The people are not choosing who gets the delegates in North Dakota , 11 state party leaders are~

[Cecilie1200]

You wouldn't have a problem with this if trump had won.

Study up on how a republic works

Every state has different rules. Imo that is absurd when the rules in one state affect another in national elections. For instance why do we let a handful of farmers in Iowa set the tone for the rest of the nation? (Nothing against farmers btw)
The primary process is in desperate need of streamlining. We are no longer a nation of millions but rather hundreds of millions.

States should control how their delegates are chosen. Lets not give the federal government more power.

Having a standardized set of rules is not giving the Feds more power. Why should getting a license to drive be similar across all states but the rules for selecting candidates for the most powerful job in the world be different in every state.
Super delegates
Proportional delegates
Coin tosses
Standing in crowds for hours on end
All or nothing delegates

It's all ridiculous. With uniformity comes transparency & trust.

One problem there. Political parties aren't part of the government, and it's none of the government's business how they decide who they will and won't support in an election. Nor should it be.

Ultimately, if I don't like how one party chooses who to support, then it's up to me to either find a party whose internal procedures I do like, or start my own party. Or, I suppose, gain enough power in the original party to effect change.

At no point is the solution to increase government control of anything.

 

[Cecilie1200]

You wouldn't have a problem with this if trump had won.

Study up on how a republic works

Every state has different rules. Imo that is absurd when the rules in one state affect another in national elections. For instance why do we let a handful of farmers in Iowa set the tone for the rest of the nation? (Nothing against farmers btw)
The primary process is in desperate need of streamlining. We are no longer a nation of millions but rather hundreds of millions.

States should control how their delegates are chosen. Lets not give the federal government more power.

Why would the federal government control anything about how political parties choose who to put forward in an election? The parties aren't affiliated with or part of the government, and the last thing this country needs is even more government control over things.

What I am suggesting would give the people more control not the establishment or the government. Up to this point it's been their rules & look where we've ended up.

It's their rules because it's their party. Political parties are private entities, not public, and beholden to voters only insofar as they need us to agree to vote for their nominees in official government-run elections. A big part of why we are where we are is because people don't bother to learn the reality instead of the perception, and then they get their panties all in a ruffle when the two turn out to be different.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

You wouldn't have a problem with this if trump had won.

Study up on how a republic works

Every state has different rules. Imo that is absurd when the rules in one state affect another in national elections. For instance why do we let a handful of farmers in Iowa set the tone for the rest of the nation? (Nothing against farmers btw)
The primary process is in desperate need of streamlining. We are no longer a nation of millions but rather hundreds of millions.

States should control how their delegates are chosen. Lets not give the federal government more power.

Why would the federal government control anything about how political parties choose who to put forward in an election? The parties aren't affiliated with or part of the government, and the last thing this country needs is even more government control over things.

What I am suggesting would give the people more control not the establishment or the government. Up to this point it's been their rules & look where we've ended up.

It's their rules because it's their party. Political parties are private entities, not public, and beholden to voters only insofar as they need us to agree to vote for their nominees in official government-run elections. A big part of why we are where we are is because people don't bother to learn the reality instead of the perception, and then they get their panties all in a ruffle when the two turn out to be different.

I stand behind my position. I do understand yours though.

 

[Eaglewings]

I find this to be a easy way to sway the votes for delegates ~ who is voting in this process?

Who gets to choose the delegates?

The 25 delegates to the national convention will be selected by a group of 11 state party leaders in North Dakota, called the Permanent Committee on Organization(including Haugland). That committee is made up of the Republican National Committeeman and the Republican National Committeewoman for North Dakota, Sandy Boehler, state GOP Chairman Kelly Armstrong and two members from each region of the state who are chosen by the regional GOP chairs.

In order to be considered, potential delegates had to submit an application to the state Republican Party by Monday that's signed by the applicant's district chair.

• 
  
  
  • Senator Kelly Armstrong, Chairman
  • Jim Poolman, Vice Chairman
  • Carma Hanson, Vice Chairwoman
  • Kyle Handegard, Secretary
  • Shane Goettle, Treasurer
  • Curly Haugland, National Committeeman
  • Sandy Boehler, National Committeewoman

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Why North Dakota GOP voters don't vote in the presidential nomination process

Were you just born yesterday? "The people" don't choose ANYTHING regarding party primaries, and they never have. The people express their opinion, and the parties take it under advisement when THEY decide who is and isn't going to represent them. I'm very sorry that this is news to you, but it's not new and different in any way.

