The Homosexual Dilemma

[Syriusly]

Soooooo, where are the ruins?

One other point....while you keep saying things like "every historical event that puts on stage the thunderous fall of societies" you can only list two cities (not societies, btw) that anyone anywhere has any archaeological evidence EVEN EXISTED. And if you go by the bible, which I assume you are, even that states they were destroyed over the inhospitality of their people....NOT homosexuality.

Incorrect. The answer to why the cities were destroyed is recorded in Genesis "because the outcry to the Lord against them has become great" (Genesis 19:13)

Let's review the evidence. When two angels came to the house of Lot, Genesis records that "all the men from every part of the city of Sodom, young and old, surrounded the house, saying to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight. Bring them out so we can have sex with them." When Lot offered his daughters, they refused, for they were attracted to the angels who were men, not to women.

So in summary, EVERY MAN in the city wanted to rape the angels who visited Lot. No wonder the angel reported that all their neighbors decried their oppression. The city was full of roving gangs of homosexual rapists.

Now you on the Left who despise God and God's word to begin with have set up a contradiction that doesn't exist. Ezekiel 16 mentions Sodom saying "Now this was the sin of your Sister Sodom, she and her daughters were arrogant and overfed. They were not concerned for the poor and needy and did not help them." This wasn't a refutation to the main reason that the cities were destroyed, but a corollary of its initial sin. Cities who hold as it's highest value the indulgence of the flesh and the oppression of human decency are utterly bereft of charity. Selfish people don't take care of the poor and homosexuals are indeed selfish.

But the Bible is clear on why the cities were destroyed, Jude 7 confirming, "Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."

There's no doubt what the Bible says about the destruction of those cities and the reason for it. It only becomes unclear to those who hate God, despise his righteousness, and will twist his words to pervert their meaning. That's you.

This is what the bible says:

Jeremiah 23 14 And among the prophets of Jerusalem I have seen something horrible They commit adultery and live a lie. They strengthen the hands of evildoers so that not one of them turns from their wickedness. They are all like Sodom to me the people of Jerusalem are like Gomorrah.

Hmmmm...."adultery" they say? Adultery? Not homosexuality.

Hey Slimey - you know nothing of theology or etymology - The tale of Sodom and Gomorrah was about faggots and other assorted perverts - people we today call LGBT .

Lot met the angels in the city square and urged them to stay at his house. The angels agreed. The Bible then informs us, "Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom — both young and old — surrounded the house. They called to Lot, 'Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.'" The angels then proceed to blind all the men of Sodom and Gomorrah and urge Lot and his family to flee from the cities to escape the wrath that God was about to deliver.

Genesis 19:5
New International Version
They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."

New Living Translation
They shouted to Lot, "Where are the men who came to spend the night with you? Bring them out to us so we can have sex with them!"

English Standard Version
And they called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us, that we may know them.”

I've already given them this info. What's remarkable is that EVERY MAN in the city wanted to rape those angels, yet the homosexual Left insists that homosexuality was not the main issue. People who hate God and God's word will not endure the rightly divided word of truth.

Actually St.Mike - I am not a Christian or Jew - but do know my scriptures - and the story of Sodom and Gomorrah was primarily about Homosexuals - it's not even debatable.

Yet it is a topic that is regularly debated. Are you ignorant or a liar? Well clearly you are both.

There are whole books that debate the subject. Here is one discussion of the various theories:

The scholar and activist Jay Michaelson proposes a reading of the story of Sodom that emphasizes the violation of hospitality as well as the violence of the Sodomites. "Homosexual rape is the way in which they violate hospitality—not the essence of their transgression. Reading the story of Sodom as being about homosexuality is like reading the story of an ax murderer as being about an ax."[38] Michaelson places the story of Sodom in context with other Genesis stories regarding Abraham's hospitality to strangers, and argues that when other texts in the Hebrew Bible mention Sodom, they do so without commentary on homosexuality. The verses cited by Michaelson include Jeremiah 23:14,[Jeremiah 23:14] where the sins of Jerusalem are compared to Sodom and are listed as adultery, lying, and strengthening the hands of evildoers; Amos 4:1-11 (oppressing the poor and crushing the needy);[Amos 4:1-11] and Ezekiel 16:49-50,[Ezekiel 16:49-50] which defines the sins of Sodom as "pride, fullness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. And they were haughty, and did toevah before me, and I took them away as I saw fit." Michaelson uses toevah in place of abomination to emphasize the original Hebrew, which he explains as being more correctly translated as "taboo".[39]

 

[Syriusly]

Fiction. And even in the book that talks about them, the crime they were punished for was inhospitality.

Is that what you're going to do, say that every historical event that puts on stage the thunderous fall of societies that embrace homosexuality is fiction? Please let me know because I won't waste any more time on you.

The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah by god is not a historical event. We are waiting for you to provide those examples.

Yes it is. Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed because of the outcry of their neighbors. This is what was told to Lot. It became an oppressive force and one way or another it had to be stopped. It's the first recorded example of a homosexual culture destroying itself. I'm not going to even bother moving on to Greece and Rome if you're an idiot that denies history. There's no way to have a rational discussion with you.

Where are the ruins? If these were two cities....there should be ruins like there are of Jericho, of Ur, of Troy. Where are they?

And once again...if you go by the bible...those two "cities" were not destroyed because of homosexuality....they were destroyed because of their inhospitality to strangers.

The ruins of Sodom and Gomorah are in Pakistan - they are known as Mohenjo-Daro. It is actually the ruins of twin cities and modern science can not explain how it was destroyed .

"When archeologists got to the street level, people were lying dead in the street - after thousands of years." David H. Childress / Technology of the Gods: The Incredible Sciences of the Ancients

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Had a natural catastrophe, disease, or conventional war brought down Mohenjo Daro the bodies of its citizenry would have been ravaged by animals , and the city plundered by subsequent looters over the centuries. This never happened, Dozens of skeletons were found in the area of Mohenjo-Daro – their radioactivity exceeded the norm almost 50 times.


Russian researchers found a skeleton with a radioactive level 50 times greater than normal. Other cities have been found in northern India which also show evidence of intense explosions .{Riddles of Ancient History - Sputnik Magazine - Alexander Gorbovsky}

Atomic warfare in Ancient India

Atomic warfare in Ancient India? Really?

LOL.....

 

[Syriusly]

The times they are a changing.

Just as predicted by the architects of the Gay Agenda
What they didn't account for was the backlash ...s

Backlash- is that bigot talk for you getting more and more pissed off that it is no longer acceptable for you to bitch slap homosexuals?

