The left's rejection of science

[Slade3200]

Anybody can be racist. The MTV spot was trying to make the point that since whites hold the majority of wealth and power in our country and blacks are fresh off of centuries of oppression the social impact of racism between the two races are very different. I don't agree with everything they are saying but I understand the point they are trying to make. Did you not get that?

Do they not get that 'wealth and power' or not equally distributed among 'white people', and the 'left' and their brie and chardonny set 'leadership' avidly demonize entirely the wrong 'white' demographic', and are completely happy with tat?

Want to try again at making in intelligent argument? I hope you can do better than that.

 

[Correll]

Tell me, what does the left wing think about dictionary definition of words like "racism" and "sexism"?

Both look fine to me. Why?

rac·ism
ˈrāˌsizəm/
noun

1. prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
   "a program to combat racism"
   synonyms: racial discrimination, racialism, racial prejudice, xenophobia, chauvinism, bigotry, casteism
   "Aborigines are the main victims of racism in Australia"
   • the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.

sex·ism
ˈsekˌsizəm/
noun

1. prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination, typically against women, on the basis of sex.

Prejudice plus power - RationalWiki
(a left wing site has to police the left because it is literally insane with hatred against white people)

Anybody can be racist. The MTV spot was trying to make the point that since whites hold the majority of wealth and power in our country and blacks are fresh off of centuries of oppression the social impact of racism between the two races are very different. I don't agree with everything they are saying but I understand the point they are trying to make. Did you not get that?

No moron.

The MTV spot was literally saying that black people can't be racist to white people.



Racism is entirely about morality. Your supposed social standing is literally irrelevant.

I don't get what your argument with me is. I agree that anybody can be racist. If people say otherwise then I don't agree with them. However, as I explained, there is a point to be made about the difference between black and white racism in America society that is a result of our history.

Do you support the 230 sat point bonus blacks get for being black in Ivy League College admissions.

 

[Slade3200]

You know that Fascism is Right wing don't you?

You know that's a left-wing lie that you've been duped into believing. Fascism is totalitarianism. Totalitarianism is exclusively left-wing, nitwit. The further right you go, government gets smaller and less powerful until it ceases to exist at all - or anarchy. The further left you go, government gets larger and more powerful until they have complete and total control - or totalitarianism (fascism, communism, etc.).

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Im curious, should the baker be aloud to reject a black couple from their services if they want to? women? Jews? Where does the line get drawn in your opinion?

A baker is a private citizen on private property. They have a constitutional right to refuse service to anyone for any reason. Claiming that they should be forced to enter into business transactions is the epitome of fascism your ignorant, uneducated ass is attempting to deny right now (the irony).

You want to go back to pre 60's and erase civil rights I see. That would be a fascist movement per your definition. Back of the bus for ya P@triot. You aren't getting out of this hole.

It is your side that is trying to suppress other's Free Speech.

My side? Ok buddy. I don't agree with any of the riots or violent demonstrations involved with shutting down speech on college campuses. They should all be ashamed of themselves.

 

[Correll]

You know that Fascism is Right wing don't you?

You know that's a left-wing lie that you've been duped into believing. Fascism is totalitarianism. Totalitarianism is exclusively left-wing, nitwit. The further right you go, government gets smaller and less powerful until it ceases to exist at all - or anarchy. The further left you go, government gets larger and more powerful until they have complete and total control - or totalitarianism (fascism, communism, etc.).

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Im curious, should the baker be aloud to reject a black couple from their services if they want to? women? Jews? Where does the line get drawn in your opinion?

A baker is a private citizen on private property. They have a constitutional right to refuse service to anyone for any reason. Claiming that they should be forced to enter into business transactions is the epitome of fascism your ignorant, uneducated ass is attempting to deny right now (the irony).

You want to go back to pre 60's and erase civil rights I see. That would be a fascist movement per your definition. Back of the bus for ya P@triot. You aren't getting out of this hole.

It is your side that is trying to suppress other's Free Speech.

