The painful truth about Ahmaud Arberry

[Canon Shooter]

You don't expect a trained military Operator to sit in the driver's seat or stand next to the driver's door with absolutely no cover as an aggressive criminal runs directly at him and his father do you?

Travis McMichael is not a "trained military operator"; certainly not with regards to a situation like this.

And you're intellectually impotent to show how he was...

 

[Canon Shooter]

Travis McMichael was not a "certified boarding officer", he was a boarding team member.

How did you come to that conclusion?

Because "Boarding officers" are taken from the officer ranks; commissioned officers. McMichael was enlisted and, as such, he was not qualified from being a Boarding Officer.

That's how.

Now, would you like to ask me how I know that?

I spent 6-1/2 months as a boarding team member with a Coast Guard LED while stationed on the USS Princeton
(CG 59) in 1997 (January to July), when we were doing drug interdiction ops off of Central and South America.

Guerilla has no such experience, so he often just belches up nonsense in the hopes that he'll be believed.

He fails often...

 

[Muhammed]

Travis McMichael was not a "certified boarding officer", he was a boarding team member.

How did you come to that conclusion?

Because "Boarding officers" are taken from the officer ranks; commissioned officers. McMichael was enlisted and, as such, he was not qualified from being a Boarding Officer.

That's how.

Now, would you like to ask me how I know that?

I spent 6-1/2 months as a boarding team member with a Coast Guard LED while stationed on the USS Princeton
(CG 59) in 1997 (January to July), when we were doing drug interdiction ops off of Central and South America.

This isn't 1997. How do you know that Petty Officers are not eligible today?

Several news sources have reported that he was a Boarding Officer and the chief investigator testified under oath that McMichael was a Boarding Officer in the USCG.

 

[Canon Shooter]

Travis McMichael was not a "certified boarding officer", he was a boarding team member.

How did you come to that conclusion?

Because "Boarding officers" are taken from the officer ranks; commissioned officers. McMichael was enlisted and, as such, he was not qualified from being a Boarding Officer.

That's how.

Now, would you like to ask me how I know that?

I spent 6-1/2 months as a boarding team member with a Coast Guard LED while stationed on the USS Princeton
(CG 59) in 1997 (January to July), when we were doing drug interdiction ops off of Central and South America.

This isn't 1997. How do you know that Petty Officers are not eligible today?

Because the level of responsibility which comes with the position is not something given to enlisted people. It's just not done...

Several news sources have reported that he was a Boarding Officer and the chief investigator testified under oath that McMichael was a Boarding Officer in the USCG.

McMichael was a machinery tech. He fixed things when they broke. As such, his law enforcement training was minimal when compared to that of a boarding officer. A boarding team member follows orders, he does not give them, nor does the position provide the requisite level of training for him to act autonomously. I can pretty much promise you that he was never instructed in what to do in the scenario he created when he murdered Arbury.

As for news outlets and civilian investigators calling him a boarding officer, civilians often get things wrong. I remember last year a Mayport-based ship was returning from deployment and the local news was there to do a story about a woman who'd given birth to triplets while her husband was deployed. Her husband was described as "an officer onboard the USS Philippine Sea", but when the camera showed him with his family, he was a third class Electronic Technician; paygrade-wise, a corporal. Travis McMichael was a 2nd Class Petty Officer when he got out of the Coast Guard; an E-5.

That said, I would like to see these "several news sources". Do you have any links, or are you going to take the cowards way out by insisting that I verify your claim?

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

Travis McMichael was not a "certified boarding officer", he was a boarding team member.

How did you come to that conclusion?

Because "Boarding officers" are taken from the officer ranks; commissioned officers. McMichael was enlisted and, as such, he was not qualified from being a Boarding Officer.

That's how.

Now, would you like to ask me how I know that?

I spent 6-1/2 months as a boarding team member with a Coast Guard LED while stationed on the USS Princeton
(CG 59) in 1997 (January to July), when we were doing drug interdiction ops off of Central and South America.

Guerilla has no such experience, so he often just belches up nonsense in the hopes that he'll be believed.

He fails often...

they literally referred to him as a boarding officer in court dumbass and clearly he was professionally trained

If he wanted to "murder" somebody how come he wasn't using slugs in his shotgun?

 

[Muhammed]

Travis McMichael was not a "certified boarding officer", he was a boarding team member.

How did you come to that conclusion?

Because "Boarding officers" are taken from the officer ranks; commissioned officers. McMichael was enlisted and, as such, he was not qualified from being a Boarding Officer.

