The people are not choosing who gets the delegates in North Dakota , 11 state party leaders are~

[Centinel]

If we've learned anything during this election cycle it's that the primary process for BOTH parties is LONG OVERDUE for an overhaul

The democratic and republican parties are private organizations. I don't care how they conduct their affairs, any more than I care how the Knights of Columbus conduct their affairs. None of my business.

The Knights of Columbus have no impact on my life.

Terrible analogy

Neither does the republican or democratic parties. They simply name someone as their choice for political office. Any organization can do the same.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

If we've learned anything during this election cycle it's that the primary process for BOTH parties is LONG OVERDUE for an overhaul

The democratic and republican parties are private organizations. I don't care how they conduct their affairs, any more than I care how the Knights of Columbus conduct their affairs. None of my business.

The Knights of Columbus have no impact on my life.

Terrible analogy

Neither does the republican or democratic parties. They simply name someone as their choice for political office. Any organization can do the same.

Off course they do, are you dense or just a leftie?
They nominated Obama & all of us are affected because of their actions.

 

[Centinel]

If we've learned anything during this election cycle it's that the primary process for BOTH parties is LONG OVERDUE for an overhaul

The democratic and republican parties are private organizations. I don't care how they conduct their affairs, any more than I care how the Knights of Columbus conduct their affairs. None of my business.

The Knights of Columbus have no impact on my life.

Terrible analogy

Neither does the republican or democratic parties. They simply name someone as their choice for political office. Any organization can do the same.

Off course they do, are you dense or just a leftie?
They nominated Obama & all of us are affected because of their actions.

Obama is president because he was elected by the people in a government election.

Political parties are private organizations that have no ability to install elected officials. Only the people can select their elected officials via the ballot box.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

If we've learned anything during this election cycle it's that the primary process for BOTH parties is LONG OVERDUE for an overhaul

The democratic and republican parties are private organizations. I don't care how they conduct their affairs, any more than I care how the Knights of Columbus conduct their affairs. None of my business.

The Knights of Columbus have no impact on my life.

Terrible analogy

Neither does the republican or democratic parties. They simply name someone as their choice for political office. Any organization can do the same.

Off course they do, are you dense or just a leftie?
They nominated Obama & all of us are affected because of their actions.

Obama is president because he was elected by the people in a government election.

Political parties are private organizations that have no ability to install elected officials. Only the people can select their elected officials via the ballot box.

No shit Sherlock

I am suggesting that the method of picking nominees be changed to give greater voice to the people. If you don't like that idea, fine. But pointing out the obvious contributes absolutely nothing to this debate.

 

[Centinel]

The democratic and republican parties are private organizations. I don't care how they conduct their affairs, any more than I care how the Knights of Columbus conduct their affairs. None of my business.

The Knights of Columbus have no impact on my life.

Terrible analogy

Neither does the republican or democratic parties. They simply name someone as their choice for political office. Any organization can do the same.

Off course they do, are you dense or just a leftie?
They nominated Obama & all of us are affected because of their actions.

Obama is president because he was elected by the people in a government election.

Political parties are private organizations that have no ability to install elected officials. Only the people can select their elected officials via the ballot box.

No shit Sherlock

I am suggesting that the method of picking nominees be changed to give greater voice to the people. If you don't like that idea, fine. But pointing out the obvious contributes absolutely nothing to this debate.

Then get involved in the private political party of your choice and work to get it to change the way it chooses candidates to recommend for office. Again, this is not a government issue.

 

[tinydancer]

You wouldn't have a problem with this if trump had won.

Study up on how a republic works

You really confuse me Avatar. Is it because Heidi is LDS and you are going to back them no matter what? Even though he is not?

What on earth are you talking about? Heidi is lds? I don't think that's accurate and if it was who cares? I'm voting for Ted not Heidi.

I'm supporting Ted because I'm a conservative. I believe in limited government. He has fought for limited government countless times and won.

He is literally everything we've claimed we've wanted through the bush and Obama years. And right when we have an opportunity to vote for what we've been claiming to support for years, right when the tea party is about to take back the white house against two of the weakest Democrats in recent history, right when we can finally achieve everything we've been working for, you guys want to shoot us in the head right before we cross the finish line by electing a man who not only stands against everything we've worked for but financed it all of his life.

You realize electing trump destroys the conservative moment for at least the next 100 years don't you? He will install progressive judges and that's assuming he wins since he is the only gop candidate who doesn't beat those pathetic socialists.

So yeah I'm just crazy for wanting to support the candidate who actually stands for conservative values and the constitution instead of the one who claims he is only different from the establishment on trade and who claims he will change his views on a dime. I want to support the candidate who will actually nominate originalists to the bench

See I haven't changes my values. Why have you guys abandoned yours? Or have you just been faking all these years?

He is Wall Street all the way with Heidi.

 

[tinydancer]

The parties always choose the nominees.

I hope both sides are trying to knock this shit off the block though LL. BTW I love Bernie.

 

[Eaglewings]

You wouldn't have a problem with this if trump had won.

Study up on how a republic works

You really confuse me Avatar. Is it because Heidi is LDS and you are going to back them no matter what? Even though he is not?

