The painful truth about Ahmaud Arberry

[SavannahMann]

How did they chase a guy down when they were standing in the middle of the street and he was running directly at them?

You're a fucking idiot.

Seriously, you're fucking brain dead...

they lied to you

*its not your fault

Ok. Proof they were not just standing in the road. I am not sure of the source. Perhaps you can evaluate it for me.

The painful truth about Ahmaud Arberry

It's unlikely any other case in recent history has inspired more misinformation as media Outlets clearly have an incentive to racialize and dramatized every incident that comes their way the simple fact is arberry was a well-known local Petty Criminal who was caught casing out a house that had...

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why did Arberry attack the mcmichels??

he ran at 2 men

he ran over 30 yards DIRECTLY at them and ATTACKED

According to your own post the “heroic” McMichaels pursued him didn’t they?

He was followed by another truck working in conjunction with the McMichaels driven by Roddy. You now turn the corner and see the first truck and now one is out of the truck blocking your route. What are you supposed to think? The guy blocking your route is armed with a shotgun. What are his intentions?

We tell women who are being attacked to fight. We tell women to fight their rapists. We tell people if they are in an active shooter situation to hide and if discovered fight. Why?

You are going to die if you do nothing. At least fighting you have a slim chance, but a chance. Doing nothing means you die with a whimper.

Now. What could possibly be your goal here? What is your motivation? It is obviously not to set the record straight. All of your assertions have been disproven. What is left? You can’t be seriously considering the law, or the facts. So what is left?

Either you are a relative of the McMichaels or Roddy. Or you are someone outraged that whites are in jail for killing a black. You are not a cop. You can’t even be a rent a cop with this level of ignorance of the law. So I don’t know what Public Safety experience you have. Perhaps you are a volunteer with some sort of Emergency Management Agency. Or a school crossing guard.

Whatever it is. It is not based in a search for truth or fact.

Criminal Arbary knew he was snagged trespassing and casing the house---so when the men followed him and told him to stop-it certainly was thinking OH SHIT I've been caught how dare the white cops try to stop me from being a criminal...this pretending that this guy wasn't a criminal is crazy.

Oh Lord. Twenty pages in and we have to start all over with Georgia Law. Ok. Fine.

Under Georgia Law the McMichaels had no authority to pursue or even tell Arbury to stop. The only person with that authority for your supposed crimes was Larry English or his designated representative. The McMichaels were not designated. Neither were they cops at the time of the incident. Daddy was retired. Mainly because he never finished his training to maintain his certification. An analogy here. If you do not renew your Drivers License you can’t legally drive anymore.

The McMichaels had no authority to perform a Citizens Arrest. That means the attempt was a felony. Trespassing is a misdemeanor. So the McMichaels performed a felony to catch a suspected misdemeanor. If that wasn’t enough they then commit the crime of Aggravated Assault. In Georgia that is where you threaten a person with a gun or other potentially deadly weapon. It is also a Felony. So even if Arbury had stopped the McMichaels were looking at Prison for at least three years.

Now you can not claim self defense while committing crimes. Otherwise every Armed Robbery Suspect would swear it was self defense when they shot the clerk. So Travis can’t claim self defense.

So the charges are appropriate for the Vigilante Trio. And they will almost certainly be convicted and sent to Prison for twenty years, the mandatory minimum by law. Anything above that is at the discretion of the Judge.

nobody threatened him with the gun and nobody took him into custody

It's not illegal by Georgia law to speak to someone while holding your gun that's not even aimed at them and that's all that happened until your criminal hero told his Braveheart Kung Fu theater attack

if you see a man running out of your neighbor's house covered in blood you're allowed to chase him and ask him questions while holding a gun in the low ready position

just because you're the title feeble coward that would let the criminal run away doesn't mean the rest of the nation will and American law is well established in this category

Oprah and LeBron want these three men locked up so there's a very good chance that's what happens even though it would be a miscarriage of American Justice

The problem is you my friend. You are the racist. You change your story every single reply. They were in pursuit. Totally reasonable and under old English law legal to take him into citizens arrest.

Explain to me based on the Georgia BAR standard I posted when they did in fact effect an arrest.

You really are just turtled up. When they and Roddy struck him with their vehicles that was also aggravated assault. The three of them set out to catch a petty thief and ended up committing multiple felonies.

your criminal hero had committed the act of trespass likely burglary attempted carjacking and assault before he was finally shot by Travis McMichael who was sustaining a direct attack on his person at the time of the shooting

you're manic disjointed posting style smacks of someone that is emotionally involved and that's understandable because you're trying to defend a mentally retarded career criminal that got caught in the act

In Georgia. I keep repeating this. Only the victim could claim trespassing. And the victim could do the citizens arrest. Bystanders could not. That was the Winn Dixie decision by the Appeals Court. Remember?