That's how.

Now, would you like to ask me how I know that?

I spent 6-1/2 months as a boarding team member with a Coast Guard LED while stationed on the USS Princeton
(CG 59) in 1997 (January to July), when we were doing drug interdiction ops off of Central and South America.

This isn't 1997. How do you know that Petty Officers are not eligible today?

Because the level of responsibility which comes with the position is not something given to enlisted people. It's just not done...

Several news sources have reported that he was a Boarding Officer and the chief investigator testified under oath that McMichael was a Boarding Officer in the USCG.

McMichael was a machinery tech. He fixed things when they broke. As such, his law enforcement training was minimal when compared to that of a boarding officer. A boarding team member follows orders, he does not give them, nor does the position provide the requisite level of training for him to act autonomously. I can pretty much promise you that he was never instructed in what to do in the scenario he created when he murdered Arbury.

As for news outlets and civilian investigators calling him a boarding officer, civilians often get things wrong. I remember last year a Mayport-based ship was returning from deployment and the local news was there to do a story about a woman who'd given birth to triplets while her husband was deployed. Her husband was described as "an officer onboard the USS Philippine Sea", but when the camera showed him with his family, he was a third class Electronic Technician; paygrade-wise, a corporal. Travis McMichael was a 2nd Class Petty Officer when he got out of the Coast Guard; an E-5.

That said, I would like to see these "several news sources". Do you have any links, or are you going to take the cowards way out by insisting that I verify your claim?

Travis mcmichael Boarding Officer - Google Search

United States Coast Guard > Our Organization > FORCECOM UNITS > MLEA > Course Offerings > Boarding Officer Course (uscg.mil)


The Basic Boarding Officer Course (BBOC) is offered to U.S. Coast Guard personnel and foreign naval officers. The purpose of the BBOC is to prepare Boarding Officers for the arduous duties associated with enforcing laws and treaties at sea. Graduates of the BBOC possess the skills and knowledge necessary to lead a Coast Guard boarding team in the enforcement of U.S. laws and regulations in a safe and professional manner. During the five week course, students receive training in a variety of courses including: criminal law, defensive tactics, boating safety and many others. Students are evaluated verbally, in writing, and through performance based training evolutions.

It doesn't say that only commissioned officers are eligible.

And if McMichael was not Boarding Officer then the chief investigator in the case has already committed perjury.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

The sequence goes like this: WTF?

Why won’t you tell me who’s shadows are seen from under the truck?

Muhammed won’t answer but KingGUERRILLA did:

Travis is on the left retreating arbery is on the right attacking

So KingGUERRILLA agrees that TM was in fact ten feet or so completely exposed in front of the truck:

Bullshit. Arbery came at him so fast he didn't have time to retreat. He got knocked backwards.

I’m glad Muhammed also agrees that TM attacked and shot AA when both men were in front of the truck where we can only see these shadows in the video.

So we know Muham and KingG somewhat recognize that - TM rushed toward jogging AA - they came together in the front of truck - the first shot was fired - AA was wounded and - AA chose to fight - That’s when we see the shadows moving right to left.

So call it a ‘retreat’ or call it ‘knocked backwards’ it doesn’t matter. The point has been made that TM was being driven back across the centerline to the left after the first shot went off. That means prior to the first shot TM had to be running, rushing, attacking AA just before that first shot wounded AA on the wrist.

The video does not show TM’s aggressive movement towards AA just before he fired the first shot because when TM was attacking AA the camera was recording this

I realize that stupid people watching that video will believe that TM did not rush toward AA in a way to block his path to get by because the camera didn’t capture it. But it did capture TM’s retreat.

So TM had to have rushed towards AA and shot him in the wrist.

TM has no case for self defense for other reasons but he also has no case for Self Defense Because he attacked AA from the safer side of the truck.

 

[Muhammed]

The sequence goes like this: WTF?

Why won’t you tell me who’s shadows are seen from under the truck?

Muhammed won’t answer but KingGUERRILLA did:

Travis is on the left retreating arbery is on the right attacking

So KingGUERRILLA agrees that TM was in fact ten feet or so completely exposed in front of the truck:

Bullshit. Arbery came at him so fast he didn't have time to retreat. He got knocked backwards.

I’m glad Muhammed also agrees that TM attacked and shot AA when both men were in front of the truck where we can only see these shadows in the video.

