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Police: Man shot in the hand in Champaign
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CHAMPAIGN, Ill. (WAND) - An 18-year-old man was shot in the hand Thursday evening, police said.
Officers said they responded at 5:27 p.m. to a local hospital for a report of a shooting victim. They discovered the victim had gone to the hospital by personal transport with a non-life-threatening gunshot wound.
Authorities said the victim was leaving a business in the 1500 block of N. Prospect Ave. when the suspect approached and fired, hitting the victim


Arberrys hand injury is PROOF he was grabbing at the weapon
You are an idiot when you are not a liar.

You just admitted you don’t have visual proof from the video prior to or at the precise moment when the shotgun was fired for the first time on that fine sunshiny day when AA was out for a jog.

And how dumb are you to say that there is no possible way that a discharge from a firearm will hit someone on the hand unless it is the result of the firearm being grabbed.

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Author: CBS 2 Chicago Staff
December 23, 2020 at 3:53 pm
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CHICAGO (CBS) — A man was shot early Wednesday morning while driving in the Logan Square neighborhood.
The 25-year-old man was driving along Milwaukee Avenue near Central Park Avenue at 4:09 a.m. when he heard shots and felt pain, police said.
Investigators said he was shot in the hand, but he kept driving and called 911.


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its the 90 degree sneak attack ambush thats gonna sink your argument

Even if it was what you claim, TM will be convicted of murder while committing a felony. But my interests here is your lies about what you think you saw on the video.

Show me the screenshot where you see a 90 degree turn by AA and an attack on TM before the first shot during that split second when both men’s shadows appeared to the camera under the truck.

This moment:

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Remember TM did not tell police that the first shot was fired during an attack or as AA Grabbed the barrel of the gun

The only other way to see clear evidence of that happening would be to see it in the video,

Since you say you can see a 90 degree turn and an attack prior to the first shot you are a liar.
 
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Citizens cannot block an anonymous persons path of travel shoulder a firearm in order to get him to stop.

Why the judge denied bail to AA’s killers.

In announcing his decision to keep the McMichaels locked up, the judge said he did not see strong evidence, or really any at all, that Arbery was stealing stuff from homes.

“There’s nothing to indicate to me he was known as the guy” stealing or trespassing in the neighborhood, Walmsley said. “Which tells me that an anonymous person was chased through the neighborhood to be detained for trespass and burglary.”

“And that somehow resulted in individuals thinking it was appropriate to block that individual’s path of travel, shoulder a firearm in order to get him to stop. There is a significant danger to all of those actions,” the judge said. “Individuals who do that need to be aware of the fact they can end up exactly where they are now.”

 
Several news sources have reported that he was a Boarding Officer and the chief investigator testified under oath that McMichael was a Boarding Officer in the USCG.

Thank you for proving that you, in fact, have no links to any news source making the statement that he was a "Boarding Officer" and that you're simply a liar...

United States Coast Guard > Our Organization > FORCECOM UNITS > MLEA > Course Offerings > Boarding Officer Course (uscg.mil)


The Basic Boarding Officer Course (BBOC) is offered to U.S. Coast Guard personnel and foreign naval officers. The purpose of the BBOC is to prepare Boarding Officers for the arduous duties associated with enforcing laws and treaties at sea. Graduates of the BBOC possess the skills and knowledge necessary to lead a Coast Guard boarding team in the enforcement of U.S. laws and regulations in a safe and professional manner. During the five week course, students receive training in a variety of courses including: criminal law, defensive tactics, boating safety and many others. Students are evaluated verbally, in writing, and through performance based training evolutions.

It doesn't say that only commissioned officers are eligible.

I don't care. The fact that it's not specified is utterly meaningless.

If you look at the qualifications for "culinary specialist" (fancy name for a cook), you won't see it mentioned anywhere that commissioned officers may not serve in that role. The officer in charge of the culinary specialists is usually the Supply Officer (another job someone of McMichael's rank would never have), but Supply Officers are rarely cooks.