What on earth are you talking about? Heidi is lds? I don't think that's accurate and if it was who cares? I'm voting for Ted not Heidi.

I'm supporting Ted because I'm a conservative. I believe in limited government. He has fought for limited government countless times and won.

He is literally everything we've claimed we've wanted through the bush and Obama years. And right when we have an opportunity to vote for what we've been claiming to support for years, right when the tea party is about to take back the white house against two of the weakest Democrats in recent history, right when we can finally achieve everything we've been working for, you guys want to shoot us in the head right before we cross the finish line by electing a man who not only stands against everything we've worked for but financed it all of his life.

You realize electing trump destroys the conservative moment for at least the next 100 years don't you? He will install progressive judges and that's assuming he wins since he is the only gop candidate who doesn't beat those pathetic socialists.

So yeah I'm just crazy for wanting to support the candidate who actually stands for conservative values and the constitution instead of the one who claims he is only different from the establishment on trade and who claims he will change his views on a dime. I want to support the candidate who will actually nominate originalists to the bench

See I haven't changes my values. Why have you guys abandoned yours? Or have you just been faking all these years?

He is Wall Street all the way with Heidi.

The republicans did it to themselves, until this is acknowledged things will only get more dysfunctional.

It is like a alcoholic blaming everyone else for being a dysfunctional drunk.

Avatar the congress hates Ted, are you saying that the republican party wants Ted, or is it the Tea Party?

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[Eaglewings]

If we've learned anything during this election cycle it's that the primary process for BOTH parties is LONG OVERDUE for an overhaul

The democratic and republican parties are private organizations. I don't care how they conduct their affairs, any more than I care how the Knights of Columbus conduct their affairs. None of my business.

The Knights of Columbus have no impact on my life.

Terrible analogy

Neither does the republican or democratic parties. They simply name someone as their choice for political office. Any organization can do the same.

So having these candidates almost kill themselves by running their bodies into the ground is just a show?

What if Donald gets the delegates he needs, are they able to kick him out?


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[Cecilie1200]

Were you just born yesterday? "The people" don't choose ANYTHING regarding party primaries, and they never have. The people express their opinion, and the parties take it under advisement when THEY decide who is and isn't going to represent them. I'm very sorry that this is news to you, but it's not new and different in any way.

This is the first time that I have followed the delegates, I never had time before now,

So you think it is ok for the secret Super Pac's running our country and we have 0 say in that corruption?

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I think it's okay for free and legal citizens to support whomever they want and exercise their freedom of political speech via putting their money where their mouths are as they see fit, so long as it meets legal standards. Your envy and hatred that other people have more money to support their causes with than you do is of no interest to me. Neither is the fact that you just clued in to how political parties work, and now feel outraged. I do not, in fact, think you should have any say in how other people spend their money or what causes and candidates they support.

Political parties are private entities. They always have been. You are not obligated to join them, or to vote for their candidates. You are as welcome to go out and start your own political party and put forth your own candidate for consideration as anyone else is. The fact that you do not have the money to gain any serious notice for your party or candidate does not obligate anyone else to ask your opinion of who THEY support.

You do not know what the fuck your talking about saying I am envious of the rich people...I am wealthy , and my husband was Mayor of my area for ten years. So stop with your stupid manipulation and lies of someone you don't even know..

It is not ok for these huge secret donations funding large amounts of money without transparency. There is so much corruption behind the scenes with huge amounts of backing by the Big Pharma, Wall street, the Koch Brothers, Soro's, Sheldon...These people are running our country right now.
I went through cancer treatment 2 times, and I have seen the big pharma and medical scams, insurance scams getting away with it, for the hush money. If you think that is ok , you are fucked up.

The people who are voted, and those voting them into office should have complete transparency and these dirty little secrets with money should be out in the open with each and every person we are paying to run our country.

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Blah blah blah "Look at all the shit I can claim on the Internet!" Yeah, and I'm a fucking supermodel, since we're online.

There's plenty of transparency, Chuckles. You can get as much information as is actually your business. You want more than what is any of your business? Piss off.

Spare me the sob stories. I'm not your therapist, and oversharing makes me feel like I want a shower.

No sob stories here weasel...Some people here are funny when they insult, you are just mean to the core with the intent to hurt someone and manipulate them .
You probably are a major fat, bald guy lives by himself and are looking to get your anger out .
I tried to be nice to you, but you would rather be a dick so I will ignore you from now on.

Go get a nice piece of chocolate cake to smother into your fat mouth...enjoy...

Gosh, you're almost as classy and brilliant and utterly pointless as your hero.

 

[SwimExpert]

If we've learned anything during this election cycle it's that the primary process for BOTH parties is LONG OVERDUE for an overhaul

Namely, a self destruct initialization.

 

[SwimExpert]

Every state has different rules. Imo that is absurd when the rules in one state affect another in national elections.

That is your mistake. These aren't national elections. This is an internal process among the political parties.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

If we've learned anything during this election cycle it's that the primary process for BOTH parties is LONG OVERDUE for an overhaul

The democratic and republican parties are private organizations. I don't care how they conduct their affairs, any more than I care how the Knights of Columbus conduct their affairs. None of my business.

