The main reason why this country is toast

Wolfstrike

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according to Robert Reich (Berkeley) 70% of the US economy is driven by consumer spending.

destroying the country was a no-brainer for the Socialists.
now that they have been successful in moving most manufacturing jobs to brutal slave-labor Communist countries, 70% of our economy is just people buying junk.
companies, like SEARS, have been commanded to stop paying employees and providing careers.
(people I've talked to, including myself, have been hired for 2 years. SEARS in my area dropped their starting wage, again, from $17 to $15)

how is our 70% spending economy going to last, when a lot fewer people have careers?

our economy is like building a house of cards while removing ones from the bottom.
maybe some guy with a college degree and a suit can tell you why removing cards is actually good for you.
 
Maybe it is because Sears is a completely disfuctional company which has been managed by incompetants, staffed by employees who don't give a rat's ass about the customers, which sells crappy products, and rates somewhere below wireless telephone companies in customer satisfaction.

The truth is that Sears desperately needs someone who is brave enough to perform a mercy killing. Personally, I stopped shopping there decades ago, but my friends still report to me that they can not perform the simplists tasks without screwing up. Thier complaint department is actually a waste basket.
 
Solution- tax the rich their fair share so they don't triple their wealth while the rest and the country go to hell, like the last 30 years. Vote DEM, HATER DUPES...
 
Maybe it is because Sears is a completely disfuctional company which has been managed by incompetants, staffed by employees who don't give a rat's ass about the customers, which sells crappy products, and rates somewhere below wireless telephone companies in customer satisfaction.

The truth is that Sears desperately needs someone who is brave enough to perform a mercy killing. Personally, I stopped shopping there decades ago, but my friends still report to me that they can not perform the simplists tasks without screwing up. Thier complaint department is actually a waste basket.

Solution- tax the rich their fair share so they don't triple their wealth while the rest and the country go to hell, like the last 30 years. Vote DEM, HATER DUPES...

Holy f*ck you two morons missed the entire point. How much stupid do you two actually have between you? It's a f*ckton I'm sure.
 
according to Robert Reich (Berkeley) 70% of the US economy is driven by consumer spending.

destroying the country was a no-brainer for the Socialists.
now that they have been successful in moving most manufacturing jobs to brutal slave-labor Communist countries, 70% of our economy is just people buying junk.
companies, like SEARS, have been commanded to stop paying employees and providing careers.
(people I've talked to, including myself, have been hired for 2 years. SEARS in my area dropped their starting wage, again, from $17 to $15)

how is our 70% spending economy going to last, when a lot fewer people have careers?

our economy is like building a house of cards while removing ones from the bottom.
maybe some guy with a college degree and a suit can tell you why removing cards is actually good for you.

U.C. Berkeley, isn't that where the students sit in the trees and throw shit at everyone...:eek:
 
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Solution- tax the rich their fair share so they don't triple their wealth while the rest and the country go to hell, like the last 30 years. Vote DEM, HATER DUPES...


Yes, if anyone is successful and makes a little money (let's call them 'the rich') take it away from them and give it to the idle and the feckless. THAT'S the way to build a great economy!
 
according to Robert Reich (Berkeley) 70% of the US economy is driven by consumer spending.

destroying the country was a no-brainer for the Socialists.
now that they have been successful in moving most manufacturing jobs to brutal slave-labor Communist countries, 70% of our economy is just people buying junk.
companies, like SEARS, have been commanded to stop paying employees and providing careers.
(people I've talked to, including myself, have been hired for 2 years. SEARS in my area dropped their starting wage, again, from $17 to $15)

how is our 70% spending economy going to last, when a lot fewer people have careers?

our economy is like building a house of cards while removing ones from the bottom.
maybe some guy with a college degree and a suit can tell you why removing cards is actually good for you.

First you get pissy because Republican CEOs move their company production offshore to other countries so they can make more billions from cheaper labor and then you get pissy because your SEARS has dropped their starting wage from $17 to $15.

