The liberal march towards EXTREME fascism

[dudmuck]

Was Hitler a fascist?

Yes he was. And he was LEFT-WING as it gets.

Nazi = National SOCIALISTS

How did Hitler hate communism so much, but he also loved socialism?

 

[peach174]

Fascism is extreme.
It means putting the state at the center of a military dictatorship.

and that sounds conservative, to me

Conservatives are for smaller government and congress who are limited by the amendments of no laws passed against them.

 

[P@triot]

How did Hitler hate communism so much, but he also loved socialism?

He didn't hate communism. At all. Stop believing the propaganda. He didn't invade Russia because of their communism, any more than he invaded France because of their capitalism.

 

[dudmuck]

How did Hitler hate communism so much, but he also loved socialism?

He didn't hate communism. At all. Stop believing the propaganda. He didn't invade Russia because of their communism, any more than he invaded France because of their capitalism.

Hitler's wikipedia page says he's anti-communist.

Nazis had arrested some 4,000 members of germany's communist party (KPD) after the reishtag fire.

 

[P@triot]

Hitler's wikipedia page says he's anti-communist.

That's because "Hitler's wikipedia page" is written by leftists who have bene trying to rewrite history for many decades now.

Nazis had arrested some 4,000 members of germany's communist party (KPD) after the reishtag fire.

Yeah - because they were another party of dictatorial power which was a threat to his dictatorial power. Claiming Hitler wasn't left-wing because he arrested Germany's Communist Party is like saying that Joe Biden isn't a Democrat because he is running against Elizabeth Warren.

They share the same ideology. They just want the same power and only one can have it. Same with Hitler and the German communist party.

 

[dudmuck]

Hitler's wikipedia page says he's anti-communist.

That's because "Hitler's wikipedia page" is written by leftists who have bene trying to rewrite history for many decades now.

Nazis had arrested some 4,000 members of germany's communist party (KPD) after the reishtag fire.

Yeah - because they were another party of dictatorial power which was a threat to his dictatorial power. Claiming Hitler wasn't left-wing because he arrested Germany's Communist Party is like saying that Joe Biden isn't a Democrat because he is running against Elizabeth Warren.

They share the same ideology. They just want the same power and only one can have it. Same with Hitler and the German communist party.

If Hitler was good with communism, the KPD would have been integrated into the nazi party. Instead they were thrown into concentration camps, such as Dachau.

Wikipedia is peer reviewed, and provides references for every claim, or you see "citation needed"

In mein kampf, Hitler wrote:
In the years 1913 and 1914 I expressed my opinion for the first time in various circles, some of which are now members of the National Socialist Movement, that the problem of how the future of the German nation can be secured is the problem of how Marxism can be exterminated.

Later in his seminal tome, Hitler advocated for "the destruction of Marxism in all its shapes and forms".[109] According to Hitler, Marxism was a Jewish strategy to subjugate Germany and the world and saw Marxism as a mental and political form of slavery.[110] From Hitler's vantage point, Bolsheviks existed to serve "Jewish international finance".[111] When the British tried negotiating with Hitler in 1935 by including Germany in the extension of the Locarno Pact, he rejected their offer and instead assured them that German rearmament was important in safeguarding Europe against communism,[112] a move which clearly showed his anti-communist proclivities.[A 12]

Can you see there? reference after reference.

 

[P@triot]

If Hitler was good with communism, the KPD would have been integrated into the nazi party. Instead they were thrown into concentration camps, such as Dachau.

Yes...because they were a threat to his power. It’s the same reason Saddam Hussein had certain members of the Ba’ath Party executed in 1979 when he took over - despite the fact that he was a member of that party! What part of this are you not getting?

 

[K9Buck]

If Hitler was good with communism, the KPD would have been integrated into the nazi party. Instead they were thrown into concentration camps, such as Dachau.

Yes...because they were a threat to his power. It’s the same reason Saddam Hussein had certain members of the Ba’ath Party executed in 1979 when he took over - despite the fact that he was a member of that party! What part of this are you not getting?

Correct.

It's my understanding that many German communists joined the Nazis once it became clear that they were the prevailing power.

Hitler opposed the communists because their loyalty was to Joseph Stalin and NOT to Germany. Hitler and the Nazis were very nationalistic wherein the German communists were not.

Fascism and communism both entail the rejection of free-market capitalism and government management over every facet of industry and society.