And if McMichael was not Boarding Officer then the chief investigator in the case has already committed perjury.

No, he simply made a mistake, which civilians often do when talking about the military.

But, go ahead and pretend you know what the fuck you're talking about.
White defendant used racial slur after shooting Ahmaud Arbery, investigator testifies | Reuters

There's a link, jackass. And if you google it you'll find a lot more where that came from.

Now where the fuck are your links? You claimed that McMichael was a Boarding Team Member. Got a link to back up that bullshit?

There's nothing in his Joint Services transcript that says he ever completed a Boarding Team Member course.

However his transcript does say that he completed a Boarding Officer course in 2009, a USCG Gulf of Mexico Fisheries Boarding Officer course in 2011, and a Southeast Living Marine Resource Boarding Officer course in 2013.

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Looks like you're the one who doesn't know what he's talking about.

WOw, a whole four day course, huh?

The COI for Basic Boarding Officer Course is five weeks long, not five days:

United States Coast Guard > Our Organization > FORCECOM UNITS > MLEA > Course Offerings > Boarding Officer Course

The course he completed was a short, regionally pertinent course and not one which would instill upon him the level of law enforcement knowledge required of a US Coast Guard Boarding Officer.
You don't know what you are talking about. That course was in addition the Basic Boarding Officer course, you fucking dumbass. He completed the BBOC in 2009.
 
its the 90 degree sneak attack ambush thats gonna sink your argument

Even if it was what you claim, TM will be convicted of murder while committing a felony. But my interests here is your lies about what you think you saw on the video.

Show me the screenshot where you see a 90 degree turn by AA and an attack on TM before the first shot during that split second when both men’s shadows appeared to the camera under the truck.

This moment:

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Remember TM did not tell police that the first shot was fired during an attack or as AA Grabbed the barrel of the gun

The only other way to see clear evidence of that happening would be to see it in the video,

Since you say you can see a 90 degree turn and an attack prior to the first shot you are a liar.
 
Citizens cannot block an anonymous persons path of travel shoulder a firearm in order to get him to stop.

Why the judge denied bail to AA’s killers.

In announcing his decision to keep the McMichaels locked up, the judge said he did not see strong evidence, or really any at all, that Arbery was stealing stuff from homes.

“There’s nothing to indicate to me he was known as the guy” stealing or trespassing in the neighborhood, Walmsley said. “Which tells me that an anonymous person was chased through the neighborhood to be detained for trespass and burglary.”

“And that somehow resulted in individuals thinking it was appropriate to block that individual’s path of travel, shoulder a firearm in order to get him to stop. There is a significant danger to all of those actions,” the judge said. “Individuals who do that need to be aware of the fact they can end up exactly where they are now.”

The McMichaels are morons who made a lot of stupid mistakes while in custody like trying to delete text messages and videos with naughty words

I think Gregory McMichael even tried to send a coded message from jail which of course is the real reason their parole was denied

the McMichaels are morons who should have never try to help the police capture this wanted Petty criminal because now they are paying the price for being good citizens in a sick culture
 
Travis McMichael was a 2nd Class Petty Officer when he got out of the Coast Guard; an E-5.
And contrary to your assertion, you only have to be E-4 to become a Boarding Officer in the USCG.

The reason you haven't provided any links in this thread is because you are wrong about everything.

Why do you LWNJ moonbats consistently base your political positions on falsehoods when it is so much easier, and more importantly, wiser, to change your political position rather than stupidly and fruitlessly try to change immutable facts?
 
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Arbery was running straight down the side of the road and then quickly cut to the left and attacked TM.

Actually three white men are charged with murder and other felonies for thinking it was appropriate to block AA’s ‘path of travel, shoulder a firearm in order to get him to stop’

When AA cut to the left as seen right here:

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The neighborhood watch team are already engaged in a felony by blocking AA’s path of travel and shouldering a firearm in order to get him to stop.

AA was blocked by the truck on his path of travel but was shot by the man who shouldered his shotgun and was telling him to stop.

