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The Man Who Could Have Changed History

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One man could have changed the course of history, and he had the opportunity to do so handed to him on a silver platter, free for the taking. Who is that man; Can you guess?

He was a professional soldier for 35 years, holding a variety of command and staff positions and rising to the rank of General. He was Ronald Reagan's National Security Advisor, serving from 1987 to 1989 while retaining his Army commission as a lieutenant general. In April 1989, after his tenure with the National Security Council, Powell was promoted to four-star general under President George H. W. Bush and briefly served as the Commander in Chief, Forces Command (FORSCOM), overseeing all Army, Army Reserve, and National Guard units in the Continental U.S., Alaska, Hawaii, and Puerto Rico. He became the third general since World War II to reach four-star rank without ever serving as a division commander, joining Dwight D. Eisenhower and Alexander Haig. Later he was selected him as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He ascended from chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff during the elder Bush's administration to secretary of state under his son. That man is Colin Powell

For a time, that looked quite possible that he would run for president and win. Through 1995 there was hope that Powell would run for president. He led in polls of Republican primary voters. The same surveys suggested he was capable of beating President Bill Clinton. Powell could have been elected in 1996. The first black president of the United States being a Republican would have been a significant development, one that might have mitigated, if not averted, the ugly racialization of our politics. Powell would have been a moderate not too strongly associated with the left or the right, likely allowing him to assemble an electoral coalition unlike anything we can imagine today. As a Republican and the first black president, and the winner of the Gulf War, the newly minted Republican congress would have given him anything he wanted. The internet boom would have happened anyway; perhaps Powell's policies would have been even more pro-growth than second-term Clinton's.

Sadly, Powell did not run. Instead, the GOP had the sad farewell tour masquerading as a presidential campaign embarked upon by the otherwise heroic Bob Dole. A good man, but he had no chance of beating Bill Clinton, and Clinton won his second term.

A President Powell might have returned us to the era of good feelings under Reagan. A booming economy, a popular president backed by independents, no Whitewater investigations, no Monica Lewinsky, no impeachment. And maybe only one President Bush?

If 9/11 had happened under a President Powell's, the US might have been less likely to respond by waging a second war in Iraq. Our response to 9/11 may well have been limited to hitting Afghanistan, keeping the international coalition against terrorism intact under a president who had been part of winning a war.

If you look at the past 20-plus years of American politics — the Clinton embarrassments (and later the Hillary embarrassments), the Bush-Cheney wars, the horrible reign of Barack Obama — wouldn't you have wanted to avoid a lot of it? Hindsight is 20-20, but Powell looks like he might have been our best bet for doing so.

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One man could have changed the course of history, and he had the opportunity to do so handed to him on a silver platter, free for the taking. Who is that man; Can you guess?

He was a professional soldier for 35 years, holding a variety of command and staff positions and rising to the rank of General. He was Ronald Reagan's National Security Advisor, serving from 1987 to 1989 while retaining his Army commission as a lieutenant general. In April 1989, after his tenure with the National Security Council, Powell was promoted to four-star general under President George H. W. Bush and briefly served as the Commander in Chief, Forces Command (FORSCOM), overseeing all Army, Army Reserve, and National Guard units in the Continental U.S., Alaska, Hawaii, and Puerto Rico. He became the third general since World War II to reach four-star rank without ever serving as a division commander, joining Dwight D. Eisenhower and Alexander Haig. Later he was selected him as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He ascended from chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff during the elder Bush's administration to secretary of state under his son. That man is Colin Powell

For a time, that looked quite possible that he would run for president and win. Through 1995 there was hope that Powell would run for president. He led in polls of Republican primary voters. The same surveys suggested he was capable of beating President Bill Clinton. Powell could have been elected in 1996. The first black president of the United States being a Republican would have been a significant development, one that might have mitigated, if not averted, the ugly racialization of our politics. Powell would have been a moderate not too strongly associated with the left or the right, likely allowing him to assemble an electoral coalition unlike anything we can imagine today. As a Republican and the first black president, and the winner of the Gulf War, the newly minted Republican congress would have given him anything he wanted. The internet boom would have happened anyway; perhaps Powell's policies would have been even more pro-growth than second-term Clinton's.