 

[P@triot]

In mein kampf, Hitler wrote:
In the years 1913 and 1914 I expressed my opinion for the first time in various circles, some of which are now members of the National Socialist Movement, that the problem of how the future of the German nation can be secured is the problem of how Marxism can be exterminated.

Wait...Adolf Hitler publicly rejected the economic philosophy of a Jew? Well color me shocked!

 

[dudmuck]

If Hitler was good with communism, the KPD would have been integrated into the nazi party. Instead they were thrown into concentration camps, such as Dachau.

Yes...because they were a threat to his power. It’s the same reason Saddam Hussein had certain members of the Ba’ath Party executed in 1979 when he took over - despite the fact that he was a member of that party! What part of this are you not getting?

If Hitler liked communism, he would have given the KPD the option of joining the nazi party, or be thrown into the camps. The nazis didnt give them that option, the communists (and socialists) were thrown straight into the concentration camps.

Who is saying Hitler wasnt anti-communist?

 

[Pogo]

If Hitler was good with communism, the KPD would have been integrated into the nazi party. Instead they were thrown into concentration camps, such as Dachau.

Yes...because they were a threat to his power. It’s the same reason Saddam Hussein had certain members of the Ba’ath Party executed in 1979 when he took over - despite the fact that he was a member of that party! What part of this are you not getting?

Me, I'm not getting the part where you think you can dig yourself out of these self-dug holes by posting absurd counterhistorical bullshit.

Hitler was a virulent anti-communist. Everybody knew that. Fascism and communism were and are mortal enemies. In fact Hitler's anti-communism was a major reason he had support in this country before his war gathered momentum (and for some, even after).

Dudmuck is correct, the communists and socialists were the first "guests" to enjoy the luxurious amenities of Dachau.

 

[Pogo]

How did Hitler hate communism so much, but he also loved socialism?

He didn't hate communism. At all. Stop believing the propaganda. He didn't invade Russia because of their communism, any more than he invaded France because of their capitalism.

You've never cracked an actual history book in your life, have you Buttsoiler?

 

[K9Buck]

If Hitler was good with communism, the KPD would have been integrated into the nazi party. Instead they were thrown into concentration camps, such as Dachau.

Yes...because they were a threat to his power. It’s the same reason Saddam Hussein had certain members of the Ba’ath Party executed in 1979 when he took over - despite the fact that he was a member of that party! What part of this are you not getting?

If Hitler liked communism, he would have given the KPD the option of joining the nazi party, or be thrown into the camps. The nazis didnt give them that option, the communists (and socialists) were thrown straight into the concentration camps.

Who is saying Hitler wasnt anti-communist?

Communists and fascists both oppose free-market capitalism, just like you.

 

[dudmuck]

If Hitler was good with communism, the KPD would have been integrated into the nazi party. Instead they were thrown into concentration camps, such as Dachau.

Yes...because they were a threat to his power. It’s the same reason Saddam Hussein had certain members of the Ba’ath Party executed in 1979 when he took over - despite the fact that he was a member of that party! What part of this are you not getting?

If Hitler liked communism, he would have given the KPD the option of joining the nazi party, or be thrown into the camps. The nazis didnt give them that option, the communists (and socialists) were thrown straight into the concentration camps.

Who is saying Hitler wasnt anti-communist?

Communists and fascists both oppose free-market capitalism, just like you.

really?

after the Nazis took power, industries were privatized en masse. Several banks, shipyards, railway lines, shipping lines, welfare organizations, and more were privatized.[40]

State ownership was only desired if necessary for war effort.

Mein Kampf was written prior to formation of the Nazi party. The book represents Hitler's actual beliefs.

from Mein Kampf:
"In the years 1913 and 1914 I expressed my opinion for the first time in various circles, some of which are now members of the National Socialist Movement, that the problem of how the future of the German nation can be secured is the problem of how Marxism can be exterminated."

 

[CrusaderFrank]

If Hitler was good with communism, the KPD would have been integrated into the nazi party. Instead they were thrown into concentration camps, such as Dachau.

Yes...because they were a threat to his power. It’s the same reason Saddam Hussein had certain members of the Ba’ath Party executed in 1979 when he took over - despite the fact that he was a member of that party! What part of this are you not getting?

Me, I'm not getting the part where you think you can dig yourself out of these self-dug holes by posting absurd counterhistorical bullshit.

Hitler was a virulent anti-communist. Everybody knew that. Fascism and communism were and are mortal enemies. In fact Hitler's anti-communism was a major reason he had support in this country before his war gathered momentum (and for some, even after).