My side? Ok buddy. I don't agree with any of the riots or violent demonstrations involved with shutting down speech on college campuses. They should all be ashamed of themselves.

Good for you.

Would you call them "fascists", Marxist, or something else?

 

[Slade3200]

Both look fine to me. Why?

rac·ism
ˈrāˌsizəm/
noun

1. prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
   "a program to combat racism"
   synonyms: racial discrimination, racialism, racial prejudice, xenophobia, chauvinism, bigotry, casteism
   "Aborigines are the main victims of racism in Australia"
   • the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.

sex·ism
ˈsekˌsizəm/
noun

1. prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination, typically against women, on the basis of sex.

Prejudice plus power - RationalWiki
(a left wing site has to police the left because it is literally insane with hatred against white people)

Anybody can be racist. The MTV spot was trying to make the point that since whites hold the majority of wealth and power in our country and blacks are fresh off of centuries of oppression the social impact of racism between the two races are very different. I don't agree with everything they are saying but I understand the point they are trying to make. Did you not get that?

No moron.

The MTV spot was literally saying that black people can't be racist to white people.



Racism is entirely about morality. Your supposed social standing is literally irrelevant.

I don't get what your argument with me is. I agree that anybody can be racist. If people say otherwise then I don't agree with them. However, as I explained, there is a point to be made about the difference between black and white racism in America society that is a result of our history.

Do you support the 230 sat point bonus blacks get for being black in Ivy League College admissions.

I don't know much about it but on the surface it doesn't seem like something i'd support. i'm fine with scholarships for the black community and programs that help get minorities better education and into better schools. Diversity is important and education is the best way to help any group ascend out of poverty, but giving a SAT bump doesn't make sense to me. I haven't read much on the issue though.

 

[Slade3200]

You know that Fascism is Right wing don't you?

You know that's a left-wing lie that you've been duped into believing. Fascism is totalitarianism. Totalitarianism is exclusively left-wing, nitwit. The further right you go, government gets smaller and less powerful until it ceases to exist at all - or anarchy. The further left you go, government gets larger and more powerful until they have complete and total control - or totalitarianism (fascism, communism, etc.).

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Im curious, should the baker be aloud to reject a black couple from their services if they want to? women? Jews? Where does the line get drawn in your opinion?

A baker is a private citizen on private property. They have a constitutional right to refuse service to anyone for any reason. Claiming that they should be forced to enter into business transactions is the epitome of fascism your ignorant, uneducated ass is attempting to deny right now (the irony).

You want to go back to pre 60's and erase civil rights I see. That would be a fascist movement per your definition. Back of the bus for ya P@triot. You aren't getting out of this hole.

It is your side that is trying to suppress other's Free Speech.

My side? Ok buddy. I don't agree with any of the riots or violent demonstrations involved with shutting down speech on college campuses. They should all be ashamed of themselves.

Good for you.

Would you call them "fascists", Marxist, or something else?

I would call them spoiled, entitled and closed minded. Protest i'm fine with. Violence and shutting down free speech i am not. We need more positive engagement with our political opponents not more obstruction and division.

 

[Correll]

Prejudice plus power - RationalWiki
(a left wing site has to police the left because it is literally insane with hatred against white people)

Anybody can be racist. The MTV spot was trying to make the point that since whites hold the majority of wealth and power in our country and blacks are fresh off of centuries of oppression the social impact of racism between the two races are very different. I don't agree with everything they are saying but I understand the point they are trying to make. Did you not get that?

No moron.

The MTV spot was literally saying that black people can't be racist to white people.



Racism is entirely about morality. Your supposed social standing is literally irrelevant.

I don't get what your argument with me is. I agree that anybody can be racist. If people say otherwise then I don't agree with them. However, as I explained, there is a point to be made about the difference between black and white racism in America society that is a result of our history.

Do you support the 230 sat point bonus blacks get for being black in Ivy League College admissions.

I don't know much about it but on the surface it doesn't seem like something i'd support. i'm fine with scholarships for the black community and programs that help get minorities better education and into better schools. Diversity is important and education is the best way to help any group ascend out of poverty, but giving a SAT bump doesn't make sense to me. I haven't read much on the issue though.