View attachment 436605
So we know Muham and KingG somewhat recognize that - TM rushed toward jogging AA - they came together in the front of truck - the first shot was fired - AA was wounded and - AA chose to fight - That’s when we see the shadows moving right to left.

So call it a ‘retreat’ or call it ‘knocked backwards’ it doesn’t matter. The point has been made that TM was being driven back across the centerline to the left after the first shot went off. That means prior to the first shot TM had to be running, rushing, attacking AA just before that first shot wounded AA on the wrist.

The video does not show TM’s aggressive movement towards AA just before he fired the first shot because when TM was attacking AA the camera was recording this
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I realize that stupid people watching that video will believe that TM did not rush toward AA in a way to block his path to get by because the camera didn’t capture it. But it did capture TM’s retreat.

So TM had to have rushed towards AA and shot him in the wrist.

TM has no case for self defense for other reasons but he also has no case for Self Defense Because he attacked AA from the safer side of the truck.

Quit lying dumbass.

There's a reason you haven't posted a video. It's because you know you are wrong.

Arbery was running straight down the side of the road and then quickly cut to the left and attacked TM. If he would not have viciously attacked the guy with the shotgun, he would not have earned his Darwin award.

And if the thief on probation for stealing wouldn't have snuck into that house looking for tools to steal, and took off running like hell as soon as someone spotted him and called 911, he never would have been chased in the first place.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Arbery was running straight down the side of the road and then quickly cut to the left and attacked TM.

You are a liar. You can’t see what happens between this:

And This:

When you watch the video you can hear the first shot being fired between the top image and the bottom. It wounded AA on the wrist. So you owe me an explanation how you know that AA attacked TM before he was hit by the first shot.

Will I get your explanation or will you continue to lie?

 

[Canon Shooter]

they literally referred to him as a boarding officer in court dumbass and clearly he was professionally trained

I don't care how he was "literally" referred to. They got it wrong.

And, yes, the Coast Guard is a professional organization, and their training is professional. But he was trained in maritime law.

It's different...

 

[Canon Shooter]

Several news sources have reported that he was a Boarding Officer and the chief investigator testified under oath that McMichael was a Boarding Officer in the USCG.

Thank you for proving that you, in fact, have no links to any news source making the statement that he was a "Boarding Officer" and that you're simply a liar...

Travis mcmichael Boarding Officer - Google Search

United States Coast Guard > Our Organization > FORCECOM UNITS > MLEA > Course Offerings > Boarding Officer Course (uscg.mil)


The Basic Boarding Officer Course (BBOC) is offered to U.S. Coast Guard personnel and foreign naval officers. The purpose of the BBOC is to prepare Boarding Officers for the arduous duties associated with enforcing laws and treaties at sea. Graduates of the BBOC possess the skills and knowledge necessary to lead a Coast Guard boarding team in the enforcement of U.S. laws and regulations in a safe and professional manner. During the five week course, students receive training in a variety of courses including: criminal law, defensive tactics, boating safety and many others. Students are evaluated verbally, in writing, and through performance based training evolutions.

It doesn't say that only commissioned officers are eligible.

I don't care. The fact that it's not specified is utterly meaningless.

If you look at the qualifications for "culinary specialist" (fancy name for a cook), you won't see it mentioned anywhere that commissioned officers may not serve in that role. The officer in charge of the culinary specialists is usually the Supply Officer (another job someone of McMichael's rank would never have), but Supply Officers are rarely cooks.

And if McMichael was not Boarding Officer then the chief investigator in the case has already committed perjury.

No, he simply made a mistake, which civilians often do when talking about the military.

But, go ahead and pretend you know what the fuck you're talking about. At the end of the day, Travis McMichael is never going to see freedom again...

 

[Canon Shooter]

If he wanted to "murder" somebody how come he wasn't using slugs in his shotgun?

Are you going to make the argument that someone can't be killed with buckshot?

Oh, please... please make that argument next...

 

[Muhammed]

Several news sources have reported that he was a Boarding Officer and the chief investigator testified under oath that McMichael was a Boarding Officer in the USCG.

Thank you for proving that you, in fact, have no links to any news source making the statement that he was a "Boarding Officer" and that you're simply a liar...

