The Judgement and the Defendant in a Court of Law - Judge Engoron v Mr. Trump. The Ruling.

[westwall]

True. I would best describe Progressives as Communists also.

Communists, fascists, socialists, all the same house, just a different color.

 

[August West]

A professor at Wharton told his class that 90% of their grade will be based on attendance. One of Trump`s classmates said that Donald never missed a class and never opened a book. Now he`s paying the price for choosing ignorance.

 

[IM2]

What you sick fuckers want is to kill off all opposition to your agenda. 100% far Left ONE PARTY rule, amirite?

No, you aren't right.

 

[IM2]

Even Katy Tur said the case was unique in not having a victim.

Katy Tur is not a lawyer.

 

[JohnDB]

 

[JohnDB]

 

[Care4all]

Trump got sweetheart deals on his loans because he inflated the value of his collateral

And other businesses seeking loans, who told the truth about their assets and did not inflate them, did not get the favorable loan.

 

[Care4all]

Mara Lago is not worth more money because of its DEED RESTRICTIONS that prevent it from becoming a single family mansion....it can only be a Resort, with restriction to expand.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Mara Lago is not worth more money because of its DEED RESTRICTIONS that prevent it from becoming a single family mansion....it can only be a Resort, with restriction to expand.

That was the only part that I didnt understand. Thank you.

 

[Care4all]

That was the only part that I didnt understand. Thank you.

The deed restrictions limits Mara Lago value.

 

[Care4all]

Also, Engoron and James did not claim Mara Lago was worth only $18 million.

They were quoting what the property appraiser said Mara Lago was valued, at the time....what trump paid property tax on.....

 

[Chillicothe]

(First, note: There is no intention to continue dragging a duly elected civil servant's name through the mud. Instead, we are merely establishing that for some posters --whose names need not be mentioned ---but for some, their misogyny clearly blinds them more than their fringie political partisanship.)

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A prolific poster is offering the forum his outrage over alleged crimes and facts.

• "This kunt invented a criminal statute......"

• "Oh? Pointing out well established facts is being triggered?"

You be the judge.

 

[JoeB131]

For fraud to have occurred there must be a VICTIM.

No bank claimed a loss.

It's a purely political, bullshit persecution.

I think the issue here is "reckless endangerment".

You can be thrown in prison for merely endangering someone, even if no one was actually harmed.

Case in point, IF the real estate market took another crapper like it did in 2008, and Trump couldn't pay his loans, the banks would have been stuck with properties that were nowhere near what Trump claimed they were.

Thus, the banks were victims of reckless endangerment by Trump.

 

[JoeB131]

Charged and convicted of a victimless crime?
Charged and convicted under a New York anti-fraud law typically used to protect consumers.

These lefties have created an unstoppable candidate.

Dream on, buddy.

I think rational people are starting to wonder if they really want another four years of Trump and his drama.

 

[GMCGeneral]

Dream on, buddy.

I think rational people are starting to wonder if they really want another four years of Trump and his drama.

Ŵe would prefer that over anything you dogshit Democrats offer.

 

[JoeB131]

The judgement will be reversed.

Opinion analysis: Eighth Amendment’s ban on excessive fines applies to the states - SCOTUSblog

The Supreme Court today ruled that the Eighth Amendment’s ban on excessive fines applies to the states. The decision is a victory for an Indiana man whose luxury SUV was seized after he pleaded guilty to selling heroin. It is also a blow to state and local governments, for whom fines and forfeitures

www.scotusblog.com

Except this isn't an excessive fine. It represents the amount of profit that Trump made off of the fraud.

 

[JoeB131]

Ŵe would prefer that over anything you dogshit Democrats offer.

Well, you would, which is why I specified RATIONAL people.

You Trump Cultists aren't rational.

 

[westwall]

Except this isn't an excessive fine. It represents the amount of profit that Trump made off of the fraud.

That's not how it works, and is a clear violation of the 8th Amendment.

Not that you care about following the laws of this land.

 

[westwall]

Well, you would, which is why I specified RATIONAL people.

You Trump Cultists aren't rational.

Screeches one of the most irrational people to exist.

 

[JoeB131]

That's not how it works, and is a clear violation of the 8th Amendment.

Not that you care about following the laws of this land.

Except there's nothing excessive in this verdict. Other companies have paid far more for far less egregious behavior.

15 Biggest Compliance Fines ($1Billion and Above)

Look at the biggest compliance & bank fines from 2012 to 2022, involving Western financial institutions like the Bank of America, JP Morgan, and more.

www.enzuzo.com

Screeches one of the most irrational people to exist.

Scorn from the cultists is amusing.