If you support the idea that "diversity" is important, and that programs to help minorities bet better education an into better schools, then you support the 230 point bump.

Because that's how they get the bump.


YOu can't discriminate in favor of one group, without discriminating against others.

 

[Picaro]

lol ... the average NY native makes the average aboriginal New Guinea tribesman look like sophisticated international diplomats and intellectuals. The average Appalachian redneck has more experience with the real America than they do, too. NYC is still having race riots over Jews With Ambulances and similar such 'enlightened and sophisticated world viewpoints'. Hilarious stuff.

Hilariously enough, I have never actually been to the Appalachian part of Kentucky.

I am very much in favor of urban and suburban living.

No problem, since you won't find it much different, just fewer stores, bigger house lots, and less zoning. And everybody pretty much knows their neighbors, mostly positive differences.

 

[ptbw forever]

lol ... the average NY native makes the average aboriginal New Guinea tribesman look like sophisticated international diplomats and intellectuals. The average Appalachian redneck has more experience with the real America than they do, too. NYC is still having race riots over Jews With Ambulances and similar such 'enlightened and sophisticated world viewpoints'. Hilarious stuff.

Hilariously enough, I have never actually been to the Appalachian part of Kentucky.

I am very much in favor of urban and suburban living.

No problem, since you won't find it much different, just fewer stores, bigger house lots, and less zoning. And everybody pretty much knows their neighbors, mostly positive differences.

Suburban Louisville is still very neighborly.

 

[Slade3200]

Anybody can be racist. The MTV spot was trying to make the point that since whites hold the majority of wealth and power in our country and blacks are fresh off of centuries of oppression the social impact of racism between the two races are very different. I don't agree with everything they are saying but I understand the point they are trying to make. Did you not get that?

No moron.

The MTV spot was literally saying that black people can't be racist to white people.



Racism is entirely about morality. Your supposed social standing is literally irrelevant.

I don't get what your argument with me is. I agree that anybody can be racist. If people say otherwise then I don't agree with them. However, as I explained, there is a point to be made about the difference between black and white racism in America society that is a result of our history.

Do you support the 230 sat point bonus blacks get for being black in Ivy League College admissions.

I don't know much about it but on the surface it doesn't seem like something i'd support. i'm fine with scholarships for the black community and programs that help get minorities better education and into better schools. Diversity is important and education is the best way to help any group ascend out of poverty, but giving a SAT bump doesn't make sense to me. I haven't read much on the issue though.

If you support the idea that "diversity" is important, and that programs to help minorities bet better education an into better schools, then you support the 230 point bump.

Because that's how they get the bump.


YOu can't discriminate in favor of one group, without discriminating against others.

haha, nice try. I can support efforts to help minority groups and also disapprove of methods. For instance I support providing government assistance to our elderly, disabled, vets, and our poor, but I think there is tremendous waste in our welfare programs and a need for reform. Just because I support these efforts doesn't mean I support the current methods. So while I do support helping minority groups get better education, I can disagree with the method of simply bumping their SAT scores because they are a minority. I don't see the effectiveness in doing that, it actually seems counter productive IMO.

 

[P@triot]

Gay couples are ordering the exact same cakes as straight couples.

Uh...no they are not. A gay couples cake has the name of two men on it or the name of two women on it. It also lacks the bride and groom on top - instead having a bride and bride or groom and groom.

You've never answered my question though Sea...why do you hate liberty? Why not just leave people alone to live their lives as they see fit?

 

[P@triot]

If it doesn't fit his narrative then it must be leftist propaganda lies. Even the link he provided had information that countered his argument. He should be running for the hills by now. See ya P@atriot, you're done

I don't blame you for wanting me to leave - considering I've kicked your dumb ass up and down this thread.

Definition of FASCISM

 

[P@triot]

Get some booklets on ideologies, most college book stores have them. If necessary I can give you the names of seven or eight, or as some do, take a college course on the subject.
Google can be used to make sure you're on the right track.

