The mind-boggling idiocy of Obama's war on coal

[Old Rocks]

" Researchers at Columbia University's Center for Children's Environmental Health (CCCEH) have released a study concluding that closing coal-fired power plants can have a direct, positive impact on a child's brain development.

Science Daily is reporting that the study, to be released in the July 14th edition of Environmental Health Perspectives:

"... allowed researchers to track and compare the development of two groups of children born in Tongliang, a city in China's Chongqing Municipality -- one in utero while a coal-fired power plant was operating in the city and one in utero after the Chinese government had closed the plant."

he results look pretty clear:

The group of children exposed to coal-burning emisssions while still in their mother's womb had significantly lower average developmental scores and reduced motor development at age two.

In the group of children not exposed to coal-burning emissions, did not have these adverse effects; and the frequency of delayed motor developmental was significantly reduced.

"These findings have major implications for environmental health and energy policy as they demonstrate that reduction in dependence on coal for energy can have a measurable positive impact on children's development and health -- in China and elsewhere," said Frederica Perera, professor of Environmental Health Sciences at the Mailman School of Public Health, director of the Columbia Center for Children's Environmental Health, and lead author of the study.

Closing Coal-fired Power Plants Improves Cognitive Development Of Children, New Study Suggests

Unfortunately for children of CONS,
they don't give a flying fuck about anyone, if it cost them 5 cents more on their electric bill.

yes, folks, we have a WINNER-------the DUMB POST OF THE DAY AWARD Congratulations, dumb ass

OK, ol' Fishy, this is only one of several studies that have unequivacably linked the emissions from coal fired plants to autism and asthma. The dumb poster here is you. You present flap-yap, with zero to back it up.

Coal is going the way of buggy whips. And a good thing. One only has to look at the environmental damage done by the mountain top removal to see why this should be terminated. Coal has been a disaster for environment and people's health from the git-go.

 

[Old Rocks]

As soon as obama kills off coal, he will kill of natural gas by attacking fracking. His goal is to kill off energy use.

I heard on Mark Levin's show tonight O was giving yet another speech in Africa
promoting the production of electricity....

So why is he trying to destroy a form of production here???

because he hates us and our country..we have to be brought down to third world conditions in order to pay for our sins

No, Staph, it is people like you that hate our nation and do your best to sow discord.

We have ample ways of generating the power we need without doing damage to our children and environment.

 

[Old Rocks]

Does coal have a negative effect on health?
Engulfed in a Toxic Cloud: The Effects of Coal Mining On Human Health
Engulfed in a Toxic Cloud: The Effects of Coal Mining On Human Health : Harvard College Global Health Review

Health effects of coal
Health effects of coal - SourceWatch

Coal Pollution Damages Human Health at Every Stage of Coal Life Cycle, Reports Physicians for Social Responsibility
Coal Pollution Damages Human Health at Every Stage of Coal Life Cycle, Reports Physicians... -- WASHINGTON, Nov. 18 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ --

American Lung Association Report Highlights Toxic Health Threat of Coal-fired Power Plants, Calls for EPA to Reduce Emissions and Save Lives
American Lung Association Report Highlights Toxic Health Threat of Coal-fired Power Plants, Calls for EPA to Reduce Emissions and Save Lives - American Lung Association

Does anyone have anything to counter these studies?

And there's a cost to all of this including the cost of healthcare.

Mining Coal, Mounting Costs
Energy is essential to our daily lives, and for the past century and a half we have depended on fossil fuels to produce it. But, from extraction to combustion, coal, oil and natural gas have multiple health, environmental and economic impacts that are proving costly for society. We estimate that the life cycle impacts of coal, and the waste stream generated, are costing the U.S. public a third to over one-half a trillion dollars annually.
Mining Coal, Mounting Costs: The life cycle consequences of coal | The Center for Health and the Global Environment

So there we have it. Coal's effects cost people's lives and health and it also has other costs. like lightening people's checkbook. Yet people want to continue using a product that has all these negative effects. Why? Anyone?

for starters, we don't have anything CHEAPER at this time that won't drive people into the poor house..

Yes, we do. Natural gas and wind, with all costs factored in, are both cheaper than coal. Solar will soon be. Geothermal will also be cheaper, once we start doing it.