Right after AA!s foot disappears from the top photo the shot is fired and AA us wounded and a struggle for the smoking weapon being. Two shots later AA lay bleeding to death in the pavement and his killer calls him a racist slur.
 
Arbery was running straight down the side of the road and then quickly cut to the left and attacked TM.

Actually three white men are charged with murder and other felonies for thinking it was appropriate to block AA’s ‘path of travel, shoulder a firearm in order to get him to stop’

When AA cut to the left as seen right here:

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The neighborhood watch team are already engaged in a felony by blocking AA’s path of travel and shouldering a firearm in order to get him to stop.

AA was blocked by the truck on his path of travel but was shot by the man who shouldered his shotgun and was telling him to stop.

Right after AA!s foot disappears from the top photo the shot is fired and AA us wounded and a struggle for the smoking weapon being. Two shots later AA lay bleeding to death in the pavement and his killer calls him a racist slur.
it's perfectly reasonable to shoulder a weapon if someone is charging you with a hostile intention however shouldering a weapon is not the same as aiming it with deadly intention

Shouldering a weapon is just taking a weapon from a low ready position to a high ready position you can clearly see Travis McMichael's forearm in a 45-degree position proving that the rifle was NOT aimed directly at arberry

this is the point at which the criminal decided to run around the front of the truck in a sneak attack Ambush attempt

At no point in the video did Travis McMichael actually aim his gun at the crook until arbery had closed the Gap and was attacking him

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At 5m one can clearly see Amaud walking up and stopping to look around for witnesses then enter the English home... just a couple minutes later he fled like a criminal as soon as he notices the first neighbor on the phone looking in his Direction. He walked up to the house and snuck in then he bolted like Usain Bolt with a cheetah on his ass the moment he was discovered

At 12m 45s you can clearly see Ahmaud Arberry attack Travis McMichael and clearly hear the first gunshot go off well after contact was made... pretty cool this uploader made it clear that other uploaders had tried to manipulate the blasts to present a false narrative

 
its the 90 degree sneak attack ambush thats gonna sink your argument

Even if it was what you claim, TM will be convicted of murder while committing a felony. But my interests here is your lies about what you think you saw on the video.

Show me the screenshot where you see a 90 degree turn by AA and an attack on TM before the first shot during that split second when both men’s shadows appeared to the camera under the truck.

This moment:

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Remember TM did not tell police that the first shot was fired during an attack or as AA Grabbed the barrel of the gun

The only other way to see clear evidence of that happening would be to see it in the video,

Since you say you can see a 90 degree turn and an attack prior to the first shot you are a liar.


I watched it. This dude did not provide a frame that shows the actions of both men at the precise moment the first shot was fired or by the angle that AA turned left before the first shot was fired.

So why did you post it. It shows you’ve been lying that TM never raised his gun. Are you conceding that you lied about that or is that presenting fake news?
 
Shouldering a weapon is just taking a weapon from a low ready position to a high ready position

Shouldering schmouldering it does not matter what you think it means - The judge that denied bail to your hero morons did so because TM shouldered his weapon and told AA to stop - that’s one part of the felony that was in progress.

So now you admit TM shouldered his weapon and told AA to stop. It’s a crime to order an anonymous person to stop and to block his path. And that’s intended path.

which ever angle TM turned it dud not matter because white men with lethal weapons were chasing an anonymous person and never saw him commit a crime or Have first hand knowledge of a crime committed be him?
 
What sinks the argument that it was self defense is the sequence of events that led up to the shooting.

We covered this about thirty pages before. So let’s cover it one more time since it has slipped your memory.

Self Defense is allowed as a defense against criminal action. However, for it to be valid in the courts, in other words allowed by the Judge, the first thing you must do is not commit any crimes before the use of force. The McMichaels do not qualify. They committed two Felonies before the shooting. Not one, but two. These two criminal actions are what makes the charge for killing Arbury Felony Murder. They were committing Felonies before firing the weapon.

