The Man Who Could Have Changed History

[theHawk]

I think it exposed Powell as a left winger.

I would say he was just your typical right winger that supported the globalist Agenda, like the Bushes.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Well, it would be one way to unload the far-right white supremacists from the party, wouldn't it?

There are no far-right white supremacists in the party, you stupid sack of shit. Don't gum up the thread with your moronic ignorance.

of course there are. except for stephen miller, they may not be in the administration anymore , but they are still there & whispering in donny's cheeto dusted ear.

steve bannon & gorka come to mind right quick. & when you hafta resort to name calling right outa the gate to defend yerself, that shows quite the mental defect on yer part.

Trump hates Bannon.

Show proof that Gorka is an alt right racist as you claim.

 

[occupied]

There is no way a black man of any description or background will ever win the republican nomination.

I disagree, but strongly believe we have seen the last black Progressive Democrat to be elected president at least through my child's lifetime.

I don't know about all that. Boomers are losing about 4000 people a day now.

 

[hadit]

There is no way a black man of any description or background will ever win the republican nomination.

That's false.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

If 9/11 had happened under a President Powell's, the US might have been less likely to respond by waging a second war in Iraq. Our response to 9/11 may well have been limited to hitting Afghanistan, keeping the international coalition against terrorism intact under a president who had been part of winning a war



9/11 happened under Bush. It was Colin Powell who spun the yellowcake myth in front of the UN advocating an invasion of Iraq

It ruined Powell’s credibility

it was also democrats before 9/11 pushing Iraq WMDS

 

[bigrebnc1775]

There is no way a black man of any description or background will ever win the republican nomination.

I disagree, but strongly believe we have seen the last black Progressive Democrat to be elected president at least through my child's lifetime.

I don't know about all that. Boomers are losing about 4000 people a day now.

those democrat freshmen congressmen are doing a stand-up job for Republicans wouldn't you agree?

 

[rightwinger]

9/11 happened under Bush. It was Colin Powell who spun the yellowcake myth in front of the UN advocating an invasion of Iraq

Powell was following orders. My guess that you have never served and do not understand the concept of following orders. He had no reason to disbelieve the intelligence reports he was given.

Besides, your side are the people who rag on Trump for not believing his intelligence people. You say it all the time in this forum. Well, Bush and Powell did believe their intelligence people and thats what they got.

You can't have it both ways.

And all that has nothing to do with the main point of the OP.

Lying to the UN to start a war is not a lawful order

 

[rightwinger]

There is no way a black man of any description or background will ever win the republican nomination.

I disagree, but strongly believe we have seen the last black Progressive Democrat to be elected president at least through my child's lifetime.

I don't know about all that. Boomers are losing about 4000 people a day now.

those democrat freshmen congressmen are doing a stand-up job for Republicans wouldn't you agree?

They are the equivalent of the Tea Tards

Only difference is Democrats do not take them seriously

 

[occupied]

There is no way a black man of any description or background will ever win the republican nomination.

I disagree, but strongly believe we have seen the last black Progressive Democrat to be elected president at least through my child's lifetime.

I don't know about all that. Boomers are losing about 4000 people a day now.

those democrat freshmen congressmen are doing a stand-up job for Republicans wouldn't you agree?

No.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

There is no way a black man of any description or background will ever win the republican nomination.

I disagree, but strongly believe we have seen the last black Progressive Democrat to be elected president at least through my child's lifetime.

I don't know about all that. Boomers are losing about 4000 people a day now.

those democrat freshmen congressmen are doing a stand-up job for Republicans wouldn't you agree?

They are the equivalent of the Tea Tards

Only difference is Democrats do not take them seriously

President bill clinton? why was he beating the war drum?
why were democrats doing it?

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

There is no way a black man of any description or background will ever win the republican nomination.

I disagree, but strongly believe we have seen the last black Progressive Democrat to be elected president at least through my child's lifetime.