This is the first time that I have followed the delegates, I never had time before now,

So you think it is ok for the secret Super Pac's running our country and we have 0 say in that corruption?

.

 

[Cecilie1200]

I find this to be a easy way to sway the votes for delegates ~ who is voting in this process?

Who gets to choose the delegates?

The 25 delegates to the national convention will be selected by a group of 11 state party leaders in North Dakota, called the Permanent Committee on Organization(including Haugland). That committee is made up of the Republican National Committeeman and the Republican National Committeewoman for North Dakota, Sandy Boehler, state GOP Chairman Kelly Armstrong and two members from each region of the state who are chosen by the regional GOP chairs.

In order to be considered, potential delegates had to submit an application to the state Republican Party by Monday that's signed by the applicant's district chair.

• 
  
  
  • Senator Kelly Armstrong, Chairman
  • Jim Poolman, Vice Chairman
  • Carma Hanson, Vice Chairwoman
  • Kyle Handegard, Secretary
  • Shane Goettle, Treasurer
  • Curly Haugland, National Committeeman
  • Sandy Boehler, National Committeewoman

[[13]



Why North Dakota GOP voters don't vote in the presidential nomination process

Were you just born yesterday? "The people" don't choose ANYTHING regarding party primaries, and they never have. The people express their opinion, and the parties take it under advisement when THEY decide who is and isn't going to represent them. I'm very sorry that this is news to you, but it's not new and different in any way.

This is the first time that I have followed the delegates, I never had time before now,

So you think it is ok for the secret Super Pac's running our country and we have 0 say in that corruption?

.

I think it's okay for free and legal citizens to support whomever they want and exercise their freedom of political speech via putting their money where their mouths are as they see fit, so long as it meets legal standards. Your envy and hatred that other people have more money to support their causes with than you do is of no interest to me. Neither is the fact that you just clued in to how political parties work, and now feel outraged. I do not, in fact, think you should have any say in how other people spend their money or what causes and candidates they support.

Political parties are private entities. They always have been. You are not obligated to join them, or to vote for their candidates. You are as welcome to go out and start your own political party and put forth your own candidate for consideration as anyone else is. The fact that you do not have the money to gain any serious notice for your party or candidate does not obligate anyone else to ask your opinion of who THEY support.

 

[Avatar4321]

If we've learned anything during this election cycle it's that the primary process for BOTH parties is LONG OVERDUE for an overhaul

I agree. Do away with early voting and open primaries. Republicans should be picking the Republican nominee.

Minnesota is planning to move to a primary system after all the turn out for the caucus.

There will be changes.

So you feel that we as the people should have zero say in who we want to run for president...?

Without the people having a say and only 11 decide I can see how payoffs can happen to get who they want in office.

.

Funny you weren't complaining about this Saturday when trumps slate of delegates was recommended by those officials. But when Cruz wins his in an actual vote of those participating you have a problem and start whining about the people.

If people want more of a say in their party they should participate in the party. And if they aren't going to inform themselves and participate why should the party take their considerations?

Btw I'm fairly sure the people were accurately represented. Trump didn't even have enough volunteers to man the table the entire convention. That doesn't scream popular support from the people. Kind of sad that they didn't even ship in some national campaign people in

 

[Eaglewings]

I find this to be a easy way to sway the votes for delegates ~ who is voting in this process?

Who gets to choose the delegates?

The 25 delegates to the national convention will be selected by a group of 11 state party leaders in North Dakota, called the Permanent Committee on Organization(including Haugland). That committee is made up of the Republican National Committeeman and the Republican National Committeewoman for North Dakota, Sandy Boehler, state GOP Chairman Kelly Armstrong and two members from each region of the state who are chosen by the regional GOP chairs.

In order to be considered, potential delegates had to submit an application to the state Republican Party by Monday that's signed by the applicant's district chair.

• 
  
  
  • Senator Kelly Armstrong, Chairman
  • Jim Poolman, Vice Chairman
  • Carma Hanson, Vice Chairwoman
  • Kyle Handegard, Secretary
  • Shane Goettle, Treasurer
  • Curly Haugland, National Committeeman
  • Sandy Boehler, National Committeewoman

[[13]



Why North Dakota GOP voters don't vote in the presidential nomination process

Were you just born yesterday? "The people" don't choose ANYTHING regarding party primaries, and they never have. The people express their opinion, and the parties take it under advisement when THEY decide who is and isn't going to represent them. I'm very sorry that this is news to you, but it's not new and different in any way.

