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it's not good for the economy.It is why the left is advocating for a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage and health care for the poor; unlike the right wing.[
With the death of unions so goes the middle class. Who is killing the unions? The rich hate the middle class.
The Unions are long gone. The only thing left is the Public Employee unions, which are not unions at all, just the entrenched bureaucracy feeding their greedy maw at the expense of the productive sector.
Unions and Corporations are two forms of voluntary collectivism in a market economy. Most people grasp that monopolies are damaging to the public and to the economy. What the left doesn't seem to grasp is that this is true regardless of whether the monopoly is among corporations or among unions. Either way the public gets fucked by a trust that uses monopoly power to set prices that the market will not and cannot support.
Real unions died 40 years ago. The committed by pricing American workers out of the market, assuming their monopoly would protect them from the market. But the monopoly of the AFL/CIO only had their monopoly in America, escaping the price gouging of them meant jobs going out of the country. The unions broke, leaving us with predatory corporations that have no natural balance, a very bad thing for America, all based on the unbridled greed of the Monopoly that was the unions.
Still the middle thrived, until Obama got in office. The real decline in middle class wages started in 2007, which is understandable since that was the start of a recession. What is NOT understandable is that they NEVER rebounded until Trump took office. Now they are finally headed back up. Had Mafia Boss Hillary won, they would still be dropping.
Wages were headed up a bit before Trump. I've not seen any evidence yet that has continued. The middle class has been screwed for decades.
For most workers, real wages have barely budged for decades
[CEOs over value themselves and under value the workers
Great,
What about LeBron James who charges $300 for a single seat to watch him play while pocketing hundreds of millions, then telling us how tough he has it "cuz he be black."
That's different though, I mean they are celebrities, and you leftists LOVE celebrities, because they aren't greedy or anything with their humble hundred million dollar homes, not like the greedy CEO's with their million dollar mansions.
You fascists sure are smart.
the rich owner merely wants to win, and it is LeBron's market value. It's what successful owners do. It's why CEOs make as much as they do. Owners wish to win.[CEOs over value themselves and under value the workers
Great,
What about LeBron James who charges $300 for a single seat to watch him play while pocketing hundreds of millions, then telling us how tough he has it "cuz he be black."
That's different though, I mean they are celebrities, and you leftists LOVE celebrities, because they aren't greedy or anything with their humble hundred million dollar homes, not like the greedy CEO's with their million dollar mansions.
You fascists sure are smart.
The rich owner of the team chooses to pay him that much.
All the right wing knows how to do, is cut taxes for the rich and cut benefits for the poor.Yeah....stuff like keeping you safe.......thank God Democrats are here to make sure you aren't.I'm glad the GOP can't get done what it wants to get done.A, green jobs are where it's at. B, Hillary couldn't do it on her own. The middle class has been fucking itself since 2010. And fucked themselves in 2000 and 2004 too. A democratic president can't do it alone. So I'm glad Republicans own it all now. Prove your way works and creates a strong happy middle classso hitlery had no plan for the middle class. The group of people the libs love to put on a pedestal and then fk with policy. yep. Especially energy jobs. Shit Hitlery told it right to the coal miners face. just wow. yeah,Yea, we did give up on bringing high paying blue collar union jobs back home. Stupid democrats. That's how Trump was able to claim this issue. Brilliant. But his only plan to raise wages is to kick illegals out. Lets see how much that works.
We will certainly see now. I definitely don't want to hear more excuses since they control everything.
Every 2 years we have this conversation. Not you specifically but you rwnjs. Piss off.you really hate the rich people eh?Bullshit. Most CEOs came via ivy league silver spoons. Fortune 500.Whatever. They came from nothing and haven't forgot where they came from.They are the ultimate employees making what they are worth. The owner can't go get another lebron
Yeah, it's not a double standard cuz they support the leftist elite....
You literally have no brain.
Charles Barkley is a republican
Charles Barkley is a brilliant man with a knowledge of economics that is extraordinary.
Many CEO's also came from nothing.
You are just a hack applying a double standard.
They are the elite.
what about the middle class, or don't you give a shit about them?All the right wing knows how to do, is cut taxes for the rich and cut benefits for the poor.Yeah....stuff like keeping you safe.......thank God Democrats are here to make sure you aren't.I'm glad the GOP can't get done what it wants to get done.A, green jobs are where it's at. B, Hillary couldn't do it on her own. The middle class has been fucking itself since 2010. And fucked themselves in 2000 and 2004 too. A democratic president can't do it alone. So I'm glad Republicans own it all now. Prove your way works and creates a strong happy middle classso hitlery had no plan for the middle class. The group of people the libs love to put on a pedestal and then fk with policy. yep. Especially energy jobs. Shit Hitlery told it right to the coal miners face. just wow. yeah,
We will certainly see now. I definitely don't want to hear more excuses since they control everything.
