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I rest my case. ^^
As do I.
....We both know that what I posted is the case. You seek to radically transform the nation. Ending the "white, Christian, heterosexual" dominance was the key goal for decades. Now that this has been achieved, ending the "obsession" with the constitution is the new goal.
It's not like you Obamunists are subtle;
The leftist standard, the New York Times, is open about it.
<irrelevant link excised>
While you may legitimately believe that an authoritarian, collectivist state, is a better option - you are at war against the Constitutional Republic - as is Obama.
Watch the video of the meeting (what a novel idea) and tell me who's eradicating who's civil rights.
Which rights did the protestors "eradicate?"
Oh wait, forgot -- you can't see the video when you're head's in the wrong position...
Or when you block H.264 at the firewall - but you wouldn't grasp such things.
"Because without her stirring up the shit, the bunch of sheeple disrupting the meeting don't make a mockery of this country."
Sorry, but it is you who represents the sheeple and it is idiotic to claim that standing for Constitutional rights makes a mockery of this country. Failing to do so is what is shameful. Were the folks not already "stirred up" they wouldn't have been there in the first place.
"Where did I say she "doesn't have a right"??
Up to the same old assumption game that got you in the hole you're in already?"
No assumption or hole here. Where did I say you said that?
Pam Geller? Why are you so fixated on this person? I had never heard of her before you mentioned her name and I would bet the same is true of the vast majority of folks there. You don't think she has a right to speak freely?
Busted? The woman you're so upset about had her say outside before the meeting started and she was only one of several speakers that spoke to the crowd outside. We also pledged our allegiance to the flag and sang the National Anthem. Yep, a real bunch of subversives if I ever saw one. It seems that you think "your" video proves something but you haven't said what. Explain?
You DO understand that Singularity-of-Dogma does not necessarily translate into Singularity-of-Racial-Characteristics, right?Because we are talking about an Intercontinental Belief-System? Because one thing leads to another in any thread? Because inter-related topics and sub-topics are also fair game? Because the motives of the adherents of that belief-system are, in effect, On-Topic?"...Why are you off to this intercontinental tangent? Given up on the thread?..."
Because "they all look alike to me"?
Me, too... so... until I have something more solid than similarity-of-lettering amongst a collection of signage, I'm going to have to set aside the judgment that they've been photo-shopped... sorry.So... the question stands... does a video clip exist of this particular march or protest?
Beats me *shrug*
... immediately after which he goes right back to it
And the link to this is.... where again?
<irrelevant link excised>
I'm the New York Times?
Are you insane?
Again..... link to where I believe any of this shit?
Wassamatta Pothead? Can't deal with the topic?
I remain unconvinced, although each of us must make such determinations for ourselves, and I will confess to an uneasy feeling in this context. The jury is still out, on my end."...Pogo is not well intentioned..."
"...He knows exactly what Islam is, which is why he promotes it..."
"...Pogo seeks the dissolution of the U.S. Constitution and the republic founded upon it..."
"...as is the goal of the democratic party in general..."
"...Establishment of a collectivist and authoritarian state is the goal of the left - which they no longer even bother to disguise..."
"...This isn't Hubert Humphrey, these are radical Obamunists who seek the complete dissolution of the American system."
You DO understand that Singularity-of-Dogma does not necessarily translate into Singularity-of-Racial-Characteristics, right?Because we are talking about an Intercontinental Belief-System? Because one thing leads to another in any thread? Because inter-related topics and sub-topics are also fair game? Because the motives of the adherents of that belief-system are, in effect, On-Topic?
Because "they all look alike to me"?
I haven't seen that yet myself, but, then again, I'm still fairly new here, and may have missed something, or a number-of-somethings.
=============================="Because without her stirring up the shit, the bunch of sheeple disrupting the meeting don't make a mockery of this country."
Sorry, but it is you who represents the sheeple and it is idiotic to claim that standing for Constitutional rights makes a mockery of this country. Failing to do so is what is shameful. Were the folks not already "stirred up" they wouldn't have been there in the first place.
"Where did I say she "doesn't have a right"??
Up to the same old assumption game that got you in the hole you're in already?"
No assumption or hole here. Where did I say you said that?
The memory is the second thing to go, Doc:
Pam Geller? Why are you so fixated on this person? I had never heard of her before you mentioned her name and I would bet the same is true of the vast majority of folks there. You don't think she has a right to speak freely?