Why regent - are you incapable of explaining to us how totalitarianism is to the right of libertarianism and Sovereign Citizens?

Yeah...I don't blame you. Nobody could explain something that stupid and that insane. I would direct people somewhere else too.

 

[ScienceRocks]

So you say the left is anti-science but then support policies that end up cutting lab science and funding for research.

You can't be pro-science and support cutting 30-50% of all science funding.

 

[P@triot]

I've shut down your pathetic arguments all day. So if im not very bright by your standards I can't imagine what that makes you.

This coming from the person who just said:

When did we talk about private citizens on private property? You are just making shit up now. We were talking about a baker who owns a bakery that services the general public. Stop lying.

The only thing you've "shut down" is rational thought in your brain.

 

[P@triot]

So you say the left is anti-science but then support policies that end up cutting lab science and funding for research.

You can't be pro-science and support cutting 30-50% of all science funding.

Sure you can. Government isn't legally authorized to fund science. But anyone else is. Including you. So instead of whining - start funding.

 

[P@triot]

I don't get what your argument with me is.

I would submit to you that it is your insanely stupid comments such as "fascism is to the right of libertarianism" and "bakers are not private citizens on private property". But that's just speculation on my part.

 

[mamooth]

You've never answered my question though Sea...why do you hate liberty? Why not just leave people alone to live their lives as they see fit?

Because what you've redefined as "liberty" is what most people call "being a racist and bigoted shitstain".

Nobody likes racist shitstains who say it should be legal to not serve blacks and gays. The racist shitstains don't make those arguments in public. They only make them in their internet SafeSpaces, because they know that if they made them in the real world, they'd probably have their candy asses beaten down, even by grandmothers and toddlers.

 

[mamooth]

I would submit to you that it is your insanely stupid comments such as "fascism is to the right of libertarianism" and "bakers are not private citizens on private property". But that's just speculation on my part.

Fascism is to the right of everything, dumbass. Once you tried denying that, everyone twirled a finger around their ear. Only the most desperate and pathetic losers attempt historical revisionism on the scale you're showing us.

Now, as I pointed out before, libertarianism, at least in theory, is to the left of conservatism, being more liberty generally means more to the left. However, in practice, those who call themselves libertarians tend to be even more rabidly anti-liberty than common conservatives, so that puts them further to the right.

Anyways, can we close this thread? I think the point is proven, which is that you personally are anti-science, anti-history, anti-liberty and anti-common sense. That's not a description of all conservatives, just of you.

 

[Slade3200]

If it doesn't fit his narrative then it must be leftist propaganda lies. Even the link he provided had information that countered his argument. He should be running for the hills by now. See ya P@atriot, you're done

I don't blame you for wanting me to leave - considering I've kicked your dumb ass up and down this thread.

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Definition of FASCISM

Oh, you must have missed my response #380 three pages back when I showed how YOUR OWN link disproved your point. What a dumbass! Here i'll repost for you...


While you do your dance scroll down to the bottom of the page YOU linked to and click on the link to the encyclopedia definition that goes into more detail about what fascism is... Here are a few blurbs from that section:

"...fascist parties tended to have younger members than most other rightist parties."

"During the Great Depression, thousands of middle-class conservatives fearful of the growing power of the left abandoned traditional right-wing parties and adopted fascism."

"scholars of fascism themselves bring to their studies different political and cultural attitudes, which often have a bearing on the importance they assign to one or another aspect of fascist ideology or practice. Secular liberals, for example, have stressed fascism’s religious roots; Roman Catholic and Protestant scholars have emphasized its secular origins; social conservatives have pointed to its “socialist” and “populist” aspects; and social radicals have noted its defense of “capitalism” and “elitism.”

"Fascists made no secret of their hatred of Marxists of all stripes, from totalitarian communists to democratic socialists. Fascists promised to deal more “firmly” with Marxists than had earlier, more democratic rightist parties."

I could go all day... Got another source you want to try?