 

[Stephanie]

Does coal have a negative effect on health?
Engulfed in a Toxic Cloud: The Effects of Coal Mining On Human Health
Engulfed in a Toxic Cloud: The Effects of Coal Mining On Human Health : Harvard College Global Health Review

Health effects of coal
Health effects of coal - SourceWatch

Coal Pollution Damages Human Health at Every Stage of Coal Life Cycle, Reports Physicians for Social Responsibility
Coal Pollution Damages Human Health at Every Stage of Coal Life Cycle, Reports Physicians... -- WASHINGTON, Nov. 18 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ --

American Lung Association Report Highlights Toxic Health Threat of Coal-fired Power Plants, Calls for EPA to Reduce Emissions and Save Lives
American Lung Association Report Highlights Toxic Health Threat of Coal-fired Power Plants, Calls for EPA to Reduce Emissions and Save Lives - American Lung Association

Does anyone have anything to counter these studies?

And there's a cost to all of this including the cost of healthcare.

Mining Coal, Mounting Costs
Energy is essential to our daily lives, and for the past century and a half we have depended on fossil fuels to produce it. But, from extraction to combustion, coal, oil and natural gas have multiple health, environmental and economic impacts that are proving costly for society. We estimate that the life cycle impacts of coal, and the waste stream generated, are costing the U.S. public a third to over one-half a trillion dollars annually.
Mining Coal, Mounting Costs: The life cycle consequences of coal | The Center for Health and the Global Environment

So there we have it. Coal's effects cost people's lives and health and it also has other costs. like lightening people's checkbook. Yet people want to continue using a product that has all these negative effects. Why? Anyone?

for starters, we don't have anything CHEAPER at this time that won't drive people into the poor house..

Yes, we do. Natural gas and wind, with all costs factored in, are both cheaper than coal. Solar will soon be. Geothermal will also be cheaper, once we start doing it.

the key word, will SOON be..so let this President drive the people into the poor house until we get those up and running

 

[Redfish]

Does coal have a negative effect on health?
Engulfed in a Toxic Cloud: The Effects of Coal Mining On Human Health
Engulfed in a Toxic Cloud: The Effects of Coal Mining On Human Health : Harvard College Global Health Review

Health effects of coal
Health effects of coal - SourceWatch

Coal Pollution Damages Human Health at Every Stage of Coal Life Cycle, Reports Physicians for Social Responsibility
Coal Pollution Damages Human Health at Every Stage of Coal Life Cycle, Reports Physicians... -- WASHINGTON, Nov. 18 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ --

American Lung Association Report Highlights Toxic Health Threat of Coal-fired Power Plants, Calls for EPA to Reduce Emissions and Save Lives
American Lung Association Report Highlights Toxic Health Threat of Coal-fired Power Plants, Calls for EPA to Reduce Emissions and Save Lives - American Lung Association

Does anyone have anything to counter these studies?

And there's a cost to all of this including the cost of healthcare.

Mining Coal, Mounting Costs
Energy is essential to our daily lives, and for the past century and a half we have depended on fossil fuels to produce it. But, from extraction to combustion, coal, oil and natural gas have multiple health, environmental and economic impacts that are proving costly for society. We estimate that the life cycle impacts of coal, and the waste stream generated, are costing the U.S. public a third to over one-half a trillion dollars annually.
Mining Coal, Mounting Costs: The life cycle consequences of coal | The Center for Health and the Global Environment

So there we have it. Coal's effects cost people's lives and health and it also has other costs. like lightening people's checkbook. Yet people want to continue using a product that has all these negative effects. Why? Anyone?

for starters, we don't have anything CHEAPER at this time that won't drive people into the poor house..

Yes, we do. Natural gas and wind, with all costs factored in, are both cheaper than coal. Solar will soon be. Geothermal will also be cheaper, once we start doing it.

whats wrong with working on using coal more efficiently and with no pollution, clean coal technology is available now, the others may be someday, but to pretend that we can do without coal in the near future is naive.

natural gas is fine, but the envirowackos are raising hell about getting it by fracking----of course as usual they know nothing about it.

 

[Redfish]

Unfortunately for children of CONS,
they don't give a flying fuck about anyone, if it cost them 5 cents more on their electric bill.

yes, folks, we have a WINNER-------the DUMB POST OF THE DAY AWARD Congratulations, dumb ass

OK, ol' Fishy, this is only one of several studies that have unequivacably linked the emissions from coal fired plants to autism and asthma. The dumb poster here is you. You present flap-yap, with zero to back it up.

Coal is going the way of buggy whips. And a good thing. One only has to look at the environmental damage done by the mountain top removal to see why this should be terminated. Coal has been a disaster for environment and people's health from the git-go.

clean coal technology is available now. why not use it?

 

[Redfish]

I heard on Mark Levin's show tonight O was giving yet another speech in Africa
promoting the production of electricity....

So why is he trying to destroy a form of production here???

because he hates us and our country..we have to be brought down to third world conditions in order to pay for our sins

No, Staph, it is people like you that hate our nation and do your best to sow discord.