The backlash right now is that never in American history have Americans judged a person less based upon who they love- on whether they may- or may not be gay.

And haters like you hate that.

In Colorado, a baker says he’d close his business before decorating a cake for a same-sex wedding. In Washington state, a florist is refusing to provide flowers for a longtime customer’s marriage ceremony. In Iowa, a husband and wife who host weddings in a converted church say only opposite-sex couples are welcome.

“The result of Hobby Lobby is political war,” said Marci Hamilton, a religious-freedom expert who teaches at Yeshiva University’s Benjamin N. Cardozo Law School. Evangelical groups advocating religious rights are “energized and mobilized. Their problem -- and I think they know it -- is that they have now energized and mobilized the silent majority as to both contraception and discrimination.”

At stake is how the country will reconcile deep-seated disagreements over competing rights to religious exercise, free speech and equal treatment.

On one side are people who say a refusal to do business with gay couples should be every bit as illegal as racial discrimination. On the other are those who argue that business owners shouldn’t be forced to violate their consciences as the price of pursuing their profession.

So far, religious-liberty advocates have found little success, at least when pressing their arguments before civil-rights agencies and judges. The New Mexico Human Rights Commission concluded that a wedding photographer, Elaine Huguenin, violated a state anti-discrimination law by refusing to take pictures of a same-sex couple’s commitment ceremony.

The Supreme Court in April turned away the photographer’s appeal without a hearing. Huguenin has since stopped taking wedding photographs, said Jeremy Tedesco, a lawyer with the Alliance Defending Freedom, which represented her.

“Her faith has excluded her from an entire area of business that’s actually quite important for photographers,” Tedesco said.

A growing number of states are considering legislation that would allow businesses to refuse service to LGBT people justifying it as “promoting religious freedom,”

LOL- all that any of those states need to do is change the public accommodation laws so it is legal for bigots and other business owners to discriminate against homosexuals.

States and localities pass public accommodation laws- and unless they specify homosexuals or sexual preference then homosexual are not covered.

Don't like the law- then repeal it.

Or you can do like gay couples have done, and go to court to argue that the law is unconstitutional.

 

[Syriusly]

1. Mesopotamia wasn't a society, it's an area where several societies (i.e. the Sumarians, Assyrians, the Babylonians) rose and fell. (Mesopotamia means "land between the rivers)
2. List ONE, just ONE society that was killed off by homosexuality. And, of course, you've got to show us some kind of evidence that homosexuality was the culprit.

TIA

Sodom and Gomorrah.

Fiction. And even in the book that talks about them, the crime they were punished for was inhospitality.

Is that what you're going to do, say that every historical event that puts on stage the thunderous fall of societies that embrace homosexuality is fiction? Please let me know because I won't waste any more time on you.

Soooooo, where are the ruins?

One other point....while you keep saying things like "every historical event that puts on stage the thunderous fall of societies" you can only list two cities (not societies, btw) that anyone anywhere has any archaeological evidence EVEN EXISTED. And if you go by the bible, which I assume you are, even that states they were destroyed over the inhospitality of their people....NOT homosexuality.

Incorrect. The answer to why the cities were destroyed is recorded in Genesis "because the outcry to the Lord against them has become great" (Genesis 19:13)

Let's review the evidence. When two angels came to the house of Lot, Genesis records that "all the men from every part of the city of Sodom, young and old, surrounded the house, saying to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight. Bring them out so we can have sex with them." When Lot offered his daughters, they refused, for they were attracted to the angels who were men, not to women.

So in summary, EVERY MAN in the city wanted to rape the angels who visited Lot. .

If every man in both Sodom and Gomorrah was a homosexual- how exactly was the population replenishing itself in these days before invitro?

 

[Syriusly]

1. Mesopotamia wasn't a society, it's an area where several societies (i.e. the Sumarians, Assyrians, the Babylonians) rose and fell. (Mesopotamia means "land between the rivers)
2. List ONE, just ONE society that was killed off by homosexuality. And, of course, you've got to show us some kind of evidence that homosexuality was the culprit.

TIA

Sodom and Gomorrah.

Fiction. And even in the book that talks about them, the crime they were punished for was inhospitality.

Is that what you're going to do, say that every historical event that puts on stage the thunderous fall of societies that embrace homosexuality is fiction? Please let me know because I won't waste any more time on you.

The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah by god is not a historical event. We are waiting for you to provide those examples.

Yes it is. Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed because of the outcry of their neighbors. This is what was told to Lot. It became an oppressive force and one way or another it had to be stopped. It's the first recorded example of a homosexual culture destroying itself. I'm not going to even bother moving on to Greece and Rome if you're an idiot that denies history. There's no way to have a rational discussion with you.

Except of course that:
a) Sodom and Gomorrah is not a recorded example of any culture- because we still have no evidence that Sodom and Gomorrah ever existed and
b) There is no evidence that it was a 'homosexual' culture.

The interpretation by you and some biblical scholars of what the Bible says- is not evidence.

 

[Seawytch]

Is that what you're going to do, say that every historical event that puts on stage the thunderous fall of societies that embrace homosexuality is fiction? Please let me know because I won't waste any more time on you.

Soooooo, where are the ruins?

One other point....while you keep saying things like "every historical event that puts on stage the thunderous fall of societies" you can only list two cities (not societies, btw) that anyone anywhere has any archaeological evidence EVEN EXISTED. And if you go by the bible, which I assume you are, even that states they were destroyed over the inhospitality of their people....NOT homosexuality.

Incorrect. The answer to why the cities were destroyed is recorded in Genesis "because the outcry to the Lord against them has become great" (Genesis 19:13)

Let's review the evidence. When two angels came to the house of Lot, Genesis records that "all the men from every part of the city of Sodom, young and old, surrounded the house, saying to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight. Bring them out so we can have sex with them." When Lot offered his daughters, they refused, for they were attracted to the angels who were men, not to women.

So in summary, EVERY MAN in the city wanted to rape the angels who visited Lot. No wonder the angel reported that all their neighbors decried their oppression. The city was full of roving gangs of homosexual rapists.

Now you on the Left who despise God and God's word to begin with have set up a contradiction that doesn't exist. Ezekiel 16 mentions Sodom saying "Now this was the sin of your Sister Sodom, she and her daughters were arrogant and overfed. They were not concerned for the poor and needy and did not help them." This wasn't a refutation to the main reason that the cities were destroyed, but a corollary of its initial sin. Cities who hold as it's highest value the indulgence of the flesh and the oppression of human decency are utterly bereft of charity. Selfish people don't take care of the poor and homosexuals are indeed selfish.