Travis mcmichael Boarding Officer - Google Search

United States Coast Guard > Our Organization > FORCECOM UNITS > MLEA > Course Offerings > Boarding Officer Course (uscg.mil)


The Basic Boarding Officer Course (BBOC) is offered to U.S. Coast Guard personnel and foreign naval officers. The purpose of the BBOC is to prepare Boarding Officers for the arduous duties associated with enforcing laws and treaties at sea. Graduates of the BBOC possess the skills and knowledge necessary to lead a Coast Guard boarding team in the enforcement of U.S. laws and regulations in a safe and professional manner. During the five week course, students receive training in a variety of courses including: criminal law, defensive tactics, boating safety and many others. Students are evaluated verbally, in writing, and through performance based training evolutions.

It doesn't say that only commissioned officers are eligible.

I don't care. The fact that it's not specified is utterly meaningless.

If you look at the qualifications for "culinary specialist" (fancy name for a cook), you won't see it mentioned anywhere that commissioned officers may not serve in that role. The officer in charge of the culinary specialists is usually the Supply Officer (another job someone of McMichael's rank would never have), but Supply Officers are rarely cooks.

And if McMichael was not Boarding Officer then the chief investigator in the case has already committed perjury.

No, he simply made a mistake, which civilians often do when talking about the military.

But, go ahead and pretend you know what the fuck you're talking about.

White defendant used racial slur after shooting Ahmaud Arbery, investigator testifies | Reuters

There's a link, jackass. And if you google it you'll find a lot more where that came from.

Now where the fuck are your links? You claimed that McMichael was a Boarding Team Member. Got a link to back up that bullshit?

There's nothing in his Joint Services transcript that says he ever completed a Boarding Team Member course.

However his transcript does say that he completed a Boarding Officer course in 2009, a USCG Gulf of Mexico Fisheries Boarding Officer course in 2011, and a Southeast Living Marine Resource Boarding Officer course in 2013.

SKM_C36820080615030 (wsav.com)

Looks like you're the one who doesn't know what he's talking about.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

There's a reason you haven't posted a video. It's because you know you are wrong.

I’m waiting. Will you explain how you can see what happens after this:

And before this when the first shot was fired:

I don’t see AA attacking TM or AA grabbing the weapon or anything like that when the first shot was fired.

How were you able to see it?

 

[Canon Shooter]

Several news sources have reported that he was a Boarding Officer and the chief investigator testified under oath that McMichael was a Boarding Officer in the USCG.

Thank you for proving that you, in fact, have no links to any news source making the statement that he was a "Boarding Officer" and that you're simply a liar...

Travis mcmichael Boarding Officer - Google Search

United States Coast Guard > Our Organization > FORCECOM UNITS > MLEA > Course Offerings > Boarding Officer Course (uscg.mil)


The Basic Boarding Officer Course (BBOC) is offered to U.S. Coast Guard personnel and foreign naval officers. The purpose of the BBOC is to prepare Boarding Officers for the arduous duties associated with enforcing laws and treaties at sea. Graduates of the BBOC possess the skills and knowledge necessary to lead a Coast Guard boarding team in the enforcement of U.S. laws and regulations in a safe and professional manner. During the five week course, students receive training in a variety of courses including: criminal law, defensive tactics, boating safety and many others. Students are evaluated verbally, in writing, and through performance based training evolutions.

It doesn't say that only commissioned officers are eligible.

I don't care. The fact that it's not specified is utterly meaningless.

If you look at the qualifications for "culinary specialist" (fancy name for a cook), you won't see it mentioned anywhere that commissioned officers may not serve in that role. The officer in charge of the culinary specialists is usually the Supply Officer (another job someone of McMichael's rank would never have), but Supply Officers are rarely cooks.

And if McMichael was not Boarding Officer then the chief investigator in the case has already committed perjury.

No, he simply made a mistake, which civilians often do when talking about the military.

But, go ahead and pretend you know what the fuck you're talking about.

White defendant used racial slur after shooting Ahmaud Arbery, investigator testifies | Reuters

There's a link, jackass. And if you google it you'll find a lot more where that came from.

Now where the fuck are your links? You claimed that McMichael was a Boarding Team Member. Got a link to back up that bullshit?

There's nothing in his Joint Services transcript that says he ever completed a Boarding Team Member course.

However his transcript does say that he completed a Boarding Officer course in 2009, a USCG Gulf of Mexico Fisheries Boarding Officer course in 2011, and a Southeast Living Marine Resource Boarding Officer course in 2013.

SKM_C36820080615030 (wsav.com)

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Looks like you're the one who doesn't know what he's talking about.

WOw, a whole four day course, huh?

