The next Republican President hasn't been born yet

[rightwinger]

The next Republican President hasn't been born yet

How can that be possible?

Right now, Republicans have an extremely low chance of getting 270 electoral votes when Dems start with 242 and Repubs start at 179. Republicans have to pitch a perfect game and I don't think they have it in them

But why would they not be able to elect a President for the next 40-50 years?

Because demographics are leaving them behind. Rather than moving to take back swing states, they will be fighting to retain Red States, Surging Hispanic populations and Republicans abandoning the Hispanic vote will cost them Florida within the next decade. Georgia and North Carolina with large black populations could go blue also within the next decade
Texas and Arizona will take longer. Texas will be over 50% Hispanic within ten years but will probably take 20-25 years to go blue ....same with Arizona

When that happens, Dems will not start with 242 electoral votes, they will start with 325-350 and the race will be over before it begins

All true, except that republicans did not "abandon" the HIspanic vote.

We just can't compete for Third World votes against the party of Third World policies.

We have tried and will continue to try, but as already demonstrated, actions and policies don't matter.

George W Bush got 40% of the Hispanic vote
McCain and Romney got less than 30%

It is the tilt of the Republican Party and anti-immigrant/anti- hispanic rhetoric that is driving them away

The republican party is NOT anti-immigration or anti-hispanic. It is anti-ILLEGAL immigration and pro-hispanic. You do realize that Rubio and Cruz are hispanic don't you.

Which of the 5 dem candidates is hispanic, black, young, or in any way diverse?

Republicans just don't get it

They think if they run a black man, they will get the black vote
They think if they run a hispanic, they will get the hispanic vote

Blacks and Hispanics are not fools, they know Republican policies are hostile to them

I think most republicans do NOT think that.

We have seen plenty of examples of black or hispanic republicans being ignored.


When we support black or hispanic candidates we do it because we like them as candidates, not because of skin color.

Can you point to a black or hispanic Republican who has advocated helping minority communities? They all embrace the callous Republican views of....Get a job, your struggles are not my problem

 

[Misty]

WTF????

can you beleve what this idiot just posted??????????????????????????????

these are the people whose very own Party ideology INSISTS the the only way to really see "progress" on race matters is by MORE MINORITY REPRESENTATION.

BUT NOW that they offer only old, rich White people for candidates for President this idiot mindlessly and breathlessly ignores HIS OWN PARTY'S IDEOLOGY IN PLACE FOR DECADES!

there is nothing, no position brainwashed left-wing HYPOCRITES wont change with the wind.

Until Republicans actually support policies that help minority communities, they will lose the minority vote

Simple isn't it?

yes simple; so tell us all what they are. you cant and you wont. because you will prove they are all pandering and almost none of them anything BUT pandering on the basis of race more than they are substantive

Policies such as affirmative action, head start, minority business initiatives, educational assistance, jobs programs directed at minority communities, safety net programs

ALL opposed and continually attacked by Republicans

maybe because they dont work idiot?

all those programs; why is Black unemployment about TWICE White unemployment for DECADES RUNNING now??

Of course they work

Affirmative action has been a major success, jobs and educational programs have helped millions of minorities....even Ben Carson

Carson had a great grade point average and the highest SAT scores in Detroit and was thrilled when he was accepted at Yale. He thought it was because of his hard work and intellect.

But he was disappointed to learn it was because of affirmative action. He felt completely deflated.

 

[G.T.]

You lefties win one freaking Presidential election and then a re-election which was AFTER A REPUBLICAN had the office for eight years before this puke Obama. And you think you are the hottest stuff around and all the people is in love love love with you and your nasty brand.

well go back and look at the TWO midterm Elections under that thug Obama and you'll see what the people think of you. you're just lucky they couldn't vote out Obama too or they probably would have. Your losers running for President are falling on their face where they can't even give tickets away to come to one of their clown shows. but you go on and live in your dream world. just stop spreading it all over us.

"all the people is"

are steph, it's are. Lolllll

 

[rightwinger]

Until Republicans actually support policies that help minority communities, they will lose the minority vote

Simple isn't it?

yes simple; so tell us all what they are. you cant and you wont. because you will prove they are all pandering and almost none of them anything BUT pandering on the basis of race more than they are substantive

Policies such as affirmative action, head start, minority business initiatives, educational assistance, jobs programs directed at minority communities, safety net programs

ALL opposed and continually attacked by Republicans

maybe because they dont work idiot?

all those programs; why is Black unemployment about TWICE White unemployment for DECADES RUNNING now??

Of course they work

Affirmative action has been a major success, jobs and educational programs have helped millions of minorities....even Ben Carson

so do you admit we have an affirmative action president then leftard????

inquiring minds want to know!