But the Bible is clear on why the cities were destroyed, Jude 7 confirming, "Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."

There's no doubt what the Bible says about the destruction of those cities and the reason for it. It only becomes unclear to those who hate God, despise his righteousness, and will twist his words to pervert their meaning. That's you.

This is what the bible says:

Jeremiah 23 14 And among the prophets of Jerusalem I have seen something horrible They commit adultery and live a lie. They strengthen the hands of evildoers so that not one of them turns from their wickedness. They are all like Sodom to me the people of Jerusalem are like Gomorrah.

Hmmmm...."adultery" they say? Adultery? Not homosexuality.

Hey Slimey - you know nothing of theology or etymology - The tale of Sodom and Gomorrah was about faggots and other assorted perverts - people we today call LGBT .

Lot met the angels in the city square and urged them to stay at his house. The angels agreed. The Bible then informs us, "Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom — both young and old — surrounded the house. They called to Lot, 'Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.'" The angels then proceed to blind all the men of Sodom and Gomorrah and urge Lot and his family to flee from the cities to escape the wrath that God was about to deliver.

Genesis 19:5
New International Version
They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."

New Living Translation
They shouted to Lot, "Where are the men who came to spend the night with you? Bring them out to us so we can have sex with them!"

English Standard Version
And they called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us, that we may know them.”

I've already given them this info. What's remarkable is that EVERY MAN in the city wanted to rape those angels, yet the homosexual Left insists that homosexuality was not the main issue. People who hate God and God's word will not endure the rightly divided word of truth.

Indeed remarkable...so remarkable as to be unbelievable.

Homosexuality was not the main issue. Why were the angels there in the first place? They didn't go to the city because the whole town was allegedly gay did they? No, they went there because the city did not honor god. They were gluttonous, inhospitable to strangers and performed idol worship. An angry mob shows up where they are and the guy inside the house offers up his virgin daughters to be raped by the angry mob. Still not sounding like widespread gay to me...sounds like an angry mob bent on rape...which is about power by the way.

Then the "hero", after his wife turns to salt (yeah, so believable), fucks his daughters in a cave in the mountain.

I can see why ya'll have tried to scapegoat gays with that fucking story.

 

[Seawytch]

I am sorry, I just don't see homosexuals as a discreet group that NEEDS any more protections than are already guaranteed by the constitution to all of us, anyway. And YES, given that, people should be given leeway to accept or reject people on sexual preference, because choice transcends petty sexual matters, and THAT should be the capitol issue. In my humble opinion, anyway...

And I'm not sorry that gays and lesbians fighting for and attaining rights and protections equal to heterosexuals causes consternation to bigots and homophobes.

my wife had an aunt who was a lesbian, she outgrew it. what will happen to your "marriage" when you or you partner outgrow it?

I've been a lesbian for over 40 years and with my spouse for 20. I think we'll be okay. Your concern is touching.

It's hard to believe those numbers when California voters approved of a ban on gay marriage by popular referendum. When it was struck down in court, they passed another referendum adding a ban to gay marriage to the California constitution. Yeah, Blue State California. Compare this to New York who pulled some shady tricks to pass gay marriage in the middle of the night before any opposition could be mounted to it. And that was the legislature, not a popular movement, so they can hardly be seen as representing the people in doing that. When it comes to the laws that are backed by popular support, gay marriage is trumped by those who want to preserve what real marriage is.

You're just providing an excellent example of why we don't vote on people's civil rights. Loving v Virginia was in 1967.

Calling it a "civil right" over and over again doesn't make it so...unless you're silly enough to believe that repetition has the power to turn a lie into truth.

And yet, oddly, court after court is agreeing with me and not you, aren't they?

Not all of them.

Are they?

You're right...one agreed with you. One out of dozens. That must really give you hope.

 

[bodecea]

The times they are a changing.

Just as predicted by the architects of the Gay Agenda
What they didn't account for was the backlash ...s

Backlash- is that bigot talk for you getting more and more pissed off that it is no longer acceptable for you to bitch slap homosexuals?

The backlash right now is that never in American history have Americans judged a person less based upon who they love- on whether they may- or may not be gay.

And haters like you hate that.

In Colorado, a baker says he’d close his business before decorating a cake for a same-sex wedding. In Washington state, a florist is refusing to provide flowers for a longtime customer’s marriage ceremony. In Iowa, a husband and wife who host weddings in a converted church say only opposite-sex couples are welcome.

“The result of Hobby Lobby is political war,” said Marci Hamilton, a religious-freedom expert who teaches at Yeshiva University’s Benjamin N. Cardozo Law School. Evangelical groups advocating religious rights are “energized and mobilized. Their problem -- and I think they know it -- is that they have now energized and mobilized the silent majority as to both contraception and discrimination.”

At stake is how the country will reconcile deep-seated disagreements over competing rights to religious exercise, free speech and equal treatment.

On one side are people who say a refusal to do business with gay couples should be every bit as illegal as racial discrimination. On the other are those who argue that business owners shouldn’t be forced to violate their consciences as the price of pursuing their profession.

So far, religious-liberty advocates have found little success, at least when pressing their arguments before civil-rights agencies and judges. The New Mexico Human Rights Commission concluded that a wedding photographer, Elaine Huguenin, violated a state anti-discrimination law by refusing to take pictures of a same-sex couple’s commitment ceremony.

The Supreme Court in April turned away the photographer’s appeal without a hearing. Huguenin has since stopped taking wedding photographs, said Jeremy Tedesco, a lawyer with the Alliance Defending Freedom, which represented her.

“Her faith has excluded her from an entire area of business that’s actually quite important for photographers,” Tedesco said.

A growing number of states are considering legislation that would allow businesses to refuse service to LGBT people justifying it as “promoting religious freedom,”

Their choices...just like those muslim taxi drivers who refuse to carry customers with dogs or alcohol. Their choice.

 

[bodecea]

Fiction. And even in the book that talks about them, the crime they were punished for was inhospitality.

Is that what you're going to do, say that every historical event that puts on stage the thunderous fall of societies that embrace homosexuality is fiction? Please let me know because I won't waste any more time on you.

Soooooo, where are the ruins?