I don't know about all that. Boomers are losing about 4000 people a day now.

My son is vehemently opposed to you people. He will be around a long time, and he is not alone.

You people do not have near the numbers you think you do.

 

[playtime]

Well, it would be one way to unload the far-right white supremacists from the party, wouldn't it?

There are no far-right white supremacists in the party, you stupid sack of shit. Don't gum up the thread with your moronic ignorance.

of course there are. except for stephen miller, they may not be in the administration anymore , but they are still there & whispering in donny's cheeto dusted ear.

steve bannon & gorka come to mind right quick. & when you hafta resort to name calling right outa the gate to defend yerself, that shows quite the mental defect on yer part.

Trump hates Bannon.

Show proof that Gorka is an alt right racist as you claim.

you think because steve bannon is 'hated' by trump, that donny doesn't approve of what he's doing since he left the administration ( not because of trump, but of bad PR)?
silly you.

as for gorka...

Sebastian Gorka, Trump’s most controversial national security aide, is out

A Nazi-linked group was "proud" after Trump aide wore its medal

why would he sport a pin from vitezi rend? 'cause it looked good?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

If 9/11 had happened under a President Powell's, the US might have been less likely to respond by waging a second war in Iraq. Our response to 9/11 may well have been limited to hitting Afghanistan, keeping the international coalition against terrorism intact under a president who had been part of winning a war



9/11 happened under Bush. It was Colin Powell who spun the yellowcake myth in front of the UN advocating an invasion of Iraq

It ruined Powell’s credibility

Only because people like you keep repeating the myth that no weapons were ever found. When we all know there was plenty found.
NYT wrote a piece on this very thing in 2014. Saying yes there were WMD's found, some 5000 shells. With photos and everything.
But, of course, you just keep repeating the old lie.
Over and over.
And that is how you ruin your credibility.

 

[rightwinger]

There is no way a black man of any description or background will ever win the republican nomination.

I disagree, but strongly believe we have seen the last black Progressive Democrat to be elected president at least through my child's lifetime.

I don't know about all that. Boomers are losing about 4000 people a day now.

those democrat freshmen congressmen are doing a stand-up job for Republicans wouldn't you agree?

They are the equivalent of the Tea Tards

Only difference is Democrats do not take them seriously

President bill clinton? why was he beating the war drum?
why were democrats doing it?

Didn’t see Clinton start a war

 

[rightwinger]

If 9/11 had happened under a President Powell's, the US might have been less likely to respond by waging a second war in Iraq. Our response to 9/11 may well have been limited to hitting Afghanistan, keeping the international coalition against terrorism intact under a president who had been part of winning a war



9/11 happened under Bush. It was Colin Powell who spun the yellowcake myth in front of the UN advocating an invasion of Iraq

It ruined Powell’s credibility

Only because people like you keep repeating the myth that no weapons were ever found. When we all know there was plenty found.
NYT wrote a piece on this very thing in 2014. Saying yes there were WMD's found, some 5000 shells. With photos and everything.
But, of course, you just keep repeating the old lie.
Over and over.
And that is how you ruin your credibility.

More revisionist history

Decades old shells are not a threat of mass destruction and do not justify the loss of a 100,000 lives

 

[playtime]

If 9/11 had happened under a President Powell's, the US might have been less likely to respond by waging a second war in Iraq. Our response to 9/11 may well have been limited to hitting Afghanistan, keeping the international coalition against terrorism intact under a president who had been part of winning a war



9/11 happened under Bush. It was Colin Powell who spun the yellowcake myth in front of the UN advocating an invasion of Iraq

It ruined Powell’s credibility

it was also democrats before 9/11 pushing Iraq WMDS

15 of the 19 animals that slammed into our country on 9/11 were saudis. not one was iraqi.

huh.... curious that.

 

[OldLady]

I'd have preferred Schwartzkopf.

