The Left hates the Middle Class

[jc456]

[The Middle-Class makes more than $15 hr.

Not once the democrats get through.

I'm just sayin...

they want no middle class. they want elites and puppets.

 

[jc456]

[CEOs over value themselves and under value the workers

Great,

What about LeBron James who charges $300 for a single seat to watch him play while pocketing hundreds of millions, then telling us how tough he has it "cuz he be black."

That's different though, I mean they are celebrities, and you leftists LOVE celebrities, because they aren't greedy or anything with their humble hundred million dollar homes, not like the greedy CEO's with their million dollar mansions.

You fascists sure are smart.

The rich owner of the team chooses to pay him that much.

the rich owner merely wants to win, and it is LeBron's market value. It's what successful owners do. It's why CEOs make as much as they do. Owners wish to win.

Remember that racist Sterling owner of the clippers? He had a profitable formula. Lose. Get good draft picks. Start winning. Don't pay players what they are worth. Lose them to trade. Start losing again. Get good draft picks, start winning again, repeat.

yep, he's gone.

 

[jc456]

Yeah, it's not a double standard cuz they support the leftist elite....

You literally have no brain.

Whatever. They came from nothing and haven't forgot where they came from.

Charles Barkley is a republican

Charles Barkley is a brilliant man with a knowledge of economics that is extraordinary.

Many CEO's also came from nothing.

You are just a hack applying a double standard.

My bro got a masters from msu. Could of he fortune 500 makes 1.5 million a year. Yes sure he's worth that much.

But since you're ok with it I'd take it too if I were him.

He came from nothing. Very rare he would ever become CEO.

in english

what do you not understand? ask questions.

what does this mean?

Could of he fortune 500 makes 1.5 million a year. Yes sure he's worth that much.

I see you don't have proof reading as a skill either.

 

[jc456]

We will certainly see now. I definitely don't want to hear more excuses since they control everything.

I'm glad the GOP can't get done what it wants to get done.

Yeah....stuff like keeping you safe.......thank God Democrats are here to make sure you aren't.

All the right wing knows how to do, is cut taxes for the rich and cut benefits for the poor.

They don't know how to win wars on crime, drugs, or terror.

what about the middle class, or don't you give a shit about them?

A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage and health care for the poor, lifts many boats, including middle class boats.

no, it destroys an economy. But why would you know that? The government has no business setting salaries. The market does. Let the market move the money. for fk sake,

 

[jc456]

What I like about all Republican rule is they got no more excuses. I said it was bush hastert and delay that fucked us and I say Trump Ryan and McConnell will too. Trickle down don't work. You'll see

what is trickle down mean exactly. explain.

In practical terms, it means, bailout the rich and then, let it trickle down.

When the rich have more, more trickles down to everyone else. I think we have seen that doesn't happen.

but that is not the intent, and like everything else in economics, you have no idea. It doesn't work because it can't. It's a theoretical left mind game to get votes and to punish GOPers. When the rich are the democrats. It's fking hilarious how much you stupid fks don't know.

 

[jc456]

Do we all agree a shrinking middle class is bad? I believe it is why economic growth is so slow. A strong middle class is what made us such a strong country.

Solving simple poverty can do much more.

Consider what "full employment of capital resources" could mean to Any private sector.

Capital must merely circulate to engender a positive multiplier effect.

I'm not sure poverty can be solved. We
Need less of a blur between middle class and poverty. Middle class should be easy to attain with hard work.

there will always be poverty, amen. certain people have no desire to pursue excellence. And yet the left think it can be done by giving them money and more money and more money.

 

[Brain357]

I think congress will find any reason to do nothing. But it is his party. If he can't get them to do something it doesn't say much about his leadership.

it really isn't his party. he ran as a GOP, he got mistreated the entire election process by them. I'd say that is a complex situation.

Mr. Perot, "ran as independent"; he did not, "free ride" on the republican party.

trump is brighter.

Wasn't trump in the reform party?

was he?

Donald Trump presidential campaign, 2000 - Wikipedia

 

[Brain357]

Do we all agree a shrinking middle class is bad? I believe it is why economic growth is so slow. A strong middle class is what made us such a strong country.

