The Israeli Criminals Behind the NSA Spy Scandal

[daws101]

FIRE AND EXPLOSION INVESTIGATIONS AND FORENSIC ANALYSES:
NEAR- AND LONG-TERM NEEDS ASSESSMENT
FOR STATE AND LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT
A REPORT FOR THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF JUSTICE (NIJ)


Preface
Among the various types of criminal investigations and the varied specialties for forensic
analyses, crimes associated with arson and explosions are sometimes the most difficult
to process and analyze. The inherent destructiveness of the events often compromise
much of the evidence left behind. Ignitable liquids and many individual chemical
compounds are found as contaminants in various matrices from a fire scene. The
residues produced from the complete reaction of explosives are often gases. Those,
which are not gases, are often so common that their presence is not meaningful.

https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/225085.pdf

once again eots cherrypicks the line he "thinks"bolsters his bullshit and disregards the entire context.
such as :]"the inherent destructiveness of the events often compromise
much of the evidence left behind."
as always eots misreads or misinterprets what is presented.

as has been explained to eots the assclown countless times is forensic testing is used to discover WHAT TYPE OF EXPLOSIVE OR ACCELERANT WAS USED. NOT IF AN EXPLOSION HAPPENED...

HERES A CLUE EOTS ....the inherent destructiveness of the events..

 

[Jos]

So Eots is now telling us that not only did they blow up the building but they blew up all proof that they blew up the buildings...

Makes it rather convenient I'd say......

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-F2j8js_INE&sns=em]MUST WATCH!! BEST UNDER 5 MINUTE 911 VIDEO EVER - YouTube[/ame]

 

[daws101]

So Eots is now telling us that not only did they blow up the building but they blew up all proof that they blew up the buildings...

Makes it rather convenient I'd say......

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-F2j8js_INE&sns=em]MUST WATCH!! BEST UNDER 5 MINUTE 911 VIDEO EVER - YouTube[/ame]

not this silly piece of shit again...

 

[Jos]

Sorry, did I miss you de-bunking all or part of what is presented in the short video?

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Sorry, did I miss you de-bunking all or part of what is presented in the short video?

agents Dawgshit and Gomer only come with with pathetic one liners evertime they are cornered by the facts in that video even though its under 5 minutes.. they can only sling shit in defeat like the monkey trolls they are.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Actually, the Official Government theory is the only one that works.

I still love the way some of the CT'ers try to tie Iraq into it as a Motive....Too funny......

"One of the wilder stories circulating about Sept 11, and one that has attracted something of a cult following amongst conspiracy buffs is that it was carried out by 19 fanatical Arab hijackers, masterminded by an evil genius named Osama bin Laden, with no apparent motivation other than that they "hate our freedoms."

Never a group of people to be bothered by facts, the perpetrators of this cartoon fantasy have constructed an elaborately woven web of delusions and unsubstantiated hearsay in order to promote this garbage across the internet and the media to the extent that a number of otherwise rational people have actually fallen under its spell. Normally I don't even bother debunking this kind of junk, but the effect that this paranoid myth is beginning to have requires a little rational analysis, in order to consign it to the same rubbish bin as all such silly conspiracy theories.

These crackpots even contend that the extremist Bush regime was caught unawares by the attacks, had no hand in organizing them, and actually would have stopped them if it had been able. Blindly ignoring the stand-down of the US Air Force, the insider trading on airline stocks — linked to the CIA, the complicit behavior of Bush on the morning of the attacks, the controlled demolition of the WTC, the firing of a missile into the Pentagon and a host of other documented proofs that the Bush regime was behind the attacks, the conspiracy theorists stick doggedly to a silly story about 19 Arab hijackers somehow managing to commandeer 4 planes simultaneously and fly them around US airspace for nearly 2 hours, crashing them into important buildings, without the US intelligence services having any idea that it was coming, and without the Air Force knowing what to do."