Sadly, Powell did not run. Instead, the GOP had the sad farewell tour masquerading as a presidential campaign embarked upon by the otherwise heroic Bob Dole. A good man, but he had no chance of beating Bill Clinton, and Clinton won his second term.

A President Powell might have returned us to the era of good feelings under Reagan. A booming economy, a popular president backed by independents, no Whitewater investigations, no Monica Lewinsky, no impeachment. And maybe only one President Bush?

If 9/11 had happened under a President Powell's, the US might have been less likely to respond by waging a second war in Iraq. Our response to 9/11 may well have been limited to hitting Afghanistan, keeping the international coalition against terrorism intact under a president who had been part of winning a war.

If you look at the past 20-plus years of American politics — the Clinton embarrassments (and later the Hillary embarrassments), the Bush-Cheney wars, the horrible reign of Barack Obama — wouldn't you have wanted to avoid a lot of it? Hindsight is 20-20, but Powell looks like he might have been our best bet for doing so.

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If 9/11 had happened under a President Powell's, the US might have been less likely to respond by waging a second war in Iraq. Our response to 9/11 may well have been limited to hitting Afghanistan, keeping the international coalition against terrorism intact under a president who had been part of winning a war



9/11 happened under Bush. It was Colin Powell who spun the yellowcake myth in front of the UN advocating an invasion of Iraq

It ruined Powell’s credibility

 
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9/11 happened under Bush. It was Colin Powell who spun the yellowcake myth in front of the UN advocating an invasion of Iraq

Powell was following orders. My guess that you have never served and do not understand the concept of following orders. He had no reason to disbelieve the intelligence reports he was given.

Besides, your side are the people who rag on Trump for not believing his intelligence people. You say it all the time in this forum. Well, Bush and Powell did believe their intelligence people and thats what they got.

You can't have it both ways.

And all that has nothing to do with the main point of the OP.
 
One man could have changed the course of history, and he had the opportunity to do so handed to him on a silver platter, free for the taking. Who is that man; Can you guess?

He was a professional soldier for 35 years, holding a variety of command and staff positions and rising to the rank of General. He was Ronald Reagan's National Security Advisor, serving from 1987 to 1989 while retaining his Army commission as a lieutenant general. In April 1989, after his tenure with the National Security Council, Powell was promoted to four-star general under President George H. W. Bush and briefly served as the Commander in Chief, Forces Command (FORSCOM), overseeing all Army, Army Reserve, and National Guard units in the Continental U.S., Alaska, Hawaii, and Puerto Rico. He became the third general since World War II to reach four-star rank without ever serving as a division commander, joining Dwight D. Eisenhower and Alexander Haig. Later he was selected him as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He ascended from chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff during the elder Bush's administration to secretary of state under his son. That man is Colin Powell

For a time, that looked quite possible that he would run for president and win. Through 1995 there was hope that Powell would run for president. He led in polls of Republican primary voters. The same surveys suggested he was capable of beating President Bill Clinton. Powell could have been elected in 1996. The first black president of the United States being a Republican would have been a significant development, one that might have mitigated, if not averted, the ugly racialization of our politics. Powell would have been a moderate not too strongly associated with the left or the right, likely allowing him to assemble an electoral coalition unlike anything we can imagine today. As a Republican and the first black president, and the winner of the Gulf War, the newly minted Republican congress would have given him anything he wanted. The internet boom would have happened anyway; perhaps Powell's policies would have been even more pro-growth than second-term Clinton's.

Sadly, Powell did not run. Instead, the GOP had the sad farewell tour masquerading as a presidential campaign embarked upon by the otherwise heroic Bob Dole. A good man, but he had no chance of beating Bill Clinton, and Clinton won his second term.

A President Powell might have returned us to the era of good feelings under Reagan. A booming economy, a popular president backed by independents, no Whitewater investigations, no Monica Lewinsky, no impeachment. And maybe only one President Bush?

If 9/11 had happened under a President Powell's, the US might have been less likely to respond by waging a second war in Iraq. Our response to 9/11 may well have been limited to hitting Afghanistan, keeping the international coalition against terrorism intact under a president who had been part of winning a war.