This is the first time that I have followed the delegates, I never had time before now,

So you think it is ok for the secret Super Pac's running our country and we have 0 say in that corruption?

.

I think it's okay for free and legal citizens to support whomever they want and exercise their freedom of political speech via putting their money where their mouths are as they see fit, so long as it meets legal standards. Your envy and hatred that other people have more money to support their causes with than you do is of no interest to me. Neither is the fact that you just clued in to how political parties work, and now feel outraged. I do not, in fact, think you should have any say in how other people spend their money or what causes and candidates they support.

Political parties are private entities. They always have been. You are not obligated to join them, or to vote for their candidates. You are as welcome to go out and start your own political party and put forth your own candidate for consideration as anyone else is. The fact that you do not have the money to gain any serious notice for your party or candidate does not obligate anyone else to ask your opinion of who THEY support.

You do not know what the fuck your talking about saying I am envious of the rich people...I am wealthy , and my husband was Mayor of my area for ten years. So stop with your stupid manipulation and lies of someone you don't even know..

It is not ok for these huge secret donations funding large amounts of money without transparency. There is so much corruption behind the scenes with huge amounts of backing by the Big Pharma, Wall street, the Koch Brothers, Soro's, Sheldon...These people are running our country right now.
I went through cancer treatment 2 times, and I have seen the big pharma and medical scams, insurance scams getting away with it, for the hush money. If you think that is ok , you are fucked up.

The people who are voted, and those voting them into office should have complete transparency and these dirty little secrets with money should be out in the open with each and every person we are paying to run our country.

.

 

[Avatar4321]

I find this to be a easy way to sway the votes for delegates ~ who is voting in this process?

Who gets to choose the delegates?

The 25 delegates to the national convention will be selected by a group of 11 state party leaders in North Dakota, called the Permanent Committee on Organization(including Haugland). That committee is made up of the Republican National Committeeman and the Republican National Committeewoman for North Dakota, Sandy Boehler, state GOP Chairman Kelly Armstrong and two members from each region of the state who are chosen by the regional GOP chairs.

In order to be considered, potential delegates had to submit an application to the state Republican Party by Monday that's signed by the applicant's district chair.

• 
  
  
  • Senator Kelly Armstrong, Chairman
  • Jim Poolman, Vice Chairman
  • Carma Hanson, Vice Chairwoman
  • Kyle Handegard, Secretary
  • Shane Goettle, Treasurer
  • Curly Haugland, National Committeeman
  • Sandy Boehler, National Committeewoman

[[13]



Why North Dakota GOP voters don't vote in the presidential nomination process

Were you just born yesterday? "The people" don't choose ANYTHING regarding party primaries, and they never have. The people express their opinion, and the parties take it under advisement when THEY decide who is and isn't going to represent them. I'm very sorry that this is news to you, but it's not new and different in any way.

This is the first time that I have followed the delegates, I never had time before now,

So you think it is ok for the secret Super Pac's running our country and we have 0 say in that corruption?

.

What secret super PACs are running the country and how do you know about them?

 

[Eaglewings]

If we've learned anything during this election cycle it's that the primary process for BOTH parties is LONG OVERDUE for an overhaul

I agree. Do away with early voting and open primaries. Republicans should be picking the Republican nominee.

Minnesota is planning to move to a primary system after all the turn out for the caucus.

There will be changes.

So you feel that we as the people should have zero say in who we want to run for president...?

Without the people having a say and only 11 decide I can see how payoffs can happen to get who they want in office.

.

Funny you weren't complaining about this Saturday when trumps slate of delegates was recommended by those officials. But when Cruz wins his in an actual vote of those participating you have a problem and start whining about the people.

If people want more of a say in their party they should participate in the party. And if they aren't going to inform themselves and participate why should the party take their considerations?

Btw I'm fairly sure the people were accurately represented. Trump didn't even have enough volunteers to man the table the entire convention. That doesn't scream popular support from the people. Kind of sad that they didn't even ship in some national campaign people in

I was on a trip last week without the internet except for a few stops in different ports, so I didn't see what happened with Trump..
Except for your stupid picture with empty seats yesterday...Someone could have set that picture up in their own home.

.

 

[Avatar4321]

I find this to be a easy way to sway the votes for delegates ~ who is voting in this process?

Who gets to choose the delegates?

The 25 delegates to the national convention will be selected by a group of 11 state party leaders in North Dakota, called the Permanent Committee on Organization(including Haugland). That committee is made up of the Republican National Committeeman and the Republican National Committeewoman for North Dakota, Sandy Boehler, state GOP Chairman Kelly Armstrong and two members from each region of the state who are chosen by the regional GOP chairs.

In order to be considered, potential delegates had to submit an application to the state Republican Party by Monday that's signed by the applicant's district chair.

• 
  
  
  • Senator Kelly Armstrong, Chairman
  • Jim Poolman, Vice Chairman
  • Carma Hanson, Vice Chairwoman
  • Kyle Handegard, Secretary
  • Shane Goettle, Treasurer
  • Curly Haugland, National Committeeman
  • Sandy Boehler, National Committeewoman

[[13]



Why North Dakota GOP voters don't vote in the presidential nomination process

Were you just born yesterday? "The people" don't choose ANYTHING regarding party primaries, and they never have. The people express their opinion, and the parties take it under advisement when THEY decide who is and isn't going to represent them. I'm very sorry that this is news to you, but it's not new and different in any way.

This is the first time that I have followed the delegates, I never had time before now,

So you think it is ok for the secret Super Pac's running our country and we have 0 say in that corruption?

.

I think it's okay for free and legal citizens to support whomever they want and exercise their freedom of political speech via putting their money where their mouths are as they see fit, so long as it meets legal standards. Your envy and hatred that other people have more money to support their causes with than you do is of no interest to me. Neither is the fact that you just clued in to how political parties work, and now feel outraged. I do not, in fact, think you should have any say in how other people spend their money or what causes and candidates they support.

Political parties are private entities. They always have been. You are not obligated to join them, or to vote for their candidates. You are as welcome to go out and start your own political party and put forth your own candidate for consideration as anyone else is. The fact that you do not have the money to gain any serious notice for your party or candidate does not obligate anyone else to ask your opinion of who THEY support.

You do not know what the fuck your talking about saying I am envious of the rich people...I am wealthy , and my husband was Mayor of my area for ten years. So stop with your stupid manipulation and lies of someone you don't even know..

It is not ok for these huge secret donations funding large amounts of money without transparency. There is so much corruption behind the scenes with huge amounts of backing by the Big Pharma, Wall street, the Koch Brothers, Soro's, Sheldon...These people are running our country right now.
I went through cancer treatment 2 times, and I have seen the big pharma and medical scams, insurance scams getting away with it, for the hush money. If you think that is ok , you are fucked up.

The people who are voted, and those voting them into office should have complete transparency and these dirty little secrets with money should be out in the open with each and every person we are paying to run our country.

.

So you want trump to release his tax returns, right? total transparency.

 

[Eaglewings]

What secret super PACs are running the country and how do you know about them?

Super PACs a disaster for democracy - CNN.com

Really? lol.....BTW Citizen's United was started by the Koch brothers in the below story.

In 2010, the U.S. Supreme Court in the Citizens United case declared the corporate expenditure ban unconstitutional, holding that independent expenditures could not be constitutionally limited in federal elections, and implicitly that corporations could give unlimited amounts to other groups to spend, as long as the expenditures were made independently from the supported candidate. Subsequently, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit in the SpeechNow case held that the limits on individual contributions to groups that made independent expenditures were unconstitutional.
Thus was born the super PAC.
And thus was born the national campaign finance scandals that are unfolding daily in the 2012 elections.

Fred Wertheimer
Super PACs are federally registered political action committees that raise unlimited contributions from the super rich, corporations, labor unions and other entities and spend these funds to make "independent" expenditures in federal elections.
They are an unmitigated disaster for the American people.
A recent study by Demos and the U.S. Public Interest Group found that, as Politico reported, "Super PACs raised about $181 million in the last two years -- with roughly half of it coming from fewer than 200 super-rich people."
The study also found that 93% of the itemized contributions raised by super PACs came in contributions of $10,000 or more, with more than half of this money coming from just 37 people who each gave $500,000 or more.

• 
  Super PACs are a game for millionaires and billionaires. They are a game for corporations and other wealthy interests. Meanwhile, citizens are pushed to the sidelines to watch the corruption of our democracy.

