The not-so-veiled threat to non-Muslims in Tennessee

[Pogo]

There is very considerable difference between killing and murder. In the civilized parts of the world Christians are held as accountable for crimes as anyone else. And if a million people had been murdered in the name of Christianity I would indeed consider it an evil religion. Your knowledge of history sucks

Oh, they have been. You should read more. Something with more substance than Bonni Intall's Naked Islam comic books and David Barton's creative writing class.

oh you mean like Bonni's latest report on Sheikh Abdul Aziz Al-Sheikh of Saudi Arabia (pic below)

who recently ordered the destruction of "sinful" statues of beautiful horses because it's prohibited under insane Sharia law....(pic below similar to that of destroyed statue)

this is just an example of the kind of thing which the 'good' muslims are attempting to bring to your neighborhood next......you probably don't even want to hear what the citizens of Tennessee or Kentucky would have to say about that....

Pfft. Yeah right.
Again no link? Apparently with you people all you need is for somebody to put something in your ear that you'd like to believe.
Gullible's Travels. There's one born every minute.

Not that a link to Bare Naked Muslims Gone Wild would matter -- Bonni Intall has no credibility whatsoever. We already went over this. And this has nothing to do with Christian history.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Oh, they have been. You should read more. Something with more substance than Bonni Intall's Naked Islam comic books and David Barton's creative writing class.

oh you mean like Bonni's latest report on Sheikh Abdul Aziz Al-Sheikh of Saudi Arabia (pic below)

who recently ordered the destruction of "sinful" statues of beautiful horses because it's prohibited under insane Sharia law....(pic below similar to that of destroyed statue)

this is just an example of the kind of thing which the 'good' muslims are attempting to bring to your neighborhood next......you probably don't even want to hear what the citizens of Tennessee or Kentucky would have to say about that....

Pfft. Yeah right.
Bonni Intall has no credibility whatsoever. We already went over this. And this has nothing to do with Christian history.

yeah right... tell that to the historical Christian Europeans who were sujected to Muslim rule...

this is Pogo....

ps: why don't you know where bonni's site is....i mean since you are so 'knowlegeable' about it all....?

 

[Pogo]

oh you mean like Bonni's latest report on Sheikh Abdul Aziz Al-Sheikh of Saudi Arabia (pic below)


who recently ordered the destruction of "sinful" statues of beautiful horses because it's prohibited under insane Sharia law....(pic below similar to that of destroyed statue)


this is just an example of the kind of thing which the 'good' muslims are attempting to bring to your neighborhood next......you probably don't even want to hear what the citizens of Tennessee or Kentucky would have to say about that....

Pfft. Yeah right.
Bonni Intall has no credibility whatsoever. We already went over this. And this has nothing to do with Christian history.

yeah right... tell that to the historical Christian Europeans who were sujected to Muslim rule...

this is Pogo....

ps: why don't you know where bonni's site is....i mean since you are so 'knowlegeable' about it all....?

Again Junior --- we did this yesterday.
BONNI INTALL
6100 Center Drive
Suite 1190
Los Angeles CA 90045
213/258-4422
Put down the crayons and comics and grow up.

Here again is what you clowns are desperately trying to bury...
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DGi_kPvLSxE]"Public Discourse in a Diverse Society" Manchester TN, Part 2 of 2 - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Osomir]

Are you paid by Obama, Al Qaeda, or both to lie about Islamic terrorism?

Nice attempt at a deflection, but a poor defense for the fact that you got the basic tenants of so many Islamic sects so very wrong.

It doesn't matter what Muslims believe. Americans have been targeted by Muslim extremists so it's very difficult for me to trust any Muslim at this point.

The ironic thing is that your bigotry actually makes you less safe because it feeds back into the problem and encourages division and polarization. You're a danger to this country.

 

[Pogo]

If you knew more about Islam then you'd know that you don't have to fear every Muslim and lump them all together.

Are you paid by Obama, Al Qaeda, or both to lie about Islamic terrorism?

Are you? Pam and Bonni prolly owe you overtime by now.

 

[Osomir]

There is very considerable difference between killing and murder. In the civilized parts of the world Christians are held as accountable for crimes as anyone else. And if a million people had been murdered in the name of Christianity I would indeed consider it an evil religion. Your knowledge of history sucks

"Onward christian soldiers, marching as to war, with the cross of Jesus going on before!" - Frank Pocock Jan. 18th 1877 in the DR Congo.