If you look at the past 20-plus years of American politics — the Clinton embarrassments (and later the Hillary embarrassments), the Bush-Cheney wars, the horrible reign of Barack Obama — wouldn't you have wanted to avoid a lot of it? Hindsight is 20-20, but Powell looks like he might have been our best bet for doing so.

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2020 hindsight is always full of great hope and "what if's". If John Kennedy, didnt get US involved in the French Debacle of the Vietnam War,10s of thousands of US young men wouldn't of been killed, his lowering of taxes would of been an economic powerhouse but again it didnt happen. Who knows what the world would of looked like, but we are here, now, and thank God and the US citizens that gave US, President Trump.
 
One man could have changed the course of history, and he had the opportunity to do so handed to him on a silver platter, free for the taking. Who is that man; Can you guess?

He was a professional soldier for 35 years, holding a variety of command and staff positions and rising to the rank of General. He was Ronald Reagan's National Security Advisor, serving from 1987 to 1989 while retaining his Army commission as a lieutenant general. In April 1989, after his tenure with the National Security Council, Powell was promoted to four-star general under President George H. W. Bush and briefly served as the Commander in Chief, Forces Command (FORSCOM), overseeing all Army, Army Reserve, and National Guard units in the Continental U.S., Alaska, Hawaii, and Puerto Rico. He became the third general since World War II to reach four-star rank without ever serving as a division commander, joining Dwight D. Eisenhower and Alexander Haig. Later he was selected him as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He ascended from chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff during the elder Bush's administration to secretary of state under his son. That man is Colin Powell

For a time, that looked quite possible that he would run for president and win. Through 1995 there was hope that Powell would run for president. He led in polls of Republican primary voters. The same surveys suggested he was capable of beating President Bill Clinton. Powell could have been elected in 1996. The first black president of the United States being a Republican would have been a significant development, one that might have mitigated, if not averted, the ugly racialization of our politics. Powell would have been a moderate not too strongly associated with the left or the right, likely allowing him to assemble an electoral coalition unlike anything we can imagine today. As a Republican and the first black president, and the winner of the Gulf War, the newly minted Republican congress would have given him anything he wanted. The internet boom would have happened anyway; perhaps Powell's policies would have been even more pro-growth than second-term Clinton's.

Sadly, Powell did not run. Instead, the GOP had the sad farewell tour masquerading as a presidential campaign embarked upon by the otherwise heroic Bob Dole. A good man, but he had no chance of beating Bill Clinton, and Clinton won his second term.

A President Powell might have returned us to the era of good feelings under Reagan. A booming economy, a popular president backed by independents, no Whitewater investigations, no Monica Lewinsky, no impeachment. And maybe only one President Bush?

If 9/11 had happened under a President Powell's, the US might have been less likely to respond by waging a second war in Iraq. Our response to 9/11 may well have been limited to hitting Afghanistan, keeping the international coalition against terrorism intact under a president who had been part of winning a war.

If you look at the past 20-plus years of American politics — the Clinton embarrassments (and later the Hillary embarrassments), the Bush-Cheney wars, the horrible reign of Barack Obama — wouldn't you have wanted to avoid a lot of it? Hindsight is 20-20, but Powell looks like he might have been our best bet for doing so.

Author: Me.

And if former Governor of Illinois ran for the Senate Seat that Barack Hussein Obama won there would have been no President Obama but we can not live in what if fairytale land...
 
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2020 hindsight is always full of great hope and "what if's". If John Kennedy, didnt get US involved in the French Debacle of the Vietnam War,10s of thousands of US young men wouldn't of been killed, his lowering of taxes would of been an economic powerhouse but again it didnt happen. Who knows what the world would of looked like, but we are here, now, and thank God and the US citizens that gave US, President Trump.

I guess the thing that makes this somewhat unique is that the nomination and the presidency was being handed to Powell on a silver platter and he said no. He could have been the first black president and molded history and he said no.

JFK? Well, the forces the be made his Viet Nam decisions almost inevitable in the context of the times.

Colin Powell and what may have happened is a subject that nobody ever seems to talk about. I thought it was worth a thread.
 
One man could have changed the course of history, and he had the opportunity to do so handed to him on a silver platter, free for the taking. Who is that man; Can you guess?

