says:

Jeremiah 23 14 And among the prophets of Jerusalem I have seen something horrible They commit adultery and live a lie. They strengthen the hands of evildoers so that not one of them turns from their wickedness. They are all like Sodom to me the people of Jerusalem are like Gomorrah.

Hmmmm...."adultery" they say? Adultery? Not homosexuality.

Hey Slimey - you know nothing of theology or etymology - The tale of Sodom and Gomorrah was about faggots and other assorted perverts - people we today call LGBT .

Lot met the angels in the city square and urged them to stay at his house. The angels agreed. The Bible then informs us, "Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom — both young and old — surrounded the house. They called to Lot, 'Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.'" The angels then proceed to blind all the men of Sodom and Gomorrah and urge Lot and his family to flee from the cities to escape the wrath that God was about to deliver.

Genesis 19:5
New International Version
They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."

New Living Translation
They shouted to Lot, "Where are the men who came to spend the night with you? Bring them out to us so we can have sex with them!"

English Standard Version
And they called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us, that we may know them.”

I've already given them this info. What's remarkable is that EVERY MAN in the city wanted to rape those angels, yet the homosexual Left insists that homosexuality was not the main issue. People who hate God and God's word will not endure the rightly divided word of truth.

Actually St.Mike - I am not a Christian or Jew - but do know my scriptures - and the story of Sodom and Gomorrah was primarily about Homosexuals - it's not even debatable.

S and M was about the lack of Righteous Men. And then there's Lot, the man who got drunk and fucked both his daughters.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Is that what you're going to do, say that every historical event that puts on stage the thunderous fall of societies that embrace homosexuality is fiction? Please let me know because I won't waste any more time on you.

Soooooo, where are the ruins?

One other point....while you keep saying things like "every historical event that puts on stage the thunderous fall of societies" you can only list two cities (not societies, btw) that anyone anywhere has any archaeological evidence EVEN EXISTED. And if you go by the bible, which I assume you are, even that states they were destroyed over the inhospitality of their people....NOT homosexuality.

Incorrect. The answer to why the cities were destroyed is recorded in Genesis "because the outcry to the Lord against them has become great" (Genesis 19:13)

Let's review the evidence. When two angels came to the house of Lot, Genesis records that "all the men from every part of the city of Sodom, young and old, surrounded the house, saying to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight. Bring them out so we can have sex with them." When Lot offered his daughters, they refused, for they were attracted to the angels who were men, not to women.

So in summary, EVERY MAN in the city wanted to rape the angels who visited Lot. No wonder the angel reported that all their neighbors decried their oppression. The city was full of roving gangs of homosexual rapists.

Now you on the Left who despise God and God's word to begin with have set up a contradiction that doesn't exist. Ezekiel 16 mentions Sodom saying "Now this was the sin of your Sister Sodom, she and her daughters were arrogant and overfed. They were not concerned for the poor and needy and did not help them." This wasn't a refutation to the main reason that the cities were destroyed, but a corollary of its initial sin. Cities who hold as it's highest value the indulgence of the flesh and the oppression of human decency are utterly bereft of charity. Selfish people don't take care of the poor and homosexuals are indeed selfish.

But the Bible is clear on why the cities were destroyed, Jude 7 confirming, "Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."

There's no doubt what the Bible says about the destruction of those cities and the reason for it. It only becomes unclear to those who hate God, despise his righteousness, and will twist his words to pervert their meaning. That's you.

This is what the bible says:

Jeremiah 23 14 And among the prophets of Jerusalem I have seen something horrible They commit adultery and live a lie. They strengthen the hands of evildoers so that not one of them turns from their wickedness. They are all like Sodom to me the people of Jerusalem are like Gomorrah.

Hmmmm...."adultery" they say? Adultery? Not homosexuality.

Hey Slimey - you know nothing of theology or etymology - The tale of Sodom and Gomorrah was about faggots and other assorted perverts - people we today call LGBT .

Lot met the angels in the city square and urged them to stay at his house. The angels agreed. The Bible then informs us, "Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom — both young and old — surrounded the house. They called to Lot, 'Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.'" The angels then proceed to blind all the men of Sodom and Gomorrah and urge Lot and his family to flee from the cities to escape the wrath that God was about to deliver.

Genesis 19:5
New International Version
They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."