Of course I love General Schwartzkopf. But I don't think he was the political type. I also don't think he would have had the impact that Powell would have had. And what's more, nobody really knows where he stands on any issues.

Well, it would be one way to unload the far-right white supremacists from the party, wouldn't it?

There are no far-right white supremacists in the party, you stupid sack of shit. Don't gum up the thread with your moronic ignorance.

Okay. They just voted for him, support him, whatever. Take a look around here, peanut. No matter how many cuss words you use, it is still a fact.

 

[rightwinger]

Today, Powell is despised by the Republican Party

 

[OldLady]

Today, Powell is despised by the Republican Party

Far too decent. Look what they elected.

 

[debbiedowner]

One man could have changed the course of history, and he had the opportunity to do so handed to him on a silver platter, free for the taking. Who is that man; Can you guess?

He was a professional soldier for 35 years, holding a variety of command and staff positions and rising to the rank of General. He was Ronald Reagan's National Security Advisor, serving from 1987 to 1989 while retaining his Army commission as a lieutenant general. In April 1989, after his tenure with the National Security Council, Powell was promoted to four-star general under President George H. W. Bush and briefly served as the Commander in Chief, Forces Command (FORSCOM), overseeing all Army, Army Reserve, and National Guard units in the Continental U.S., Alaska, Hawaii, and Puerto Rico. He became the third general since World War II to reach four-star rank without ever serving as a division commander, joining Dwight D. Eisenhower and Alexander Haig. Later he was selected him as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He ascended from chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff during the elder Bush's administration to secretary of state under his son. That man is Colin Powell

For a time, that looked quite possible that he would run for president and win. Through 1995 there was hope that Powell would run for president. He led in polls of Republican primary voters. The same surveys suggested he was capable of beating President Bill Clinton. Powell could have been elected in 1996. The first black president of the United States being a Republican would have been a significant development, one that might have mitigated, if not averted, the ugly racialization of our politics. Powell would have been a moderate not too strongly associated with the left or the right, likely allowing him to assemble an electoral coalition unlike anything we can imagine today. As a Republican and the first black president, and the winner of the Gulf War, the newly minted Republican congress would have given him anything he wanted. The internet boom would have happened anyway; perhaps Powell's policies would have been even more pro-growth than second-term Clinton's.

Sadly, Powell did not run. Instead, the GOP had the sad farewell tour masquerading as a presidential campaign embarked upon by the otherwise heroic Bob Dole. A good man, but he had no chance of beating Bill Clinton, and Clinton won his second term.

A President Powell might have returned us to the era of good feelings under Reagan. A booming economy, a popular president backed by independents, no Whitewater investigations, no Monica Lewinsky, no impeachment. And maybe only one President Bush?

If 9/11 had happened under a President Powell's, the US might have been less likely to respond by waging a second war in Iraq. Our response to 9/11 may well have been limited to hitting Afghanistan, keeping the international coalition against terrorism intact under a president who had been part of winning a war.

If you look at the past 20-plus years of American politics — the Clinton embarrassments (and later the Hillary embarrassments), the Bush-Cheney wars, the horrible reign of Barack Obama — wouldn't you have wanted to avoid a lot of it? Hindsight is 20-20, but Powell looks like he might have been our best bet for doing so.

Author: Me.

2020 hindsight is always full of great hope and "what if's". If John Kennedy, didnt get US involved in the French Debacle of the Vietnam War,10s of thousands of US young men wouldn't of been killed, his lowering of taxes would of been an economic powerhouse but again it didnt happen. Who knows what the world would of looked like, but we are here, now, and thank God and the US citizens that gave US, President Trump.

You must have meant Eisenhower.

https://www.history.com/topics/vietnam-war/vietnam-war-history


November 1, 1955 — President Eisenhower deploys the Military Assistance Advisory Group to train the Army of the Republic of Vietnam. This marks the official beginning of American involvement in the war as recognized by the Vietnam Veterans Memorial. April 1956 — The last French troops leave Vietnam