In the 2012 presidential election, an even more insidious version of the super PAC was born -- the candidate-specific super PAC. Every significant presidential campaign has had a super PAC -- created and run by close associates of the candidate -- that raises unlimited contributions to spend only to support that presidential candidate.
Presidential candidate-specific super PACs are simply vehicles for the presidential candidates and their supporters to circumvent the limits on contributions to candidates enacted to prevent corruption. Most of the super PAC money has been spent on attack ads.
We already have seen Sheldon Adelson and his wife give $10 million to the presidential super PAC supporting Newt Gingrich. One couple! $10 million!

According to the Supreme Court's view, a corporation that spends $30 million to elect a senator will not be able to buy corrupting influence over the senator's positions because the corporation has not "coordinated" its expenditures with the senator.
Democracy 21 believes these super PACs are indeed engaging in illegally coordinated activities and is requesting the Justice Department to investigate.
Super PACs corrupt our political system in two ways.

First, super PACs allow a relatively few super-rich individuals and other wealthy interests to have greatly magnified and undue influence over the results of our elections.
Second, super PACs allow the super rich and wealthy interests to buy influence over government decisions, in the event the candidate wins.
The Supreme Court decision in the Citizens United case that unleashed this is built entirely on a fiction: that "independent" expenditures by corporations cannot have a corrupting influence on federal officeholders.
This is fantasy, not reality.
Important steps can and must be taken to deal with candidate-specific super PACs within the boundaries of the destructive Citizens United decision.

Rep. Chris Van Hollen, D-Maryland, has introduced the DISCLOSE 2012 Act to close gaping loopholes in the disclosure laws. It requires super PACs immediately to disclose their donors and campaign expenditures, and requires the PACs' top five donors, and the amounts they gave, to be listed on each of their ads. This legislation is essential to inform citizens about who is providing the money to influence their votes.
In addition, Democracy 21 is preparing legislation to shut down super PACs that are closely tied to the candidate they are supporting. The legislation would treat these super PACs legally as arms of the candidate's campaign and subject to the contribution limits that apply to the candidate.
Five Supreme Court justices have done enormous damage to our country with one of the worst decisions in the history of the court.

The DISCLOSE 2012 Act was voted down by congress last year , so these Pac's can continue on.

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[Timmy]

You wouldn't have a problem with this if trump had won.

Study up on how a republic works

Every state has different rules. Imo that is absurd when the rules in one state affect another in national elections. For instance why do we let a handful of farmers in Iowa set the tone for the rest of the nation? (Nothing against farmers btw)
The primary process is in desperate need of streamlining. We are no longer a nation of millions but rather hundreds of millions.

States should control how their delegates are chosen. Lets not give the federal government more power.

Why would the federal government control anything about how political parties choose who to put forward in an election? The parties aren't affiliated with or part of the government, and the last thing this country needs is even more government control over things.

What I am suggesting would give the people more control not the establishment or the government. Up to this point it's been their rules & look where we've ended up.

It's their rules because it's their party. Political parties are private entities, not public, and beholden to voters only insofar as they need us to agree to vote for their nominees in official government-run elections. A big part of why we are where we are is because people don't bother to learn the reality instead of the perception, and then they get their panties all in a ruffle when the two turn out to be different.

Then why do taxpayers foot the bill for all this primary nonsense?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

The parties choose their own nominee, not the people. It's always been that way.

 

[Eaglewings]

I find this to be a easy way to sway the votes for delegates ~ who is voting in this process?

Who gets to choose the delegates?

The 25 delegates to the national convention will be selected by a group of 11 state party leaders in North Dakota, called the Permanent Committee on Organization(including Haugland). That committee is made up of the Republican National Committeeman and the Republican National Committeewoman for North Dakota, Sandy Boehler, state GOP Chairman Kelly Armstrong and two members from each region of the state who are chosen by the regional GOP chairs.

In order to be considered, potential delegates had to submit an application to the state Republican Party by Monday that's signed by the applicant's district chair.