They don't know how to win wars on crime, drugs, or terror.
Tax cuts for the rich and benefits cuts for the poor; that is their claim.What I like about all Republican rule is they got no more excuses. I said it was bush hastert and delay that fucked us and I say Trump Ryan and McConnell will too. Trickle down don't work. You'll see
We will only see if they do something. They seem in no rush to test their claims.
yep you do. it's called biting the hand that feeds you and you can't attack fast enough. I merely want what's mine based on market value. not so much yourself. you watch what others make and get jealous.Every 2 years we have this conversation. Not you specifically but you rwnjs. Piss off.you really hate the rich people eh?Bullshit. Most CEOs came via ivy league silver spoons. Fortune 500.Whatever. They came from nothing and haven't forgot where they came from.Yeah, it's not a double standard cuz they support the leftist elite....
You literally have no brain.
Charles Barkley is a republican
Charles Barkley is a brilliant man with a knowledge of economics that is extraordinary.
Many CEO's also came from nothing.
You are just a hack applying a double standard.
They are the elite.
You really hate the middle class? That's why you haven't given us a raise while CEO pay went up 300%
Are you greedy or stupid?
Only during real times of War and not real times of Peace, Herr Himmler.Class warfare has been waged on us since the 70s. They broke the social contract we had until companies like ge bla bla blaNever forget that the Bourgeoisie is the middle class, not the "rich," but the merchants and craftsman of the middle.
The left has waged war against the middle class since the time of Karl Marx. All of the current talk about Obama's class warfare against the rich is a smokescreen, the war the left wages against America is a war to crush and obliterate the middle class.
Ending the middle class is, and always has been, the primary goal of the left.
Lets see what Republicans do for the middle class in the next 2-8 years.
Liberals decidedly favor forms of heavy sided Socialist forms of Governments. Socialism across the spectrum favors two classes: an elite 1 percent and the masses a, no middle class. Many leaders, thought leaders, economic and social leaders advocating for Socialism ultimately realize that a healthy middle class stands in their way. They use the misnomer of "income inequality" as a means to create class warfare. When class warfare fires are stoked, it is the middle class that gets burned, not the wealthy.
That is when CEO wages began to skyrocket.
Do you think the government should set a maximum wage for CEO's? (but not Hollywood stars or Sports stars, never them!)
trump is brighter.Mr. Perot, "ran as independent"; he did not, "free ride" on the republican party.it really isn't his party. he ran as a GOP, he got mistreated the entire election process by them. I'd say that is a complex situation.well first he needs congress to be congress. and stop with all the russia hoax bullshit. See, again, both parties deviating from the needs of middle class americans investigating a hoax. I tell you.Let's all hope he delivers. I don't have much faith in his ideas, but would rather be wrong.
I think congress will find any reason to do nothing. But it is his party. If he can't get them to do something it doesn't say much about his leadership.
what is trickle down mean exactly. explain.What I like about all Republican rule is they got no more excuses. I said it was bush hastert and delay that fucked us and I say Trump Ryan and McConnell will too. Trickle down don't work. You'll see
Remember that racist Sterling owner of the clippers? He had a profitable formula. Lose. Get good draft picks. Start winning. Don't pay players what they are worth. Lose them to trade. Start losing again. Get good draft picks, start winning again, repeat.the rich owner merely wants to win, and it is LeBron's market value. It's what successful owners do. It's why CEOs make as much as they do. Owners wish to win.[CEOs over value themselves and under value the workers
Great,
What about LeBron James who charges $300 for a single seat to watch him play while pocketing hundreds of millions, then telling us how tough he has it "cuz he be black."
That's different though, I mean they are celebrities, and you leftists LOVE celebrities, because they aren't greedy or anything with their humble hundred million dollar homes, not like the greedy CEO's with their million dollar mansions.
You fascists sure are smart.
The rich owner of the team chooses to pay him that much.
Only in right wing fantasy is there no distinction regarding division of labor and specialization.I think CEO pay is a racket. The boards are filled with other ceos also wanting raises. Some CEO decides to pay Hollywood and sports stars that money. You suggesting they are doing a crappy job?
Of course you do, not like Ben Affleck who deserves every dime he gets.
But you know, both the Hollywood left and the CEO's are on the same compensation model. Both are paid based on the revenue they generate. Most CEO compensation is in the form of stock and stock options. If they make no money for the company, then they don't get a payday.
how much?If the actor/athlete makes that much how much does the owner or CEO make? Martin scorsleasy or Quinton tarrintinoScreen actors union. Good point. Actors used to get taken advantage of. Athletes too. Also unionizedClass warfare has been waged on us since the 70s. They broke the social contract we had until companies like ge bla bla bla
That is when CEO wages began to skyrocket.