Where who was when does not matter. When and how Abury got shot doesn’t matter. The McMichaels were Felons before the shooting. They were committing Felonies.

This is the case in pretty much every situation where a Heroic RW shooter is held to account. Take the bar owner who committed suicide. Jake Gardner. Jake had a Concealed Weapons Permit, but let it expire. That meant he was carrying the weapon illegally. It is hard to explain that you were totally within the law, and your rights, in shooting someone when you were committing a crime for hours, or days, before hand.

Self Defense laws, like Stand Your Ground, are intended for people minding their own business who are accosted in their homes, or on the street, by hoods with no action to instigate it. The McMichaels were doing anything but minding their own business.

If I am going to the store, and a lunatic comes at me demanding my wallet and keys I can defend myself. If I am chasing the lunatic because I think he is a bad guy despite seeing him do nothing, then I am not minding my own business. Even if he has a warrant out for his arrest, as a citizen I have exactly zero authority to detain him. This guy could be a mass murderer, and all I can legally do is call the cops and say I see the bugger right here.

Why? Because I am not a Cop. Police are empowered through the legislature, and the people, to have greater authority than the average citizen. What is legal for a cop, is completely illegal for me. And that is the way it should be.
 
it's perfectly reasonable to shoulder a weapon if someone is charging you with a hostile intention

The problem for that idiotic defense of the moron (as you call him) with a shouldered shotgun is that your three hero morons are the ones that initiated the hostile intent against AA who is clearly an unarmed anonymous person jogging through the neighborhood as far as his assailants knew. Any hostile intent by AA at any point during the chase was justified if he chose to get shot in the front and not in the back by his pursuers.
 
I watched it. This dude did not provide a frame that shows the actions of both men at the precise moment the first shot was fired or by the angle that AA turned left before the first shot was fired.
This is that frame. I played the video at .25 speed over and over until I got it paused at the precise moment the sound of the first gunshot begins. Then sniped it and uploaded the file.


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Go ahead, play it at .25 speed.



As AA approached from the left side of the truck, TM positioned himself so that the truck was between himself and AA. But as linebackers are trained to do, AA simply hooked around the truck and hit him at full speed from the other side.

Like AA, I was a linebacker/DB in high school too. You practice that move over and over until it's second nature. The thing is, the QB can't even see you coming until it's too late because his own blockers are obstructing his field of vision. Surprise!
 
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What sinks the argument that it was self defense is the sequence of events that led up to the shooting.

We covered this about thirty pages before. So let’s cover it one more time since it has slipped your memory.

Self Defense is allowed as a defense against criminal action. However, for it to be valid in the courts, in other words allowed by the Judge, the first thing you must do is not commit any crimes before the use of force. The McMichaels do not qualify. They committed two Felonies before the shooting. Not one, but two. These two criminal actions are what makes the charge for killing Arbury Felony Murder. They were committing Felonies before firing the weapon.

Where who was when does not matter. When and how Abury got shot doesn’t matter. The McMichaels were Felons before the shooting. They were committing Felonies.

This is the case in pretty much every situation where a Heroic RW shooter is held to account. Take the bar owner who committed suicide. Jake Gardner. Jake had a Concealed Weapons Permit, but let it expire. That meant he was carrying the weapon illegally. It is hard to explain that you were totally within the law, and your rights, in shooting someone when you were committing a crime for hours, or days, before hand.

Self Defense laws, like Stand Your Ground, are intended for people minding their own business who are accosted in their homes, or on the street, by hoods with no action to instigate it. The McMichaels were doing anything but minding their own business.

If I am going to the store, and a lunatic comes at me demanding my wallet and keys I can defend myself. If I am chasing the lunatic because I think he is a bad guy despite seeing him do nothing, then I am not minding my own business. Even if he has a warrant out for his arrest, as a citizen I have exactly zero authority to detain him. This guy could be a mass murderer, and all I can legally do is call the cops and say I see the bugger right here.