You have to catch the guy in the act. The only thing the McMichaels caught him doing was trying to avoid people committing felonies.

I know. You do not understand this. The lawyers representing the accused certainly do. And that is why they are pointing fingers at each other. It’s his fault not mine. I didn’t do it.

That is BULLCHIT and inaccurate.

the McMichaels had an immediate knowledge that he was a wanted criminal for the repeated trespasses on Larry Englishs property

It could be trouble for the McMichaels because Larry English is one of the world's most worthless pieces of human garbage and a complete coward who is trying to distance himself from all the things he did that inspired the neighborhood to try to catch this guy

it's very likely that Larry English tries to throw the McMichaels under the bus because he doesn't want to get any more death threats, that's why he's doing something as ridiculous as claiming nothing was stolen when there's a bunch of YouTube videos of his 911 calls detailing the things that were stolen

I think Larry English and William Roddy Bryant are a couple of complete freaking cowards and I would like to see both of them charged in this case somehow however the McMichaels did nothing wrong and we're simply responding to the information they were given in a perfectly legal and logical manner

The McMichaels were acting on immediate knowledge that English provided----which means they had the legal right to make a citizens arrest.

Bullshit. They had no right to make a citizens arrest under Georgia law. Please review your facts.

I did review the facts..I looked up Georgias laws--they had a right to make a citizens arrest of this habitual stupid criminal.

You are simply wrong. And the jury will decide it.

i AM SIMPLY RIGHT-----

the law is clear.

and these witch hunts to destroy anyone who opposes communism or criminals has got to end.

What makes a criminal?

The first person that committed a crime was arberry and the first person that committed a violent crime was arberry

its over...you lost

What crime??

Criminal Trespass with intent to commit burglary compounded by flight and felony assault

That boy couldn't stay out of trouble could he?

watching his interaction with the police who questioned him for smoking weed in an illegally parked vehicle in the park was all one needs to know about his hostile aggressive attitude

And let’s for the sake of argument say you are right. You aren’t. But let’s pretend. We are taking the Mister Rogers train to Make Believe Land.

Even if everything you say is true. Under Georgia Law the McMichaels had no legal authority to pursue and detain/arrest.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

at 1245 anyone can see Travis fired his weapon well after arberry attacked him

You are deranged. I took a screen shot from your linked video at 12-45 just as you ask:, This is what is seen when you say the first shot was fired on your favorite source:

where is TM? Where is the shotgun? Where is AA? Where are your glasses? Where is your brain? Where is your integrity?

 

[Muhammed]

Now it is a matter of record that the McMichaels were committing two Felonies prior to the shooting.

Could you explain to the USMB forum, the convoluted reasoning that you used to come to that stupid conclusion?

In Atlanta I saw there were 10,000 Aggravated Assaults. That is where you wave a weapon or threaten someone with a weapon.

At what point in this video do you see anyone waving a weapon?



Is it before or after Arbery assaulted/battered and attempted to steal the shotgun (attempted robbery) from McMichael?

 

[Muhammed]

. Under Georgia Law the McMichaels had no legal authority to pursue and detain/arrest.

Can you show the USMB forum, any sort of evidence that either Travis McMichael or his father Gregory McMichael attempted to illegally detain/arrest Mr. Arbery?

If so, please share it with us.

 

[Canon Shooter]

. Under Georgia Law the McMichaels had no legal authority to pursue and detain/arrest.

Can you show the USMB forum, any sort of evidence that either Travis McMichael or his father Gregory McMichael attempted to illegally detain/arrest Mr. Arbery?

If so, please share it with us.

Why did they chase him?

 

[Muhammed]

My consisted image when the first shot was fired :

View attachment 437332
Pretty close.

That is obviously an image that has been digitally edited. Did you edit it? If not, who did?

Could post a link to the video so that your fellow USMB forumers may scrutinize it?

 

[Muhammed]

My take on the matter is that just because Forest Gump was justified in attacking Travis McMichael in self defense, that does not necessarily mean that Travis McMichael was not justified to shoot Forest Gump in self defense.

Forest Gump should have just kept on running, rather than stupidly try to steal the shotgun.

That's why Forest Gump will never be an old wise man, he's just a dead young man. A permanent scar on his mother's heart.

Stupid is as stupid does, all the way to the grave.

 

[Penelope]

The McMichaels were after him, along with the car following him. He was ambushed.

 

[Penelope]

Criminal Trespass with intent to commit burglary compounded by flight and felony assault

and just how do you know??

 

[NotfooledbyW]

26259825 reply to 26259517

Could post a link to the video so that your fellow USMB forumers may scrutinize it?

here ....