One other point....while you keep saying things like "every historical event that puts on stage the thunderous fall of societies" you can only list two cities (not societies, btw) that anyone anywhere has any archaeological evidence EVEN EXISTED. And if you go by the bible, which I assume you are, even that states they were destroyed over the inhospitality of their people....NOT homosexuality.

Incorrect. The answer to why the cities were destroyed is recorded in Genesis "because the outcry to the Lord against them has become great" (Genesis 19:13)

Let's review the evidence. When two angels came to the house of Lot, Genesis records that "all the men from every part of the city of Sodom, young and old, surrounded the house, saying to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight. Bring them out so we can have sex with them." When Lot offered his daughters, they refused, for they were attracted to the angels who were men, not to women.

So in summary, EVERY MAN in the city wanted to rape the angels who visited Lot. No wonder the angel reported that all their neighbors decried their oppression. The city was full of roving gangs of homosexual rapists.

Now you on the Left who despise God and God's word to begin with have set up a contradiction that doesn't exist. Ezekiel 16 mentions Sodom saying "Now this was the sin of your Sister Sodom, she and her daughters were arrogant and overfed. They were not concerned for the poor and needy and did not help them." This wasn't a refutation to the main reason that the cities were destroyed, but a corollary of its initial sin. Cities who hold as it's highest value the indulgence of the flesh and the oppression of human decency are utterly bereft of charity. Selfish people don't take care of the poor and homosexuals are indeed selfish.

But the Bible is clear on why the cities were destroyed, Jude 7 confirming, "Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."

There's no doubt what the Bible says about the destruction of those cities and the reason for it. It only becomes unclear to those who hate God, despise his righteousness, and will twist his words to pervert their meaning. That's you.

This is what the bible says:

Jeremiah 23 14 And among the prophets of Jerusalem I have seen something horrible They commit adultery and live a lie. They strengthen the hands of evildoers so that not one of them turns from their wickedness. They are all like Sodom to me the people of Jerusalem are like Gomorrah.

Hmmmm...."adultery" they say? Adultery? Not homosexuality.

Hey Slimey - you know nothing of theology or etymology - The tale of Sodom and Gomorrah was about faggots and other assorted perverts - people we today call LGBT .

Lot met the angels in the city square and urged them to stay at his house. The angels agreed. The Bible then informs us, "Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom — both young and old — surrounded the house. They called to Lot, 'Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.'" The angels then proceed to blind all the men of Sodom and Gomorrah and urge Lot and his family to flee from the cities to escape the wrath that God was about to deliver.

Genesis 19:5
New International Version
They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."

New Living Translation
They shouted to Lot, "Where are the men who came to spend the night with you? Bring them out to us so we can have sex with them!"

English Standard Version
And they called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us, that we may know them.”

The "tale of Sodom and Gomorrah" indeed. A tale.

 

[bodecea]

Is that what you're going to do, say that every historical event that puts on stage the thunderous fall of societies that embrace homosexuality is fiction? Please let me know because I won't waste any more time on you.

Soooooo, where are the ruins?

One other point....while you keep saying things like "every historical event that puts on stage the thunderous fall of societies" you can only list two cities (not societies, btw) that anyone anywhere has any archaeological evidence EVEN EXISTED. And if you go by the bible, which I assume you are, even that states they were destroyed over the inhospitality of their people....NOT homosexuality.

Incorrect. The answer to why the cities were destroyed is recorded in Genesis "because the outcry to the Lord against them has become great" (Genesis 19:13)

Let's review the evidence. When two angels came to the house of Lot, Genesis records that "all the men from every part of the city of Sodom, young and old, surrounded the house, saying to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight. Bring them out so we can have sex with them." When Lot offered his daughters, they refused, for they were attracted to the angels who were men, not to women.

So in summary, EVERY MAN in the city wanted to rape the angels who visited Lot. No wonder the angel reported that all their neighbors decried their oppression. The city was full of roving gangs of homosexual rapists.

Now you on the Left who despise God and God's word to begin with have set up a contradiction that doesn't exist. Ezekiel 16 mentions Sodom saying "Now this was the sin of your Sister Sodom, she and her daughters were arrogant and overfed. They were not concerned for the poor and needy and did not help them." This wasn't a refutation to the main reason that the cities were destroyed, but a corollary of its initial sin. Cities who hold as it's highest value the indulgence of the flesh and the oppression of human decency are utterly bereft of charity. Selfish people don't take care of the poor and homosexuals are indeed selfish.

But the Bible is clear on why the cities were destroyed, Jude 7 confirming, "Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."

There's no doubt what the Bible says about the destruction of those cities and the reason for it. It only becomes unclear to those who hate God, despise his righteousness, and will twist his words to pervert their meaning. That's you.

This is what the bible says:

Jeremiah 23 14 And among the prophets of Jerusalem I have seen something horrible They commit adultery and live a lie. They strengthen the hands of evildoers so that not one of them turns from their wickedness. They are all like Sodom to me the people of Jerusalem are like Gomorrah.

Hmmmm...."adultery" they say? Adultery? Not homosexuality.

Hey Slimey - you know nothing of theology or etymology - The tale of Sodom and Gomorrah was about faggots and other assorted perverts - people we today call LGBT .

Lot met the angels in the city square and urged them to stay at his house. The angels agreed. The Bible then informs us, "Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom — both young and old — surrounded the house. They called to Lot, 'Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.'" The angels then proceed to blind all the men of Sodom and Gomorrah and urge Lot and his family to flee from the cities to escape the wrath that God was about to deliver.

Genesis 19:5
New International Version
They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."

New Living Translation
They shouted to Lot, "Where are the men who came to spend the night with you? Bring them out to us so we can have sex with them!"

English Standard Version
And they called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us, that we may know them.”

I've already given them this info. What's remarkable is that EVERY MAN in the city wanted to rape those angels, yet the homosexual Left insists that homosexuality was not the main issue. People who hate God and God's word will not endure the rightly divided word of truth.

Where does it say that?

 

[bodecea]

Fiction. And even in the book that talks about them, the crime they were punished for was inhospitality.

Is that what you're going to do, say that every historical event that puts on stage the thunderous fall of societies that embrace homosexuality is fiction? Please let me know because I won't waste any more time on you.

The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah by god is not a historical event. We are waiting for you to provide those examples.

Yes it is. Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed because of the outcry of their neighbors. This is what was told to Lot. It became an oppressive force and one way or another it had to be stopped. It's the first recorded example of a homosexual culture destroying itself. I'm not going to even bother moving on to Greece and Rome if you're an idiot that denies history. There's no way to have a rational discussion with you.