The COI for Basic Boarding Officer Course is five weeks long, not five days:

United States Coast Guard > Our Organization > FORCECOM UNITS > MLEA > Course Offerings > Boarding Officer Course

The course he completed was a short, regionally pertinent course and not one which would instill upon him the level of law enforcement knowledge required of a US Coast Guard Boarding Officer.

He was a third class petty officer when he completed that training. Third class petty officers also scrub toilets...

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

The sequence goes like this: WTF?

Why won’t you tell me who’s shadows are seen from under the truck?

Muhammed won’t answer but KingGUERRILLA did:

Travis is on the left retreating arbery is on the right attacking

So KingGUERRILLA agrees that TM was in fact ten feet or so completely exposed in front of the truck:

Bullshit. Arbery came at him so fast he didn't have time to retreat. He got knocked backwards.

I’m glad Muhammed also agrees that TM attacked and shot AA when both men were in front of the truck where we can only see these shadows in the video.

View attachment 436605
So we know Muham and KingG somewhat recognize that - TM rushed toward jogging AA - they came together in the front of truck - the first shot was fired - AA was wounded and - AA chose to fight - That’s when we see the shadows moving right to left.

So call it a ‘retreat’ or call it ‘knocked backwards’ it doesn’t matter. The point has been made that TM was being driven back across the centerline to the left after the first shot went off. That means prior to the first shot TM had to be running, rushing, attacking AA just before that first shot wounded AA on the wrist.

The video does not show TM’s aggressive movement towards AA just before he fired the first shot because when TM was attacking AA the camera was recording this
View attachment 436621View attachment 436622

I realize that stupid people watching that video will believe that TM did not rush toward AA in a way to block his path to get by because the camera didn’t capture it. But it did capture TM’s retreat.

So TM had to have rushed towards AA and shot him in the wrist.

TM has no case for self defense for other reasons but he also has no case for Self Defense Because he attacked AA from the safer side of the truck.

you guys don't get much tactical knowledge working at Starbucks do you??

if someone is running directly at you with a hostile intention from the REAR of your vehicle the smartest place to be is at the FRONT by the engine block

Arberrys hand injury is PROOF he was grabbing at the weapon

you have a cowards interpretation of the law

 

[Canon Shooter]

you guys don't get much tactical knowledge working at Starbucks do you??

For someone with so little experience in the law you sure do run your mouth a lot.

Your hero Travis is gonna' die, courtesy of the Great State of Georgia...

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

There's a reason you haven't posted a video. It's because you know you are wrong.

I’m waiting. Will you explain how you can see what happens after this:

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And before this when the first shot was fired:

View attachment 436679
I don’t see AA attacking TM or AA grabbing the weapon or anything like that when the first shot was fired.

How were you able to see it?

its the 90 degree sneak attack ambush thats gonna sink your argument

one party stood their ground the other changed direction to attack after CLOSING ON TARGET for over a football field

perhaps if travis had actually grabbed or at least blocked Arberry path you may convince a few but you cant "imprison" someone out in the open unless you are terrorizing them with a weapon

thats why youre so desperate to suggest guns were "pointed" at Arberry who instigated by tresspass thus
provoking the pursuit
and escalated the use of force!

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

you guys don't get much tactical knowledge working at Starbucks do you??

For someone with so little experience in the law you sure do run your mouth a lot.

Your hero Travis is gonna' die, courtesy of the Great State of Georgia...

Travis is a moron just like gramps and roddy

they should have just followed him and reported his position to police
HOWEVER
if you want to make it ILLEGAL to persue someone you didn't witness commit a felony Richard The Night Stalker Ramirez would have escaped into the sunset because citizens wouldn't have had the legal right to detain him

By your interpretation of the law if I came home and found a man rummaging through my daughter's underwear drawer it would be illegal for me to detain him

By your cowardly interpretation of the law Street criminals would be empowered to flee and dump whatever evidence they have on them

Because of your sissy and cowardly interpretation of the law the little old man that tried to stop Michael Brown from strong-arm robbing him could be going to jail since he did not witness a felony and tried to shut the door and stand in front of the man who just stole from him

I'm glad I don't have a cowardly sissy like you as my neighbor

 

[The Rabbi]

you guys don't get much tactical knowledge working at Starbucks do you??

For someone with so little experience in the law you sure do run your mouth a lot.

Your hero Travis is gonna' die, courtesy of the Great State of Georgia...

No he wont die. He won't get the death penalty for what is really manslaughter. He will get many years in the cell with Darnell though.