Did you catch it? Or do I need to borrow Pam Geller's bull-horn?
Busted? The woman you're so upset about had her say outside before the meeting started and she was only one of several speakers that spoke to the crowd outside. We also pledged our allegiance to the flag and sang the National Anthem. Yep, a real bunch of subversives if I ever saw one. It seems that you think "your" video proves something but you haven't said what. Explain?
"Explain"??
You've just admitted you weren't in the meeting, yet you want to tell us what it was about? Poster, please.
Go watch the video to see what you missed while you had your fingers in your eyes. Here it is again:
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGi_kPvLSxE]"Public Discourse in a Diverse Society" Manchester TN, Part 2 of 2 - YouTube[/ame]
And here is the index again that I put together for you ostriches:
(long intro of FBI agent at beginning)
4:25 FBI guy takes podium
13:50 Sabina Mohyuddin presentation begins (where she asks how many Tennesseans are in the audience)
34:05 Q&A and commentary on decorum
36:35 FBI guy takes question on "intimidating my right of free speech"
38:40 US Attorney takes question on "on what authority are you here"
Get up off the floor, get your head out of David Barton's revisionist demagoguery-infested ass, and think for yourself already. I can't hold your hand through this entire process.
Once again, tell me, with specific time marks, where anyone's right to speech is being stomped on here-- other than those of the Muslims, the FBI agent and the US Attorney, which is pretty much the whole thing beyond the word "Hello".
Do you guys get the challenge? This video here ^^ -- not something from Neii Boortz, not some protest on another continent, not half-baked ideas of what's in the Quran, not photoshops, not fantasies about Pol Pot, and not the drippings of something you found dripping out of David Barton's ass. THIS video.
"Because without her stirring up the shit, the bunch of sheeple disrupting the meeting don't make a mockery of this country."
Sorry, but it is you who represents the sheeple and it is idiotic to claim that standing for Constitutional rights makes a mockery of this country. Failing to do so is what is shameful. Were the folks not already "stirred up" they wouldn't have been there in the first place.
"Where did I say she "doesn't have a right"??
Up to the same old assumption game that got you in the hole you're in already?"
No assumption or hole here. Where did I say you said that?
The memory is the second thing to go, Doc:
Did you catch it? Or do I need to borrow Pam Geller's bull-horn?
Busted? The woman you're so upset about had her say outside before the meeting started and she was only one of several speakers that spoke to the crowd outside. We also pledged our allegiance to the flag and sang the National Anthem. Yep, a real bunch of subversives if I ever saw one. It seems that you think "your" video proves something but you haven't said what. Explain?
"Explain"??
You've just admitted you weren't in the meeting, yet you want to tell us what it was about? Poster, please.
Go watch the video to see what you missed while you had your fingers in your eyes. Here it is again:
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGi_kPvLSxE]"Public Discourse in a Diverse Society" Manchester TN, Part 2 of 2 - YouTube[/ame]
And here is the index again that I put together for you ostriches:
(long intro of FBI agent at beginning)
4:25 FBI guy takes podium
13:50 Sabina Mohyuddin presentation begins (where she asks how many Tennesseans are in the audience)
34:05 Q&A and commentary on decorum
36:35 FBI guy takes question on "intimidating my right of free speech"
38:40 US Attorney takes question on "on what authority are you here"
Get up off the floor, get your head out of David Barton's revisionist demagoguery-infested ass, and think for yourself already. I can't hold your hand through this entire process.
Once again, tell me, with specific time marks, where anyone's right to speech is being stomped on here-- other than those of the Muslims, the FBI agent and the US Attorney, which is pretty much the whole thing beyond the word "Hello".
Do you guys get the challenge? This video here ^^ -- not something from Neii Boortz, not some protest on another continent, not half-baked ideas of what's in the Quran, not photoshops, not fantasies about Pol Pot, and not the drippings of something you found dripping out of David Barton's ass. THIS video.
==============================
You don't think she has a right to speak freely?
Are you simply too dense to understand that "?" denotes a question? Or are you unable to understand the difference a question and a statement?
"You've just admitted you weren't in the meeting, yet you want to tell us what it was about? Poster, please."