Where are the ruins? If these were two cities....there should be ruins like there are of Jericho, of Ur, of Troy. Where are they?

And once again...if you go by the bible...those two "cities" were not destroyed because of homosexuality....they were destroyed because of their inhospitality to strangers.

The ruins of Sodom and Gomorah are in Pakistan - they are known as Mohenjo-Daro. It is actually the ruins of twin cities and modern science can not explain how it was destroyed .

"When archeologists got to the street level, people were lying dead in the street - after thousands of years." David H. Childress / Technology of the Gods: The Incredible Sciences of the Ancients.

Had a natural catastrophe, disease, or conventional war brought down Mohenjo Daro the bodies of its citizenry would have been ravaged by animals , and the city plundered by subsequent looters over the centuries. This never happened, Dozens of skeletons were found in the area of Mohenjo-Daro – their radioactivity exceeded the norm almost 50 times.


Russian researchers found a skeleton with a radioactive level 50 times greater than normal. Other cities have been found in northern India which also show evidence of intense explosions .{Riddles of Ancient History - Sputnik Magazine - Alexander Gorbovsky}

Atomic warfare in Ancient India

 

[bodecea]

Is that what you're going to do, say that every historical event that puts on stage the thunderous fall of societies that embrace homosexuality is fiction? Please let me know because I won't waste any more time on you.

The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah by god is not a historical event. We are waiting for you to provide those examples.

Yes it is. Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed because of the outcry of their neighbors. This is what was told to Lot. It became an oppressive force and one way or another it had to be stopped. It's the first recorded example of a homosexual culture destroying itself. I'm not going to even bother moving on to Greece and Rome if you're an idiot that denies history. There's no way to have a rational discussion with you.

Where are the ruins? If these were two cities....there should be ruins like there are of Jericho, of Ur, of Troy. Where are they?

And once again...if you go by the bible...those two "cities" were not destroyed because of homosexuality....they were destroyed because of their inhospitality to strangers.

The ruins of Sodom and Gomorah are in Pakistan - they are known as Mohenjo-Daro. It is actually the ruins of twin cities and modern science can not explain how it was destroyed .

"When archeologists got to the street level, people were lying dead in the street - after thousands of years." David H. Childress / Technology of the Gods: The Incredible Sciences of the Ancients.

Had a natural catastrophe, disease, or conventional war brought down Mohenjo Daro the bodies of its citizenry would have been ravaged by animals , and the city plundered by subsequent looters over the centuries. This never happened, Dozens of skeletons were found in the area of Mohenjo-Daro – their radioactivity exceeded the norm almost 50 times.


Russian researchers found a skeleton with a radioactive level 50 times greater than normal. Other cities have been found in northern India which also show evidence of intense explosions .{Riddles of Ancient History - Sputnik Magazine - Alexander Gorbovsky}

Atomic warfare in Ancient India

Atomic warfare in Ancient India? Really?

LOL.....

It's particularly amusing considering that the biblical story of Sodom etc places them in Canaan...and it was actually 5 cities with 4 of them being destroyed...even tho it's only the first 2 that seem to be remembered. But it's only a tale.

 

[GreenBean]

The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah by god is not a historical event. We are waiting for you to provide those examples.

Yes it is. Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed because of the outcry of their neighbors. This is what was told to Lot. It became an oppressive force and one way or another it had to be stopped. It's the first recorded example of a homosexual culture destroying itself. I'm not going to even bother moving on to Greece and Rome if you're an idiot that denies history. There's no way to have a rational discussion with you.

Where are the ruins? If these were two cities....there should be ruins like there are of Jericho, of Ur, of Troy. Where are they?

And once again...if you go by the bible...those two "cities" were not destroyed because of homosexuality....they were destroyed because of their inhospitality to strangers.

The ruins of Sodom and Gomorah are in Pakistan - they are known as Mohenjo-Daro. It is actually the ruins of twin cities and modern science can not explain how it was destroyed .

"When archeologists got to the street level, people were lying dead in the street - after thousands of years." David H. Childress / Technology of the Gods: The Incredible Sciences of the Ancients.

Had a natural catastrophe, disease, or conventional war brought down Mohenjo Daro the bodies of its citizenry would have been ravaged by animals , and the city plundered by subsequent looters over the centuries. This never happened, Dozens of skeletons were found in the area of Mohenjo-Daro – their radioactivity exceeded the norm almost 50 times.


Russian researchers found a skeleton with a radioactive level 50 times greater than normal. Other cities have been found in northern India which also show evidence of intense explosions .{Riddles of Ancient History - Sputnik Magazine - Alexander Gorbovsky}

Atomic warfare in Ancient India

Atomic warfare in Ancient India? Really?

LOL.....

It's particularly amusing considering that the biblical story of Sodom etc places them in Canaan...and it was actually 5 cities with 4 of them being destroyed...even tho it's only the first 2 that seem to be remembered. But it's only a tale.

Scholars believe that most Biblical "tales" have their roots in actual Historical events. The written version is frequently aggrandized and exaggerated, but no serious scholar takes them as 100% literal, only religious zealots.

Abraham, forebear of the Hebrews, is believed to have come from a region of modern day Iraq known as "Ur" not far from the region of Mohenjo Daro - some of the Old Test.Biblical tales - such as Sodom & Gomorrah are theorized to have derived from there. In fact there is even a theory that Brahma and ABraham are one and the same Historical character.

I do realize that most of this is beyond your ability to grasp given the minuscule intellectual capacity you have to work with - but you do realize that it is only a theory - there are some alternative claimants to being Sodom & Gomorrah - such as that it was on a plain south of the Dead Sea and later covered by the waters as the Dead sea water levels changed.

 

[bodecea]

Yes it is. Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed because of the outcry of their neighbors. This is what was told to Lot. It became an oppressive force and one way or another it had to be stopped. It's the first recorded example of a homosexual culture destroying itself. I'm not going to even bother moving on to Greece and Rome if you're an idiot that denies history. There's no way to have a rational discussion with you.

Where are the ruins? If these were two cities....there should be ruins like there are of Jericho, of Ur, of Troy. Where are they?

And once again...if you go by the bible...those two "cities" were not destroyed because of homosexuality....they were destroyed because of their inhospitality to strangers.

The ruins of Sodom and Gomorah are in Pakistan - they are known as Mohenjo-Daro. It is actually the ruins of twin cities and modern science can not explain how it was destroyed .