Why? Because I am not a Cop. Police are empowered through the legislature, and the people, to have greater authority than the average citizen. What is legal for a cop, is completely illegal for me. And that is the way it should be.
The magic phrase in self defense is that is allowed "to neutralize a threat of death or severe bodily harm to yourself or others." Was McMichaels in reasonable fear when he shot Arbery? No. He had overwhelming force and numbers on his side. They caused the confrontation. They could easily have avoided it by simply following Arbery and waiting for the police, whom they had called at the beginning. It's a shit case as far as self defense.
 
What sinks the argument that it was self defense is the sequence of events that led up to the shooting.

We covered this about thirty pages before. So let’s cover it one more time since it has slipped your memory.

Self Defense is allowed as a defense against criminal action. However, for it to be valid in the courts, in other words allowed by the Judge, the first thing you must do is not commit any crimes before the use of force. The McMichaels do not qualify. They committed two Felonies before the shooting. Not one, but two. These two criminal actions are what makes the charge for killing Arbury Felony Murder. They were committing Felonies before firing the weapon.

Where who was when does not matter. When and how Abury got shot doesn’t matter. The McMichaels were Felons before the shooting. They were committing Felonies.

This is the case in pretty much every situation where a Heroic RW shooter is held to account. Take the bar owner who committed suicide. Jake Gardner. Jake had a Concealed Weapons Permit, but let it expire. That meant he was carrying the weapon illegally. It is hard to explain that you were totally within the law, and your rights, in shooting someone when you were committing a crime for hours, or days, before hand.

Self Defense laws, like Stand Your Ground, are intended for people minding their own business who are accosted in their homes, or on the street, by hoods with no action to instigate it. The McMichaels were doing anything but minding their own business.

If I am going to the store, and a lunatic comes at me demanding my wallet and keys I can defend myself. If I am chasing the lunatic because I think he is a bad guy despite seeing him do nothing, then I am not minding my own business. Even if he has a warrant out for his arrest, as a citizen I have exactly zero authority to detain him. This guy could be a mass murderer, and all I can legally do is call the cops and say I see the bugger right here.

Why? Because I am not a Cop. Police are empowered through the legislature, and the people, to have greater authority than the average citizen. What is legal for a cop, is completely illegal for me. And that is the way it should be.
The magic phrase in self defense is that is allowed "to neutralize a threat of death or severe bodily harm to yourself or others." Was McMichaels in reasonable fear when he shot Arbery? No. He had overwhelming force and numbers on his side. They caused the confrontation. They could easily have avoided it by simply following Arbery and waiting for the police, whom they had called at the beginning. It's a shit case as far as self defense.
that would be true if arberry didnt attack him and try and take his gun,,
 
What sinks the argument that it was self defense is the sequence of events that led up to the shooting.

We covered this about thirty pages before. So let’s cover it one more time since it has slipped your memory.

Self Defense is allowed as a defense against criminal action. However, for it to be valid in the courts, in other words allowed by the Judge, the first thing you must do is not commit any crimes before the use of force. The McMichaels do not qualify. They committed two Felonies before the shooting. Not one, but two. These two criminal actions are what makes the charge for killing Arbury Felony Murder. They were committing Felonies before firing the weapon.

Where who was when does not matter. When and how Abury got shot doesn’t matter. The McMichaels were Felons before the shooting. They were committing Felonies.

This is the case in pretty much every situation where a Heroic RW shooter is held to account. Take the bar owner who committed suicide. Jake Gardner. Jake had a Concealed Weapons Permit, but let it expire. That meant he was carrying the weapon illegally. It is hard to explain that you were totally within the law, and your rights, in shooting someone when you were committing a crime for hours, or days, before hand.

Self Defense laws, like Stand Your Ground, are intended for people minding their own business who are accosted in their homes, or on the street, by hoods with no action to instigate it. The McMichaels were doing anything but minding their own business.

If I am going to the store, and a lunatic comes at me demanding my wallet and keys I can defend myself. If I am chasing the lunatic because I think he is a bad guy despite seeing him do nothing, then I am not minding my own business. Even if he has a warrant out for his arrest, as a citizen I have exactly zero authority to detain him. This guy could be a mass murderer, and all I can legally do is call the cops and say I see the bugger right here.