Stanley and his "good sober Christian men" explored the DR Congo to carve out a fiefdom for the king of Belgium. Europe used forced labor in Africa for over a hundred years during their colonizing efforts and we justified it initially because the "savages" weren't civilized like we were because they weren't Christian. These "sober Christian souls" went on to oversee the death of roughly 10 million people in the Congo; roughly half of the entire population. Before we developed our racial terminology, we referred to blacks as "heathens". Obviously once they converted to Christianity themselves this became a bit of a problem for business interests and thus then was the racial justification systems developed.

"They are growing into civilized beings, and their civilization will be Christian." That civilizing mission killed tens of millions of people.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Nice attempt at a deflection, but a poor defense for the fact that you got the basic tenants of so many Islamic sects so very wrong.

It doesn't matter what Muslims believe. Americans have been targeted by Muslim extremists so it's very difficult for me to trust any Muslim at this point.

The ironic thing is that your bigotry actually makes you less safe because it feeds back into the problem and encourages division and polarization. You're a danger to this country.

so you recommend silence, acceptance and accomodation.....?

 

[Osomir]

this is just an example of the kind of thing which the 'good' muslims are attempting to bring to your neighborhood next......you probably don't even want to hear what the 'rednecks' of Tennessee or Kentucky would have to say about that....

It is an extraordinarily small minority of Muslims who dislike the existence of statues (which they see as idols).

Once again, Islam isn't a monolith, and neither is Shariah.

 

[Osomir]

It doesn't matter what Muslims believe. Americans have been targeted by Muslim extremists so it's very difficult for me to trust any Muslim at this point.

The ironic thing is that your bigotry actually makes you less safe because it feeds back into the problem and encourages division and polarization. You're a danger to this country.

so you recommend silence, acceptance and accomodation.....?

Not at all. I actually do anti-terrorism work as well (comes with the Africa development package, especially since economic development was folded into our national security strategy). What I recommend, is a little knowledge rather than blanket hatred.

When fighting extremism: generalization, stereotypes, and bigotry is highly counterproductive.

It is a benefit to our national security for you to be able to understand that Muslims are people, and like all people, exist as individuals with their own individual belief sets. Treating them all the same is a horrible policy.

 

[Pogo]

There is very considerable difference between killing and murder. In the civilized parts of the world Christians are held as accountable for crimes as anyone else. And if a million people had been murdered in the name of Christianity I would indeed consider it an evil religion. Your knowledge of history sucks

"Onward christian soldiers, marching as to war, with the cross of Jesus going on before!" - Frank Pocock Jan. 18th 1877 in the DR Congo.

Stanley and his "good sober Christian men" explored the DR Congo to carve out a fiefdom for the king of Belgium. Europe used forced labor in Africa for over a hundred years during their colonizing efforts and we justified it initially because the "savages" weren't civilized like we were because they weren't Christian. These "sober Christian souls" went on to oversee the death of roughly 10 million people in the Congo; roughly half of the entire population. Before we developed our racial terminology, we referred to blacks as "heathens". Obviously once they converted to Christianity themselves this became a bit of a problem for business interests and thus then was the racial justification systems developed.

"They are growing into civilized beings, and their civilization will be Christian." That civilizing mission killed tens of millions of people.

And then multiply that ^^ by the natives ("savages") of North America, South America, Oceania, the rest of Africa etc.

Not Antarctica though.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

The ironic thing is that your bigotry actually makes you less safe because it feeds back into the problem and encourages division and polarization. You're a danger to this country.

so you recommend silence, acceptance and accomodation.....?

Not at all. I actually do anti-terrorism work as well (comes with the Africa development package, especially since economic development was folded into our national security strategy). What I recommend, is a little knowledge rather than blanket hatred.

When fighting extremism: generalization, stereotypes, and bigotry is highly counterproductive.

It is a benefit to our national security for you to be able to understand that Muslims are people, and like all people, exist as individuals with their own individual belief sets. Treating them all the same is a horrible policy.

so how do you propose to pick and choose the 'right kind' of Islamic immigrants.....?