"When archeologists got to the street level, people were lying dead in the street - after thousands of years." David H. Childress / Technology of the Gods: The Incredible Sciences of the Ancients.

Had a natural catastrophe, disease, or conventional war brought down Mohenjo Daro the bodies of its citizenry would have been ravaged by animals , and the city plundered by subsequent looters over the centuries. This never happened, Dozens of skeletons were found in the area of Mohenjo-Daro – their radioactivity exceeded the norm almost 50 times.


Russian researchers found a skeleton with a radioactive level 50 times greater than normal. Other cities have been found in northern India which also show evidence of intense explosions .{Riddles of Ancient History - Sputnik Magazine - Alexander Gorbovsky}

Atomic warfare in Ancient India

Atomic warfare in Ancient India? Really?

LOL.....

It's particularly amusing considering that the biblical story of Sodom etc places them in Canaan...and it was actually 5 cities with 4 of them being destroyed...even tho it's only the first 2 that seem to be remembered. But it's only a tale.

Scholars believe that most Biblical "tales" have their roots in actual Historical events. The written version is frequently aggrandized and exaggerated, but no serious scholar takes them as 100% literal, only religious zealots.

Abraham, forebear of the Hebrews, is believed to have come from a region of modern day Iraq known as "Ur" not far from the region of Mohenjo Daro - some of the Old Test.Biblical tales - such as Sodom & Gomorrah are theorized to have derived from there. In fact there is even a theory that Brahma and ABraham are one and the same Historical character.

Ur is in Mesopotamian...near where the Tigris and Euphrates come together....not anywhere near the Indus river valley.

 

[GreenBean]

Where are the ruins? If these were two cities....there should be ruins like there are of Jericho, of Ur, of Troy. Where are they?

And once again...if you go by the bible...those two "cities" were not destroyed because of homosexuality....they were destroyed because of their inhospitality to strangers.

The ruins of Sodom and Gomorah are in Pakistan - they are known as Mohenjo-Daro. It is actually the ruins of twin cities and modern science can not explain how it was destroyed .

"When archeologists got to the street level, people were lying dead in the street - after thousands of years." David H. Childress / Technology of the Gods: The Incredible Sciences of the Ancients.

Had a natural catastrophe, disease, or conventional war brought down Mohenjo Daro the bodies of its citizenry would have been ravaged by animals , and the city plundered by subsequent looters over the centuries. This never happened, Dozens of skeletons were found in the area of Mohenjo-Daro – their radioactivity exceeded the norm almost 50 times.


Russian researchers found a skeleton with a radioactive level 50 times greater than normal. Other cities have been found in northern India which also show evidence of intense explosions .{Riddles of Ancient History - Sputnik Magazine - Alexander Gorbovsky}

Atomic warfare in Ancient India

Atomic warfare in Ancient India? Really?

LOL.....

It's particularly amusing considering that the biblical story of Sodom etc places them in Canaan...and it was actually 5 cities with 4 of them being destroyed...even tho it's only the first 2 that seem to be remembered. But it's only a tale.

Scholars believe that most Biblical "tales" have their roots in actual Historical events. The written version is frequently aggrandized and exaggerated, but no serious scholar takes them as 100% literal, only religious zealots.

Abraham, forebear of the Hebrews, is believed to have come from a region of modern day Iraq known as "Ur" not far from the region of Mohenjo Daro - some of the Old Test.Biblical tales - such as Sodom & Gomorrah are theorized to have derived from there. In fact there is even a theory that Brahma and ABraham are one and the same Historical character.

Ur is in Mesopotamian...near where the Tigris and Euphrates come together....not anywhere near the Indus river valley.

Right ... and the Statue of Liberty is in New Jersey ...not New York

.

 

[bodecea]

The ruins of Sodom and Gomorah are in Pakistan - they are known as Mohenjo-Daro. It is actually the ruins of twin cities and modern science can not explain how it was destroyed .

"When archeologists got to the street level, people were lying dead in the street - after thousands of years." David H. Childress / Technology of the Gods: The Incredible Sciences of the Ancients.

Had a natural catastrophe, disease, or conventional war brought down Mohenjo Daro the bodies of its citizenry would have been ravaged by animals , and the city plundered by subsequent looters over the centuries. This never happened, Dozens of skeletons were found in the area of Mohenjo-Daro – their radioactivity exceeded the norm almost 50 times.


Russian researchers found a skeleton with a radioactive level 50 times greater than normal. Other cities have been found in northern India which also show evidence of intense explosions .{Riddles of Ancient History - Sputnik Magazine - Alexander Gorbovsky}

Atomic warfare in Ancient India

Atomic warfare in Ancient India? Really?

LOL.....

It's particularly amusing considering that the biblical story of Sodom etc places them in Canaan...and it was actually 5 cities with 4 of them being destroyed...even tho it's only the first 2 that seem to be remembered. But it's only a tale.

Scholars believe that most Biblical "tales" have their roots in actual Historical events. The written version is frequently aggrandized and exaggerated, but no serious scholar takes them as 100% literal, only religious zealots.

Abraham, forebear of the Hebrews, is believed to have come from a region of modern day Iraq known as "Ur" not far from the region of Mohenjo Daro - some of the Old Test.Biblical tales - such as Sodom & Gomorrah are theorized to have derived from there. In fact there is even a theory that Brahma and ABraham are one and the same Historical character.

Ur is in Mesopotamian...near where the Tigris and Euphrates come together....not anywhere near the Indus river valley.

Right ... and the Statue of Liberty is in New Jersey ...not New York

.

Thanks for proving my point. According to your own map and it's scale, where Ur has been discovered and where the Indus Valley is are about 1000 miles apart. Thanks.

 

[GreenBean]

Incorrect. The answer to why the cities were destroyed is recorded in Genesis "because the outcry to the Lord against them has become great" (Genesis 19:13)

Let's review the evidence. When two angels came to the house of Lot, Genesis records that "all the men from every part of the city of Sodom, young and old, surrounded the house, saying to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight. Bring them out so we can have sex with them." When Lot offered his daughters, they refused, for they were attracted to the angels who were men, not to women.

So in summary, EVERY MAN in the city wanted to rape the angels who visited Lot. No wonder the angel reported that all their neighbors decried their oppression. The city was full of roving gangs of homosexual rapists.

