The Official Zimmerman Trial Verdict Thread

What are your Initial Thoughts on the Guilt or Innocence of George Zimmerman?


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It doesnt matter . it is how a free country operates. You cant judge Juries by the action of others.

Eh?

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which part of that simple statement confuses you? Let me go at it this way... It is stupid to assume a jury will do something because some other jury did in another case. Now say you dont trust juries is to say you dont trust the system. I would love for him to show a more fair system of justice anywhere in the world.

Simple to you perhaps.

No, he is assuming given the political undertones of this case that the jury will be influenced by such, hence his "lack of faith in juries." I don't trust juries either, but I would much rather be tried by one here than be arbitrarily sentenced in another country. I would much rather not have blind faith in a system which can be susceptible to corruption. But by far, our justice system is far superior to that of any other country in the world, if conducted properly of course.
 
Through Tracy Martin, he pointed to that being Zimmerman's voice. Deductive reasoning will tell you that there were only two people in that fight, one of them had to be screaming. If what Tracy says is true that it wasn't his son on that tape, it is logical to deduce that Zimmerman was the one screaming on that tape.

The prosecution has tried one last time to suggest via Zimmerman's deposition "that doesn't sound like me" to Singleton as reason to suggest it was Martin screaming. Game over.

One person (even if it was the father) saying he didn't think it was TM doesn't invalidate the others who claim it was. TM's father was experiencing grief/stress when he heard the tape, he may still have been in denial about TM's death, I'm sure that will be brought up in closing.

Wishing it wasn't Zimmerman wont make it so.
 
No, in most state statutes self defense is a very subjective term. The Fla law defines when it is, and is not, OK to use deadly force to defend yourself.

It is a good and needed law.

no

Does the law say you can harass some kid into a fight, then shoot him when you start losing?

Yes--that's exactly what is says. You can also dig their eyeballs out with rusty spoons if you wish.
 
Through Tracy Martin, he pointed to that being Zimmerman's voice. Deductive reasoning will tell you that there were only two people in that fight, one of them had to be screaming. If what Tracy says is true that it wasn't his son on that tape, it is logical to deduce that Zimmerman was the one screaming on that tape.

The prosecution has tried one last time to suggest via Zimmerman's deposition "that doesn't sound like me" to Singleton as reason to suggest it was Martin screaming. Game over.

One person (even if it was the father) saying he didn't think it was TM doesn't invalidate the others who claim it was. TM's father was experiencing grief/stress when he heard the tape, he may still have been in denial about TM's death, I'm sure that will be brought up in closing.
Probably so, but it cannot negate what two police officers testified as to what he said in their presence. Calling cops liars is not wise.

...especially when they testified under oath.
 
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I did that earlier today on a couple of matters.

Since then, I have knocked out one pending motion. And of course, I also learned a boat load about lawyering Florida style. :cool:

I have also reaffirmed my belief that avoiding nimrods like Sarie is a key to rational jury selection.

You're seeming a little obsessed with me now. I can't help it if you all ran off all the Dems here with your boring posts. Go find someone else to focus on.

i was thnking the same thing. I think he would love to dip your pigtails into the ink well

An obvious lie.

Everyone knows Snoopie is incapable of thinking. Or thnking.
 

which part of that simple statement confuses you? Let me go at it this way... It is stupid to assume a jury will do something because some other jury did in another case. Now say you dont trust juries is to say you dont trust the system. I would love for him to show a more fair system of justice anywhere in the world.

Simple to you perhaps.

No, he is assuming given the political undertones of this case that the jury will be influenced by such, hence his "lack of faith in juries." I don't trust juries either, but I would much rather be tried by one here than be arbitrarily sentenced in another country. I would much rather not have blind faith in a system which can be susceptible to corruption. But by far, our justice system is far superior to that of any other country in the world, if conducted properly of course.
Which is even worse cause then he is saying he has lack of faith in fellow Americans and believes they will willfully convict a man out of fear or hate.
 
Through Tracy Martin, he pointed to that being Zimmerman's voice. Deductive reasoning will tell you that there were only two people in that fight, one of them had to be screaming. If what Tracy says is true that it wasn't his son on that tape, it is logical to deduce that Zimmerman was the one screaming on that tape.