Why? Because I am not a Cop. Police are empowered through the legislature, and the people, to have greater authority than the average citizen. What is legal for a cop, is completely illegal for me. And that is the way it should be.
The magic phrase in self defense is that is allowed "to neutralize a threat of death or severe bodily harm to yourself or others." Was McMichaels in reasonable fear when he shot Arbery? No. He had overwhelming force and numbers on his side. They caused the confrontation. They could easily have avoided it by simply following Arbery and waiting for the police, whom they had called at the beginning. It's a shit case as far as self defense.
that would be true if arberry didnt attack him and try and take his gun,,
Arbery reacted to being accosted by McMichaels. If Arbery had had a gun and shot him he would have been justified. You don't get to attack someone and then claim self defense.
 
What sinks the argument that it was self defense is the sequence of events that led up to the shooting.

We covered this about thirty pages before. So let’s cover it one more time since it has slipped your memory.

Self Defense is allowed as a defense against criminal action. However, for it to be valid in the courts, in other words allowed by the Judge, the first thing you must do is not commit any crimes before the use of force. The McMichaels do not qualify. They committed two Felonies before the shooting. Not one, but two. These two criminal actions are what makes the charge for killing Arbury Felony Murder. They were committing Felonies before firing the weapon.

Where who was when does not matter. When and how Abury got shot doesn’t matter. The McMichaels were Felons before the shooting. They were committing Felonies.

This is the case in pretty much every situation where a Heroic RW shooter is held to account. Take the bar owner who committed suicide. Jake Gardner. Jake had a Concealed Weapons Permit, but let it expire. That meant he was carrying the weapon illegally. It is hard to explain that you were totally within the law, and your rights, in shooting someone when you were committing a crime for hours, or days, before hand.

Self Defense laws, like Stand Your Ground, are intended for people minding their own business who are accosted in their homes, or on the street, by hoods with no action to instigate it. The McMichaels were doing anything but minding their own business.

If I am going to the store, and a lunatic comes at me demanding my wallet and keys I can defend myself. If I am chasing the lunatic because I think he is a bad guy despite seeing him do nothing, then I am not minding my own business. Even if he has a warrant out for his arrest, as a citizen I have exactly zero authority to detain him. This guy could be a mass murderer, and all I can legally do is call the cops and say I see the bugger right here.

Why? Because I am not a Cop. Police are empowered through the legislature, and the people, to have greater authority than the average citizen. What is legal for a cop, is completely illegal for me. And that is the way it should be.
The magic phrase in self defense is that is allowed "to neutralize a threat of death or severe bodily harm to yourself or others." Was McMichaels in reasonable fear when he shot Arbery? No. He had overwhelming force and numbers on his side. They caused the confrontation. They could easily have avoided it by simply following Arbery and waiting for the police, whom they had called at the beginning. It's a shit case as far as self defense.
that would be true if arberry didnt attack him and try and take his gun,,
Arbery reacted to being accosted by McMichaels. If Arbery had had a gun and shot him he would have been justified. You don't get to attack someone and then claim self defense.
arberry was never attacked,, and he knew they wanted to talk to him,,

not to mention if they were going to just shoot him they had several chances to do it,,,

twisting these facts doesnt mean anything other than youre being dishonest about the chain of events,,
 
This is that frame.

This is the frame where you hear the first shot go off. I hear it one big step by TM to the right or about there feet. So let’s split the difference and visualize TM 18 about inches to the right when both men’s shadows are positioned as shown in the top


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This is your frame where you hear the shot.
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The frame you posted does not show AA running 90 degrees perpendicular to the centerline. It does not show AA grabbing the gun before being shot in the wrist area.

So why did you post it?

I don’t see AA’s Torso or links in your frame.

So I’ll ask again; where do you see AA turning a sharp 90 degree attack on TM and grabbing the shotgun before it goes off?
 

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