The next Republican President hasn't been born yet

[Rustic]

It must suck living in a "blue" state, having to let politicians crawling up your a$$es when they see fit.

Hashtag anally violated

 

[Redfish]

All true, except that republicans did not "abandon" the HIspanic vote.

We just can't compete for Third World votes against the party of Third World policies.

We have tried and will continue to try, but as already demonstrated, actions and policies don't matter.

George W Bush got 40% of the Hispanic vote
McCain and Romney got less than 30%

It is the tilt of the Republican Party and anti-immigrant/anti- hispanic rhetoric that is driving them away

The republican party is NOT anti-immigration or anti-hispanic. It is anti-ILLEGAL immigration and pro-hispanic. You do realize that Rubio and Cruz are hispanic don't you.

Which of the 5 dem candidates is hispanic, black, young, or in any way diverse?

Republicans just don't get it

They think if they run a black man, they will get the black vote
They think if they run a hispanic, they will get the hispanic vote

Blacks and Hispanics are not fools, they know Republican policies are hostile to them

which policies? give us a list of republican "policies" that are hostile to blacks and hispanics.

no talking points or liberal bullshit, give us a specific list of policies supported by the republican candidates for president that are hostile to those groups.

Where are your papers laws, English as an official language laws, blocking the Dream act, stonewalling immigration reform

Above that is the rhetoric coming out of not only Republican leaders, but the rightwing media and even those who post on boards like this

A black or Hispanic would ask....why would I want to be in the same party as THOSE people?

papers laws? WTF

English is the official language of the USA, just as German is the official language or germany or spanish the official language of Mexico. What exactly is the problem with that?

giving citizenship benefits to people who entered the country illegally is wrong, no other country in the world would even think of such a thing.

Immigration reform bills have been put up by the GOP, Obama refused to deal with them. There is a difference between immigration reform and amnesty. Do you know the difference?

Blacks and hispanics identify with the GOP because they believe in freedom and equal opportunity and are fed up with the failures of democrat socialism.

 

[bedowin62]

All true, except that republicans did not "abandon" the HIspanic vote.

We just can't compete for Third World votes against the party of Third World policies.

We have tried and will continue to try, but as already demonstrated, actions and policies don't matter.

George W Bush got 40% of the Hispanic vote
McCain and Romney got less than 30%

It is the tilt of the Republican Party and anti-immigrant/anti- hispanic rhetoric that is driving them away

The republican party is NOT anti-immigration or anti-hispanic. It is anti-ILLEGAL immigration and pro-hispanic. You do realize that Rubio and Cruz are hispanic don't you.

Which of the 5 dem candidates is hispanic, black, young, or in any way diverse?

Republicans just don't get it

They think if they run a black man, they will get the black vote
They think if they run a hispanic, they will get the hispanic vote

Blacks and Hispanics are not fools, they know Republican policies are hostile to them

which policies? give us a list of republican "policies" that are hostile to blacks and hispanics.

no talking points or liberal bullshit, give us a specific list of policies supported by the republican candidates for president that are hostile to those groups.

Where are your papers laws, English as an official language laws, blocking the Dream act, stonewalling immigration reform

Above that is the rhetoric coming out of not only Republican leaders, but the rightwing media and even those who post on boards like this

A black or Hispanic would ask....why would I want to be in the same party as THOSE people?

granting amnesty to more than 12 million mostly Hispanic illegals is going to benefit Black Americans in their communities how again idiot???

 

[bedowin62]

English only laws will harm black people exactly how leftard??

be careful now!! lol

 

[Misty]

Sounds like flippant Democratic bragging

But the current breakout of Red States/Blue States gives the Democrats a huge advantage. Bush struggled to reach 270 EVs and needed to nearly sweep swing states to make it
Both sides do not start the election with a clean slate. The Dems start with 242 EV while the Republicans only control 192. To win, Democrats only need to get 28 EVs out of the remaining swing state votes
Even the swing states are starting to lean blue.

I doubt if I will ever see another Republican President in my lifetime

From Gallup.

• Conservatives remain largest ideological group, at 38%

Good stat

And how do Conservatives treat the other 62% who are not conservative

24% identify as liberals so your op is not valid.

Conservatism is bigger than liberalism.

 

[bedowin62]

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[Redfish]

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Would these liberal clowns go to Spain and demand that "press 2 for english" be mandated by law?

 

[Dot Com]

I see conservatard65 has derailed this thread into one about race. Surprised. I think I'll start referring to him as "Tank II"

BACK TO TOPIC:

Teapubs inability to field an electable Presidential candidate.

Discuss.....

The reason for the OP is demographic shift.

As RW discussed in the first post after the OP.

This is not derailing the thread, this is what the thread was about from the beginning.

You saying the African American birthrate demographic has shifted enough to make a diff for Repubs? Hispanics perhaps but not African Americans, which your racist rw friend is derailing the thread talking about because its all he does in any thread.

 

[Dot Com]

Sounds like flippant Democratic bragging

But the current breakout of Red States/Blue States gives the Democrats a huge advantage. Bush struggled to reach 270 EVs and needed to nearly sweep swing states to make it
Both sides do not start the election with a clean slate. The Dems start with 242 EV while the Republicans only control 192. To win, Democrats only need to get 28 EVs out of the remaining swing state votes
Even the swing states are starting to lean blue.

I doubt if I will ever see another Republican President in my lifetime

Well I will say this... IF your premise is correct, there will never be another Republican president. If the current chasm in the GOP is not resolved in a way which leads to a decisive victory over the Socialists, we may not ever have another elected president. Our sovereignty is on the way to being lost due to illegal immigration.

The GOP is currently sharply divided between those who want to maintain status quo "moderatism" and avoid taking bold stands on principles and values, and those who have a clear conservative philosophy that is constantly under attack. It remains to be seen which "side" will ultimately prevail in the nomination process but if the GOP goes with another "moderate" like McCain or Romney, this will spell the demise of the GOP as a viable political party. They will simply go the way of the Whigs who suffered the same 'paralysis of thought' on the issues of the day.

Reagan said, we have to paint our message in bold colors and no pale pastels. The current top two front-runners in the GOP race are non-politician leaders who are not tied to the establishment GOP. That should be sounding alarm bells for the elite Republican establishment. The party is literally redefining itself.

Any preconceptions you have that the 2016 election will be a matter of Republicans winning over swing states from the last election, are simply goofy and ignorant of American politics and presidential election history.

The rebranding of Republicans will do even worse in the swing states which tend to go moderate. The "I'm more conservative than you" brinksmanship of the current GOP will turn off moderate voters. In the absence of a moderate Republican, a moderate Democrat will do

A moderate Republican will continue the policies that will lead to the One Party State.


I can see why you want that.

Actually, I can't.

I can't see why you would put your partisan interests over that of the nation as a whole.

Tell the Repub Party & its different manifestations (currently the Teapub Party) that. They been doing it for the last 30+ years

 

[bedowin62]

Sounds like flippant Democratic bragging

But the current breakout of Red States/Blue States gives the Democrats a huge advantage. Bush struggled to reach 270 EVs and needed to nearly sweep swing states to make it
Both sides do not start the election with a clean slate. The Dems start with 242 EV while the Republicans only control 192. To win, Democrats only need to get 28 EVs out of the remaining swing state votes
Even the swing states are starting to lean blue.

I doubt if I will ever see another Republican President in my lifetime

Well I will say this... IF your premise is correct, there will never be another Republican president. If the current chasm in the GOP is not resolved in a way which leads to a decisive victory over the Socialists, we may not ever have another elected president. Our sovereignty is on the way to being lost due to illegal immigration.

The GOP is currently sharply divided between those who want to maintain status quo "moderatism" and avoid taking bold stands on principles and values, and those who have a clear conservative philosophy that is constantly under attack. It remains to be seen which "side" will ultimately prevail in the nomination process but if the GOP goes with another "moderate" like McCain or Romney, this will spell the demise of the GOP as a viable political party. They will simply go the way of the Whigs who suffered the same 'paralysis of thought' on the issues of the day.

Reagan said, we have to paint our message in bold colors and no pale pastels. The current top two front-runners in the GOP race are non-politician leaders who are not tied to the establishment GOP. That should be sounding alarm bells for the elite Republican establishment. The party is literally redefining itself.

Any preconceptions you have that the 2016 election will be a matter of Republicans winning over swing states from the last election, are simply goofy and ignorant of American politics and presidential election history.

The rebranding of Republicans will do even worse in the swing states which tend to go moderate. The "I'm more conservative than you" brinksmanship of the current GOP will turn off moderate voters. In the absence of a moderate Republican, a moderate Democrat will do

A moderate Republican will continue the policies that will lead to the One Party State.


I can see why you want that.

Actually, I can't.

I can't see why you would put your partisan interests over that of the nation as a whole.

Tell the Teapub Party that. They been doing it for the last 30+ years

YAWN

imagine you being able to think for yourself.

yea me neither

 

[JakeStarkey]

Sounds like flippant Democratic bragging

But the current breakout of Red States/Blue States gives the Democrats a huge advantage. Bush struggled to reach 270 EVs and needed to nearly sweep swing states to make it
Both sides do not start the election with a clean slate. The Dems start with 242 EV while the Republicans only control 192. To win, Democrats only need to get 28 EVs out of the remaining swing state votes
Even the swing states are starting to lean blue.

I doubt if I will ever see another Republican President in my lifetime

From Gallup.

• Conservatives remain largest ideological group, at 38%

Good stat

And how do Conservatives treat the other 62% who are not conservative

Speaking as one who is not conservative, they treat me a hell of a lot better than the "liberals" do since at least they aren't constantly trying to stick their hands in my wallet.......

Your a libertarian. You guys complain no one treats you well.

 

[rightwinger]

George W Bush got 40% of the Hispanic vote
McCain and Romney got less than 30%

It is the tilt of the Republican Party and anti-immigrant/anti- hispanic rhetoric that is driving them away

The republican party is NOT anti-immigration or anti-hispanic. It is anti-ILLEGAL immigration and pro-hispanic. You do realize that Rubio and Cruz are hispanic don't you.

Which of the 5 dem candidates is hispanic, black, young, or in any way diverse?

Republicans just don't get it

They think if they run a black man, they will get the black vote
They think if they run a hispanic, they will get the hispanic vote

Blacks and Hispanics are not fools, they know Republican policies are hostile to them

WTF????

can you beleve what this idiot just posted??????????????????????????????

these are the people whose very own Party ideology INSISTS the the only way to really see "progress" on race matters is by MORE MINORITY REPRESENTATION.

BUT NOW that they offer only old, rich White people for candidates for President this idiot mindlessly and breathlessly ignores HIS OWN PARTY'S IDEOLOGY IN PLACE FOR DECADES!

there is nothing, no position brainwashed left-wing HYPOCRITES wont change with the wind.

Until Republicans actually support policies that help minority communities, they will lose the minority vote

Simple isn't it?

yes simple; so tell us all what they are. you cant and you wont. because you will prove they are all pandering and almost none of them anything BUT pandering on the basis of race more than they are substantive

Policies such as affirmative action, head start, minority business initiatives, educational assistance, jobs programs directed at minority communities, safety net programs

ALL opposed and continually attacked by Republicans

 

[JakeStarkey]

24% identify as liberals so your op is not valid.
Conservatism is bigger than liberalism.

If the liberals are treating the other 38% of the non-libs better than the cons, they do just fine. Five of the last six presidential popular votes reflect that. And the swing states tend to purples and bluish.

 

[Redfish]

24% identify as liberals so your op is not valid.
Conservatism is bigger than liberalism.

If the liberals are treating the other 38% of the non-libs better than the cons, they do just fine. Five of the last six presidential popular votes reflect that. And the swing states tend to purples and bluish.

keep the dream alive. live in fantasy land. enjoy!

 

[rightwinger]

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Would these liberal clowns go to Spain and demand that "press 2 for english" be mandated by law?

Government has an obligation to communicate with the people that it serves. They should communicate in the language that those people understand

 

[bedowin62]

The republican party is NOT anti-immigration or anti-hispanic. It is anti-ILLEGAL immigration and pro-hispanic. You do realize that Rubio and Cruz are hispanic don't you.

Which of the 5 dem candidates is hispanic, black, young, or in any way diverse?

Republicans just don't get it

They think if they run a black man, they will get the black vote
They think if they run a hispanic, they will get the hispanic vote

Blacks and Hispanics are not fools, they know Republican policies are hostile to them

WTF????

can you beleve what this idiot just posted??????????????????????????????

these are the people whose very own Party ideology INSISTS the the only way to really see "progress" on race matters is by MORE MINORITY REPRESENTATION.

BUT NOW that they offer only old, rich White people for candidates for President this idiot mindlessly and breathlessly ignores HIS OWN PARTY'S IDEOLOGY IN PLACE FOR DECADES!

there is nothing, no position brainwashed left-wing HYPOCRITES wont change with the wind.

Until Republicans actually support policies that help minority communities, they will lose the minority vote

Simple isn't it?

yes simple; so tell us all what they are. you cant and you wont. because you will prove they are all pandering and almost none of them anything BUT pandering on the basis of race more than they are substantive

Policies such as affirmative action, head start, minority business initiatives, educational assistance, jobs programs directed at minority communities, safety net programs

ALL opposed and continually attacked by Republicans

maybe because they dont work idiot?

all those programs; why is Black unemployment about TWICE White unemployment for DECADES RUNNING now??

