The Nuking of Nagasaki: Even More Immoral and Unnecessary than Hiroshima

[RetiredGySgt]

No I read them
And you can post them or not


And i will judge based on that

I post links then the next day you deny having seen them demanding they be posted again all the while refusing to post the supposed links you gave.

 

[Vegasgiants]

I post links then the next day you deny having seen them demanding they be posted again all the while refusing to post the supposed links you gave.

I will post any links you want. If I missed any of your I apologize


Now....just call me a retard again. You will feel better. Lol

 

[Turtlesoup]

And you have an opinion on that admiral.


Yet his opinion is backed by many other military leaders.


Just a coincidence I guess. Lol

My comments are more than just opinion---it's documented fact. GROW UP and research instead of trolling to try to annoy. You are coming off as a petulant child.

 

[Vegasgiants]

My comments are more than just opinion---it's documented fact. GROW UP and research instead of trolling to try to annoy. You are coming off as a petulant child.

You're very upset

Maybe you need a break

 

[RetiredGySgt]

You're very upset

Maybe you need a break

Actually we are tired of your claiming no such facts in evidence when we link to the info and you ignore it.

 

[Vegasgiants]

Actually we are tired of your claiming no such facts in evidence when we link to the info and you ignore it.

Link anything you like and we can discuss it rationally


Without insult or personal attacks

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Link anything you like and we can discuss it rationally


Without insult or personal attacks

You dont read them my last link clearly showed that the Swedish offers were not supported by the Japanese Government AND when they were told of them sent a demand to their envoy to cease and desist as they intended to fight to the bitter end. Further it clearly stated that the Soviet offer was to aid the Soviets later in a war with the US if they brokered a ceasefire rather then a surrender. You ignored it.

 

[Vegasgiants]

You dont read them my last link clearly showed that the Swedish offers were not supported by the Japanese Government AND when they were told of them sent a demand to their envoy to cease and desist as they intended to fight to the bitter end. Further it clearly stated that the Soviet offer was to aid the Soviets later in a war with the US if they brokered a ceasefire rather then a surrender. You ignored it.

I question the validity of that second claim


The emperor clearly said he wants peace...not just a ceasefire

 

[RetiredGySgt]

I question the validity of that second claim

It is in the official records seized after the surrender you can dispute it all you want it is a fact. I also linked to a source for that too.

 

[Vegasgiants]

It is in the official records seized after the surrender you can dispute it all you want it is a fact. I also linked to a source for that too.

I also posted evidence that the emperor clearly said he did not want to focus on defense of the homeland and instead wanted peace

 

[RetiredGySgt]

I also posted evidence that the emperor clearly said he did not want to focus on defense of the homeland and instead wanted peace

LOL what he wanted was a ceasefire return to 41 start lines and no concessions in China.

 

[Vegasgiants]

LOL what he wanted was a ceasefire return to 41 start lines and no concessions in China.

That's not what the emperor said though

 

[RetiredGySgt]

That's not what the emperor said though

It is what he intended as evidenced by the attempt with the Soviets before Aug 10.

 

[Vegasgiants]

It is what he intended as evidenced by the attempt with the Soviets before Aug 10.

The bottom line is the bombs were not necessary


We could have achieved the same result without them

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The bottom line is the bombs were not necessary


We could have achieved the same result without them

THAT CLAIM is lacking any proof.

 

[Vegasgiants]

THAT CLAIM is lacking any proof.

It certainly is the opinion of the military leaders at the time

 

[RetiredGySgt]

It certainly is the opinion of the military leaders at the time

Leaders with no direct experience with Japanese soldiers will to fight.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

It certainly is the opinion of the military leaders at the time

Provide a link to an actual General or Admiral WITH Combat experience against the Japanese soldiers......

 

[Vegasgiants]

Provide a link to an actual General or Admiral WITH Combat experience against the Japanese soldiers......

You honestly think these military leaders did not know the best way to proceed militarily?


Tell me you are kidding

 

[Vegasgiants]

Leaders with no direct experience with Japanese soldiers will to fight.

Like truman? Lol


His opinion you like. Lol