Video of Murdered Black Jogger in Georgia Ahmaud Arbery



All I did was slow it down and Snapped this screen shot

Above Just did it again and TM s shadow is still there out in front of the truck .

This is my screen shot on file for months. By position of TM’s cap this is a split second before the new image above one.

This is from the newer image:

Magnified shadow of what looks to shouldered shotgun and it has already been fired once - hitting AA in the lower chest. If it is - the top of the shot gun logs to be at least for feet across the centerline and this is during TMs retreat.

I’m sure GBI has this analyzed and enhanced and I’ll bet they can determine with certainty that TMs back foot was a full truck length out in front of the bumper.

It shows me TM was the aggressor right up to when he shot AA for not stopping as he ran around the passenger side of the truck. It’s murder - not even close to self defense for idiot TM.

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

The McMichaels were after him, along with the car following him. He was ambushed.

You can't Ambush somebody while standing out in the middle of the street as they run directly at you from a distance longer than a football field

Ambushes mean you hide from them and then surprise attack them

Arbery is the one that made the surprise attack

He's the one that initiated provoked and escalated the entire thing the McMichaels were reacting to his criminal intention

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

26259825 reply to 26259517

Could post a link to the video so that your fellow USMB forumers may scrutinize it?

here ....


Video of Murdered Black Jogger in Georgia Ahmaud Arbery



All I did was slow it down and Snapped this screen shot

View attachment 437506
Above Just did it again and TM s shadow is still there out in front of the truck . View attachment 437509
This is my screen shot on file for months. By position of TM’s cap this is a split second before the new image above one.

This is from the newer image:

View attachment 437511
Magnified shadow of what looks to shouldered shotgun and it has already been fired once - hitting AA in the lower chest. If it is - the top of the shot gun logs to be at least for feet across the centerline and this is during TMs retreat.

I’m sure GBI has this analyzed and enhanced and I’ll bet they can determine with certainty that TMs back foot was a full truck length out in front of the bumper.

It shows me TM was the aggressor right up to when he shot AA for not stopping as he ran around the passenger side of the truck. It’s murder - not even close to self defense for idiot TM.

This idiot is actually trying to suggest that Travis McMichael shot maud as he was innocently jogging past the front of the truck

if that were true he would have entrance wounds coming in laterally from his left side but all his injuries were directly forward because he was rushing Travis when he was shot that's why this uploader wants to show you shadow puppets and doesn't want you to watch the video where you can clearly see the shotgun blast occur as arbery is squared off and charging towards Travis McMichael in a clear attempt to forcibly disarm him which is universally grounds for self-defense from time immemorial

 

[Turtlesoup]

How did they chase a guy down when they were standing in the middle of the street and he was running directly at them?

You're a fucking idiot.

Seriously, you're fucking brain dead...

they lied to you

*its not your fault

Ok. Proof they were not just standing in the road. I am not sure of the source. Perhaps you can evaluate it for me.

The painful truth about Ahmaud Arberry

It's unlikely any other case in recent history has inspired more misinformation as media Outlets clearly have an incentive to racialize and dramatized every incident that comes their way the simple fact is arberry was a well-known local Petty Criminal who was caught casing out a house that had...

www.usmessageboard.com

why did Arberry attack the mcmichels??

he ran at 2 men

he ran over 30 yards DIRECTLY at them and ATTACKED

According to your own post the “heroic” McMichaels pursued him didn’t they?

He was followed by another truck working in conjunction with the McMichaels driven by Roddy. You now turn the corner and see the first truck and now one is out of the truck blocking your route. What are you supposed to think? The guy blocking your route is armed with a shotgun. What are his intentions?

We tell women who are being attacked to fight. We tell women to fight their rapists. We tell people if they are in an active shooter situation to hide and if discovered fight. Why?

You are going to die if you do nothing. At least fighting you have a slim chance, but a chance. Doing nothing means you die with a whimper.

Now. What could possibly be your goal here? What is your motivation? It is obviously not to set the record straight. All of your assertions have been disproven. What is left? You can’t be seriously considering the law, or the facts. So what is left?

Either you are a relative of the McMichaels or Roddy. Or you are someone outraged that whites are in jail for killing a black. You are not a cop. You can’t even be a rent a cop with this level of ignorance of the law. So I don’t know what Public Safety experience you have. Perhaps you are a volunteer with some sort of Emergency Management Agency. Or a school crossing guard.

Whatever it is. It is not based in a search for truth or fact.

Criminal Arbary knew he was snagged trespassing and casing the house---so when the men followed him and told him to stop-it certainly was thinking OH SHIT I've been caught how dare the white cops try to stop me from being a criminal...this pretending that this guy wasn't a criminal is crazy.

Oh Lord. Twenty pages in and we have to start all over with Georgia Law. Ok. Fine.