Wrong. The meeting took place outside the building as much as it did inside as I said previously. And most of those who spoke inside also spoke outside. But I guess you think you are some kind of expert because you are mostly clueless about what went on. In point of fact this was not the first stop on this dog and pony show. A similar propaganda demonstration took place in Shelbyville some weeks ago and was reprised in local newspapers and the internet and many locals found what was said there to be insulting and threatening which is why they were at this one. We had already heard what they had to say and-as this was billed as being a dialog-were there to respond and question.
"The memory is the second thing to go, Doc:"
Thanks for the warning. This you may know something about.
BTW the US Attorney was appointed to the EAST Tennessee area and Manchester is in Southern Middle Tn. so that question went unanswered.
"Public Discourse in a Diverse Society"
The Muslims and government reps. clearly intended to hold a propaganda lecture. That being the case they were unwise to speak of "public discourse" that they didn't actually want, expect, or appreciate. I don't know of any local who has gone to a Muslim community and tried to insist that they act or think as we do. I suspect that they would not appreciate it any more than we do. Muslims are not known for their sense of humor in such matters. It is also clear that the government needs a reminder that they are there to serve us at least as much as Muslims.
They wanted public discourse? That's exactly what they got. Pretty silly to whine about it.
Bottom line... after 9-11 and the London Bombings... Americans just don't trust Muslims any longer, they don't want them around, they really don't like them, and wish they'd go back to the countries where they and their parents came from.
It's the price one pays when one's co-religionists kill thousands of innocent civilians in the host country.
Bottom line... after 9-11 and the London Bombings... Americans just don't trust Muslims any longer, they don't want them around, they really don't like them, and wish they'd go back to the countries where they and their parents came from.
Irrational. Do Americans not trust Christians after Scott Roeder and Tim McVeigh and Eric Rudolph?
By the way London is not in America. North or South. And by the other way, again, 9/11 was a political act, not a religious one.
It's the price one pays when one's co-religionists kill thousands of innocent civilians in the host country.
Once again, a political act. As far as genuinely religious motivations, again, when you show me where the same outrage is over Roeder, Rudoplh, Salvi, Griffin, Kopp and the rest of that crowd, you'll start to have a leg to stand on with this religious bigotry crapola. Until then it's bullshit fearmongering and will continue to be called out as such, as long as it takes.
Bottom line... after 9-11 and the London Bombings... Americans just don't trust Muslims any longer, they don't want them around, they really don't like them, and wish they'd go back to the countries where they and their parents came from.
It's not the most attractive chapter in our history but it's an entirely understandable reaction on the part of Americans and there is even some considerable merit in the position.
It's the price one pays when one's co-religionists kill thousands of innocent civilians in the host country.
Mebbe next time they'll rein-in the maniacs before they do even more damage.
And, of course, there is, indeed, more damage to be done, with Muslims reaping the whirlwind, should another 9-11 -like incident occur.
God forbid.
Doesn't matter... it's the way things are.Bottom line... after 9-11 and the London Bombings... Americans just don't trust Muslims any longer, they don't want them around, they really don't like them, and wish they'd go back to the countries where they and their parents came from.
Irrational.
"...Do Americans not trust Christians after Scott Roeder and Tim McVeigh and Eric Rudolph?..."
"...By the way London is not in America. North or South..."
"...And by the other way, again, 9/11 was a political act, not a religious one..."
"...Once again, a political act..."
"...As far as genuinely religious motivations, again, when you show me where the same outrage is over Roeder, Rudoplh, Salvi, Griffin, Kopp and the rest of that crowd, you'll start to have a leg to stand on with this religious bigotry crapola..."
"...Until then it's bullshit fearmongering and will continue to be called out as such, as long as it takes."
Well, it sounded better than Eat-Shit-and-Die, anyway..."...Which is idiocy given the fact that for millions of Muslims the United States is their country, the country they come from."
...which is why I referenced "...or their parents...", linking back to the folks' Old Country. The bottom line is, Muslims participate in an alien, foreign belief system that does not integrate well with The West, and the sooner we admit to ourselves that this is the case, the safer The Nation will be, and the sooner we can find our way back to a rational and honest dialogue on the subject. Your ruffled feathers over such statements do not detract from their accuracy and basic truth.
Pogo said:"...And by the other way, again, 9/11 was a political act, not a religious one..."
