The Official Zimmerman Trial Verdict Thread

What are your Initial Thoughts on the Guilt or Innocence of George Zimmerman?


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I'm 68 years old, carried a weapon for 22 years in the US Army (with the DIA) 7 days a week, 365 days a year. I am extremely proficient with a pistol. I currently maintain a CCW and usually carry when my Wife and I are out - as do many here in Montana. Up here, weapons are a natural part of life, no one here sees them as a "big deal".

The funny thing about guns being carried by law abiding citizens is that they tend to make "good neighbors" out of everyone. I have never had to "pull" on anyone, but make no mistake, threaten me or mine and I will make certain that you don't do it again. And, nearly every person I know here, feels the same way, as does every member of the Sheriffs Department.

THAT is called self-defense.

WTF are you scared of in Montana that you feel the need to carry? Is having the gun just make you feel safer?

I have lived what I think is a long time and I know of no instance that I ever needed a gun nor do I know of anyone who has had need of a gun, other then hunting. I spent my youth growing up in a major city and lived on the road for 2 years without so much as a credit card.

My brother carries a gun everywhere and I keep asking him why. Who exactly is he afraid of? Any criminal that is good at their trade and wants what you have will take it regardless of your gun. I knew of a guy that had an extensive gun collection, and had it all stolen. Carrying guns didn't help him one bit. I think if I had a gun I might become even a bigger ahole in that I might not be thinking of the consequences of a confrontation quite so much.

SHARKNADOS! The scourge of America...and.to make.my.idiot.Conservatives smile? It's all Obamae fault.

If you carry you don't have to worry about no damn flying sharks. BTW movies like that are made by liberals to scare us about GW their biggest unjustified fear.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwsqFR5bh6Q]SHARKNADO - Official Asylum Trailer - TOO VIOLENT FOR TV?? - YouTube[/ame]
 
Grace was hilarious tonight. Only time I ever seen the mrs throw something at the tv. She was talking about respecting the jurors. And whatever the verdict is people need to accept it because the system has done it's job. Then she goes back to the trial and starts screaming how the lazy shits went home.

It was a long day already yesterday, they deliberated for like 3 1/2 hours after 4 hours of listening to Osteen's grandpa and John Guy. Not sure how long O'Mara spoke really but my guess is about 3.

I saw an interview on HLN of O'Mara. He was saying nice things about the Judge. Said she had a rough job with this one but she was really up on her rulings everytime and very organized. I thought she was a hard worker and tried to keep things on schedule.

This trial was amazing to watch and I won't be surprised at whatever the verdict is, maybe disappointed but you learn something with every trial you watch.

You being so well versed in the law and trials and all.​

NOT!
 
But at that point......Trayvon went right at Zimmerman and circled the truck with his hand is waistband to intimidate him.

According to Zimmerman: a gun nut, wannabe cop, vigilantee, and just plain fool.....Barney Fife with lethal intentions.....a sad, tragic joke of a man who took another's life because he has no sense of reality. Do we really want people like this walking the streets of American carrying concealed weapons???????

The most accurate and vetted version of events that happened that night are the trial transcripts. Even the prosecution did not dispute the fact that Martin approached Zimmerman's car

Z wasn't in his car when M approached. Even the animation showed that.
 
I don't anything about the Affordable Care thingo...that is your country, not mine.

you do not anything what ?? whatever, being as the USA is NOT your country, stay the fuck out of our politics and all other USA related threads :up:

when are you liberfools ever going to request GOD grant you a brain ?
 
Riots are not the mark of a civilized culture. That should tell you what you need to know about liberalism.

Peaceful demonstrations. You get so stupid, I swear, Rs are too lazy for peaceful demonstrations or working things out, they just go out and murder people.

Correction, R's can't take time off work to go out and demonstrate. Making the bakin.

;)

Sarah is a black welfare queen. You can expect no better from her. She wants us ALL working so her checks won't be delayed.
 
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Say you are walking home from buying a bag of Skittles and someone starts following you so you run off. Say you think you got away and suddenly, you hear "You punks always get away" so you turn around. Then they shoot you in the chest and you die. Guess you didn't get the chance to defend yourself.

Beatles - Paperback Writer - Video Dailymotion

Of course it'll all be fiction.
 
I remember stories from 911 where people who came down to the lobby trying to leave were told by the security people to go back up to their floors...

Well you might as well guess what happened then.

I don't think 911 dispatchers have the authority to tell someone anything other then maybe relay communications from the police.
 
According to Zimmerman: a gun nut, wannabe cop, vigilantee, and just plain fool.....Barney Fife with lethal intentions.....a sad, tragic joke of a man who took another's life because he has no sense of reality. Do we really want people like this walking the streets of American carrying concealed weapons???????

The most accurate and vetted version of events that happened that night are the trial transcripts. Even the prosecution did not dispute the fact that Martin approached Zimmerman's car

Z wasn't in his car when M approached. Even the animation showed that.

oh lord---please listen to the tape and transcript. Do you understand that M approached Z twice?
 
Horseshit.