Now you on the Left who despise God and God's word to begin with have set up a contradiction that doesn't exist. Ezekiel 16 mentions Sodom saying "Now this was the sin of your Sister Sodom, she and her daughters were arrogant and overfed. They were not concerned for the poor and needy and did not help them." This wasn't a refutation to the main reason that the cities were destroyed, but a corollary of its initial sin. Cities who hold as it's highest value the indulgence of the flesh and the oppression of human decency are utterly bereft of charity. Selfish people don't take care of the poor and homosexuals are indeed selfish.

But the Bible is clear on why the cities were destroyed, Jude 7 confirming, "Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."

There's no doubt what the Bible says about the destruction of those cities and the reason for it. It only becomes unclear to those who hate God, despise his righteousness, and will twist his words to pervert their meaning. That's you.

This is what the bible says:

Jeremiah 23 14 And among the prophets of Jerusalem I have seen something horrible They commit adultery and live a lie. They strengthen the hands of evildoers so that not one of them turns from their wickedness. They are all like Sodom to me the people of Jerusalem are like Gomorrah.

Hmmmm...."adultery" they say? Adultery? Not homosexuality.

Hey Slimey - you know nothing of theology or etymology - The tale of Sodom and Gomorrah was about faggots and other assorted perverts - people we today call LGBT .

Lot met the angels in the city square and urged them to stay at his house. The angels agreed. The Bible then informs us, "Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom — both young and old — surrounded the house. They called to Lot, 'Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.'" The angels then proceed to blind all the men of Sodom and Gomorrah and urge Lot and his family to flee from the cities to escape the wrath that God was about to deliver.

Genesis 19:5
New International Version
They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."

New Living Translation
They shouted to Lot, "Where are the men who came to spend the night with you? Bring them out to us so we can have sex with them!"

English Standard Version
And they called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us, that we may know them.”

I've already given them this info. What's remarkable is that EVERY MAN in the city wanted to rape those angels, yet the homosexual Left insists that homosexuality was not the main issue. People who hate God and God's word will not endure the rightly divided word of truth.

Actually St.Mike - I am not a Christian or Jew - but do know my scriptures - and the story of Sodom and Gomorrah was primarily about Homosexuals - it's not even debatable.

Yet it is a topic that is regularly debated. Are you ignorant or a liar? Well clearly you are both.

There are whole books that debate the subject. Here is one discussion of the various theories:

The scholar and activist Jay Michaelson proposes a reading of the story of Sodom that emphasizes the violation of hospitality as well as the violence of the Sodomites. "Homosexual rape is the way in which they violate hospitality—not the essence of their transgression. Reading the story of Sodom as being about homosexuality is like reading the story of an ax murderer as being about an ax."[38] Michaelson places the story of Sodom in context with other Genesis stories regarding Abraham's hospitality to strangers, and argues that when other texts in the Hebrew Bible mention Sodom, they do so without commentary on homosexuality. The verses cited by Michaelson include Jeremiah 23:14,[Jeremiah 23:14] where the sins of Jerusalem are compared to Sodom and are listed as adultery, lying, and strengthening the hands of evildoers; Amos 4:1-11 (oppressing the poor and crushing the needy);[Amos 4:1-11] and Ezekiel 16:49-50,[Ezekiel 16:49-50] which defines the sins of Sodom as "pride, fullness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. And they were haughty, and did toevah before me, and I took them away as I saw fit." Michaelson uses toevah in place of abomination to emphasize the original Hebrew, which he explains as being more correctly translated as "taboo".[39]

So those were some of the OTHER perceived sins of the Sin Cities ... uh huh ..

while homosexuality was not the only sin in which the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah indulged, it does appear to be the primary reason for the destruction of the cities.


Genesis 19:5

They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."

 

[PaintMyHouse]

This is what the bible says:

Jeremiah 23 14 And among the prophets of Jerusalem I have seen something horrible They commit adultery and live a lie. They strengthen the hands of evildoers so that not one of them turns from their wickedness. They are all like Sodom to me the people of Jerusalem are like Gomorrah.

Hmmmm...."adultery" they say? Adultery? Not homosexuality.

Hey Slimey - you know nothing of theology or etymology - The tale of Sodom and Gomorrah was about faggots and other assorted perverts - people we today call LGBT .

Lot met the angels in the city square and urged them to stay at his house. The angels agreed. The Bible then informs us, "Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom — both young and old — surrounded the house. They called to Lot, 'Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.'" The angels then proceed to blind all the men of Sodom and Gomorrah and urge Lot and his family to flee from the cities to escape the wrath that God was about to deliver.

Genesis 19:5
New International Version
They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."

New Living Translation
They shouted to Lot, "Where are the men who came to spend the night with you? Bring them out to us so we can have sex with them!"

English Standard Version
And they called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us, that we may know them.”

I've already given them this info. What's remarkable is that EVERY MAN in the city wanted to rape those angels, yet the homosexual Left insists that homosexuality was not the main issue. People who hate God and God's word will not endure the rightly divided word of truth.

Actually St.Mike - I am not a Christian or Jew - but do know my scriptures - and the story of Sodom and Gomorrah was primarily about Homosexuals - it's not even debatable.

Yet it is a topic that is regularly debated. Are you ignorant or a liar? Well clearly you are both.

There are whole books that debate the subject. Here is one discussion of the various theories:

The scholar and activist Jay Michaelson proposes a reading of the story of Sodom that emphasizes the violation of hospitality as well as the violence of the Sodomites. "Homosexual rape is the way in which they violate hospitality—not the essence of their transgression. Reading the story of Sodom as being about homosexuality is like reading the story of an ax murderer as being about an ax."[38] Michaelson places the story of Sodom in context with other Genesis stories regarding Abraham's hospitality to strangers, and argues that when other texts in the Hebrew Bible mention Sodom, they do so without commentary on homosexuality. The verses cited by Michaelson include Jeremiah 23:14,[Jeremiah 23:14] where the sins of Jerusalem are compared to Sodom and are listed as adultery, lying, and strengthening the hands of evildoers; Amos 4:1-11 (oppressing the poor and crushing the needy);[Amos 4:1-11] and Ezekiel 16:49-50,[Ezekiel 16:49-50] which defines the sins of Sodom as "pride, fullness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. And they were haughty, and did toevah before me, and I took them away as I saw fit." Michaelson uses toevah in place of abomination to emphasize the original Hebrew, which he explains as being more correctly translated as "taboo".[39]

So those were some of the OTHER perceived sins of the Sin Cities ... uh huh ..

while homosexuality was not the only sin in which the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah indulged, it does appear to be the primary reason for the destruction of the cities.