Do you think the government should set a maximum wage for CEO's? (but not Hollywood stars or Sports stars, never them!)
Oh yeah, poor actors are withering away with there measly hundreds of millions. Not like the greedy CEO's with their tens of millions.
You fascists are so smart!
Don't cry about the widening gap between rich and poor then. It's one of the reasons the gap is widening.yep you do. it's called biting the hand that feeds you and you can't attack fast enough. I merely what's mine based on market value. not so much yourself. you watch what others make and get jealous.Every 2 years we have this conversation. Not you specifically but you rwnjs. Piss off.you really hate the rich people eh?Bullshit. Most CEOs came via ivy league silver spoons. Fortune 500.Whatever. They came from nothing and haven't forgot where they came from.
Charles Barkley is a republican
Charles Barkley is a brilliant man with a knowledge of economics that is extraordinary.
Many CEO's also came from nothing.
You are just a hack applying a double standard.
They are the elite.
You really hate the middle class? That's why you haven't given us a raise while CEO pay went up 300%
Are you greedy or stupid?
same as a CEO right? cause not everyone on the team makes lebron's salary, right? so you made his case.They are the ultimate employees making what they are worth. The owner can't go get another lebron[CEOs over value themselves and under value the workers
Great,
What about LeBron James who charges $300 for a single seat to watch him play while pocketing hundreds of millions, then telling us how tough he has it "cuz he be black."
That's different though, I mean they are celebrities, and you leftists LOVE celebrities, because they aren't greedy or anything with their humble hundred million dollar homes, not like the greedy CEO's with their million dollar mansions.
You fascists sure are smart.
We have a Constitution.he was elected because he had a plan. He has introduced that plan to congress and they keep taking breaks. hmmmmm. still not seeing how this is on trump. He doesn't run the GOP as I stated before, they didn't want him. I did and 63 million others did. Now they can all die on the vine or get their fking act together and get done what the people voted on.how? they don't fking care. It's fking obvious. those GOPers are going to feel the pain, not Trump.it really isn't his party. he ran as a GOP, he got mistreated the entire election process by them. I'd say that is a complex situation.I think congress will find any reason to do nothing. But it is his party. If he can't get them to do something it doesn't say much about his leadership.
I agree, but I still think he should be able to influence them to action.
That's why he was elected right? I mean he promised to do all these things. Doing them requires he at least gets his own party in line, he certainly isn't reaching out to the democrats.
you see me crying bubba? I'm laughing at you whining away about the rich and the poor. not I fool.Don't cry about the widening gap between rich and poor then. It's one of the reasons the gap is widening.yep you do. it's called biting the hand that feeds you and you can't attack fast enough. I merely what's mine based on market value. not so much yourself. you watch what others make and get jealous.Every 2 years we have this conversation. Not you specifically but you rwnjs. Piss off.you really hate the rich people eh?Bullshit. Most CEOs came via ivy league silver spoons. Fortune 500.Charles Barkley is a brilliant man with a knowledge of economics that is extraordinary.
Many CEO's also came from nothing.
You are just a hack applying a double standard.
They are the elite.
You really hate the middle class? That's why you haven't given us a raise while CEO pay went up 300%
Are you greedy or stupid?
More? How much does Stan Lee make vs. Robert Downey Jr?how much?If the actor/athlete makes that much how much does the owner or CEO make? Martin scorsleasy or Quinton tarrintinoScreen actors union. Good point. Actors used to get taken advantage of. Athletes too. Also unionizedThat is when CEO wages began to skyrocket.
Do you think the government should set a maximum wage for CEO's? (but not Hollywood stars or Sports stars, never them!)
Oh yeah, poor actors are withering away with there measly hundreds of millions. Not like the greedy CEO's with their tens of millions.
You fascists are so smart!
we do!We have a Constitution.he was elected because he had a plan. He has introduced that plan to congress and they keep taking breaks. hmmmmm. still not seeing how this is on trump. He doesn't run the GOP as I stated before, they didn't want him. I did and 63 million others did. Now they can all die on the vine or get their fking act together and get done what the people voted on.how? they don't fking care. It's fking obvious. those GOPers are going to feel the pain, not Trump.it really isn't his party. he ran as a GOP, he got mistreated the entire election process by them. I'd say that is a complex situation.
I agree, but I still think he should be able to influence them to action.
That's why he was elected right? I mean he promised to do all these things. Doing them requires he at least gets his own party in line, he certainly isn't reaching out to the democrats.