Under Georgia Law the McMichaels had no authority to pursue or even tell Arbury to stop. The only person with that authority for your supposed crimes was Larry English or his designated representative. The McMichaels were not designated. Neither were they cops at the time of the incident. Daddy was retired. Mainly because he never finished his training to maintain his certification. An analogy here. If you do not renew your Drivers License you can’t legally drive anymore.

The McMichaels had no authority to perform a Citizens Arrest. That means the attempt was a felony. Trespassing is a misdemeanor. So the McMichaels performed a felony to catch a suspected misdemeanor. If that wasn’t enough they then commit the crime of Aggravated Assault. In Georgia that is where you threaten a person with a gun or other potentially deadly weapon. It is also a Felony. So even if Arbury had stopped the McMichaels were looking at Prison for at least three years.

Now you can not claim self defense while committing crimes. Otherwise every Armed Robbery Suspect would swear it was self defense when they shot the clerk. So Travis can’t claim self defense.

So the charges are appropriate for the Vigilante Trio. And they will almost certainly be convicted and sent to Prison for twenty years, the mandatory minimum by law. Anything above that is at the discretion of the Judge.

nobody threatened him with the gun and nobody took him into custody

It's not illegal by Georgia law to speak to someone while holding your gun that's not even aimed at them and that's all that happened until your criminal hero told his Braveheart Kung Fu theater attack

if you see a man running out of your neighbor's house covered in blood you're allowed to chase him and ask him questions while holding a gun in the low ready position

just because you're the title feeble coward that would let the criminal run away doesn't mean the rest of the nation will and American law is well established in this category

Oprah and LeBron want these three men locked up so there's a very good chance that's what happens even though it would be a miscarriage of American Justice

The problem is you my friend. You are the racist. You change your story every single reply. They were in pursuit. Totally reasonable and under old English law legal to take him into citizens arrest.

Explain to me based on the Georgia BAR standard I posted when they did in fact effect an arrest.

You really are just turtled up. When they and Roddy struck him with their vehicles that was also aggravated assault. The three of them set out to catch a petty thief and ended up committing multiple felonies.

your criminal hero had committed the act of trespass likely burglary attempted carjacking and assault before he was finally shot by Travis McMichael who was sustaining a direct attack on his person at the time of the shooting

you're manic disjointed posting style smacks of someone that is emotionally involved and that's understandable because you're trying to defend a mentally retarded career criminal that got caught in the act

In Georgia. I keep repeating this. Only the victim could claim trespassing. And the victim could do the citizens arrest. Bystanders could not. That was the Winn Dixie decision by the Appeals Court. Remember?

You have to catch the guy in the act. The only thing the McMichaels caught him doing was trying to avoid people committing felonies.

I know. You do not understand this. The lawyers representing the accused certainly do. And that is why they are pointing fingers at each other. It’s his fault not mine. I didn’t do it.

That is BULLCHIT and inaccurate.

the McMichaels had an immediate knowledge that he was a wanted criminal for the repeated trespasses on Larry Englishs property

It could be trouble for the McMichaels because Larry English is one of the world's most worthless pieces of human garbage and a complete coward who is trying to distance himself from all the things he did that inspired the neighborhood to try to catch this guy

it's very likely that Larry English tries to throw the McMichaels under the bus because he doesn't want to get any more death threats, that's why he's doing something as ridiculous as claiming nothing was stolen when there's a bunch of YouTube videos of his 911 calls detailing the things that were stolen

I think Larry English and William Roddy Bryant are a couple of complete freaking cowards and I would like to see both of them charged in this case somehow however the McMichaels did nothing wrong and we're simply responding to the information they were given in a perfectly legal and logical manner

The McMichaels were acting on immediate knowledge that English provided----which means they had the legal right to make a citizens arrest.

Bullshit. They had no right to make a citizens arrest under Georgia law. Please review your facts.

I did review the facts..I looked up Georgias laws--they had a right to make a citizens arrest of this habitual stupid criminal.

You are simply wrong. And the jury will decide it.

i AM SIMPLY RIGHT-----

the law is clear.

and these witch hunts to destroy anyone who opposes communism or criminals has got to end.

When you run out of arguments just type all caps and say you're right.
In fact you are not. Me an SavannahMan have gone through the law and the circumstances of this case. There was no justification-zero-for shooting Arbery. And the McMichaels will do long prison terms for it.

You and Savannahman? Well aren't you two special.....I guess I should just stop thinking for myself since I got you to already issuing a verdict........

NOT.


I read the law, I think for myself unlike weak minded clowns---------when Arbery (a convicted felon no less) tried to grab their gun, they gained the right to shoot him in self defence.