Dudmuck is correct, the communists and socialists were the first "guests" to enjoy the luxurious amenities of Dachau.

Fascism and Communism are just two ways of saying "Progressive"

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Hitler's wikipedia page says he's anti-communist.

That's because "Hitler's wikipedia page" is written by leftists who have bene trying to rewrite history for many decades now.

Nazis had arrested some 4,000 members of germany's communist party (KPD) after the reishtag fire.

Yeah - because they were another party of dictatorial power which was a threat to his dictatorial power. Claiming Hitler wasn't left-wing because he arrested Germany's Communist Party is like saying that Joe Biden isn't a Democrat because he is running against Elizabeth Warren.

They share the same ideology. They just want the same power and only one can have it. Same with Hitler and the German communist party.

"Claiming Hitler wasn't left-wing because he arrested Germany's Communist Party is like saying that Joe Biden isn't a Democrat because he is running against Elizabeth Warren"

Maybe the best sentence ever to explain the madness!

 

[K9Buck]

If Hitler was good with communism, the KPD would have been integrated into the nazi party. Instead they were thrown into concentration camps, such as Dachau.

Yes...because they were a threat to his power. It’s the same reason Saddam Hussein had certain members of the Ba’ath Party executed in 1979 when he took over - despite the fact that he was a member of that party! What part of this are you not getting?

If Hitler liked communism, he would have given the KPD the option of joining the nazi party, or be thrown into the camps. The nazis didnt give them that option, the communists (and socialists) were thrown straight into the concentration camps.

Who is saying Hitler wasnt anti-communist?

Communists and fascists both oppose free-market capitalism, just like you.

really?

after the Nazis took power, industries were privatized en masse. Several banks, shipyards, railway lines, shipping lines, welfare organizations, and more were privatized.[40]

State ownership was only desired if necessary for war effort.

Mein Kampf was written prior to formation of the Nazi party. The book represents Hitler's actual beliefs.

from Mein Kampf:
"In the years 1913 and 1914 I expressed my opinion for the first time in various circles, some of which are now members of the National Socialist Movement, that the problem of how the future of the German nation can be secured is the problem of how Marxism can be exterminated."

Nazi Germany, fascist Italy, Franco's Spain and modern China are all examples of fascist states and none them had/have a free-market economy.

 

[K9Buck]

dudmuck

Permitting private ownership of business is not the defining characteristic of a free-market economy. As Hitler said, why nationalize industry when you can simply nationalize the people instead?

 

[Pogo]

If Hitler was good with communism, the KPD would have been integrated into the nazi party. Instead they were thrown into concentration camps, such as Dachau.

Yes...because they were a threat to his power. It’s the same reason Saddam Hussein had certain members of the Ba’ath Party executed in 1979 when he took over - despite the fact that he was a member of that party! What part of this are you not getting?

Me, I'm not getting the part where you think you can dig yourself out of these self-dug holes by posting absurd counterhistorical bullshit.

Hitler was a virulent anti-communist. Everybody knew that. Fascism and communism were and are mortal enemies. In fact Hitler's anti-communism was a major reason he had support in this country before his war gathered momentum (and for some, even after).

Dudmuck is correct, the communists and socialists were the first "guests" to enjoy the luxurious amenities of Dachau.

Fascism and Communism are just two ways of saying "Progressive"

For those with a fatal allergy to history books maybe. For the rest of us the Progressive Era had already come and gone before both of them.

History is SO inconvenient.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

If Hitler was good with communism, the KPD would have been integrated into the nazi party. Instead they were thrown into concentration camps, such as Dachau.

Yes...because they were a threat to his power. It’s the same reason Saddam Hussein had certain members of the Ba’ath Party executed in 1979 when he took over - despite the fact that he was a member of that party! What part of this are you not getting?

Me, I'm not getting the part where you think you can dig yourself out of these self-dug holes by posting absurd counterhistorical bullshit.

Hitler was a virulent anti-communist. Everybody knew that. Fascism and communism were and are mortal enemies. In fact Hitler's anti-communism was a major reason he had support in this country before his war gathered momentum (and for some, even after).

Dudmuck is correct, the communists and socialists were the first "guests" to enjoy the luxurious amenities of Dachau.

Fascism and Communism are just two ways of saying "Progressive"

For those with a fatal allergy to history books maybe. For the rest of us the Progressive Era had already come and gone before both of them.

History is SO inconvenient.

Tell us again how Fascism is "right wing" because it promotes freedom and individual liberty