We have ample ways of generating the power we need without doing damage to our children and environment.

when you can tell me about any fuel that will power an 18 wheeler, a train, or a plane across the country as efficiently as diesel or gasoline, then we can talk about alternatives

 

[Stephanie]

I heard on Mark Levin's show tonight O was giving yet another speech in Africa
promoting the production of electricity....

So why is he trying to destroy a form of production here???

because he hates us and our country..we have to be brought down to third world conditions in order to pay for our sins

No, Staph, it is people like you that hate our nation and do your best to sow discord.

We have ample ways of generating the power we need without doing damage to our children and environment.

lol, have you looked in a mirror lately? and this post is to bring us together I guess...

 

[Ava]

Black lung is on the rise in the US, would you work in a coal mine if it meant shortening your life span?

ask the half million people losing their jobs...

Moonglow and Obama don't give a shit about them. Especially Obama, even though a huge chunk of the population of Coal Country voted for him twice.

They probably would if they had to work for a living....

 

[Wildman]

good gawd, i never thought i would see people as stupid as you anti coal/liarberals/democRATS and RINOs !!

compared to the rest of the world the United States of America is the LEAST pollution producing country on Earth !!

<-------<<< Beijing

when you dumb ass dip shits get ChinX, India, Russia, and 100+ other pollution producing countries to clean up their act, i MIGHT consider a coal ban.., but that is at least 200 years from now !!

 

[Redfish]

good gawd, i never thought i would see people as stupid as you anti coal/liarberals/democRATS and RINOs !!

compared to the rest of the world the United States of America is the LEAST pollution producing country on Earth !!

<-------<<< Beijing

when you dumb ass dip shits get ChinX, India, Russia, and 100+ other pollution producing countries to clean up their act, i MIGHT consider a coal ban.., but that is at least 200 years from now !!

This is not really about coal or pollution. Its about finding ways to bring the USA down to the level of the rest of the world and to punish us for our past successes (and slavery).

This all part of the obozo plan to fundamentally change america-------change us into a third world nation.

the man is a traitor and should be treated as such.

 

[kiwiman127]

for starters, we don't have anything CHEAPER at this time that won't drive people into the poor house..

Yes, we do. Natural gas and wind, with all costs factored in, are both cheaper than coal. Solar will soon be. Geothermal will also be cheaper, once we start doing it.

whats wrong with working on using coal more efficiently and with no pollution, clean coal technology is available now, the others may be someday, but to pretend that we can do without coal in the near future is naive.

natural gas is fine, but the envirowackos are raising hell about getting it by fracking----of course as usual they know nothing about it.

Problem is clean coal isn't exactly clean and the process to even produce clean coal with it's flaws raises the cost of coal.

The Myth of Clean Coal: Analysis
The Myth of Clean Coal: Analysis - Popular Mechanics

Exposing the Myth of Clean Coal Power
Exposing the Myth of Clean Coal Power - TIME

So clean coal is a noble move but it has been perfected and adds to the price of coal, thusly making it not such a cheap choice for energy. Clean coal needs more work,

 

[Redfish]

Yes, we do. Natural gas and wind, with all costs factored in, are both cheaper than coal. Solar will soon be. Geothermal will also be cheaper, once we start doing it.

whats wrong with working on using coal more efficiently and with no pollution, clean coal technology is available now, the others may be someday, but to pretend that we can do without coal in the near future is naive.

natural gas is fine, but the envirowackos are raising hell about getting it by fracking----of course as usual they know nothing about it.

Problem is clean coal isn't exactly clean and the process to even produce clean coal with it's flaws raises the cost of coal.

The Myth of Clean Coal: Analysis
The Myth of Clean Coal: Analysis - Popular Mechanics

Exposing the Myth of Clean Coal Power
Exposing the Myth of Clean Coal Power - TIME

So clean coal is a noble move but it has been perfected and adds to the price of coal, thusly making it not such a cheap choice for energy. Clean coal needs more work,

sure it needs more work, my question is why not work on it? We have billions of tons of coal, we have billions of cubic feet of natural gas, we have billions of barrels of oil. We could easily be energy self sufficient. But obama does not want that. He says he does but then everything he does makes us remain dependent on the mid east muslims. Do you ever wonder why?

 

[kiwiman127]

whats wrong with working on using coal more efficiently and with no pollution, clean coal technology is available now, the others may be someday, but to pretend that we can do without coal in the near future is naive.

natural gas is fine, but the envirowackos are raising hell about getting it by fracking----of course as usual they know nothing about it.

Problem is clean coal isn't exactly clean and the process to even produce clean coal with it's flaws raises the cost of coal.