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

Criminal Trespass with intent to commit burglary compounded by flight and felony assault

and just how do you know??

we have a criminal thief from a criminal family who stops and looks around before he walks into a home and starts poking around looking for things in a video that lasts several minutes but suspiciously we only get to see a few seconds in media broadcasts and then the split second he notices a guy looking at him while on the phone on the other side of the street he Sprints like Usain Bolt with a cheetah on his ass right out of the front door and into the road

Any innocent jogger checking out of property would walk around the outside of the property and not try to be sneaky about it and he sure as hell wouldnt SPRINT OUT the front door on the grass and into the street without checking for traffic like a civilized human being out for a jog

Anybody with one cent of Street knowledge knows that open construction sites are a hotbed of criminal activity because they have very valuable hand tools and fixtures oftentimes sitting around waiting to be installed

a decent impact driver can fetch you a couple hundred bucks at the local pawn shop and anybody that knows anything about Street crime knows that hand tools are one of the most stolen items in the world

That boy wasn't looking for a drink of water and he wasn't trying to check out the architecture... he was casing that place to see what he could come back and steal later

Walks quacks and looks just like a duck

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Telling white morons with guns that it is justifiable to assault, kidnap, detain and shoot to kill unarmed black suspects of imagined petty crimes
26260109 reply to 26259545

My take on the matter is that just because Forest Gump was justified in attacking Travis McMichael in self defense, that does not necessarily mean that Travis McMichael was not justified to shoot Forest Gump in self defense.

Except your take on the matter is to tell all the other white morons with guns out there that it is justifiable to assault, kidnap, detain and shoot to kill unarmed black suspects of any imaginable petty crime and they will be heroes to other white gun loving racist morons out there.

But in the Arbery murder it’s highly probable that as AA was about to pass the front of the truck he was confronted by TM right there on his side of the road being told to stop while looking down the business end of TM’s shotgun. In that one one thousands of a second AA had to process three choices - not one of them good because he had no clue as to what a madman with a shotgun was intending to do to him.

Hands up - surrender - but maybe he was shocked to suddenly see TM there in front of him instead of TM staying across the centerline where TM was when AA tried to run past him. In that case his momentum did not allow that option and TM shot him.

That left two options with the added shock and trauma of being shot in the chest but not fatally but losing blood.

Veer to the right try to try to outrun a second shot - Be shot in in the back. That was option one of the two left after the initial wound to the chest

in that split millisecond AA chose the ‘fight’ option. Try to get the gun that already wounded him once. Whatever it takes.

All you and your fellow ilk KingGUERRILLA see on the video is TM peaceably standing left of center when unwounded AA cuts 90 degrees to attack him and try to steal the gun and during that struggle AA is shot for the first time and two more times after that.

Your visual of it what happened unseen in front of the truck when that first shot was fired is a lie.

And there is nothing that justifies anything those three white morons (two morons with guns) did that afternoon - nothing, nada, no way no how..

You need to quit your hero worship of white morons with guns who Assault and murder.

You need to face up to reality and do some introspection as to why you’ve become what you are to be filled with so much hatred for decency and justice.

 

[SavannahMann]

Now it is a matter of record that the McMichaels were committing two Felonies prior to the shooting.

Could you explain to the USMB forum, the convoluted reasoning that you used to come to that stupid conclusion?

In Atlanta I saw there were 10,000 Aggravated Assaults. That is where you wave a weapon or threaten someone with a weapon.

At what point in this video do you see anyone waving a weapon?



Is it before or after Arbery assaulted/battered and attempted to steal the shotgun (attempted robbery) from McMichael?

It is who committed the first crime. That would be the McMichaels. As I explained but you seem to refuse truth. Or facts. Or information.

 

[SavannahMann]

How did they chase a guy down when they were standing in the middle of the street and he was running directly at them?

You're a fucking idiot.

Seriously, you're fucking brain dead...

they lied to you

*its not your fault

Ok. Proof they were not just standing in the road. I am not sure of the source. Perhaps you can evaluate it for me.

The painful truth about Ahmaud Arberry

It's unlikely any other case in recent history has inspired more misinformation as media Outlets clearly have an incentive to racialize and dramatized every incident that comes their way the simple fact is arberry was a well-known local Petty Criminal who was caught casing out a house that had...

www.usmessageboard.com

why did Arberry attack the mcmichels??

he ran at 2 men

he ran over 30 yards DIRECTLY at them and ATTACKED

According to your own post the “heroic” McMichaels pursued him didn’t they?

He was followed by another truck working in conjunction with the McMichaels driven by Roddy. You now turn the corner and see the first truck and now one is out of the truck blocking your route. What are you supposed to think? The guy blocking your route is armed with a shotgun. What are his intentions?

We tell women who are being attacked to fight. We tell women to fight their rapists. We tell people if they are in an active shooter situation to hide and if discovered fight. Why?