Genesis 19:5

They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."

Fags bad, incest good eh?

34 The next day the older daughter said to the younger, “Last night I slept with my father. Let’s get him to drink wine again tonight, and you go in and sleep with him so we can preserve our family line through our father.” 35 So they got their father to drink wine that night also, and the younger daughter went in and slept with him. Again he was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.

36 So both of Lot’s daughters became pregnant by their father. 37 The older daughter had a son, and she named him Moab; he is the father of the Moabites of today. 38 The younger daughter also had a son, and she named him Ben-Ammi; he is the father of the Ammonites of today.

 

[GreenBean]

Atomic warfare in Ancient India? Really?

LOL.....

It's particularly amusing considering that the biblical story of Sodom etc places them in Canaan...and it was actually 5 cities with 4 of them being destroyed...even tho it's only the first 2 that seem to be remembered. But it's only a tale.

Scholars believe that most Biblical "tales" have their roots in actual Historical events. The written version is frequently aggrandized and exaggerated, but no serious scholar takes them as 100% literal, only religious zealots.

Abraham, forebear of the Hebrews, is believed to have come from a region of modern day Iraq known as "Ur" not far from the region of Mohenjo Daro - some of the Old Test.Biblical tales - such as Sodom & Gomorrah are theorized to have derived from there. In fact there is even a theory that Brahma and ABraham are one and the same Historical character.

Ur is in Mesopotamian...near where the Tigris and Euphrates come together....not anywhere near the Indus river valley.

Right ... and the Statue of Liberty is in New Jersey ...not New York

.

Thanks for proving my point. According to your own map and it's scale, where Ur has been discovered and where the Indus Valley is are about 1000 miles apart. Thanks.

And UR and Canaan are even further than that - If you are attempting to demonstrate how hopelessly infantile, ignorant and intellectually slovenly you truly are ..... you're doing a wonderful Job !

 

[GreenBean]

Soooooo, where are the ruins?

One other point....while you keep saying things like "every historical event that puts on stage the thunderous fall of societies" you can only list two cities (not societies, btw) that anyone anywhere has any archaeological evidence EVEN EXISTED. And if you go by the bible, which I assume you are, even that states they were destroyed over the inhospitality of their people....NOT homosexuality.

Incorrect. The answer to why the cities were destroyed is recorded in Genesis "because the outcry to the Lord against them has become great" (Genesis 19:13)

Let's review the evidence. When two angels came to the house of Lot, Genesis records that "all the men from every part of the city of Sodom, young and old, surrounded the house, saying to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight. Bring them out so we can have sex with them." When Lot offered his daughters, they refused, for they were attracted to the angels who were men, not to women.

So in summary, EVERY MAN in the city wanted to rape the angels who visited Lot. No wonder the angel reported that all their neighbors decried their oppression. The city was full of roving gangs of homosexual rapists.

Now you on the Left who despise God and God's word to begin with have set up a contradiction that doesn't exist. Ezekiel 16 mentions Sodom saying "Now this was the sin of your Sister Sodom, she and her daughters were arrogant and overfed. They were not concerned for the poor and needy and did not help them." This wasn't a refutation to the main reason that the cities were destroyed, but a corollary of its initial sin. Cities who hold as it's highest value the indulgence of the flesh and the oppression of human decency are utterly bereft of charity. Selfish people don't take care of the poor and homosexuals are indeed selfish.

But the Bible is clear on why the cities were destroyed, Jude 7 confirming, "Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."

There's no doubt what the Bible says about the destruction of those cities and the reason for it. It only becomes unclear to those who hate God, despise his righteousness, and will twist his words to pervert their meaning. That's you.

This is what the bible says:

Jeremiah 23 14 And among the prophets of Jerusalem I have seen something horrible They commit adultery and live a lie. They strengthen the hands of evildoers so that not one of them turns from their wickedness. They are all like Sodom to me the people of Jerusalem are like Gomorrah.

Hmmmm...."adultery" they say? Adultery? Not homosexuality.

Hey Slimey - you know nothing of theology or etymology - The tale of Sodom and Gomorrah was about faggots and other assorted perverts - people we today call LGBT .

Lot met the angels in the city square and urged them to stay at his house. The angels agreed. The Bible then informs us, "Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom — both young and old — surrounded the house. They called to Lot, 'Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.'" The angels then proceed to blind all the men of Sodom and Gomorrah and urge Lot and his family to flee from the cities to escape the wrath that God was about to deliver.

Genesis 19:5
New International Version
They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."

New Living Translation
They shouted to Lot, "Where are the men who came to spend the night with you? Bring them out to us so we can have sex with them!"

English Standard Version
And they called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us, that we may know them.”

I've already given them this info. What's remarkable is that EVERY MAN in the city wanted to rape those angels, yet the homosexual Left insists that homosexuality was not the main issue. People who hate God and God's word will not endure the rightly divided word of truth.

Indeed remarkable...so remarkable as to be unbelievable.

Homosexuality was not the main issue. Why were the angels there in the first place? They didn't go to the city because the whole town was allegedly gay did they? No, they went there because the city did not honor god. They were gluttonous, inhospitable to strangers and performed idol worship. An angry mob shows up where they are and the guy inside the house offers up his virgin daughters to be raped by the angry mob. Still not sounding like widespread gay to me...sounds like an angry mob bent on rape...which is about power by the way.

Then the "hero", after his wife turns to salt (yeah, so believable), fucks his daughters in a cave in the mountain.

I can see why ya'll have tried to scapegoat gays with that fucking story.

They were gluttonous, inhospitable to strangers and performed idol worship.

Sounds a lot like Modern Day Queers to me. Childish, ignorant ...... they worship idols - like Harvey the pedophile Milk and Ellen Degenerate yup..... nothing has changed.

An angry mob shows up where they are and the guy inside the house offers up his virgin daughters to be raped by the angry mob.

The females were an offering to save his own ass from Gay gang rape

Still not sounding like widespread gay to me...sounds like an angry mob bent on rape

Yup - Homosexual Rape
Genesis 19-5
"Where are the men who came to spend the night with you? Bring them out to us so we can have sex with them!"

...which is about power by the way.

The rape/power hypothesis only holds in scenarios where one individual seeks sexual domination and gratification through forceful domination- generally by a male over a female or a faggot over another man. When you delve into the gang rape scenario a whole new set of dynamics comes into play.

I think perhaps you should think before you vomit your canned rhetoric onto people as it doesn't apply to all situations , and its propaganda value is watered down