Solving simple poverty can do much more.

Consider what "full employment of capital resources" could mean to Any private sector.

Capital must merely circulate to engender a positive multiplier effect.

I'm not sure poverty can be solved. We
Need less of a blur between middle class and poverty. Middle class should be easy to attain with hard work.

there will always be poverty, amen. certain people have no desire to pursue excellence. And yet the left think it can be done by giving them money and more money and more money.

The goal should be a way out of poverty for those who are willing to work. Now I think we have too many who work hard but get little in return.

 

[jc456]

Do we all agree a shrinking middle class is bad? I believe it is why economic growth is so slow. A strong middle class is what made us such a strong country.

Solving simple poverty can do much more.

Consider what "full employment of capital resources" could mean to Any private sector.

Capital must merely circulate to engender a positive multiplier effect.

I'm not sure poverty can be solved. We
Need less of a blur between middle class and poverty. Middle class should be easy to attain with hard work.

there will always be poverty, amen. certain people have no desire to pursue excellence. And yet the left think it can be done by giving them money and more money and more money.

The goal should be a way out of poverty for those who are willing to work. Now I think we have too many who work hard but get little in return.

too many? what kind of jobs are they getting? Oh yeah, the ones paying 8 dollars an hour at McDonalds and think that salary is supposed to be a career salary. Nope. Never intended to accept as a management position. They need to get through a process of successes and move up job class. And that is the work part they are not always willing to give.

 

[jc456]

it really isn't his party. he ran as a GOP, he got mistreated the entire election process by them. I'd say that is a complex situation.

Mr. Perot, "ran as independent"; he did not, "free ride" on the republican party.

trump is brighter.

Wasn't trump in the reform party?

was he?

Donald Trump presidential campaign, 2000 - Wikipedia

I'm not following your point here.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Never forget that the Bourgeoisie is the middle class, not the "rich," but the merchants and craftsman of the middle.

The left has waged war against the middle class since the time of Karl Marx. All of the current talk about Obama's class warfare against the rich is a smokescreen, the war the left wages against America is a war to crush and obliterate the middle class.

Ending the middle class is, and always has been, the primary goal of the left.

Lets see what Republicans do for the middle class in the next 2-8 years.

Liberals decidedly favor forms of heavy sided Socialist forms of Governments. Socialism across the spectrum favors two classes: an elite 1 percent and the masses a, no middle class. Many leaders, thought leaders, economic and social leaders advocating for Socialism ultimately realize that a healthy middle class stands in their way. They use the misnomer of "income inequality" as a means to create class warfare. When class warfare fires are stoked, it is the middle class that gets burned, not the wealthy.

A large majority of adults in the selected Western European countries live in middle-income households. In 2010, the shares of adults who are middle income ranged from 64% in Spain to about 80% in Denmark, the Netherlands and Norway. These shares were considerably higher than in the U.S., where fewer than six-in-ten adults were middle income in 2010.

Across the countries examined, a smaller middle-income tier signals a more economically divided population. Among these countries, the U.S. has not only the smallest share of adults living in middle-income households, but also the largest shares of adults in lower- and upper-income households. By comparison, the lower- and upper-income tiers in Denmark, the Netherlands and Norway are of modest size. The size of the middle class in a country also signals the degree of income inequality there: Countries with smaller middle classes have higher levels of income inequality.

1. The middle class is large in many Western European countries, but it is losing ground in places

All countries have income inequality. The US offers the most for economic opportunity advancement from class to class. Further, what is defined as a middle class in the countries you mentioned vs. the US? What is the level of opportunity for economic advancement,comparatively speaking?

 

[LeftofLeft]

Never forget that the Bourgeoisie is the middle class, not the "rich," but the merchants and craftsman of the middle.

The left has waged war against the middle class since the time of Karl Marx. All of the current talk about Obama's class warfare against the rich is a smokescreen, the war the left wages against America is a war to crush and obliterate the middle class.

Ending the middle class is, and always has been, the primary goal of the left.

Lets see what Republicans do for the middle class in the next 2-8 years.

