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Does anyone remember the protests of the 1960's?
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The youth of America was up in arms over wars abroad.
However, what of today? Where are the protests? Could it be that the establishment has learned to perfect the art of propaganda? Young people around the country lined up to vote the Nobel Peace Prize winning President Obama that has helped bring peace to Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya. And guess what, they would vote for him again if the could.
The Left denied LBJ a 2nd term because of Vietnam, which didn't attack us.
Obama vowed to pull combat troops out of Iraq, which he did.
He also vowed to attack the primary base-camp (Afghanistan) of the group who attacked us (Al Qaeda), which he is doing - though it looks like he is going to start withdrawing troops there as well.
Where I think Obama deserves criticism from the base is for not unwinding the Bush Surveillance Programs, certified within the Patriot Act.
Does anyone remember the protests of the 1960's?
View attachment 29219
The youth of America was up in arms over wars abroad.
However, what of today? Where are the protests? Could it be that the establishment has learned to perfect the art of propaganda? Young people around the country lined up to vote the Nobel Peace Prize winning President Obama that has helped bring peace to Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya. And guess what, they would vote for him again if the could.
I remember that time very well. I remember coming home from Viet Nam, landing at San Francisco ( to change planes) and being cursed at by hippies. Yeah I remember those times quite well.
I also remember that piece of trash Cindy Sheehan (Wonder what happened to that turd). Apparently she's fine with Barry's war .
I also remember this:
IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
I wonder how many of these "hippies" named "Moonglow" or "Sunshine" have ever bothered to read this ...
The Left denied LBJ a 2nd term because of Vietnam, which didn't attack us.
Obama vowed to pull combat troops out of Iraq, which he did.
He also vowed to attack the primary base-camp (Afghanistan) of the group who attacked us (Al Qaeda), which he is doing - though it looks like he is going to start withdrawing troops there as well.
Where I think Obama deserves criticism from the base is for not unwinding the Bush Surveillance Programs, certified within the Patriot Act. Bush made it much easier for the government to collect and store data on American citizens. Democratic voters thought Obama was going to dismantle all that stuff. They were mislead, and they should speak up.
Does anyone remember the protests of the 1960's?
View attachment 29219
The youth of America was up in arms over wars abroad.
However, what of today? Where are the protests? Could it be that the establishment has learned to perfect the art of propaganda? Young people around the country lined up to vote the Nobel Peace Prize winning President Obama that has helped bring peace to Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya. And guess what, they would vote for him again if the could.
I remember that time very well. I remember coming home from Viet Nam, landing at San Francisco ( to change planes) and being cursed at by hippies. Yeah I remember those times quite well.
I also remember that piece of trash Cindy Sheehan (Wonder what happened to that turd). Apparently she's fine with Barry's war .
I also remember this:
IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
I wonder how many of these "hippies" named "Moonglow" or "Sunshine" have ever bothered to read this ...
Whoa! Stirring! You are such a great American.
Here's my golden rule: it's not propaganda if it's true. If it's a lie, it's propaganda.
I don't think so...it's more the perfection of lowered standards and increased apathy.
Does anyone remember the protests of the 1960's?
View attachment 29219
The youth of America was up in arms over wars abroad.
However, what of today? Where are the protests? Could it be that the establishment has learned to perfect the art of propaganda? Young people around the country lined up to vote the Nobel Peace Prize winning President Obama that has helped bring peace to Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya. And guess what, they would vote for him again if the could.
Here's my golden rule: it's not propaganda if it's true. If it's a lie, it's propaganda.
Propaganda is most effective when you mix truth with it.
For example, when trying to raise support for attacking a dictator in the Middle East, all one has to do is point to all the evil they inflict on people. It's not hard to do really. For example, when Syria uses WMD's to defend themselves, assuming they actually did, then point to all the people that were killed, especially children.
However, blindly ignore the fact that the US used WMD's to defend itself against Japan. You see, that is OK, but not so for Syria. Also, blindly ignore all the atrocities that the rebels in Syria have inflicted, especially against Christians. Also ignore the fact that Al Qaeda is fighting with the rebels.
If those on the left were really all that concerned about dictators taking out people with WMD's, then they would have been behind "W" taking out Saddam because Saddam took out an entire Kurdish city using WMD's, not to mention using them against Iran as well.
Does anyone remember the protests of the 1960's?
View attachment 29219
The youth of America was up in arms over wars abroad.
However, what of today? Where are the protests? Could it be that the establishment has learned to perfect the art of propaganda? Young people around the country lined up to vote the Nobel Peace Prize winning President Obama that has helped bring peace to Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya. And guess what, they would vote for him again if the could.
it has little to do with propaganda. it has to do with there being no draft.
as glad as i am that there's no draft, when people are vested in what wars are waged, they respond when those wars are unnecessary or unjust. when only 1.5% of our population fights wars and most of us don't have anyone in their lives who is overseas and fighting, it is easy to ignore circumstances.
so, no. conspiracy theories aside, there is a genuine reason
i'll also remind you though that when groups DID protest iraq, the right slandered them and ranted and raved about them. so i'd say THAT had an effect as well.
Give it up, there was never a golden age of news media. It's always been a pile of bullshit and purposely ignored issues.
Agreed. However, are things worse today?
Put another way, if the establishment had power over the media in the 1960's, why would they allow coverage of the Vietnam war that ran contrary to policy?
Did they want uprisings?
No, things are better. We have access to the truth, it's your own fault if you only listen to news that has been spun to suit your political leanings.
There is no draft today.
There were nearly 600,000 men (many of them draftees) in Viet Nam.
There's your difference.
There is no draft today.
There were nearly 600,000 men (many of them draftees) in Viet Nam.
There's your difference.
yet when Bush was in office -
bush anti war protests - Bing Videos
A few random comments:
The MSM was supportive of the Vietnam war until very late in the game. Don't forget, the Movers and Shakers at the time were the WWII generation, for whom any disagreement with the government was tantamount to being a traitor.
The Vietnam Draft (both before and after the Lottery) was very unfairly administered. Between student deferments and other games that were being played, very few boys from middle class families were drafted unless they chose to allow it. There were simply too many ways to get out of it.
The all-volunteer Army has completely changed the attitude of the general public about foreign engagements. Those things are for "someone else" to worry about, not me. And the number of casualties coming out of Iraq and Afg are a mere trickle, compared to Vietnam (50,000+).
Even "just" wars require a certain amount of propaganda to get the general public on board.
The American public has the collective maturity of a fucking toddler. We want to have wars (and a lot of other stuff) without paying for them. Literally. It's disgusting.
And rightwinger makes the 5529 kilometer leap around Afghanistan, the world's 41st largest country and where more US Soldiers died under Obama in his first term than under Bush in two terms.Vietnam= Benghazi
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