You are going to die if you do nothing. At least fighting you have a slim chance, but a chance. Doing nothing means you die with a whimper.

Now. What could possibly be your goal here? What is your motivation? It is obviously not to set the record straight. All of your assertions have been disproven. What is left? You can’t be seriously considering the law, or the facts. So what is left?

Either you are a relative of the McMichaels or Roddy. Or you are someone outraged that whites are in jail for killing a black. You are not a cop. You can’t even be a rent a cop with this level of ignorance of the law. So I don’t know what Public Safety experience you have. Perhaps you are a volunteer with some sort of Emergency Management Agency. Or a school crossing guard.

Whatever it is. It is not based in a search for truth or fact.

Criminal Arbary knew he was snagged trespassing and casing the house---so when the men followed him and told him to stop-it certainly was thinking OH SHIT I've been caught how dare the white cops try to stop me from being a criminal...this pretending that this guy wasn't a criminal is crazy.

Oh Lord. Twenty pages in and we have to start all over with Georgia Law. Ok. Fine.

Under Georgia Law the McMichaels had no authority to pursue or even tell Arbury to stop. The only person with that authority for your supposed crimes was Larry English or his designated representative. The McMichaels were not designated. Neither were they cops at the time of the incident. Daddy was retired. Mainly because he never finished his training to maintain his certification. An analogy here. If you do not renew your Drivers License you can’t legally drive anymore.

The McMichaels had no authority to perform a Citizens Arrest. That means the attempt was a felony. Trespassing is a misdemeanor. So the McMichaels performed a felony to catch a suspected misdemeanor. If that wasn’t enough they then commit the crime of Aggravated Assault. In Georgia that is where you threaten a person with a gun or other potentially deadly weapon. It is also a Felony. So even if Arbury had stopped the McMichaels were looking at Prison for at least three years.

Now you can not claim self defense while committing crimes. Otherwise every Armed Robbery Suspect would swear it was self defense when they shot the clerk. So Travis can’t claim self defense.

So the charges are appropriate for the Vigilante Trio. And they will almost certainly be convicted and sent to Prison for twenty years, the mandatory minimum by law. Anything above that is at the discretion of the Judge.

nobody threatened him with the gun and nobody took him into custody

It's not illegal by Georgia law to speak to someone while holding your gun that's not even aimed at them and that's all that happened until your criminal hero told his Braveheart Kung Fu theater attack

if you see a man running out of your neighbor's house covered in blood you're allowed to chase him and ask him questions while holding a gun in the low ready position

just because you're the title feeble coward that would let the criminal run away doesn't mean the rest of the nation will and American law is well established in this category

Oprah and LeBron want these three men locked up so there's a very good chance that's what happens even though it would be a miscarriage of American Justice

The problem is you my friend. You are the racist. You change your story every single reply. They were in pursuit. Totally reasonable and under old English law legal to take him into citizens arrest.

Explain to me based on the Georgia BAR standard I posted when they did in fact effect an arrest.

You really are just turtled up. When they and Roddy struck him with their vehicles that was also aggravated assault. The three of them set out to catch a petty thief and ended up committing multiple felonies.

your criminal hero had committed the act of trespass likely burglary attempted carjacking and assault before he was finally shot by Travis McMichael who was sustaining a direct attack on his person at the time of the shooting

you're manic disjointed posting style smacks of someone that is emotionally involved and that's understandable because you're trying to defend a mentally retarded career criminal that got caught in the act

In Georgia. I keep repeating this. Only the victim could claim trespassing. And the victim could do the citizens arrest. Bystanders could not. That was the Winn Dixie decision by the Appeals Court. Remember?

You have to catch the guy in the act. The only thing the McMichaels caught him doing was trying to avoid people committing felonies.

I know. You do not understand this. The lawyers representing the accused certainly do. And that is why they are pointing fingers at each other. It’s his fault not mine. I didn’t do it.

That is BULLCHIT and inaccurate.

the McMichaels had an immediate knowledge that he was a wanted criminal for the repeated trespasses on Larry Englishs property

It could be trouble for the McMichaels because Larry English is one of the world's most worthless pieces of human garbage and a complete coward who is trying to distance himself from all the things he did that inspired the neighborhood to try to catch this guy

it's very likely that Larry English tries to throw the McMichaels under the bus because he doesn't want to get any more death threats, that's why he's doing something as ridiculous as claiming nothing was stolen when there's a bunch of YouTube videos of his 911 calls detailing the things that were stolen

I think Larry English and William Roddy Bryant are a couple of complete freaking cowards and I would like to see both of them charged in this case somehow however the McMichaels did nothing wrong and we're simply responding to the information they were given in a perfectly legal and logical manner

The McMichaels were acting on immediate knowledge that English provided----which means they had the legal right to make a citizens arrest.