New Living Translation
They shouted to Lot, "Where are the men who came to spend the night with you? Bring them out to us so we can have sex with them!"

English Standard Version
And they called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us, that we may know them.”

I've already given them this info. What's remarkable is that EVERY MAN in the city wanted to rape those angels, yet the homosexual Left insists that homosexuality was not the main issue. People who hate God and God's word will not endure the rightly divided word of truth.

Well they had no issues fucking his virgin daughters now did they? And then Lot fucked them too, over the next two nights. That's what the Bible says.

 

[GreenBean]

Marriage is absolutely a right.

Marriage is a RITE not a right - its also a privilege to be Right - one you will never enjoy - RIGHT ?

Marriage is contract law written by the states and administered by state courts; marriage is a union of two consenting equal adult partners recognized by the state – same- or opposite-sex.

As a fact of Constitutional law marriage is indeed a right, so too is it a right that same-sex couples be allowed access to marriage contract law they're eligible to participate in; to seek to deny same-sex couples access to marriage contract law they're eligible to participate in violates the Due Process Clause and Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment.

Well put - Bravo ! however you need to learn to distinguish between your personal Opinions and Facts.

I know that being a Liberal , distinguishing between fact and fantasy is sometimes difficult - especially considering your well documented over active imagination, your ability to bend reality to suit your agenda and your extremely exaggerated sense of self worth - but do give it a try - it's actually psychologically healthy to be honest with ones self and others occasionally - Honesty ...hmmm...something else you've never achieved either.

No need to Thank me for the free Psychological Advice - glad to have been of service.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

In Colorado, a baker says he’d close his business before decorating a cake for a same-sex wedding. In Washington state, a florist is refusing to provide flowers for a longtime customer’s marriage ceremony. In Iowa, a husband and wife who host weddings in a converted church say only opposite-sex couples are welcome.

Either do your fucking job or close the business, your call.

 

[Syriusly]

Marriage is absolutely a right.

Marriage is a RITE not a right - its also a privilege to be Right - one you will never enjoy - RIGHT ?

Marriage is contract law written by the states and administered by state courts; marriage is a union of two consenting equal adult partners recognized by the state – same- or opposite-sex.

As a fact of Constitutional law marriage is indeed a right, so too is it a right that same-sex couples be allowed access to marriage contract law they're eligible to participate in; to seek to deny same-sex couples access to marriage contract law they're eligible to participate in violates the Due Process Clause and Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment.

Well put - Bravo ! however you need to learn to distinguish between your personal Opinions and Facts.
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Clearly he is able to to distinguish between personal opinions and facts- and you are not.

Marriage is indeed a right.

Loving v Virginia

"The freedom to marry has long been recognized as one of the vital personal rights essential to the orderly pursuit of happiness by free men."

"Marriage is one of the 'basic civil rights of man,' fundamental to our very existence and survival."

Zablocki v. Rehail

AlthoughLovingarose in the context of racial discrimination, prior and subsequent decisions of this Court confirm that the right to marry is of fundamental importance for all individuals.

Maynard v. Hill,125 U. S. 190(1888), the Court characterized marriage as "the most important relation in life,"id.at125 U. S. 205, and as "the foundation of the family and of society, without which there would be neither civilization nor progress,"

InMeyer v. Nebraska,262 U. S. 390(1923), the Court recognized that the right "to marry, establish a home and bring up children" is a central part of the liberty protected by the Due Process Clause,

InGriswold v. Connecticut,381 U. S. 479(1965), the Court observed:

"We deal with a right of privacy older than the Bill of Rights -- older than our political parties, older than our school system. Marriage is a coming together for better or for worse, hopefully enduring, and intimate to the degree of being sacred. It is an association that promotes a way of life, not causes; a harmony in living, not political faiths; a bilateral loyalty, not commercial or social projects. Yet it is an association for as noble a purpose as any involved in our prior decisions."

Carey v. Population Services International,431 U. S. 678(1977)

"While the outer limits of [the right of personal privacy] have not been marked by the Court, it is clear that among the decisions that an individual may make without unjustified government interference are personal decisions 'relating to marriage,

Cleveland Board of Education v. LaFleur

"This Court has long recognized that freedom of personal choice in matters of marriage and family life is one of the liberties protected by the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment"