Project 2025

[Rawley]

The Trumpsters don't even know what they're fucking denying.

As expected.

You call yourself a Trumpster? LOL

 

[MarcATL]

That any of you have actually read it.

I'm waiting...

 

[FranklinRoosevelt_FTW]

If you morons actually cared about the 1st amendment, you wouldn’t advocating for the US to be a “Christian nation”. You only care about your OWN free speech. You’re too immature, stupid, and self righteous to have any real principles.

I did not advocate for the US to become a theocracy. Christian values have always played a role in our country and they you continue to do so. And here you guys are again making things up about other posters. You can’t go by what people say so you try and tell people how they think.


Project 2025 wants to eliminate racism and that includes DEI and anti-white racism. That is a principal approach.

We should definitely punish companies who promote DEI because it’s a horrible thing and it makes it difficult for people to get jobs

 

[Billy000]

We are a majority Christian nation

Your childish ad hominum attack on the OP is what is immature

I don’t fucking care about this “majority” bullshit. Go fuck yourselves. There’s nothing in the constitution that says we are one.

 

[Leweman]

I have never heard of it until dems mentioned it. I have never read it. I am okay with it because dems are not.

 

[whitehall]

Project 2025 popping up again? What you see posted on the internet isn't Project 2025, it's left wing spin pretending to be Project 2025.

 

[Kilroy2]

replace civil service-style employees with political appointees in its ranks.

Also to privatize it which would mean it has to make a profit

“Our goal is to assemble an army of aligned, vetted, trained, and prepared conservatives to go to work on Day One to deconstruct the Administrative State,” the manual states.

I wonder how well political appointees really work.

They want to make it a political issue now. Military Benefits are for those who serve.

Its should not be a political thing.

So Abortion and gender identity will be part of the decision process.

It doesn't matter if you served in the military

It will be like the current supreme court

Job application --Conservative check here

What does Project 2025 mean for military veterans?

Project 2025 calls for changes to veteran healthcare, disability claims, VA personnel, infrastructure and more privatization overall.

taskandpurpose.com

 

[OldFlame]

OP, can you cite one myth from "the left" about 2025 that's not true?

Wasn't that hard to find.

MYTHS VS. FACTS ABOUT PROJECT 2025
We are not affiliated with former President Trump. We are a coalition of more than 110 conservative groups advocating policy and personnel recommendations.

1. End no fault divorce: FALSE Divorce is not mentioned in our policy handbook, Mandate for Leadership.

2. Complete ban on abortions without exceptions: FALSE Mandate for Leadership calls for the government to comply with laws that prevent federal funding of abortion. It also calls for federal support for alternatives to abortion, including adoption.

3. Ban contraceptives: FALSE Mandate for Leadership says nothing about banning or restricting contraception.

4. Additional tax breaks for corporations and the 1%: MISLEADING Mandate for Leadership calls for LOWER taxes for ALL Americans, to stimulate economic growth and put more money in Americans’ pockets.

5. Higher taxes for the working class: FALSE Mandate for Leadership calls for LOWER taxes for ALL Americans. Individuals spend their money in more productive ways than the government does.

6. Elimination of unions and worker protections: FALSE Mandate for Leadership presents different ideas about a conservative labor policy. It calls for combatting the excesses of the Deep State’s bloated federal employee unions, which have ensured that federal employees keep their jobs even if they engage in illegal behavior or perform their jobs poorly.

7. Raise the retirement age: FALSE Raising the retirement age is nowhere advocated in Mandate for Leadership.

8. Cut Social Security: FALSE Mandate for Leadership does not advocate cutting Social Security.

9. End Affordable Care Act: FALSE Mandate for Leadership offers policy suggestions to curb the abuses of the Affordable Care Act.

10. Raise prescription drug prices: FALSE Mandate for Leadership offers proposals to lower drug prices through competition and innovation.

11. Eliminate the Department of Education: TRUE Mandate for Leadership calls for an end to the Department of Education. Since the Department was created, educational outcomes have not improved, and the American school system has increasingly fallen behind other countries. Giving more control back to state and local governments and expanding school choice would improve education outcomes for all Americans, especially underprivileged communities. Some functions of the Department would be moved to other departments including Labor, Justice, and Commerce.

12. Use public, taxpayer money for private religious schools: TRUE Americans are able to use taxpayer money to choose where they shop for groceries, attain housing, and obtain higher education. Religious schools often outperform public schools, and families should have the choice to send their children to these schools.

13. Teach Christian religious beliefs in public schools: FALSE Mandate for Leadership advocates for all educational opportunities, and for parental rights in education.

14. End free and discounted school lunch programs: FALSE Mandate for Leadership advocates that the Food and Nutrition Service be moved from the Department of Agriculture to the Department of Health and Human Services. Mandate condemns the Biden administration’s decision to threaten schools that do not comply with radical transgender policies by taking away their funding for school meals for needy students. Additionally, Mandate supports prioritizing school meal programs for those students who are truly needy, not creating an entitlement for almost all students regardless of family income levels.

15. End civil rights and DEI protections in government: MOSTLY FALSE Mandate for Leadership calls for respecting the civil rights of all Americans, including those who have been censored by the government or had it weaponized against them. Mandate advocates for the end of divisive, race-based, anti-American propaganda in the federal workforce.

16. Ban African American and gender studies in all levels of education: FALSE Mandate for Leadership does not mention African American studies or gender studies.

17. Ban books and curriculum about slavery: FALSE Mandate for Leadership does not advocate for banning books or curriculum about slavery.

18. Ending climate protections: FALSEMandate for Leadership advocates policies that will produce economic growth through abundant, affordable energy. Famers, hunters, and fishers know how to protect our environment better than D.C. bureaucrats. The Biden administration’s relentless focus on climate has made America less competitive and wasted crucial taxpayer dollars.

19. Increase Arctic drilling: TRUE The Arctic is of immense strategic importance to America. Mandate for Leadership advocates a strong pursuit of American interests in the region, through economic freedom, through ensuring free and open shipping lanes, and through the development of the vast energy resources of the Arctic.

20. Deregulate big business and the oil industry: MOSTLY TRUE America needs energy that is plentiful and affordable. Mandate for Leadership calls for an all-of-the-above energy policy that would promote the development of our domestic energy supply, and for fewer burdensome regulations for ALL businesses.

21. Promote and expedite capital punishment: TRUE The appropriateness of capital punishment divides Americans, and conservatives, of good will. Mandate for Leadership calls for the enforcement of the federal death penalty where appropriate and applicable, and recommends a future presidential administration pursue the death penalty for the most heinous crimes, including those involving violence and the sexual abuse of children, unless Congress says otherwise through legislation.

22. End marriage equality: FALSE The legal recognition of same-sex marriage is not discussed in Mandate for Leadership. Mandate calls for the protection of faith-based grant recipients who maintain support for the traditional definition of marriage. Mandate also supports conscience protections for those who do not wish to participate in same-sex marriages.

23. Condemn single mothers while promoting only “traditional families”: FALSE Mandate suggests that a future HHS Secretary replace the policies of the Biden administration that prioritize LGBTQ+ equality, subsidize single motherhood, disincentivize work, and penalize marriage with policies that instead encourage marriage, work, motherhood, fatherhood, and nuclear families.

24. Defund the FBI and Homeland Security: FALSE Mandate for Leadership supports de-weaponizing the federal government, including the FBI. Mandate’s chapter on the Department of Homeland Security advocates the legislative creation of a standalone Cabinet-level agency with a focus on the border and immigration, including U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CPB), Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS), the Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR), the Executive Office of Immigration Review (EOIR), and the Office of Immigration Litigation (OIL). It also recommends that legislation be pursued to move other component parts of DHS to other agencies, including the Department of Transportation, the Department of Defense, the Department of the Treasury, and the FBI.

25. Use military to break up domestic protests: FALSE The “protests” referenced in Mandate for Leadership are protests in Iran against its anti-American leadership; and protests of parents at school board meetings in opposition to critical race theory and COVID mandates. Both protests are referenced positively. Mandate also protests the FBI’s harassment of protesting parents and condemns the arrest by armed FBI agents of a man who had protested at an abortion clinic a year earlier.