By all means

Both Obama and Hillary have benefitted from afirmative action

When they were born 50-60 years ago, opportunities for blacks or women were limited. Blacks were considered best suited for menial labor and women looked to find a good husband

Affirmative action opened up paths to success in college and the professions. Neither had much of a chance to get into Harvard or gaining high political office a generation before they were born

 

[Correll]

The next Republican President hasn't been born yet

How can that be possible?

Right now, Republicans have an extremely low chance of getting 270 electoral votes when Dems start with 242 and Repubs start at 179. Republicans have to pitch a perfect game and I don't think they have it in them

But why would they not be able to elect a President for the next 40-50 years?

Because demographics are leaving them behind. Rather than moving to take back swing states, they will be fighting to retain Red States, Surging Hispanic populations and Republicans abandoning the Hispanic vote will cost them Florida within the next decade. Georgia and North Carolina with large black populations could go blue also within the next decade
Texas and Arizona will take longer. Texas will be over 50% Hispanic within ten years but will probably take 20-25 years to go blue ....same with Arizona

When that happens, Dems will not start with 242 electoral votes, they will start with 325-350 and the race will be over before it begins

All true, except that republicans did not "abandon" the HIspanic vote.

We just can't compete for Third World votes against the party of Third World policies.

We have tried and will continue to try, but as already demonstrated, actions and policies don't matter.

George W Bush got 40% of the Hispanic vote
McCain and Romney got less than 30%

It is the tilt of the Republican Party and anti-immigrant/anti- hispanic rhetoric that is driving them away

Perhaps. GW was pretty pro-immigrant and wanted amnesty.

Then again so was McCain.

On the other hand, if we as Americans are going to craft policy to serve the interests of Americans, we HAVE TO reduce immigration and especially Third World immigration.

If the HIspanic vote and the Balance of Power in our society has become such that wanting to craft policy to serve the interests of Americans, means that you cannot win elections,

Then we, as a nation are screwed.

And I agree, that is where we are at.

Good for the Democratic Party, bad for everyone else.

We got to this point, btw, because we were never able to have a serious and honest discussion on what the immigration policy meant for the interests of Americans.

Thanks to the constant use of the Race Card by the Left.

I disagree with your fear of immigration

This country has always had immigrants and Conservatives always fear mongered about each wave of Irish, Chinese, Polish, Italian or eastern European immigrants

They will take jobs from "real" Americans
They are all criminals
They bring disease
They don't speak the language

Some things never change

YOu are claiming that the reason that the GOP is losing the Hispanic vote is the anti-immigration and "anti-hispanic" rhetoric.

Why would the Hispanics vote as a bloc on that basis?

Because they are naturally smarter than the rest of the electorate and agree with you?

Or because they are more loyal to their fellow Hispanics who want to come here than to their fellow citizens?

We may be or will soon be in a situation where having a platform of policy designed to serve the interests of American citizens bars you from winning elections.

Once we are past that point, if we aren't yet, it will be too late to avoid the One Party State scenario.

So, how do you think One Party America will be?

Happy? Prosperous? Peaceful?

 

[bedowin62]

yes simple; so tell us all what they are. you cant and you wont. because you will prove they are all pandering and almost none of them anything BUT pandering on the basis of race more than they are substantive

Policies such as affirmative action, head start, minority business initiatives, educational assistance, jobs programs directed at minority communities, safety net programs

ALL opposed and continually attacked by Republicans

maybe because they dont work idiot?

all those programs; why is Black unemployment about TWICE White unemployment for DECADES RUNNING now??

Of course they work

Affirmative action has been a major success, jobs and educational programs have helped millions of minorities....even Ben Carson

so do you admit we have an affirmative action president then leftard????

inquiring minds want to know!

By all means

Both Obama and Hillary have benefitted from afirmative action

When they were born 50-60 years ago, opportunities for blacks or women were limited. Blacks were considered best suited for menial labor and women looked to find a good husband

Affirmative action opened up paths to success in college and the professions. Neither had much of a chance to get into Harvard or gaining high political office a generation before they were born

great dummy! and obama is a failure; so what makes you defend these programs??

 

[bedowin62]

All true, except that republicans did not "abandon" the HIspanic vote.

We just can't compete for Third World votes against the party of Third World policies.

We have tried and will continue to try, but as already demonstrated, actions and policies don't matter.

George W Bush got 40% of the Hispanic vote
McCain and Romney got less than 30%

It is the tilt of the Republican Party and anti-immigrant/anti- hispanic rhetoric that is driving them away

The republican party is NOT anti-immigration or anti-hispanic. It is anti-ILLEGAL immigration and pro-hispanic. You do realize that Rubio and Cruz are hispanic don't you.

Which of the 5 dem candidates is hispanic, black, young, or in any way diverse?