Forget college degree... do you even have a high school degree?
 
according to Robert Reich (Berkeley) 70% of the US economy is driven by consumer spending.

destroying the country was a no-brainer for the Socialists.
now that they have been successful in moving most manufacturing jobs to brutal slave-labor Communist countries, 70% of our economy is just people buying junk.
companies, like SEARS, have been commanded to stop paying employees and providing careers.
(people I've talked to, including myself, have been hired for 2 years. SEARS in my area dropped their starting wage, again, from $17 to $15)

how is our 70% spending economy going to last, when a lot fewer people have careers?

our economy is like building a house of cards while removing ones from the bottom.
maybe some guy with a college degree and a suit can tell you why removing cards is actually good for you.

First you get pissy because Republican CEOs move their company production offshore to other countries so they can make more billions from cheaper labor and then you get pissy because your SEARS has dropped their starting wage from $17 to $15.

Forget college degree... do you even have a high school degree?



History In the developed world, moving jobs out of the country dates to at least the 1960s[24] and has continued since then. It was characterized primarily by the transferring of factories from the developed to the developing world. This offshoring and closing of factories has caused a structural change in the developed world from an industrial to a post-industrial service society.

During the 20th century, the decreasing costs of transportation and communication crossed with great disparities on pay rates made increased offshoring from wealthier countries to less wealthy countries financially feasible for many companies. Further, the growth of the Internet, particularly fiber-optic intercontinental long haul capacity, and the World Wide Web reduced "transportation" costs for many kinds of information work to near zero.[25]

With the development of the Internet, many new categories of work such as call centres, computer programming, reading medical data such as X-rays and magnetic resonance imaging, medical transcription, income tax preparation, and title searching are being offshored.

Before the 1990s, Ireland was one of the poorest countries in the EU. Because of Ireland's relatively low corporate tax rates, US companies began offshoring of software, electronic, and pharmaceutical intellectual property to Ireland for export. This helped create a high-tech "boom" and which led to Ireland becoming one of the richest EU countries.[25]


In 1994 the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) went into effect. As concerns are widespread about uneven bargaining powers, and risks and benefits, negotiations are often difficult, such that the plan to create free trade areas (such as Free Trade Area of the Americas) has not yet been successful. In 2005, offshoring of skilled work, also referred to as knowledge work, dramatically increased from the US, which fed the growing worries about threats of job loss.[25]

Offshoring - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
according to Robert Reich (Berkeley) 70% of the US economy is driven by consumer spending.

destroying the country was a no-brainer for the Socialists.
now that they have been successful in moving most manufacturing jobs to brutal slave-labor Communist countries, 70% of our economy is just people buying junk.
companies, like SEARS, have been commanded to stop paying employees and providing careers.
(people I've talked to, including myself, have been hired for 2 years. SEARS in my area dropped their starting wage, again, from $17 to $15)

how is our 70% spending economy going to last, when a lot fewer people have careers?

our economy is like building a house of cards while removing ones from the bottom.
maybe some guy with a college degree and a suit can tell you why removing cards is actually good for you.

First you get pissy because Republican CEOs move their company production offshore to other countries so they can make more billions from cheaper labor and then you get pissy because your SEARS has dropped their starting wage from $17 to $15.

Forget college degree... do you even have a high school degree?



History In the developed world, moving jobs out of the country dates to at least the 1960s[24] and has continued since then. It was characterized primarily by the transferring of factories from the developed to the developing world. This offshoring and closing of factories has caused a structural change in the developed world from an industrial to a post-industrial service society.

During the 20th century, the decreasing costs of transportation and communication crossed with great disparities on pay rates made increased offshoring from wealthier countries to less wealthy countries financially feasible for many companies. Further, the growth of the Internet, particularly fiber-optic intercontinental long haul capacity, and the World Wide Web reduced "transportation" costs for many kinds of information work to near zero.[25]

With the development of the Internet, many new categories of work such as call centres, computer programming, reading medical data such as X-rays and magnetic resonance imaging, medical transcription, income tax preparation, and title searching are being offshored.