• 
  
  
  • Senator Kelly Armstrong, Chairman
  • Jim Poolman, Vice Chairman
  • Carma Hanson, Vice Chairwoman
  • Kyle Handegard, Secretary
  • Shane Goettle, Treasurer
  • Curly Haugland, National Committeeman
  • Sandy Boehler, National Committeewoman

[[13]



Why North Dakota GOP voters don't vote in the presidential nomination process

Were you just born yesterday? "The people" don't choose ANYTHING regarding party primaries, and they never have. The people express their opinion, and the parties take it under advisement when THEY decide who is and isn't going to represent them. I'm very sorry that this is news to you, but it's not new and different in any way.

This is the first time that I have followed the delegates, I never had time before now,

So you think it is ok for the secret Super Pac's running our country and we have 0 say in that corruption?

.

I think it's okay for free and legal citizens to support whomever they want and exercise their freedom of political speech via putting their money where their mouths are as they see fit, so long as it meets legal standards. Your envy and hatred that other people have more money to support their causes with than you do is of no interest to me. Neither is the fact that you just clued in to how political parties work, and now feel outraged. I do not, in fact, think you should have any say in how other people spend their money or what causes and candidates they support.

Political parties are private entities. They always have been. You are not obligated to join them, or to vote for their candidates. You are as welcome to go out and start your own political party and put forth your own candidate for consideration as anyone else is. The fact that you do not have the money to gain any serious notice for your party or candidate does not obligate anyone else to ask your opinion of who THEY support.

You do not know what the fuck your talking about saying I am envious of the rich people...I am wealthy , and my husband was Mayor of my area for ten years. So stop with your stupid manipulation and lies of someone you don't even know..

It is not ok for these huge secret donations funding large amounts of money without transparency. There is so much corruption behind the scenes with huge amounts of backing by the Big Pharma, Wall street, the Koch Brothers, Soro's, Sheldon...These people are running our country right now.
I went through cancer treatment 2 times, and I have seen the big pharma and medical scams, insurance scams getting away with it, for the hush money. If you think that is ok , you are fucked up.

The people who are voted, and those voting them into office should have complete transparency and these dirty little secrets with money should be out in the open with each and every person we are paying to run our country.

.

So you want trump to release his tax returns, right? total transparency.

I mentioned all politicians running for any political seat should have complete transparency. Why should we pay for someone who got into office because they have more money given in secrecy?

This is why Trump and Sanders are so popular because people are seeing the corruption.

Hillary's campaign is just as corrupt as the right with her Big Pharma , Wall Street donations.



.

 

[Eaglewings]

The parties choose their own nominee, not the people. It's always been that way.

Yes but the people get to vote in the primaries in most states, otherwise why are we wasting every ones money and time with these primary's?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

The parties choose their own nominee, not the people. It's always been that way.

Yes but the people get to vote in the primaries in most states, otherwise why are we wasting every ones money and time with these primary's?

You're not wasting time or money. It's called polling for reason. The parties gauge the viability of their candidates with primaries. Most of the time the winner of the primary is also the nominee. Only in rare cases do they use the delegates as a firewall to block a candidate the party doesn't wish to run. It's their party and their delegates.Trump will definately test this process.

 

[Cecilie1200]

I find this to be a easy way to sway the votes for delegates ~ who is voting in this process?

Who gets to choose the delegates?

The 25 delegates to the national convention will be selected by a group of 11 state party leaders in North Dakota, called the Permanent Committee on Organization(including Haugland). That committee is made up of the Republican National Committeeman and the Republican National Committeewoman for North Dakota, Sandy Boehler, state GOP Chairman Kelly Armstrong and two members from each region of the state who are chosen by the regional GOP chairs.

In order to be considered, potential delegates had to submit an application to the state Republican Party by Monday that's signed by the applicant's district chair.

• 
  
  
  • Senator Kelly Armstrong, Chairman
  • Jim Poolman, Vice Chairman
  • Carma Hanson, Vice Chairwoman
  • Kyle Handegard, Secretary
  • Shane Goettle, Treasurer
  • Curly Haugland, National Committeeman
  • Sandy Boehler, National Committeewoman

[[13]



Why North Dakota GOP voters don't vote in the presidential nomination process

Were you just born yesterday? "The people" don't choose ANYTHING regarding party primaries, and they never have. The people express their opinion, and the parties take it under advisement when THEY decide who is and isn't going to represent them. I'm very sorry that this is news to you, but it's not new and different in any way.

This is the first time that I have followed the delegates, I never had time before now,

So you think it is ok for the secret Super Pac's running our country and we have 0 say in that corruption?

.