The Myth of Clean Coal: Analysis
The Myth of Clean Coal: Analysis - Popular Mechanics

Exposing the Myth of Clean Coal Power
Exposing the Myth of Clean Coal Power - TIME

So clean coal is a noble move but it has been perfected and adds to the price of coal, thusly making it not such a cheap choice for energy. Clean coal needs more work,

sure it needs more work, my question is why not work on it? We have billions of tons of coal, we have billions of cubic feet of natural gas, we have billions of barrels of oil. We could easily be energy self sufficient. But obama does not want that. He says he does but then everything he does makes us remain dependent on the mid east muslims. Do you ever wonder why?

I have no problem with the continued development of clean coal at all. I just wanted to point out that clean coal at this point (pardon the pun) is a smoke screen.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Coal, Natural Gas, and Crude all continue to come under attack with radical changes. Personally, I am not married to any form of energy. If and when water, wind, and sun can sustain or "fuel" a viable economy, I am all for it. You cannot cease current sources of energy without the economy hemorrhaging; unless of course, this is your ultimate goal.

I have yet to see an alternative energy advocate come up with a viable plan that will transition the US economy to proven energy sources besides coal, gas, or crude. Blindly throwing hundreds of millions of US taxpayer dollars to cronies in California towards immature technology while simultaneously appeasing a radical leftist base by demonizing and attacking current energy sources is not going to help the US taxpayer's energy bills.

 

[bripat9643]

yes, folks, we have a WINNER-------the DUMB POST OF THE DAY AWARD Congratulations, dumb ass

OK, ol' Fishy, this is only one of several studies that have unequivacably linked the emissions from coal fired plants to autism and asthma. The dumb poster here is you. You present flap-yap, with zero to back it up.

Coal is going the way of buggy whips. And a good thing. One only has to look at the environmental damage done by the mountain top removal to see why this should be terminated. Coal has been a disaster for environment and people's health from the git-go.

clean coal technology is available now. why not use it?

When the libtards refer to "clean coal," they mean technology for burning coal that doesn't produce any CO2. That technology currently isn't feasible and it never will be.

The latest coal fired power plants are as clean as they need to be. They don't produce emissions of toxic substances sufficient to affect anyone's health in any way. Coal is already clean.

 

[Wyatt earp]

What a guy for the people eh? you people should be ASHAMED you put this uncaring man upon us
links in article at site

SNIP:
‘War on coal’ is war on poor



By

The Washington Times

Tuesday, July 2, 2013


Democrats like President Obama and Terry McAuliffe like to portray themselves as champions of lower-income Virginians. But Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli has nailed it by pointing out that their “war on coal” (as an Obama adviser has described it) is really a war on the poor (“Obama climate adviser urges ‘war on coal,’” Web, June 25).

Mr. Obama’s new rules would essentially end the use of coal in power plants and manufacturing, a goal shared by Mr. McAuliffe, who has said that as governor he wouldn’t want another coal plant built in the state. That would all but shutter many southwest Virginia communities, destroying low- and middle-income jobs not only in the coal industry but also in stores, restaurants, car dealerships and other services in those towns.


Read more: 'War on coal' is war on poor - Washington Times
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I see. You're defending the poor on this thread, where as elsewhere they are leaches and lazy.
Does the linked article deal with the healthcare aspects of these poor folks? And are they the most likely to suffer the healthcare effects of coal? (Yes.)

Nah, I think he is against Obamas trickle up poor ideology. I guess the left stopped defending Obamas campaign promise on no tax hikes on the poor and middle class

 

[Redfish]

OK, ol' Fishy, this is only one of several studies that have unequivacably linked the emissions from coal fired plants to autism and asthma. The dumb poster here is you. You present flap-yap, with zero to back it up.

Coal is going the way of buggy whips. And a good thing. One only has to look at the environmental damage done by the mountain top removal to see why this should be terminated. Coal has been a disaster for environment and people's health from the git-go.

clean coal technology is available now. why not use it?

When the libtards refer to "clean coal," they mean technology for burning coal that doesn't produce any CO2. That technology currently isn't feasible and it never will be.

The latest coal fired power plants are as clean as they need to be. They don't produce emissions of toxic substances sufficient to affect anyone's health in any way. Coal is already clean.

yes, I know. liberals believe that human beings are pollutants and should be remove from mother earth.

 

[Lakhota]

Even China is learning that coal is a killer.

China Air Pollution Study Claims Coal Burning May Have Shortened Residents' Lifespans

 

[bripat9643]

Even China is learning that coal is a killer.

China Air Pollution Study Claims Coal Burning May Have Shortened Residents' Lifespans

Name one person who has died in this country from burning coal.