Before the 1990s, Ireland was one of the poorest countries in the EU. Because of Ireland's relatively low corporate tax rates, US companies began offshoring of software, electronic, and pharmaceutical intellectual property to Ireland for export. This helped create a high-tech "boom" and which led to Ireland becoming one of the richest EU countries.[25]


In 1994 the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) went into effect. As concerns are widespread about uneven bargaining powers, and risks and benefits, negotiations are often difficult, such that the plan to create free trade areas (such as Free Trade Area of the Americas) has not yet been successful. In 2005, offshoring of skilled work, also referred to as knowledge work, dramatically increased from the US, which fed the growing worries about threats of job loss.[25]

Offshoring - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So what?

What does that have to do with Wolfstrike's conundrum of companies using overseas labor to increase profits versus lowering wages in the US to retain the employment?

The only thing you've said here with your Wikipedia cut and paste is how much easier the Internet and NAFTA has made it for Republican CEOs to exploit cheap labor overseas.
 
First you get pissy because Republican CEOs move their company production offshore to other countries so they can make more billions from cheaper labor and then you get pissy because your SEARS has dropped their starting wage from $17 to $15.

Forget college degree... do you even have a high school degree?



History In the developed world, moving jobs out of the country dates to at least the 1960s[24] and has continued since then. It was characterized primarily by the transferring of factories from the developed to the developing world. This offshoring and closing of factories has caused a structural change in the developed world from an industrial to a post-industrial service society.

During the 20th century, the decreasing costs of transportation and communication crossed with great disparities on pay rates made increased offshoring from wealthier countries to less wealthy countries financially feasible for many companies. Further, the growth of the Internet, particularly fiber-optic intercontinental long haul capacity, and the World Wide Web reduced "transportation" costs for many kinds of information work to near zero.[25]

With the development of the Internet, many new categories of work such as call centres, computer programming, reading medical data such as X-rays and magnetic resonance imaging, medical transcription, income tax preparation, and title searching are being offshored.

Before the 1990s, Ireland was one of the poorest countries in the EU. Because of Ireland's relatively low corporate tax rates, US companies began offshoring of software, electronic, and pharmaceutical intellectual property to Ireland for export. This helped create a high-tech "boom" and which led to Ireland becoming one of the richest EU countries.[25]


In 1994 the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) went into effect. As concerns are widespread about uneven bargaining powers, and risks and benefits, negotiations are often difficult, such that the plan to create free trade areas (such as Free Trade Area of the Americas) has not yet been successful. In 2005, offshoring of skilled work, also referred to as knowledge work, dramatically increased from the US, which fed the growing worries about threats of job loss.[25]

Offshoring - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So what?

What does that have to do with Wolfstrike's conundrum of companies using overseas labor to increase profits versus lowering wages in the US to retain the employment?

The only thing you've said here with your Wikipedia cut and paste is how much easier the Internet and NAFTA has made it for Republican CEOs to exploit cheap labor overseas.

So what? = typical liberal response

I'M talking to a liberal stupid ass (you) and your "typical" liberal response, in short, smoking you like a cheap cigar...:lol:
 
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History In the developed world, moving jobs out of the country dates to at least the 1960s[24] and has continued since then. It was characterized primarily by the transferring of factories from the developed to the developing world. This offshoring and closing of factories has caused a structural change in the developed world from an industrial to a post-industrial service society.

During the 20th century, the decreasing costs of transportation and communication crossed with great disparities on pay rates made increased offshoring from wealthier countries to less wealthy countries financially feasible for many companies. Further, the growth of the Internet, particularly fiber-optic intercontinental long haul capacity, and the World Wide Web reduced "transportation" costs for many kinds of information work to near zero.[25]

With the development of the Internet, many new categories of work such as call centres, computer programming, reading medical data such as X-rays and magnetic resonance imaging, medical transcription, income tax preparation, and title searching are being offshored.

Before the 1990s, Ireland was one of the poorest countries in the EU. Because of Ireland's relatively low corporate tax rates, US companies began offshoring of software, electronic, and pharmaceutical intellectual property to Ireland for export. This helped create a high-tech "boom" and which led to Ireland becoming one of the richest EU countries.[25]


In 1994 the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) went into effect. As concerns are widespread about uneven bargaining powers, and risks and benefits, negotiations are often difficult, such that the plan to create free trade areas (such as Free Trade Area of the Americas) has not yet been successful. In 2005, offshoring of skilled work, also referred to as knowledge work, dramatically increased from the US, which fed the growing worries about threats of job loss.[25]

Offshoring - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So what?