I think it's okay for free and legal citizens to support whomever they want and exercise their freedom of political speech via putting their money where their mouths are as they see fit, so long as it meets legal standards. Your envy and hatred that other people have more money to support their causes with than you do is of no interest to me. Neither is the fact that you just clued in to how political parties work, and now feel outraged. I do not, in fact, think you should have any say in how other people spend their money or what causes and candidates they support.

Political parties are private entities. They always have been. You are not obligated to join them, or to vote for their candidates. You are as welcome to go out and start your own political party and put forth your own candidate for consideration as anyone else is. The fact that you do not have the money to gain any serious notice for your party or candidate does not obligate anyone else to ask your opinion of who THEY support.

You do not know what the fuck your talking about saying I am envious of the rich people...I am wealthy , and my husband was Mayor of my area for ten years. So stop with your stupid manipulation and lies of someone you don't even know..

It is not ok for these huge secret donations funding large amounts of money without transparency. There is so much corruption behind the scenes with huge amounts of backing by the Big Pharma, Wall street, the Koch Brothers, Soro's, Sheldon...These people are running our country right now.
I went through cancer treatment 2 times, and I have seen the big pharma and medical scams, insurance scams getting away with it, for the hush money. If you think that is ok , you are fucked up.

The people who are voted, and those voting them into office should have complete transparency and these dirty little secrets with money should be out in the open with each and every person we are paying to run our country.

.

Blah blah blah "Look at all the shit I can claim on the Internet!" Yeah, and I'm a fucking supermodel, since we're online.

There's plenty of transparency, Chuckles. You can get as much information as is actually your business. You want more than what is any of your business? Piss off.

Spare me the sob stories. I'm not your therapist, and oversharing makes me feel like I want a shower.

 

[Cecilie1200]

The parties choose their own nominee, not the people. It's always been that way.

Yes but the people get to vote in the primaries in most states, otherwise why are we wasting every ones money and time with these primary's?

Most states have primaries, some don't care to. So what? As I said, most political parties don't have primaries at all.

Again, you are confusing someone asking your opinion with you being entitled to give it and have it respected.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Every state has different rules. Imo that is absurd when the rules in one state affect another in national elections. For instance why do we let a handful of farmers in Iowa set the tone for the rest of the nation? (Nothing against farmers btw)
The primary process is in desperate need of streamlining. We are no longer a nation of millions but rather hundreds of millions.

States should control how their delegates are chosen. Lets not give the federal government more power.

Why would the federal government control anything about how political parties choose who to put forward in an election? The parties aren't affiliated with or part of the government, and the last thing this country needs is even more government control over things.

What I am suggesting would give the people more control not the establishment or the government. Up to this point it's been their rules & look where we've ended up.

It's their rules because it's their party. Political parties are private entities, not public, and beholden to voters only insofar as they need us to agree to vote for their nominees in official government-run elections. A big part of why we are where we are is because people don't bother to learn the reality instead of the perception, and then they get their panties all in a ruffle when the two turn out to be different.

Then why do taxpayers foot the bill for all this primary nonsense?

To the extent that they do, I would assume the local governments do so in exchange for the ability to impose a some outside regulation on how they're conducted. As with virtually anything in this country, there are laws and regulations that still must be observed.

If you really want to know the reasoning in your area, I suggest you call and ask.

 

[bendog]

I find this to be a easy way to sway the votes for delegates ~ who is voting in this process?

Who gets to choose the delegates?

The 25 delegates to the national convention will be selected by a group of 11 state party leaders in North Dakota, called the Permanent Committee on Organization(including Haugland). That committee is made up of the Republican National Committeeman and the Republican National Committeewoman for North Dakota, Sandy Boehler, state GOP Chairman Kelly Armstrong and two members from each region of the state who are chosen by the regional GOP chairs.

In order to be considered, potential delegates had to submit an application to the state Republican Party by Monday that's signed by the applicant's district chair.

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  • Senator Kelly Armstrong, Chairman
  • Jim Poolman, Vice Chairman
  • Carma Hanson, Vice Chairwoman
  • Kyle Handegard, Secretary
  • Shane Goettle, Treasurer
  • Curly Haugland, National Committeeman
  • Sandy Boehler, National Committeewoman

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Why North Dakota GOP voters don't vote in the presidential nomination process

Thank God this isn't crooked like the dems apportioning pledged delegates on a % of the popular vote in a primary, plus the superdelegates.