Liberals decidedly favor forms of heavy sided Socialist forms of Governments. Socialism across the spectrum favors two classes: an elite 1 percent and the masses a, no middle class. Many leaders, thought leaders, economic and social leaders advocating for Socialism ultimately realize that a healthy middle class stands in their way. They use the misnomer of "income inequality" as a means to create class warfare. When class warfare fires are stoked, it is the middle class that gets burned, not the wealthy.

Class warfare has been waged on us since the 70s. They broke the social contract we had until companies like ge bla bla bla

That is when CEO wages began to skyrocket.

Do you think the government should set a maximum wage for CEO's? (but not Hollywood stars or Sports stars, never them!)

It's always the CEOs that need to be capped, never the athletes and entertainers. While we are at it, let's also throw in the Presidents of higher education institutions? Liberals nod their heads when Elizabeth Warren trashes Wall Street and Executive pay......all the while having earned $300,000 per year to teach ONE class. Liberals will say that the CEOs are exploiting the workers. Based on their logic, I would argue that the entertainers, athletes, and BigEd teachers' are exploiting peoples' hard-earned dollars.

 

[sealybobo]

Charles Barkley is a brilliant man with a knowledge of economics that is extraordinary.

Many CEO's also came from nothing.

You are just a hack applying a double standard.

My bro got a masters from msu. Could of he fortune 500 makes 1.5 million a year. Yes sure he's worth that much.

But since you're ok with it I'd take it too if I were him.

He came from nothing. Very rare he would ever become CEO.

in english

what do you not understand? ask questions.

The left wants the middle class to be paid more. The rich can afford it and the solution to poverty is a big middle class. No excuse if it's easy to get out of poverty. The wealth gap is a problem. Government could solve this if free market capitalism wont

The right think that's unfair. They shouldn't have to pay more even if their greed is ruining our economy.

So the right can't claim to care about the middle class. If it disappears tough.

The Middle-Class makes more than $15 hr.

That's not a lot

 

[Brain357]

Do we all agree a shrinking middle class is bad? I believe it is why economic growth is so slow. A strong middle class is what made us such a strong country.

Solving simple poverty can do much more.

Consider what "full employment of capital resources" could mean to Any private sector.

Capital must merely circulate to engender a positive multiplier effect.

I'm not sure poverty can be solved. We
Need less of a blur between middle class and poverty. Middle class should be easy to attain with hard work.

there will always be poverty, amen. certain people have no desire to pursue excellence. And yet the left think it can be done by giving them money and more money and more money.

The goal should be a way out of poverty for those who are willing to work. Now I think we have too many who work hard but get little in return.

too many? what kind of jobs are they getting? Oh yeah, the ones paying 8 dollars an hour at McDonalds and think that salary is supposed to be a career salary. Nope. Never intended to accept as a management position. They need to get through a process of successes and move up job class. And that is the work part they are not always willing to give.

Well that's the problem. For too many jobs like McDonalds are the only option and even while working hard they get little in return. We are moving to a service economy, those jobs might require more pay if we can make the middle class strong again. Everybody can't be a manager.

 

[Brain357]

Mr. Perot, "ran as independent"; he did not, "free ride" on the republican party.

trump is brighter.

Wasn't trump in the reform party?

was he?

Donald Trump presidential campaign, 2000 - Wikipedia

I'm not following your point here.

Just an interesting fact.

 

[Brain357]

Lets see what Republicans do for the middle class in the next 2-8 years.

Liberals decidedly favor forms of heavy sided Socialist forms of Governments. Socialism across the spectrum favors two classes: an elite 1 percent and the masses a, no middle class. Many leaders, thought leaders, economic and social leaders advocating for Socialism ultimately realize that a healthy middle class stands in their way. They use the misnomer of "income inequality" as a means to create class warfare. When class warfare fires are stoked, it is the middle class that gets burned, not the wealthy.

Class warfare has been waged on us since the 70s. They broke the social contract we had until companies like ge bla bla bla

That is when CEO wages began to skyrocket.

Do you think the government should set a maximum wage for CEO's? (but not Hollywood stars or Sports stars, never them!)