 

[Pogo]

The ironic thing is that your bigotry actually makes you less safe because it feeds back into the problem and encourages division and polarization. You're a danger to this country.

so you recommend silence, acceptance and accomodation.....?

Not at all. I actually do anti-terrorism work as well (comes with the Africa development package, especially since economic development was folded into our national security strategy). What I recommend, is a little knowledge rather than blanket hatred.

When fighting extremism: generalization, stereotypes, and bigotry is highly counterproductive.

It is a benefit to our national security for you to be able to understand that Muslims are people, and like all people, exist as individuals with their own individual belief sets. Treating them all the same is a horrible policy.

Horrible rhetorical fallacy too. They even want to treat us (their "own people") with the same broad brush in this forum (e.g. "libtards", "teabaggers"). It's a mental defect.

 

[Osomir]

so how do you propose to pick and choose the 'right kind' of Islamic immigrants.....?

The same way we would any other immigrant.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

so how do you propose to pick and choose the 'right kind' of Islamic immigrants.....?

The same way we would any other immigrant.

how do you ferret out those who want to live in America with the anti-American aspects of Islam....?

or don't you....?

 

[Osomir]

so how do you propose to pick and choose the 'right kind' of Islamic immigrants.....?

The same way we would any other immigrant.

how do you ferret out those who want to live in America with the anti-American aspects of Islam....?

or don't you....?

A couple of things here:

1.) We have intelligence services for that.

2. Islam doesn't have to be anti-American.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

The same way we would any other immigrant.

how do you ferret out those who want to live in America with the anti-American aspects of Islam....?

or don't you....?

A couple of things here:

1.) We have intelligence services for that.

so what are they doing exactly....with regard to Islamic immigrants...?

2. Islam doesn't have to be anti-American.

yet it is....

.

 

[Uncensored2008]

If you knew more about Americans-or just people in general-you'd know that that is exactly what has, will, and should happen. Don't Muslims divide people into people who follow Islam and everyone else as two distinct and separate groups?

Is that really fair? No. But we aren't being attacked by just one tribe (gang, sect, clan, division, or whatever) either. People who use terror tactics have no bitch coming when it comes to "fairness" anyway. If you fight nasty it should come as no surprise if you are dealt with in a similar fashion. Nor do you as a group deserve anything better.

There may well have been Nazis who were wonderful people as well as kind and innocent German women and children. We bombed them all. There is very little that is "fair" in war and jihadists who target civilians are due no complaint.

Less than 1% of Nazi party members were involved in the Holocaust.

1% of Muslims ia 120 MILLION people. The appeasers and the apologists say that since most Muslims live in relative peace, we should ignore those 120 million actively fighting to kill us.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Nice attempt at a deflection, but a poor defense for the fact that you got the basic tenants of so many Islamic sects so very wrong.

I got nothing wrong. You are an appeaser and apologist, with an agenda.

 

[Uncensored2008]

This has always been something that I've found amusing. The notion that Obama is supposed to be a Muslim and a Marxist despite the fact that the two are rather contradictory and that most Marxist organizations tend to shy away from religion. People should really make up their minds as to which one he is supposed to be.

Any sympathies Obama has for Muslims would stem from the Nation of Islam - which we both know are not real Muslims.

I often think Obama believes his own bullshit, and truly believes that he is god. He ain't going to fit in with the Muslims, that's for sure.

 

[BecauseIKnow]

If you knew more about Americans-or just people in general-you'd know that that is exactly what has, will, and should happen. Don't Muslims divide people into people who follow Islam and everyone else as two distinct and separate groups?

Is that really fair? No. But we aren't being attacked by just one tribe (gang, sect, clan, division, or whatever) either. People who use terror tactics have no bitch coming when it comes to "fairness" anyway. If you fight nasty it should come as no surprise if you are dealt with in a similar fashion. Nor do you as a group deserve anything better.

There may well have been Nazis who were wonderful people as well as kind and innocent German women and children. We bombed them all. There is very little that is "fair" in war and jihadists who target civilians are due no complaint.

Less than 1% of Nazi party members were involved in the Holocaust.

1% of Muslims ia 120 MILLION people. The appeasers and the apologists say that since most Muslims live in relative peace, we should ignore those 120 million actively fighting to kill us.

There's no such thing, pipsqueak.