"At a less serious time, we might tolerate such crackpots with amused detachment, but they need to understand that the treachery that was perpetrated on Sept 11, and the subsequent war crimes committed in "retaliation", are far too serious for us to allow such frivolous self-indulgence to go unchallenged."
Debunking Conspiracies 9/11 review

as stated in previous post,they can only sling shit in defeat like the monkey trolls they are.

 

[daws101]

Sorry, did I miss you de-bunking all or part of what is presented in the short video?

yes in fact you did many times..
I feel no need to rehash it again ..
it's paranoid bullshit from beginning to end.
anyone who gives it any credence has issues.

 

[SFC Ollie]

So Eots is now telling us that not only did they blow up the building but they blew up all proof that they blew up the buildings...

Makes it rather convenient I'd say......

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-F2j8js_INE&sns=em]MUST WATCH!! BEST UNDER 5 MINUTE 911 VIDEO EVER - YouTube[/ame]

We've seen it. And it is full of misrepresentations. Got anything real?

 

[eots]

So Eots is now telling us that not only did they blow up the building but they blew up all proof that they blew up the buildings...

Makes it rather convenient I'd say......

there are no identifiable pieces left after they explode ollie thats why test are done for residue..which NIST refused to do

 

[daws101]

So Eots is now telling us that not only did they blow up the building but they blew up all proof that they blew up the buildings...

Makes it rather convenient I'd say......

there are no identifiable pieces left after they explode ollie thats why test are done for residue..which NIST refused to do

wrong. once again eots cherrypicks the line he "thinks"bolsters his bullshit and disregards the entire context.
such as :]"the inherent destructiveness of the events often compromise
much of the evidence left behind."
as always eots misreads or misinterprets what is presented.

as has been explained to eots the assclown countless times that forensic testing is used to discover WHAT TYPE OF EXPLOSIVE OR ACCELERANT WAS USED. NOT IF AN EXPLOSION HAPPENED...

HERES A CLUE EOTS ....the inherent destructiveness of the events..

 

[eots]

bullshit! detonated "explosive" charges leave obvious visible proof.
so would thermite...

really ? and what specifically would this obvious physical proof look like ?

also it seems more likely wireless detonators and charges would of been used

 

[daws101]

really ? and what specifically would this obvious physical proof look like ?

also it seems more likely wireless detonators and charges would of been used

pure conjecture.

 

[eots]

NIST never claimed the reason they did no forensic testing was that found they no pieces of explosives ..they said..no loud noises where heard so they did no forensic testing

 

[eots]

also it seems more likely wireless detonators and charges would of been used

pure conjecture.

no more so than the NIST collapse theory...in fact they basically admit this fact

 

[SFC Ollie]

So Eots is now telling us that not only did they blow up the building but they blew up all proof that they blew up the buildings...

Makes it rather convenient I'd say......

there are no identifiable pieces left after they explode ollie thats why test are done for residue..which NIST refused to do

I guess we always did it wrong....Almost always found pieces of det cord and caps......

I wonder why there were none found in such a monumentally huge job, there had to have been thousands of them to start with, and miles of det cord.

 

[SFC Ollie]

really ? and what specifically would this obvious physical proof look like ?

also it seems more likely wireless detonators and charges would of been used

Wireless when the whole city was having problems communicating? Really? And nothing went off early or late either.... Major miracle..........

 

[daws101]

NIST never claimed the reason they did no forensic testing was that found they no pieces of explosives ..they said..no loud noises where heard so they did no forensic testing

NIST’s findings also do not support the “controlled demolition” theory since there is conclusive evidence that:
•the collapse was initiated in the impact and fire floors of the WTC towers and nowhere else, and;
•the time it took for the collapse to initiate (56 minutes for WTC 2 and 102 minutes for WTC 1) was dictated by (1) the extent of damage caused by the aircraft impact, and (2) the time it took for the fires to reach critical locations and weaken the structure to the point that the towers could not resist the tremendous energy released by the downward movement of the massive top section of the building at and above the fire and impact floors.

