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We were discussing your idiot God, idiot.Yeah there's an option. You could stop believing in worn out Fairy Tales ...How can you people escape eternal judgment by a just God?
How can you live with a vengeful Deity constantly looking over your shoulder with threats of eternal judgement?
Is there an option?
ROFLMNAO!
Anyone need anything else?
We have YET ANOTHER obama constituent declaring that THE LAWS OF NATURE are "Fairy Tales".
See how that works? Ya can't see it, taste it or touch it, so it doesn't exist.
Well the courts disagree. You've lost, so now what?Our kids are fine and we're having them whether we're married or not. We're also marrying whether we have kids are not...just like straight folks.
Some of us DO have children. Gays are having children exactly like straights do....adoption, artificial insemination, IVF, divorce.
Someone explain why our families, whether with or without children, are less deserving of the rights, benefits and privileges associated with civil marriage than straight families (with or without children)? What is your reasonable person standard you use to justify discriminating against our loving partnerships?
Personally, I believe that kids should be brought up with a man and a woman as the parents. I think that nature devised a plan that has worked since the dawn of humankind, and I believe that kids bought up in a one gender household miss out on the guidance of the other gender.
Mark
Personally I'm glad you don't get to make the rules about who gets to be parents or not. I don't think fundamentalist Christians should get to be parents...I've seen more than my share of kids fucked up by having Fundie Parents.
I'm glad I don't get to make the rules about who can be parents either.
That doesn't answer the question though...try again. What reasonable person standard to you use to deny our family the rights, benefits and privileges of civil marriage?
I just answered it. The state shouldn't be condoning gay marriage.
Mark
Marriage is the joining of one man and one woman.
The Jewish God made the rules.We were discussing your idiot God, idiot.Yeah there's an option. You could stop believing in worn out Fairy Tales ...How can you people escape eternal judgment by a just God?
How can you live with a vengeful Deity constantly looking over your shoulder with threats of eternal judgement?
Is there an option?
ROFLMNAO!
Anyone need anything else?
We have YET ANOTHER obama constituent declaring that THE LAWS OF NATURE are "Fairy Tales".
See how that works? Ya can't see it, taste it or touch it, so it doesn't exist.
When we have legal marriage for any two adults, we'll look into it. It is Traditional BTW, so you'll approve right?If marriage can be defined by a minority, why can't it be defined by ANY minority? Why can't a man marry any number of women who are willing to marry him? Why can't a woman marry any number of men or women she wants?
Adam and Eve weren't married, and Cain and Abel fucked their sisters. Now what?The Jewish God made the rules.We were discussing your idiot God, idiot.Yeah there's an option. You could stop believing in worn out Fairy Tales ...How can you live with a vengeful Deity constantly looking over your shoulder with threats of eternal judgement?
Is there an option?
ROFLMNAO!
Anyone need anything else?
We have YET ANOTHER obama constituent declaring that THE LAWS OF NATURE are "Fairy Tales".
See how that works? Ya can't see it, taste it or touch it, so it doesn't exist.
"Therefore a man leaves his father and his mother and cleaves to his wife, and they become one flesh."
It's in Genesis.
Well, the states disagree. ...
Why wait? Why stick with tradition?When we have legal marriage for any two adults, we'll look into it. It is Traditional BTW, so you'll approve right?If marriage can be defined by a minority, why can't it be defined by ANY minority? Why can't a man marry any number of women who are willing to marry him? Why can't a woman marry any number of men or women she wants?
So...you think equal civil rights under our laws should apply only in the case of race?No. What you said there is your opinion. Same as me.
Welcome to America, Bub.
That's where you are wrong. In realistic terms, there can not be discrimination when all people are treated the same.
If marriage is allowed only between one man and one woman, then EVERYONE lives under the same law. That is not an opinion. It is logic.
And you can disagree if you want, but logic says you are wrong.
Mark
Are you aware that your argument was used before?
As Reconstruction collapsed in the late 1870s, legislators, policymakers, and, above all, judges began to marshal the arguments they needed to justify the reinstatement--and subsequent expansion--of miscegenation law.
Here are four of the arguments they used:
1) First, judges claimed that marriage belonged under the control of the states rather than the federal government.
2) Second, they began to define and label all interracial relationships (even longstanding, deeply committed ones) as illicit sex rather than marriage.
3) Third, they insisted that interracial marriage was contrary to God's will, and
4) Fourth, they declared, over and over again, that interracial marriage was somehow "unnatural."
On this fourth point--the supposed "unnaturality" of interracial marriage--judges formed a virtual chorus. Here, for example, is the declaration that the Supreme Court of Virginia used to invalidate a marriage between a black man and a white woman in 1878:
The purity of public morals," the court declared, "the moral and physical development of both races….require that they should be kept distinct and separate… that connections and alliances so unnatural that God and nature seem to forbid them, should be prohibited by positive law, and be subject to no evasion.