He was a professional soldier for 35 years, holding a variety of command and staff positions and rising to the rank of General. He was Ronald Reagan's National Security Advisor, serving from 1987 to 1989 while retaining his Army commission as a lieutenant general. In April 1989, after his tenure with the National Security Council, Powell was promoted to four-star general under President George H. W. Bush and briefly served as the Commander in Chief, Forces Command (FORSCOM), overseeing all Army, Army Reserve, and National Guard units in the Continental U.S., Alaska, Hawaii, and Puerto Rico. He became the third general since World War II to reach four-star rank without ever serving as a division commander, joining Dwight D. Eisenhower and Alexander Haig. Later he was selected him as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He ascended from chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff during the elder Bush's administration to secretary of state under his son. That man is Colin Powell

For a time, that looked quite possible that he would run for president and win. Through 1995 there was hope that Powell would run for president. He led in polls of Republican primary voters. The same surveys suggested he was capable of beating President Bill Clinton. Powell could have been elected in 1996. The first black president of the United States being a Republican would have been a significant development, one that might have mitigated, if not averted, the ugly racialization of our politics. Powell would have been a moderate not too strongly associated with the left or the right, likely allowing him to assemble an electoral coalition unlike anything we can imagine today. As a Republican and the first black president, and the winner of the Gulf War, the newly minted Republican congress would have given him anything he wanted. The internet boom would have happened anyway; perhaps Powell's policies would have been even more pro-growth than second-term Clinton's.

Sadly, Powell did not run. Instead, the GOP had the sad farewell tour masquerading as a presidential campaign embarked upon by the otherwise heroic Bob Dole. A good man, but he had no chance of beating Bill Clinton, and Clinton won his second term.

A President Powell might have returned us to the era of good feelings under Reagan. A booming economy, a popular president backed by independents, no Whitewater investigations, no Monica Lewinsky, no impeachment. And maybe only one President Bush?

If 9/11 had happened under a President Powell's, the US might have been less likely to respond by waging a second war in Iraq. Our response to 9/11 may well have been limited to hitting Afghanistan, keeping the international coalition against terrorism intact under a president who had been part of winning a war.

If you look at the past 20-plus years of American politics — the Clinton embarrassments (and later the Hillary embarrassments), the Bush-Cheney wars, the horrible reign of Barack Obama — wouldn't you have wanted to avoid a lot of it? Hindsight is 20-20, but Powell looks like he might have been our best bet for doing so.

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I would have voted for him. He seemed like a truly decent man, which is probably why he refused to run.
 
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I would have voted for him. He seemed like a truly decent man, which is probably why he refused to run.

Agreed. I think there was a rumor about his wife having mental issues and he was afraid of exposing her to the horrors of a political campaign, but I don't know if that was ever established as fact.
 
There is no way a black man of any description or background will ever win the republican nomination.
 
I'd have preferred Schwartzkopf.

Of course I love General Schwartzkopf. But I don't think he was the political type. I also don't think he would have had the impact that Powell would have had. And what's more, nobody really knows where he stands on any issues.

Well, it would be one way to unload the far-right white supremacists from the party, wouldn't it?

There are no far-right white supremacists in the party, you stupid sack of shit. Don't gum up the thread with your moronic ignorance.
 
There is no way a black man of any description or background will ever win the republican nomination.

I disagree, but strongly believe we have seen the last black Progressive Democrat to be elected president at least through my child's lifetime.
 
I disagree, but strongly believe we have seen the last black Progressive Democrat to be elected president at least through my child's lifetime.

I agree. Obama was given a golden opportunity to bring people together, and instead he has hateful and divisive and promoted policies that divided America. Nobody is going to spin that wheel again for a long long time.
 
Well, it would be one way to unload the far-right white supremacists from the party, wouldn't it?

There are no far-right white supremacists in the party, you stupid sack of shit. Don't gum up the thread with your moronic ignorance.

of course there are. except for stephen miller, they may not be in the administration anymore , but they are still there & whispering in donny's cheeto dusted ear.

steve bannon & gorka come to mind right quick. & when you hafta resort to name calling right outa the gate to defend yerself, that shows quite a mental defect on yer part.
 
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