The prosecution has tried one last time to suggest via Zimmerman's deposition "that doesn't sound like me" to Singleton as reason to suggest it was Martin screaming. Game over.

One person (even if it was the father) saying he didn't think it was TM doesn't invalidate the others who claim it was. TM's father was experiencing grief/stress when he heard the tape, he may still have been in denial about TM's death, I'm sure that will be brought up in closing.
Probably so, but it cannot negate what two police officers testified as to what he said in their presence. Calling cops liars is not wise.

This^
 
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Then I bought a webtv and loved it. Then I went back to a pc a year later..this one with windows.
 
which part of that simple statement confuses you? Let me go at it this way... It is stupid to assume a jury will do something because some other jury did in another case. Now say you dont trust juries is to say you dont trust the system. I would love for him to show a more fair system of justice anywhere in the world.

Simple to you perhaps.

No, he is assuming given the political undertones of this case that the jury will be influenced by such, hence his "lack of faith in juries." I don't trust juries either, but I would much rather be tried by one here than be arbitrarily sentenced in another country. I would much rather not have blind faith in a system which can be susceptible to corruption. But by far, our justice system is far superior to that of any other country in the world, if conducted properly of course.
Which is even worse cause then he is saying he has lack of faith in fellow Americans and believes they will willfully convict a man out of fear or hate.

In this instance, yes, there's a possibility of that happening. A lot of people are gullible, thanatos, and they will believe anything they are told. Those kinds of people are dangerous. Pred is justified in thinking the way he does. I don't blame him.
 
context fuckstain context

well that certainly is an intelligent explanation

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what context do you refer to and how does the context mean he was talking about black people.

I am presuming that the rash of breaks in's have been done by black kids or people as of late.

Then you have the fact his father is well a racist, and you have to at least consider that for a moment.

Does this make him guilty? NO, but it does paint a picture at least of Zimmerman. Racist does not equal guilt of murder though.

Like i said Context and i feel this opinion of mine is quite fair.

so your entire context is based on an assumption, not facts.

that is quite intelligent.

prove his father is a racist.

your opinion is not fair in the slightest. it is not based on any facts, rather, your biased ASSumptions
 
Simple to you perhaps.

No, he is assuming given the political undertones of this case that the jury will be influenced by such, hence his "lack of faith in juries." I don't trust juries either, but I would much rather be tried by one here than be arbitrarily sentenced in another country. I would much rather not have blind faith in a system which can be susceptible to corruption. But by far, our justice system is far superior to that of any other country in the world, if conducted properly of course.
Which is even worse cause then he is saying he has lack of faith in fellow Americans and believes they will willfully convict a man out of fear or hate.

In this instance, yes, there's a possibility of that happening. A lot of people are gullible, thanatos, and they will believe anything they are told. Those kinds of people are dangerous. Pred is justified in thinking the way he does. I don't blame him.
He doesn't have clairvoyance.
 
No matter how much emotion Tracy showed, he flatly denied his son as the one screaming. Singleton just confirmed by saying "there was no doubt in my mind that Martin denied that was his son".

Even when he's murdered, a lot of fathers would deny their son screamed "like a girl" just to avoid any possibility of embarrassment.
 

Does the law say you can harass some kid into a fight, then shoot him when you start losing?

NO, but the evidence does not support that anything like that happened.

The law does say that when a thug is cracking your head on the concrete and trying to kill you that you can shoot him.

You lefties just cannot admit that TM was a trouble maker and a thug. He was probably going to end the same way in some gang bang shootout or drug deal gone sour.

No evidence? I guess it was Martin following Zimmerman around then.
 
Swallow is too stupid to understand that she looks stupid.

It's a vicious cycle...

Ah the faggot in the conservative rears it's ugly head.

And no you fucking homo, I don't want you to swallow my man juice.

Stay in Texas you flamer.

It's the land of Beer, Steers and Queers, PeterEater.

Like I said, we're dealing with some truly sick people in regards to the bed wetting liberals around here.

:lol:

If not being a faggot is sick to your faggot mind.

Then being "sick" ain't so bad.

Faggot.
 
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