The CDC Is PROHIBITED BY LAW from doing gun studies, after the Kellerman study showed that a gun in the home is 43 times more likely to kill a household member than a bad guy.

Well, the NRA wasn't having that shit.

Horseshit you say?

Presidential Memorandum -- Engaging in Public Health Research on the Causes and Prevention of Gun Violence

January 16, 2013



Section 1. Research. The Secretary of Health and Human Services (Secretary), through the Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and other scientific agencies within the Department of Health and Human Services, shall conduct or sponsor research into the causes of gun violence and the ways to prevent it. The Secretary shall begin by identifying the most pressing research questions with the greatest potential public health impact, and by assessing existing public health interventions being implemented across the Nation to prevent gun violence

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Disingenous much. This is something Obama called for, because we WEREN'T doing it.

Won't happen if Congress doesn't fund it.

President Obama may have ended the 17-year ban on gun violence research at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, but even if Congress restores research funds, experts say the damage runs deeper than funding cuts.

Since the 1996 ban, many of the leading researchers of the 1980s and 1990s have moved on to other specialties, and some said they've even discouraged students from specializing in gun violence research because the work doesn't pay. The ban also helped make gun-related questions controversial even for studies not funded by the government, and it will take years to restore available data to what it once was.

"Good research was being done by Art [Kellermann] and by us and by others on what the risk factors were for firearm violence, and how it might be prevented and so forth," said Dr. Garen Wintemute, an emergency room physician and leader on gun violence research at the University of California at Davis. "I won't say it halted, but it decreased substantially in scale."

The CDC Is PROHIBITED BY LAW

anyone who thin...., ooops FEEEEEEELS this fucking regime cares about the law or any law they do not like will abide by it is in dire need of a brain. :up:

joeB, is in need of a new head. :laugh2:
 
Well that certainly got you all riled up of all the things I just said.

Daughter is on summer break so I'm on vacation.

I rarely if ever bother to read your posts as they are essentially full of inanities. And your observation ("all riled up") is pure hyperbole; you'd realize that if you could recognize the difference between hyperbole and minutia, which you probably can't: most nimnos can't. Bottom line: to me you are a tiresome, self obsessed fool who is extremely limited intellectually and not worth more than scorn. I don't bother with you except to smirk at you.

Blah blah blah. I know. Run along now.

aint that the truth
 
Paul S does not understand what happened at the trial and may never understand.

And, are you sure you do? Have you watched it from gavel to gavel like I and others have? Or will you simply insult someone for no reason at all?

I am not insulting you. Rather I am making an observation based on a twisting facts to a predetermined conclusion instead of twisting the narrative to the facts to emerge with a sensible understanding of events and why they happened. That is what the jury has to do.
 
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According to Zimmerman: a gun nut, wannabe cop, vigilantee, and just plain fool.....Barney Fife with lethal intentions.....a sad, tragic joke of a man who took another's life because he has no sense of reality. Do we really want people like this walking the streets of American carrying concealed weapons???????

The most accurate and vetted version of events that happened that night are the trial transcripts. Even the prosecution did not dispute the fact that Martin approached Zimmerman's car

Z wasn't in his car when M approached. Even the animation showed that.

Listen to the 911 call.

You hear him put the truck into park and the door open alarm.
 
HAHAHA her campaign manager is one of the heads of the Republican Party in Florida.
Try again with some facts.

Another miserable Bush failure. Ala John Roberts. Still can't figure out why the rabid Socialists/Progressives hate the Bush's so much. The Bush's aren't Conservatives. They never were. All the hysterical hate from the Left towards them, really is perplexing. They should be amongst the Bush Family's biggest supporters. This Judge should be removed. Her behavior has been unjust. Zimmerman has not received a fair trial. And this dunce is a big reason.

They hate the bush's because they have an R by their name. That's the ONLY reason. If they all changed it to a D, the libs would absolutely love them!!! Lol!

Good point. I'm sure that's it.
 
Are we at a point where nutters here won't even concede that Zimmerman acted foolishly? That he should have done things differently?

Are you so ideologically dug in that you do not assign any blame at all for this killing to the guy?

If so......how fucking stupid.
 
The most accurate and vetted version of events that happened that night are the trial transcripts. Even the prosecution did not dispute the fact that Martin approached Zimmerman's car

Z wasn't in his car when M approached. Even the animation showed that.

Listen to the 911 call.

You hear him put the truck into park and the door open alarm.

facts who needs em

emotion is what is important in a murder trial
 
Are we at a point where nutters here won't even concede that Zimmerman acted foolishly? That he should have done things differently?

Are you so ideologically dug in that you do not assign any blame at all for this killing to the guy?

If so......how fucking stupid.

Zimmerman was an idiot.

As a CCW holder leaving the car had no upside.

The reasonable fear of dying or great bodily harm while his head and face were being bashed as the evidence and eyewitness account states justifies his self-defense.
 
Cue the riots folks. Should be fun watching frightened Whitey run for the hills. Gonna be some great TV. CNN and NBC are salivating. Stay tuned.
 
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