The fifth, and final, argument judges would use to justify miscegenation law was undoubtedly the most important; it used these claims that interracial marriage was unnatural and immoral to find a way around the Fourteenth Amendment's guarantee of "equal protection under the laws." How did judges do this? They insisted that because miscegenation laws punished both the black and white partners to an interracial marriage, they affected blacks and whites "equally." This argument, which is usually called the equal application claim, was hammered out in state supreme courts in the late 1870s, endorsed by the United States Supreme Court in 1882, and would be repeated by judges for the next 85 years.
- See more at: History News Network Why the Ugly Rhetoric Against Gay Marriage Is Familiar to this Historian of Miscegenation
Race is not gender, it has no context in this debate, IMO.
Mark
Nope. But, in the case of marriage, either tab A fits into slot B, or its not marriage. No matter how much you wish it to be.
Mark
The law wasn't given until Genesis 2:24. Now what?Adam and Eve weren't married, and Cain and Abel fucked their sisters. Now what?The Jewish God made the rules.We were discussing your idiot God, idiot.Yeah there's an option. You could stop believing in worn out Fairy Tales ...Is there an option?
ROFLMNAO!
Anyone need anything else?
We have YET ANOTHER obama constituent declaring that THE LAWS OF NATURE are "Fairy Tales".
See how that works? Ya can't see it, taste it or touch it, so it doesn't exist.
"Therefore a man leaves his father and his mother and cleaves to his wife, and they become one flesh."
It's in Genesis.
When we have legal marriage for any two adults, ...
Give it a rest dumbass. You lost, get over it.When we have legal marriage for any two adults, ...
Marriage is the joining of one man and one woman.
Using YOUR criteria, a veteran who has has a horrible war wound and lost his junk cannot get legally married. Is that the case?
thats because the gayz are only 3-4% of the pop.
So what?
I'll bet that there's a category you belong to that's a minority... are you sure that you want the government backing mob rule instead of protecting freedom of thought and minority opinion?
Same answer as before, it doesn't fucking matter since marriage in the Bible would make the Mormons and Muslims jump for joy. And you never answered the question, are you for Biblical Marriage, and that means more than one spouse, as well as marrying your sister-in-law and the woman you raped?The law wasn't given until Genesis 2:24. Now what?Adam and Eve weren't married, and Cain and Abel fucked their sisters. Now what?The Jewish God made the rules.We were discussing your idiot God, idiot.Yeah there's an option. You could stop believing in worn out Fairy Tales ...
ROFLMNAO!
Anyone need anything else?
We have YET ANOTHER obama constituent declaring that THE LAWS OF NATURE are "Fairy Tales".
See how that works? Ya can't see it, taste it or touch it, so it doesn't exist.
"Therefore a man leaves his father and his mother and cleaves to his wife, and they become one flesh."
It's in Genesis.
The Jewish God made the rules.We were discussing your idiot God, idiot.Yeah there's an option. You could stop believing in worn out Fairy Tales ...How can you live with a vengeful Deity constantly looking over your shoulder with threats of eternal judgement?
Is there an option?
ROFLMNAO!
Anyone need anything else?
We have YET ANOTHER obama constituent declaring that THE LAWS OF NATURE are "Fairy Tales".
See how that works? Ya can't see it, taste it or touch it, so it doesn't exist.
"Therefore a man leaves his father and his mother and cleaves to his wife, and they become one flesh."
It's in Genesis.
Give it a rest dumbass. You lost, get over it.
Give it a rest dumbass. You lost, get over it.When we have legal marriage for any two adults, ...
Marriage is the joining of one man and one woman.
thats because the gayz are only 3-4% of the pop.
So what?
I'll bet that there's a category you belong to that's a minority... are you sure that you want the government backing mob rule instead of protecting freedom of thought and minority opinion?
Democracy ensures that a small minority of people can't exercise control over the population, which is an oligarchy. The problem is tiny minorities of deviants have found another way to impose their will on the majority and that's to claim that their choice of lifestyle is a "civil right" and get others who don't know the law or the Constitution to go along with it. NAMBLA is watching this process with great interest, seeing how all one has to do is draw "rights" out of thin air to gain approval for their lifestyle even if by cudgel.
Lifestyle choice is not race. It's not gender. It's not anything that's protected under our Constitution. All the faggot brigade has is their ability to lie and shout down all opposition.
That's not the same as being right.
So..Marriage laws require proof of missionary sex to be valid? What about marriages of convenience? They're legal too.It Doesn't FUCKING matter. It has nothing, repeat, nothing to do with Marriage Equality. Got it now?
Marriage is the joining of one man and one woman.