Republicans just don't get it

They think if they run a black man, they will get the black vote
They think if they run a hispanic, they will get the hispanic vote

Blacks and Hispanics are not fools, they know Republican policies are hostile to them

I think most republicans do NOT think that.

We have seen plenty of examples of black or hispanic republicans being ignored.


When we support black or hispanic candidates we do it because we like them as candidates, not because of skin color.

Can you point to a black or hispanic Republican who has advocated helping minority communities? They all embrace the callous Republican views of....Get a job, your struggles are not my problem

i can find dozens; as opposed to your asinine claim that Republicans oppose "ALL" OF those programs

 

[bedowin62]

do you feel Black people cant survive without program specially designed for them in this day and age?

Rightwinger; you're White arent you????

 

[bedowin62]

I see conservatard65 has derailed this thread into one about race. Surprised. I think I'll start referring to him as "Tank II"

BACK TO TOPIC:

Teapubs inability to field an electable Presidential candidate.

Discuss.....

The reason for the OP is demographic shift.

As RW discussed in the first post after the OP.

This is not derailing the thread, this is what the thread was about from the beginning.

You saying the African American birthrate demographic has shifted enough to make a diff for Repubs? Hispanics perhaps but not African Americans, which your racist rw friend is derailing the thread talking about because its all he does in any thread.

again calling people racist and you have absolutely nothing to back up the slur

ur a loser; and so are YOUR lw friends

 

[JakeStarkey]

He has defined US as his enemy.

Correll and Redfish have declared they are the enemies of America. They are among the TP that make up about 15% of the electorate. Doesn't matter what they think: they are growing older as a group and are dying out. TP preaching is abhorred by millennials. Once again, the numbers condemn the far right.

Wrong again, snakey. we are the majority. your liberal ideas have failed and are being rejected by young americans. we tried liberalism for 60 or more years and it failed. the people know that. Time to return to sanity.

Nope you are not and you know it, or BHO would not have dominated the scene for seven years. Time for you guys to go away.

 

[JakeStarkey]

George W Bush got 40% of the Hispanic vote
McCain and Romney got less than 30%

It is the tilt of the Republican Party and anti-immigrant/anti- hispanic rhetoric that is driving them away

The republican party is NOT anti-immigration or anti-hispanic. It is anti-ILLEGAL immigration and pro-hispanic. You do realize that Rubio and Cruz are hispanic don't you.

Which of the 5 dem candidates is hispanic, black, young, or in any way diverse?

Republicans just don't get it

They think if they run a black man, they will get the black vote
They think if they run a hispanic, they will get the hispanic vote

Blacks and Hispanics are not fools, they know Republican policies are hostile to them

WTF????

can you beleve what this idiot just posted??????????????????????????????

these are the people whose very own Party ideology INSISTS the the only way to really see "progress" on race matters is by MORE MINORITY REPRESENTATION.

BUT NOW that they offer only old, rich White people for candidates for President this idiot mindlessly and breathlessly ignores HIS OWN PARTY'S IDEOLOGY IN PLACE FOR DECADES!

there is nothing, no position brainwashed left-wing HYPOCRITES wont change with the wind.

Until Republicans actually support policies that help minority communities, they will lose the minority vote

Simple isn't it?

I already demonstrated that that wasn't true with the 88 and 92 presidential elections.

And we can do it again, just not to the far right.

 

[rightwinger]

George W Bush got 40% of the Hispanic vote
McCain and Romney got less than 30%

It is the tilt of the Republican Party and anti-immigrant/anti- hispanic rhetoric that is driving them away

The republican party is NOT anti-immigration or anti-hispanic. It is anti-ILLEGAL immigration and pro-hispanic. You do realize that Rubio and Cruz are hispanic don't you.

Which of the 5 dem candidates is hispanic, black, young, or in any way diverse?

Republicans just don't get it

They think if they run a black man, they will get the black vote
They think if they run a hispanic, they will get the hispanic vote

Blacks and Hispanics are not fools, they know Republican policies are hostile to them

I think most republicans do NOT think that.

We have seen plenty of examples of black or hispanic republicans being ignored.


When we support black or hispanic candidates we do it because we like them as candidates, not because of skin color.

Can you point to a black or hispanic Republican who has advocated helping minority communities? They all embrace the callous Republican views of....Get a job, your struggles are not my problem

i can find dozens; as opposed to your asinine claim that Republicans oppose "ALL" OF those programs

Please do

Start with the 2012 Republican Party Platform and how many initiatives are targeted at helping the rich vs helping poor communities

 

[rightwinger]

do you feel Black people cant survive without program specially designed for them in this day and age?

Rightwinger; you're White arent you????