Video evidence also showed unambiguously that the collapse progressed from the top to the bottom, and there was no evidence (collected by NIST or by the New York City Police Department, the Port Authority Police Department, or the Fire Department of New York) of any blast or explosions in the region below the impact and fire floors as the top building sections (including and above the 98th floor in WTC 1 and the 82nd floor in WTC 2) began their downward movement upon collapse initiation.

In summary, NIST found no corroborating evidence for alternative hypotheses suggesting that the WTC towers were brought down by controlled demolition using explosives. NIST also did not find any evidence that missiles were fired at or hit the towers. Instead, photographs and videos from several angles clearly show that the collapse initiated at the fire and impact floors and that the collapse progressed from the initiating floors downward until the dust clouds obscured the view.

9. Weren't the puffs of smoke that were seen, as the collapse of each WTC tower starts, evidence of controlled demolition explosions?

No. As stated in Section 6.14.4 of NIST NCSTAR 1, the falling mass of the building compressed the air ahead of it—much like the action of a piston—forcing smoke and debris out the windows as the stories below failed sequentially.

These puffs were observed at many locations as the towers collapsed. In all cases, they had the appearance of jets of gas being pushed from the building through windows or between columns on the mechanical floors. Such jets are expected since the air inside the building is compressed as the tower falls and must flow somewhere as the pressure builds. It is significant that similar “puffs” were observed numerous times on the fire floors in both towers prior to their collapses, perhaps due to falling walls or portions of a floor. Puffs from WTC 1 were even observed when WTC 2 was struck by the aircraft. These observations confirm that even minor overpressures were transmitted through the towers and forced smoke and debris from the building.

10. Why were two distinct spikes—one for each tower—seen in seismic records before the towers collapsed? Isn't this indicative of an explosion occurring in each tower?

The seismic spikes for the collapse of the WTC towers are the result of debris from the collapsing towers impacting the ground. The spikes began approximately 10 seconds after the times for the start of each building’s collapse and continued for approximately 15 seconds. There were no seismic signals that occurred prior to the initiation of the collapse of either tower. The seismic record contains no evidence that would indicate explosions occurring prior to the collapse of the towers.
FAQs - NIST WTC Towers Investigation

 

[eots]

The focus of the Investigation was on the sequence of events from the instant of aircraft impact to the initiation of collapse for each tower. For brevity in this report, this sequence is referred to as the "probable collapse sequence," although it includes little analysis of the structural behavior of the tower after the conditions for collapse initiation were reached and collapse became inevitable.

About the NIST World Trade Center Disaster Investigation


they could not explain the collapse in its entirety so they simple end the report with the initiation of the collapse sequence...no need to explain what happened to the massive core that way...at best its a incomplete theory

 

[daws101]

The focus of the Investigation was on the sequence of events from the instant of aircraft impact to the initiation of collapse for each tower. For brevity in this report, this sequence is referred to as the "probable collapse sequence," although it includes little analysis of the structural behavior of the tower after the conditions for collapse initiation were reached and collapse became inevitable.

About the NIST World Trade Center Disaster Investigation


they could not explain the collapse in its entirety so they simple end the report with the initiation of the collapse sequence...no need to explain what happened to the massive core that way...at best its a incomplete theory

and it in no way proves you're conspiracy fantasy correct.

 

[eots]

So Eots is now telling us that not only did they blow up the building but they blew up all proof that they blew up the buildings...

Makes it rather convenient I'd say......

there are no identifiable pieces left after they explode ollie thats why test are done for residue..which NIST refused to do

I guess we always did it wrong....Almost always found pieces of det cord and caps......

I wonder why there were none found in such a monumentally huge job, there had to have been thousands of them to start with, and miles of det cord.

depends what type of explosives and detonators you use experts from controlled demolition inc have stated it is all but impossible to find visible evidence of charges after detonation and there is no need for wires..not to mention the wtc would of been full of all kinds of wires a pieces of electronics
if it was as you say ollie they would never be a need for forensic testing for explosive residue