Bullshit. They had no right to make a citizens arrest under Georgia law. Please review your facts.

I did review the facts..I looked up Georgias laws--they had a right to make a citizens arrest of this habitual stupid criminal.

You are simply wrong. And the jury will decide it.

i AM SIMPLY RIGHT-----

the law is clear.

and these witch hunts to destroy anyone who opposes communism or criminals has got to end.

When you run out of arguments just type all caps and say you're right.
In fact you are not. Me an SavannahMan have gone through the law and the circumstances of this case. There was no justification-zero-for shooting Arbery. And the McMichaels will do long prison terms for it.

You and Savannahman? Well aren't you two special.....I guess I should just stop thinking for myself since I got you to already issuing a verdict........

NOT.


I read the law, I think for myself unlike weak minded clowns---------when Arbery (a convicted felon no less) tried to grab their gun, they gained the right to shoot him in self defence.

Ok. Here is an explanation of the law by a successful Appeals Attorney.

The Ahmaud Arbery Killing and Georgia Law

Explaining the legal issues surrounding the incident of two white men shooting a black jogger they suspected of a crime

arcdigital.media

Think for yourself if you like. But unless you are a lawyer who has gotten people out of jams like the McMichaels are in, perhaps you should listen to the experts.

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

. Under Georgia Law the McMichaels had no legal authority to pursue and detain/arrest.

Can you show the USMB forum, any sort of evidence that either Travis McMichael or his father Gregory McMichael attempted to illegally detain/arrest Mr. Arbery?

If so, please share it with us.

Why did they chase him?

Because they recognized him from surveillance and Travis McMichael and Gregory McMichael had both seen him and dealt with him in the past

like I said he was a well-known local Petty Thief

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

Now it is a matter of record that the McMichaels were committing two Felonies prior to the shooting.

Could you explain to the USMB forum, the convoluted reasoning that you used to come to that stupid conclusion?

In Atlanta I saw there were 10,000 Aggravated Assaults. That is where you wave a weapon or threaten someone with a weapon.

At what point in this video do you see anyone waving a weapon?



Is it before or after Arbery assaulted/battered and attempted to steal the shotgun (attempted robbery) from McMichael?

It is who committed the first crime. That would be the McMichaels. As I explained but you seem to refuse truth. Or facts. Or information.

the first criminal act was trespass
and the same person that committed the first criminal act of trespass is the first person that committed a violent act as well

the mcMichels were simply reacting to a trespasser in their neighborhood doing suspicious things

 

[The Rabbi]

How did they chase a guy down when they were standing in the middle of the street and he was running directly at them?

You're a fucking idiot.

Seriously, you're fucking brain dead...

they lied to you

*its not your fault

Ok. Proof they were not just standing in the road. I am not sure of the source. Perhaps you can evaluate it for me.

The painful truth about Ahmaud Arberry

It's unlikely any other case in recent history has inspired more misinformation as media Outlets clearly have an incentive to racialize and dramatized every incident that comes their way the simple fact is arberry was a well-known local Petty Criminal who was caught casing out a house that had...

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why did Arberry attack the mcmichels??

he ran at 2 men

he ran over 30 yards DIRECTLY at them and ATTACKED

According to your own post the “heroic” McMichaels pursued him didn’t they?

He was followed by another truck working in conjunction with the McMichaels driven by Roddy. You now turn the corner and see the first truck and now one is out of the truck blocking your route. What are you supposed to think? The guy blocking your route is armed with a shotgun. What are his intentions?

We tell women who are being attacked to fight. We tell women to fight their rapists. We tell people if they are in an active shooter situation to hide and if discovered fight. Why?

You are going to die if you do nothing. At least fighting you have a slim chance, but a chance. Doing nothing means you die with a whimper.

Now. What could possibly be your goal here? What is your motivation? It is obviously not to set the record straight. All of your assertions have been disproven. What is left? You can’t be seriously considering the law, or the facts. So what is left?

Either you are a relative of the McMichaels or Roddy. Or you are someone outraged that whites are in jail for killing a black. You are not a cop. You can’t even be a rent a cop with this level of ignorance of the law. So I don’t know what Public Safety experience you have. Perhaps you are a volunteer with some sort of Emergency Management Agency. Or a school crossing guard.

Whatever it is. It is not based in a search for truth or fact.

Criminal Arbary knew he was snagged trespassing and casing the house---so when the men followed him and told him to stop-it certainly was thinking OH SHIT I've been caught how dare the white cops try to stop me from being a criminal...this pretending that this guy wasn't a criminal is crazy.

Oh Lord. Twenty pages in and we have to start all over with Georgia Law. Ok. Fine.