 

[Correll]

Only among the females of the far right wing, and almost every last one of them would favor Carson over Trump. In the mainstream of the party, the polls go way down. In a national election, Carson will do a bit better with both than Trump, who will do very badly.

I understand that that is your dream, but it may very well become a nightmare for you. Can you say President Trump?

Sure, but I don't think that will happen. If he becomes president, he is our president. Can you do the same for any of the Dems if one becomes president?

sure, but I don't think that will happen. Does obama consider himself as "our president" ? We both know that he doesn't.

That type of post is evidence of what I mean: you live in other world. OK.

Nope, I live in the real world. The one where anyone who dares disagree with the kenyan messiah is demonized and trashed by the left wing media. The same media that put on that sham of a debate last night.

But let me ask you again. Do you really think that obama considers himself as the president of all americans, even the ones that disagree with him? Has he done anything to look for common ground with the other side? Has he tried to compromise on any of the major issues facing the country? The answers are No, and if you are honest you will admit that. If you are dishonest, then---------------------------------

He has defined US as his enemy.

 

[bedowin62]

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Would these liberal clowns go to Spain and demand that "press 2 for english" be mandated by law?

Government has an obligation to communicate with the people that it serves. They should communicate in the language that those people understand

you're making a fool of yourself, like you always do

about 100 of the planet's nations recognize English is important enough to give it official language status. why cant we?

 

[Redfish]

The republican party is NOT anti-immigration or anti-hispanic. It is anti-ILLEGAL immigration and pro-hispanic. You do realize that Rubio and Cruz are hispanic don't you.

Which of the 5 dem candidates is hispanic, black, young, or in any way diverse?

Republicans just don't get it

They think if they run a black man, they will get the black vote
They think if they run a hispanic, they will get the hispanic vote

Blacks and Hispanics are not fools, they know Republican policies are hostile to them

WTF????

can you beleve what this idiot just posted??????????????????????????????

these are the people whose very own Party ideology INSISTS the the only way to really see "progress" on race matters is by MORE MINORITY REPRESENTATION.

BUT NOW that they offer only old, rich White people for candidates for President this idiot mindlessly and breathlessly ignores HIS OWN PARTY'S IDEOLOGY IN PLACE FOR DECADES!

there is nothing, no position brainwashed left-wing HYPOCRITES wont change with the wind.

Until Republicans actually support policies that help minority communities, they will lose the minority vote

Simple isn't it?

yes simple; so tell us all what they are. you cant and you wont. because you will prove they are all pandering and almost none of them anything BUT pandering on the basis of race more than they are substantive

Policies such as affirmative action, head start, minority business initiatives, educational assistance, jobs programs directed at minority communities, safety net programs

ALL opposed and continually attacked by Republicans

The sad thing is that none of those lib policies have worked. Trillions have been spent and nothing has changed. minority unemployment rates are higher than ever under obozo, minority education has not improved, nothing is better. Obama and liberalism have failed, deal with it.

 

[bedowin62]

The republican party is NOT anti-immigration or anti-hispanic. It is anti-ILLEGAL immigration and pro-hispanic. You do realize that Rubio and Cruz are hispanic don't you.

Which of the 5 dem candidates is hispanic, black, young, or in any way diverse?

Republicans just don't get it

They think if they run a black man, they will get the black vote
They think if they run a hispanic, they will get the hispanic vote

Blacks and Hispanics are not fools, they know Republican policies are hostile to them

WTF????

can you beleve what this idiot just posted??????????????????????????????

these are the people whose very own Party ideology INSISTS the the only way to really see "progress" on race matters is by MORE MINORITY REPRESENTATION.

BUT NOW that they offer only old, rich White people for candidates for President this idiot mindlessly and breathlessly ignores HIS OWN PARTY'S IDEOLOGY IN PLACE FOR DECADES!

there is nothing, no position brainwashed left-wing HYPOCRITES wont change with the wind.

Until Republicans actually support policies that help minority communities, they will lose the minority vote

Simple isn't it?

yes simple; so tell us all what they are. you cant and you wont. because you will prove they are all pandering and almost none of them anything BUT pandering on the basis of race more than they are substantive

Policies such as affirmative action, head start, minority business initiatives, educational assistance, jobs programs directed at minority communities, safety net programs

ALL opposed and continually attacked by Republicans

all? really idiot? you can back that up right/?

how about the Supreme Court which has made decisions that some of those programs are un-constitutional??