What does that have to do with Wolfstrike's conundrum of companies using overseas labor to increase profits versus lowering wages in the US to retain the employment?

The only thing you've said here with your Wikipedia cut and paste is how much easier the Internet and NAFTA has made it for Republican CEOs to exploit cheap labor overseas.

So what? = typical liberal response

I'M talking to a liberal stupid ass (you) and your "typical" liberal response, in short, smoking you like a cheap cigar...:lol:

Butthurt from getting your ass handed to you once again :lol:
 
History In the developed world, moving jobs out of the country dates to at least the 1960s[24] and has continued since then. It was characterized primarily by the transferring of factories from the developed to the developing world. This offshoring and closing of factories has caused a structural change in the developed world from an industrial to a post-industrial service society.

During the 20th century, the decreasing costs of transportation and communication crossed with great disparities on pay rates made increased offshoring from wealthier countries to less wealthy countries financially feasible for many companies. Further, the growth of the Internet, particularly fiber-optic intercontinental long haul capacity, and the World Wide Web reduced "transportation" costs for many kinds of information work to near zero.[25]

With the development of the Internet, many new categories of work such as call centres, computer programming, reading medical data such as X-rays and magnetic resonance imaging, medical transcription, income tax preparation, and title searching are being offshored.

Before the 1990s, Ireland was one of the poorest countries in the EU. Because of Ireland's relatively low corporate tax rates, US companies began offshoring of software, electronic, and pharmaceutical intellectual property to Ireland for export. This helped create a high-tech "boom" and which led to Ireland becoming one of the richest EU countries.[25]


In 1994 the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) went into effect. As concerns are widespread about uneven bargaining powers, and risks and benefits, negotiations are often difficult, such that the plan to create free trade areas (such as Free Trade Area of the Americas) has not yet been successful. In 2005, offshoring of skilled work, also referred to as knowledge work, dramatically increased from the US, which fed the growing worries about threats of job loss.[25]

Offshoring - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So what?

What does that have to do with Wolfstrike's conundrum of companies using overseas labor to increase profits versus lowering wages in the US to retain the employment?

The only thing you've said here with your Wikipedia cut and paste is how much easier the Internet and NAFTA has made it for Republican CEOs to exploit cheap labor overseas.

So what? = typical liberal response

I'M talking to a liberal stupid ass (you) and your "typical" liberal response, in short, smoking you like a cheap cigar...:lol:

Deflection = typical ignorant ass response

Grow up dingbat and explain why your cut and paste is relevant to Wolfstrike's dilemma of the use of offshore labor versus lowering pay rates to retain labor.
 
Solution- tax the rich their fair share so they don't triple their wealth while the rest and the country go to hell, like the last 30 years. Vote DEM, HATER DUPES...

Taxing the rich more will not change wealth distribution. While taxing them a bit more might help balance the budget, it will do little to put more money in the pockets of the middle class and lower income earners. The biggest problem is not tax rates but the loopholes that are available to help people and companies avoid paying taxes. But this is where it gets tricky because it's not the amount of taxes collected that matters; it's what people and companies must do to avoid paying those taxes.

It used to be that companies and investors could avoid paying taxes by reinvesting their money into businesses here in the US. This is how everyone got out of paying excessively high tax rates, but that was okay because in doing so the money went toward the growth of new and existing businesses, which in turn meant more jobs. Today, private investors pay such a small percentage in capital gains taxes that it really doesn't matter to them and businesses just send all of their money overseas to be invested into new markets while ignoring the US market where they made the bulk of their money to begin with. What we need is a restructuring of the tax code so that US companies must reinvest their profits back into the US economy in order to avoid paying these taxes.
 
The capitalists, not the socialists, have eviscerated the economic engine of the consumer economy, the middle class, which spends 2 of every 3 dollars in our economy, by steadily eroding its purchasing power over the last thirty years.
 