Under Georgia Law the McMichaels had no authority to pursue or even tell Arbury to stop. The only person with that authority for your supposed crimes was Larry English or his designated representative. The McMichaels were not designated. Neither were they cops at the time of the incident. Daddy was retired. Mainly because he never finished his training to maintain his certification. An analogy here. If you do not renew your Drivers License you can’t legally drive anymore.

The McMichaels had no authority to perform a Citizens Arrest. That means the attempt was a felony. Trespassing is a misdemeanor. So the McMichaels performed a felony to catch a suspected misdemeanor. If that wasn’t enough they then commit the crime of Aggravated Assault. In Georgia that is where you threaten a person with a gun or other potentially deadly weapon. It is also a Felony. So even if Arbury had stopped the McMichaels were looking at Prison for at least three years.

Now you can not claim self defense while committing crimes. Otherwise every Armed Robbery Suspect would swear it was self defense when they shot the clerk. So Travis can’t claim self defense.

So the charges are appropriate for the Vigilante Trio. And they will almost certainly be convicted and sent to Prison for twenty years, the mandatory minimum by law. Anything above that is at the discretion of the Judge.

nobody threatened him with the gun and nobody took him into custody

It's not illegal by Georgia law to speak to someone while holding your gun that's not even aimed at them and that's all that happened until your criminal hero told his Braveheart Kung Fu theater attack

if you see a man running out of your neighbor's house covered in blood you're allowed to chase him and ask him questions while holding a gun in the low ready position

just because you're the title feeble coward that would let the criminal run away doesn't mean the rest of the nation will and American law is well established in this category

Oprah and LeBron want these three men locked up so there's a very good chance that's what happens even though it would be a miscarriage of American Justice

The problem is you my friend. You are the racist. You change your story every single reply. They were in pursuit. Totally reasonable and under old English law legal to take him into citizens arrest.

Explain to me based on the Georgia BAR standard I posted when they did in fact effect an arrest.

You really are just turtled up. When they and Roddy struck him with their vehicles that was also aggravated assault. The three of them set out to catch a petty thief and ended up committing multiple felonies.

your criminal hero had committed the act of trespass likely burglary attempted carjacking and assault before he was finally shot by Travis McMichael who was sustaining a direct attack on his person at the time of the shooting

you're manic disjointed posting style smacks of someone that is emotionally involved and that's understandable because you're trying to defend a mentally retarded career criminal that got caught in the act

In Georgia. I keep repeating this. Only the victim could claim trespassing. And the victim could do the citizens arrest. Bystanders could not. That was the Winn Dixie decision by the Appeals Court. Remember?

You have to catch the guy in the act. The only thing the McMichaels caught him doing was trying to avoid people committing felonies.

I know. You do not understand this. The lawyers representing the accused certainly do. And that is why they are pointing fingers at each other. It’s his fault not mine. I didn’t do it.

That is BULLCHIT and inaccurate.

the McMichaels had an immediate knowledge that he was a wanted criminal for the repeated trespasses on Larry Englishs property

It could be trouble for the McMichaels because Larry English is one of the world's most worthless pieces of human garbage and a complete coward who is trying to distance himself from all the things he did that inspired the neighborhood to try to catch this guy

it's very likely that Larry English tries to throw the McMichaels under the bus because he doesn't want to get any more death threats, that's why he's doing something as ridiculous as claiming nothing was stolen when there's a bunch of YouTube videos of his 911 calls detailing the things that were stolen

I think Larry English and William Roddy Bryant are a couple of complete freaking cowards and I would like to see both of them charged in this case somehow however the McMichaels did nothing wrong and we're simply responding to the information they were given in a perfectly legal and logical manner

The McMichaels were acting on immediate knowledge that English provided----which means they had the legal right to make a citizens arrest.

Bullshit. They had no right to make a citizens arrest under Georgia law. Please review your facts.

I did review the facts..I looked up Georgias laws--they had a right to make a citizens arrest of this habitual stupid criminal.

You are simply wrong. And the jury will decide it.

i AM SIMPLY RIGHT-----

the law is clear.

and these witch hunts to destroy anyone who opposes communism or criminals has got to end.

When you run out of arguments just type all caps and say you're right.
In fact you are not. Me an SavannahMan have gone through the law and the circumstances of this case. There was no justification-zero-for shooting Arbery. And the McMichaels will do long prison terms for it.

You and Savannahman? Well aren't you two special.....I guess I should just stop thinking for myself since I got you to already issuing a verdict........

NOT.


I read the law, I think for myself unlike weak minded clowns---------when Arbery (a convicted felon no less) tried to grab their gun, they gained the right to shoot him in self defence.

You just cannot let go of your silly ideas, can you? This has been demonstrated to you over and over. The McMichaels initiated the incident. They had no justification for doing what they did. You cannot threaten a person with a gun and then shoot him when he tries to resist and claim self defense. That simply won't fly.