I think we need programs that help people who need helping

We need to target programs not just to urban minority communities but to rural white communities that are being left behind in the economic recovery

 

[bedowin62]

He has defined US as his enemy.

Correll and Redfish have declared they are the enemies of America. They are among the TP that make up about 15% of the electorate. Doesn't matter what they think: they are growing older as a group and are dying out. TP preaching is abhorred by millennials. Once again, the numbers condemn the far right.

Wrong again, snakey. we are the majority. your liberal ideas have failed and are being rejected by young americans. we tried liberalism for 60 or more years and it failed. the people know that. Time to return to sanity.

Nope you are not and you know it, or BHO would not have dominated the scene for seven years. Time for you guys to go away.

HOUSE, SENATE AND 30 GOVERNOR'S SEATS

how is making us go away working out?

 

[bedowin62]

do you feel Black people cant survive without program specially designed for them in this day and age?

Rightwinger; you're White arent you????

I think we need programs that help people who need helping

We need to target programs not just to urban minority communities but to rural white communities that are being left behind in the economic recovery

well then you just negated your own argument against Republicans who oppose race-based programs

thanks!

 

[bedowin62]

The republican party is NOT anti-immigration or anti-hispanic. It is anti-ILLEGAL immigration and pro-hispanic. You do realize that Rubio and Cruz are hispanic don't you.

Which of the 5 dem candidates is hispanic, black, young, or in any way diverse?

Republicans just don't get it

They think if they run a black man, they will get the black vote
They think if they run a hispanic, they will get the hispanic vote

Blacks and Hispanics are not fools, they know Republican policies are hostile to them

I think most republicans do NOT think that.

We have seen plenty of examples of black or hispanic republicans being ignored.


When we support black or hispanic candidates we do it because we like them as candidates, not because of skin color.

Can you point to a black or hispanic Republican who has advocated helping minority communities? They all embrace the callous Republican views of....Get a job, your struggles are not my problem

i can find dozens; as opposed to your asinine claim that Republicans oppose "ALL" OF those programs

Please do

Start with the 2012 Republican Party Platform and how many initiatives are targeted at helping the rich vs helping poor communities

the poor had more, the richest had less when Republicans ran things..

ironic isnt it?
reality is a bitch for left-wingers

 

[rightwinger]

Republicans just don't get it

They think if they run a black man, they will get the black vote
They think if they run a hispanic, they will get the hispanic vote

Blacks and Hispanics are not fools, they know Republican policies are hostile to them

I think most republicans do NOT think that.

We have seen plenty of examples of black or hispanic republicans being ignored.


When we support black or hispanic candidates we do it because we like them as candidates, not because of skin color.

Can you point to a black or hispanic Republican who has advocated helping minority communities? They all embrace the callous Republican views of....Get a job, your struggles are not my problem

i can find dozens; as opposed to your asinine claim that Republicans oppose "ALL" OF those programs

Please do

Start with the 2012 Republican Party Platform and how many initiatives are targeted at helping the rich vs helping poor communities

the poor had more, the richest had less when Republicans ran things..

ironic isnt it?
reality is a bitch for left-wingers

30 year trends are a bitch aren't they?

Now...guess who took over in 1981 and 2001?

 

[Dot Com]

He has defined US as his enemy.

Correll and Redfish have declared they are the enemies of America. They are among the TP that make up about 15% of the electorate. Doesn't matter what they think: they are growing older as a group and are dying out. TP preaching is abhorred by millennials. Once again, the numbers condemn the far right.

anyone who refers to the President as "Obozo" is a mouth-breathing, rw hate media listening, hack as well

 

[Dot Com]

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Would these liberal clowns go to Spain and demand that "press 2 for english" be mandated by law?

Government has an obligation to communicate with the people that it serves. They should communicate in the language that those people understand

Wrong, if you want to be an american, learn english. The early immigrants did just that and achieved success.

Tell that to all the Repub voters of Cuban descent in Fla dummy

 

[Correll]

I see conservatard65 has derailed this thread into one about race. Surprised. I think I'll start referring to him as "Tank II"

BACK TO TOPIC:

Teapubs inability to field an electable Presidential candidate.

Discuss.....

The reason for the OP is demographic shift.

As RW discussed in the first post after the OP.

This is not derailing the thread, this is what the thread was about from the beginning.

You saying the African American birthrate demographic has shifted enough to make a diff for Repubs? Hispanics perhaps but not African Americans, which your racist rw friend is derailing the thread talking about because its all he does in any thread.

The African American bloc voting is a big part of the One Party State scenario RW describes in the OP and the rest of this thread, though for some reason he resists my accurate term for what he is describing.

Discussing the coming marginalization of the GOP without discussing the ethnic voting patterns that are the cause of it would be stupid.