It's always the CEOs that need to be capped, never the athletes and entertainers. While we are at it, let's also throw in the Presidents of higher education institutions? Liberals nod their heads when Elizabeth Warren trashes Wall Street and Executive pay......all the while having earned $300,000 per year to teach ONE class. Liberals will say that the CEOs are exploiting the workers. Based on their logic, I would argue that the entertainers, athletes, and BigEd teachers' are exploiting peoples' hard-earned dollars.

CEOs shouldn't be a rigged game. They shouldn't be on the boards giving themselves raises. Athletes and entertainers aren't giving themselves raises, CEOs are choosing to pay them that much. I don't understand why you guys don't get that. The rich team owner wants to win so he pays to get the best players. The player isn't deciding how much he should be paid.

 

[mudwhistle]

My bro got a masters from msu. Could of he fortune 500 makes 1.5 million a year. Yes sure he's worth that much.

But since you're ok with it I'd take it too if I were him.

He came from nothing. Very rare he would ever become CEO.

in english

what do you not understand? ask questions.

The left wants the middle class to be paid more. The rich can afford it and the solution to poverty is a big middle class. No excuse if it's easy to get out of poverty. The wealth gap is a problem. Government could solve this if free market capitalism wont

The right think that's unfair. They shouldn't have to pay more even if their greed is ruining our economy.

So the right can't claim to care about the middle class. If it disappears tough.

The Middle-Class makes more than $15 hr.

That's not a lot

No kidding.....

Yet you support a party that wants to bring in millions of 'refugees' to make $15 an average wage.

When I lived in CA it was difficult to find a decent paying job because of all of the illegals that Democrats let in. They could pay them half of what I was making. I remember being paid $4 hr and the illegal in the paint booth was only making $1.50 hr. I couldn't live off of $4 dollars an hour because it was just me and my wife. The illegals lived in a single family home with 20 other people who were all making less than $3 hr. This is what CA likes. They don't like families. They like workhouses.

 

[danielpalos]

unions abused the system. if you can't acknowledged that then you are far from understanding what happened. I'll tell you what, right now Chicago public school union is trying to destroy the state.

I think they needed changes, but they are still needed. Without middle class workers have little power or political voice.

I have no issue with unions as long as someone who doesn't want to belong isn't forced to pay dues. It ain't right.

Also shouldn't reap the benefits without joining. But we need clear benefits to inspire joining.

how about a "re-purposing" of unions. Unions having recourse to "well regulated and well Organized labor" should be able to "out compete" unorganized labor.

or not. I challenge any union guy against an individual laborer. I bet the single laborer far exceeds the union guy. I'm just saying, there is no union job that promotes excellence. where a individual laborer has only his talent to sell.

on average, that may not be the case. unorganized labor includes, day labor.

 

[danielpalos]

A, green jobs are where it's at. B, Hillary couldn't do it on her own. The middle class has been fucking itself since 2010. And fucked themselves in 2000 and 2004 too. A democratic president can't do it alone. So I'm glad Republicans own it all now. Prove your way works and creates a strong happy middle class

We will certainly see now. I definitely don't want to hear more excuses since they control everything.

I'm glad the GOP can't get done what it wants to get done.

Yeah....stuff like keeping you safe.......thank God Democrats are here to make sure you aren't.

All the right wing knows how to do, is cut taxes for the rich and cut benefits for the poor.

They don't know how to win wars on crime, drugs, or terror.

*

at least I have one; too much, "hard work" for You, to come up with one?

 

[danielpalos]

I'm glad the GOP can't get done what it wants to get done.

Yeah....stuff like keeping you safe.......thank God Democrats are here to make sure you aren't.

All the right wing knows how to do, is cut taxes for the rich and cut benefits for the poor.

They don't know how to win wars on crime, drugs, or terror.

what about the middle class, or don't you give a shit about them?

A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage and health care for the poor, lifts many boats, including middle class boats.

no, it destroys an economy. But why would you know that? The government has no business setting salaries. The market does. Let the market move the money. for fk sake,

No, it doesn't. That is just, your opinion, man.