26. Mass deportation of immigrants and incarceration in “camps”: MISLEADINGMandate supports an orderly and lawful immigration system. It advocates that the Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s Office of Removal Operations be primarily responsible for enforcing civil immigration regulations, including the removal of those who have violated our immigration laws. It also calls for additional resources to put an end to President Biden’s border crisis and enforce immigration laws.

27. End birthright citizenship: FALSE There is no mention of ending birthright citizenship in Mandate for Leadership.

28. Ban Muslims from entering the country: FALSE There is no mention of banning Muslims from entering the United States in Mandate for Leadership.

29. Eliminate federal agencies like the FDA, EPA, NOAA and more: FALSE Mandate for Leadership’s plan would not eliminate the FDA or the EPA, and NOAA’s functions would be transferred to other agencies, the private sector, and states and territories.

30. Continue to pack the Supreme Court and lower courts with right-wing judges: FALSE The only people calling for packing the judiciary are those on the Left, who do it every time the Supreme Court or a lower court makes decisions they don’t like.

 

[OldFlame]

The Trumpsters don't even know what they're fucking denying.

As expected.

 

[Darkwind]

I heard a little bit about this from the biased left-wing media. They obviously are biased and a disgrace to the country. With their bias coverage of the BLM riots compared to January 6, for example

Anyway, I briefly looked at project 2025 The project 2025 is not at all racist from what I’ve seen. They actually want to eliminate racism including anti-white racism. They want to criminalize pornography. They want to Make abortion illegal.

There are some things I might disagree with like taking some of the funding away from Medicaid and Medicare.

Also Christian values would play more of a role in the government which is something that’s not controversial. It’s always played a part in our countries history and we are a Christian majority country. Realize that many of the charitable groups in the world are Christian based.

The lying and bad politics from Democrats is hopefully going to end. I bet some of them never even read what project 2025 is about. Apparently, Mr. Trump does not endorse project 2025 but maybe he should. Democrats make Project 2025 out as if it is something from the devil and it’s once again something they blatantly lie about. Please just educate yourself on the project itself,

Project 2025: The myths and the facts

The sweeping conservative plan for Trump's second term is very real. Here’s what it actually says.

www.vox.com

Project 2025 | Presidential Transition Project

Presidential Transition Project The 2025 Presidential Transition Project paves the way for an effective conservative Administration based on four pillars.

www.project2025.org

I can guarantee you that most of them (98%) have not read the document. For one thing, the words are too large for many of them. And it has triggering statements like "Liberty," "Responsibility," and "Freedom."

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Wasn't that hard to find.

MYTHS VS. FACTS ABOUT PROJECT 2025
We are not affiliated with former President Trump. We are a coalition of more than 110 conservative groups advocating policy and personnel recommendations.

1. End no fault divorce: FALSE Divorce is not mentioned in our policy handbook, Mandate for Leadership.

2. Complete ban on abortions without exceptions: FALSE Mandate for Leadership calls for the government to comply with laws that prevent federal funding of abortion. It also calls for federal support for alternatives to abortion, including adoption.

3. Ban contraceptives: FALSE Mandate for Leadership says nothing about banning or restricting contraception.

4. Additional tax breaks for corporations and the 1%: MISLEADING Mandate for Leadership calls for LOWER taxes for ALL Americans, to stimulate economic growth and put more money in Americans’ pockets.

5. Higher taxes for the working class: FALSE Mandate for Leadership calls for LOWER taxes for ALL Americans. Individuals spend their money in more productive ways than the government does.

6. Elimination of unions and worker protections: FALSE Mandate for Leadership presents different ideas about a conservative labor policy. It calls for combatting the excesses of the Deep State’s bloated federal employee unions, which have ensured that federal employees keep their jobs even if they engage in illegal behavior or perform their jobs poorly.

7. Raise the retirement age: FALSE Raising the retirement age is nowhere advocated in Mandate for Leadership.

8. Cut Social Security: FALSE Mandate for Leadership does not advocate cutting Social Security.

9. End Affordable Care Act: FALSE Mandate for Leadership offers policy suggestions to curb the abuses of the Affordable Care Act.

10. Raise prescription drug prices: FALSE Mandate for Leadership offers proposals to lower drug prices through competition and innovation.

11. Eliminate the Department of Education: TRUE Mandate for Leadership calls for an end to the Department of Education. Since the Department was created, educational outcomes have not improved, and the American school system has increasingly fallen behind other countries. Giving more control back to state and local governments and expanding school choice would improve education outcomes for all Americans, especially underprivileged communities. Some functions of the Department would be moved to other departments including Labor, Justice, and Commerce.

12. Use public, taxpayer money for private religious schools: TRUE Americans are able to use taxpayer money to choose where they shop for groceries, attain housing, and obtain higher education. Religious schools often outperform public schools, and families should have the choice to send their children to these schools.

13. Teach Christian religious beliefs in public schools: FALSE Mandate for Leadership advocates for all educational opportunities, and for parental rights in education.

14. End free and discounted school lunch programs: FALSE Mandate for Leadership advocates that the Food and Nutrition Service be moved from the Department of Agriculture to the Department of Health and Human Services. Mandate condemns the Biden administration’s decision to threaten schools that do not comply with radical transgender policies by taking away their funding for school meals for needy students. Additionally, Mandate supports prioritizing school meal programs for those students who are truly needy, not creating an entitlement for almost all students regardless of family income levels.

15. End civil rights and DEI protections in government: MOSTLY FALSE Mandate for Leadership calls for respecting the civil rights of all Americans, including those who have been censored by the government or had it weaponized against them. Mandate advocates for the end of divisive, race-based, anti-American propaganda in the federal workforce.

16. Ban African American and gender studies in all levels of education: FALSE Mandate for Leadership does not mention African American studies or gender studies.

17. Ban books and curriculum about slavery: FALSE Mandate for Leadership does not advocate for banning books or curriculum about slavery.

18. Ending climate protections: FALSEMandate for Leadership advocates policies that will produce economic growth through abundant, affordable energy. Famers, hunters, and fishers know how to protect our environment better than D.C. bureaucrats. The Biden administration’s relentless focus on climate has made America less competitive and wasted crucial taxpayer dollars.

19. Increase Arctic drilling: TRUE The Arctic is of immense strategic importance to America. Mandate for Leadership advocates a strong pursuit of American interests in the region, through economic freedom, through ensuring free and open shipping lanes, and through the development of the vast energy resources of the Arctic.

20. Deregulate big business and the oil industry: MOSTLY TRUE America needs energy that is plentiful and affordable. Mandate for Leadership calls for an all-of-the-above energy policy that would promote the development of our domestic energy supply, and for fewer burdensome regulations for ALL businesses.

21. Promote and expedite capital punishment: TRUE The appropriateness of capital punishment divides Americans, and conservatives, of good will. Mandate for Leadership calls for the enforcement of the federal death penalty where appropriate and applicable, and recommends a future presidential administration pursue the death penalty for the most heinous crimes, including those involving violence and the sexual abuse of children, unless Congress says otherwise through legislation.

22. End marriage equality: FALSE The legal recognition of same-sex marriage is not discussed in Mandate for Leadership. Mandate calls for the protection of faith-based grant recipients who maintain support for the traditional definition of marriage. Mandate also supports conscience protections for those who do not wish to participate in same-sex marriages.

23. Condemn single mothers while promoting only “traditional families”: FALSE Mandate suggests that a future HHS Secretary replace the policies of the Biden administration that prioritize LGBTQ+ equality, subsidize single motherhood, disincentivize work, and penalize marriage with policies that instead encourage marriage, work, motherhood, fatherhood, and nuclear families.

24. Defund the FBI and Homeland Security: FALSE Mandate for Leadership supports de-weaponizing the federal government, including the FBI. Mandate’s chapter on the Department of Homeland Security advocates the legislative creation of a standalone Cabinet-level agency with a focus on the border and immigration, including U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CPB), Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS), the Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR), the Executive Office of Immigration Review (EOIR), and the Office of Immigration Litigation (OIL). It also recommends that legislation be pursued to move other component parts of DHS to other agencies, including the Department of Transportation, the Department of Defense, the Department of the Treasury, and the FBI.

25. Use military to break up domestic protests: FALSE The “protests” referenced in Mandate for Leadership are protests in Iran against its anti-American leadership; and protests of parents at school board meetings in opposition to critical race theory and COVID mandates. Both protests are referenced positively. Mandate also protests the FBI’s harassment of protesting parents and condemns the arrest by armed FBI agents of a man who had protested at an abortion clinic a year earlier.

26. Mass deportation of immigrants and incarceration in “camps”: MISLEADINGMandate supports an orderly and lawful immigration system. It advocates that the Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s Office of Removal Operations be primarily responsible for enforcing civil immigration regulations, including the removal of those who have violated our immigration laws. It also calls for additional resources to put an end to President Biden’s border crisis and enforce immigration laws.

27. End birthright citizenship: FALSE There is no mention of ending birthright citizenship in Mandate for Leadership.

28. Ban Muslims from entering the country: FALSE There is no mention of banning Muslims from entering the United States in Mandate for Leadership.

29. Eliminate federal agencies like the FDA, EPA, NOAA and more: FALSE Mandate for Leadership’s plan would not eliminate the FDA or the EPA, and NOAA’s functions would be transferred to other agencies, the private sector, and states and territories.

30. Continue to pack the Supreme Court and lower courts with right-wing judges: FALSE The only people calling for packing the judiciary are those on the Left, who do it every time the Supreme Court or a lower court makes decisions they don’t like.

really?

 

[Darkwind]

I'm waiting...

you haven't read it, have you?

 

[Darkwind]

really?

View attachment 981806

So, cannot respond. Is that because yo have not read it? What am I saying, of course you haven't.

 

[FranklinRoosevelt_FTW]

You forgot the part about Project 2025's plan to eliminate Social Security and drastically cut veteran's benefits.
That's convenient.

I haven’t read the whole thing have you. It’s a 900+ page document so again have you read the whole thing?

There’s a lot of things in there that are common sense, like eliminating racism. They seem to support community values. People being nice to each other. Respecting American history.

And within project 2025 some of its writers disagree on certain topics with each other that would include things like Social Security and veterans benefits. Which unless you can show an actual bullet point from the project who knows of what you’re saying is accurate. But again within the 900 page document the writers disagree with each other on certain things so it’s not a finalized item.

And again, I’ve said I might disagree with some of its points, including on Medicaid. But one thing that I certainly agree with is to put an end to affirmative action and DEI, which constitutes blatant racism against white men.

Also, it’s a good idea to ban pornography because of the situation we have in this country with the most single young people in our countries history.

Let’s endorse a Meritocracy..

 

[OldFlame]

I'm waiting...

Not anymore, I answered your question. I'm sure you'll change your opinion on it now, right?

 

[Darkwind]

replace civil service-style employees with political appointees in its ranks.

Also to privatize it which would mean it has to make a profit

“Our goal is to assemble an army of aligned, vetted, trained, and prepared conservatives to go to work on Day One to deconstruct the Administrative State,” the manual states.

I wonder how well political appointees really work.

They want to make it a political issue now. Military Benefits are for those who serve.

Its should not be a political thing.

So Abortion and gender identity will be part of the decision process.

It doesn't matter if you served in the military

It will be like the current supreme court

Job application --Conservative check here

What does Project 2025 mean for military veterans?

Project 2025 calls for changes to veteran healthcare, disability claims, VA personnel, infrastructure and more privatization overall.

taskandpurpose.com

Some of what you said is wrong. Abortion and Gender will NOT be part of the decision process.

But I guess I have to wonder at your objection.

After all, everything you just said is already being pushed and accomplished by the left, only they are/have inserted their ideology into it. Is this, its okay if we do it, but not for you?

 

[Concerned American]

The president didn't encourage the BLM demonstrations.

Harris did.

 

[initforme]

Sounds like a way to hammer away at the working poor.

 

[Concerned American]

it reminds me of left wing climate change paranoia

or QANON, remember that one?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

So, cannot respond. Is that because yo have not read it? What am I saying, of course you haven't.

cultist!