The Knights of Columbus have no impact on my life.

Terrible analogy

Neither does the republican or democratic parties. They simply name someone as their choice for political office. Any organization can do the same.

Off course they do, are you dense or just a leftie?
They nominated Obama & all of us are affected because of their actions.

As is their prerogative. The parties decide who they want to represent their party and their brand. Almost always it's the candidate who wins the primaries. The RNC has every right to block Trump if they don't want him representing their party.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

The democratic and republican parties are private organizations. I don't care how they conduct their affairs, any more than I care how the Knights of Columbus conduct their affairs. None of my business.

The Knights of Columbus have no impact on my life.

Terrible analogy

Neither does the republican or democratic parties. They simply name someone as their choice for political office. Any organization can do the same.

Off course they do, are you dense or just a leftie?
They nominated Obama & all of us are affected because of their actions.

Obama is president because he was elected by the people in a government election.

Political parties are private organizations that have no ability to install elected officials. Only the people can select their elected officials via the ballot box.

No shit Sherlock

I am suggesting that the method of picking nominees be changed to give greater voice to the people. If you don't like that idea, fine. But pointing out the obvious contributes absolutely nothing to this debate.

The people don't put up candidates, the parties do. It's been that way for your entire lifetime.

 

[Cecilie1200]

"The people are not choosing who gets the delegates in North Dakota , 11 state party leaders are~"

And?

The GOP is a private entity at liberty to decide its delegates as it sees fit, separate and apart from ‘the people.’

The primary process is a bizarre blend of public and private sectors, where state elections laws administer the voting process, but no political party is required to abide by the election results.

The states should remove themselves from the process entirely. It's a private matter concerning a private organization.

Since it does ultimately involve an election, there are apparently laws and regulations that must be abided by and which therefore require monitoring.

 

[Cecilie1200]

You wouldn't have a problem with this if trump had won.

Study up on how a republic works

The last I heard in an election it is the PEOPLE who vote. The Representative only votes for the PEOPLE AFTER they have been elected.

Yeah, but primaries aren't really elections. They're kinda more like polls. I believe most of the smaller parties don't even hold primaries at all. Their governing committee simply appoints a candidate, and that's that.

 

[Cecilie1200]

The democratic and republican parties are private organizations. I don't care how they conduct their affairs, any more than I care how the Knights of Columbus conduct their affairs. None of my business.

The Knights of Columbus have no impact on my life.

Terrible analogy

Neither does the republican or democratic parties. They simply name someone as their choice for political office. Any organization can do the same.

Off course they do, are you dense or just a leftie?
They nominated Obama & all of us are affected because of their actions.

Obama is president because he was elected by the people in a government election.

Political parties are private organizations that have no ability to install elected officials. Only the people can select their elected officials via the ballot box.

No shit Sherlock

I am suggesting that the method of picking nominees be changed to give greater voice to the people. If you don't like that idea, fine. But pointing out the obvious contributes absolutely nothing to this debate.

Well, understand that you have to suggest that to the parties themselves, and if they see no benefit to the party, they're unlikely to listen.

 

[Cecilie1200]

If we've learned anything during this election cycle it's that the primary process for BOTH parties is LONG OVERDUE for an overhaul

The democratic and republican parties are private organizations. I don't care how they conduct their affairs, any more than I care how the Knights of Columbus conduct their affairs. None of my business.

The Knights of Columbus have no impact on my life.

Terrible analogy

Neither does the republican or democratic parties. They simply name someone as their choice for political office. Any organization can do the same.

So having these candidates almost kill themselves by running their bodies into the ground is just a show?

What if Donald gets the delegates he needs, are they able to kick him out?


.


.

I don't think so. I believe they actually have a contractual obligation to the candidates to give the nomination to anyone who meets the delegate requirement.

The government has no control over their rules, but it can and will enforce any contractual obligations, just as it would with any other private entity.

 

[Centinel]

"The people are not choosing who gets the delegates in North Dakota , 11 state party leaders are~"

And?

The GOP is a private entity at liberty to decide its delegates as it sees fit, separate and apart from ‘the people.’

The primary process is a bizarre blend of public and private sectors, where state elections laws administer the voting process, but no political party is required to abide by the election results.

The states should remove themselves from the process entirely. It's a private matter concerning a private organization.

Since it does ultimately involve an election, there are apparently laws and regulations that must be abided by and which therefore require monitoring.

Of course the states should be involved in elections for political office. However they should not involve themselves or devote government resources to the operation of private organizations.

 

[westwall]

You wouldn't have a problem with this if trump had won.

Study up on how a republic works

The last I heard in an election it is the PEOPLE who vote. The Representative only votes for the PEOPLE AFTER they have been elected.

Yeah, but primaries aren't really elections. They're kinda more like polls. I believe most of the smaller parties don't even hold primaries at all. Their governing committee simply appoints a candidate, and that's that.

So, what you're saying is the PARTY puts forth a candidate, that you have no say in who the candidates are, and you are stuck with the choice they gave. Is that what you're stating?