Solution- tax the rich their fair share so they don't triple their wealth while the rest and the country go to hell, like the last 30 years. Vote DEM, HATER DUPES...


Yes, if anyone is successful and makes a little money (let's call them 'the rich') take it away from them and give it to the idle and the feckless. THAT'S the way to build a great economy!

Yup. We are fast being overrun with freeloaders.

Folks who would much rather sit on their asses and let someone else pay for their lives.

If your rich then the liberal idiots think YOU should be supporting those freeloaders. In fact you should feel duty bound to do so.

I shudder to think what this country will be in the next twenty years. Good Gawd. What happens when there are more takers than producers? Food for thought.

As Maggie Thatcher said, Socialism works great till you run out of other peoples money.
 
Solution- tax the rich their fair share so they don't triple their wealth while the rest and the country go to hell, like the last 30 years. Vote DEM, HATER DUPES...

Exactly how is taxing "the rich" their fair share going to help people get jobs?

At the most, taxation can only help increase government handouts like welfare. It does not help in any way the private economy, business side or the employees.

This is the plan of Democrats though, simply tax the rich to make yourself feel better, even though it won't help the economy one bit.
 
So what?

What does that have to do with Wolfstrike's conundrum of companies using overseas labor to increase profits versus lowering wages in the US to retain the employment?

The only thing you've said here with your Wikipedia cut and paste is how much easier the Internet and NAFTA has made it for Republican CEOs to exploit cheap labor overseas.

And what have the Democrats and Obama done about it? Oh yea, they passed Obamacare to make things even worse.

Stateside companies already cannot compete with (Chinese) slave labor. Now companies also have to contend with Obamacare....this will be the deathblow for any company.

Only a liberal could think that a company with US employees limited to certain work hours and fully paid health coverage, while adhering to every environmental law as well, could actually compete with a company with Chinese slaves working for a fraction of the cost, no health care, and no environmental standards to abide by. So you really can't blame companies for moving overseas....they are just trying to survive. The only other option is to go out of business. The only real option to protect US companies operating within the US is to inact tariffs. However neither Dems nor Republicans are willling to inact tariffs.
 
So what?

What does that have to do with Wolfstrike's conundrum of companies using overseas labor to increase profits versus lowering wages in the US to retain the employment?

The only thing you've said here with your Wikipedia cut and paste is how much easier the Internet and NAFTA has made it for Republican CEOs to exploit cheap labor overseas.

So what? = typical liberal response

I'M talking to a liberal stupid ass (you) and your "typical" liberal response, in short, smoking you like a cheap cigar...:lol:

Deflection = typical ignorant ass response

Grow up dingbat and explain why your cut and paste is relevant to Wolfstrike's dilemma of the use of offshore labor versus lowering pay rates to retain labor.

I was responding to part of your quote not Wolfstrike's:

"First you get pissy because Republican CEOs move their company production offshore to other countries so they can make more billions from cheaper labor"

You were blaming repubs and I showed you it started under demorats(60’s) and Clinton(94) really put the hammer down with nafta.

You got smoked, deal with it…:smoke:
 
Solution- tax the rich their fair share so they don't triple their wealth while the rest and the country go to hell, like the last 30 years. Vote DEM, HATER DUPES...

Exactly how is taxing "the rich" their fair share going to help people get jobs?

At the most, taxation can only help increase government handouts like welfare. It does not help in any way the private economy, business side or the employees.

This is the plan of Democrats though, simply tax the rich to make yourself feel better, even though it won't help the economy one bit.

LISTEN, dumbass dupes, instead of pandering to the bloated rich for 30 years, you invest the money in infrrastructure jobs, training and federal aid to states so they can lower property taxes, state and local taxes and fees, PUBLIC COLLEGE COSTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE that have been rising for 30 years and KILL THE NONRICH...in other words, turn back REAGANISM'S EFFECTS THAT HAVE RUINED THE COUNTRY...

YOU brainwashed idiots are perfect chumps for bs Pub propaganda blaming everything on the victims of their pillaging of the country- stupidest voters in the modern world. Read something NOT from the Koch Bros etc...aarrgghh...
 

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