The Planned Parent Hood, Lie.

[healthmyths]

Our nation has lost all morality under progressive leadership of both parties.

How PP can continue to be funded by our tax dollars, after these heinous revelations, is beyond me.

What can one conclude about a political party that will fight to the death to protect the murdering of babies and the selling of their body parts?

We have much in common with Nazi Germany.

Read this:
The Planned Parenthood video in context

I posted the whole of it becasue of the gross lack of understanding by the right...

An anti-abortion activist group released a video that they say proves Planned Parenthood "sells the body parts of aborted fetuses." Is it misleading?

Posing as a biological tissue procurement company, actors for the Center for Medical Progress secretly filmed a luncheon with Planned Parenthood’s senior director of Medical Services Dr. Deborah Nucatola in 2014. On July 14, 2015, the group released a nine-minute video that they say shows Nucatola talking about performing partial-birth abortions to keep body parts intact in order to "sell" them, an action which the video alleges is a felony.

Nearly every Republican presidential candidate has responded, condemning Planned Parenthood. And Congress, as well as the states of Texas and Louisiana, have called for investigations into the women’s reproductive health care organization.

Many, including Planned Parenthood, have said the video was heavily edited and is misleading. They say Nucatola was discussing a standard, legal procedure for providing fetal tissue for scientific research, for which clinics are often reimbursed for costs associated with procuring the tissue (as opposed to selling tissue for a profit).

Who’s right? We read the 60-page transcript of the nearly three-hour luncheon and found that Nucatola reveals very little concrete information on Planned Parenthood’s practices. Put simply, there’s no clear gotcha.

We’ll leave it up to readers to come to their own conclusions about Planned Parenthood’s practices and Nucatola’s statements, but we want to highlight a few key moments in the conversation to put the edited video in context.

It’s clear in the full-length video that Nucatola believes she is speaking with representatives from a company that provides scientific researchers with tissue from aborted fetuses (a legal process that raises difficult ethical questions). She describes the process of getting consent from patients, as well as how Planned Parenthood clinics typically interacts with the companies that take the tissue from the clinics to the researchers.

The edited video shows Nucatola discussing a per-specimen price range for tissue parts. But the full video shows that the cost under discussion is a reimbursement for the cost of preparing the specimens for transfer, not the value of the specimens themselves. She adds that Planned Parenthood needs to be able to explain exactly what the funds are used for.

Asked by the actors about a price range, Nucatola said:

"You know, I would throw a number out, I would say it’s probably anywhere from $30 to $100 (per specimen), depending on the facility and what’s involved. It just has to do with space issues, are you sending someone there who’s going to be doing everything, is there shipping involved, is somebody going to have to take it out? You know, I think everybody just wants, it’s really just about if anyone were ever to ask them, ‘What do you do for this $60? How can you justify that? Or are you basically just doing something completely egregious, that you should be doing for free.’ So it just needs to be justifiable.

"The way they budget (for the cost of producing a specimen) is by the amount of time they spend on one patient. … It depends, if (the procurement service is) expecting somebody to process, and package, identify tissue for you, it’s going to be at the higher end of the range. In all cases, it’s really going to be about staff time, because that’s the only cost to the affiliate. And then, if you want space."

Nucatola also said Planned Parenthood affiliate clinics appreciate that they can reduce some of their overhead costs of disposing of aborted fetal tissue by using a tissue procurement service.

Nucatola said:

"I think for affiliates, at the end of the day, they’re a nonprofit, they just don’t want to — they want to break even. And if they can do a little better than break even, and do so in a way that seems reasonable, they’re happy to do that. Really their bottom line is, they want to break even. Every penny they save is just pennies they give to another patient. To provide a service the patient wouldn’t get.

"No one’s going to see this as a money-making thing. The other reason affiliates think this is a good thing is, it’s less tissue that they need to worry about, it’s taken care of. They have to do something with that tissue, it’s hard to find somebody that wants to do something with that tissue, so the fact that there’s somebody that’s looking for that tissue is -- that is such a huge service to them."

Nucatola says throughout the luncheon that Planned Parenthood is not interested in making a profit off the specimens -- an interpretation the edited video pushes.

"(Clinics) want to do this, but they want to do it in a way that’s not going to impact them, and it’s much much less about money. You could call them up and say, ‘I’ll pay you double the money,’ and they’re almost more inclined to say no, because it’s going to look bad. … To them, this is not a service they should be making money from, it’s something they should be able to offer this to their patients, in a way that doesn’t impact them.

"Again, affiliates don’t — affiliates are not looking to make money by doing this. They’re looking to serve their patients and just make it not impact their bottom line.

"At the end of the day we just want to keep the doors open. And we don’t want to let jeopardize keeping the doors open. We just want (the cost per specimen) to be reasonable for the impact it has on the clinic. This is not a new revenue stream the affiliates are looking at. This is a way to offer the patient the service that they want. Do good for the medical community.

"Like I said, is to give patients the option without impacting our bottom line. The messaging is this should not be seen as a new revenue stream because that’s not what it is."

The actors in the video act as if they are on the same page:

Actor: "I understand what you’re saying. This cannot be seen as, ‘We’re doing this for profit.’ "

Nucatola: "No. Nothing, no affiliate should be doing anything that’s not like, reasonable and customary. This is not -- nobody should be ‘selling’ tissue. That’s just not the goal here."

Actor: "Right. And, I never see that as, I don’t look at it that way, we’re not selling tissue, we’re selling the possibility of what the research can offer."

Nucatola: "I think we all would agree with you. That’s just not the perception, sadly, for everybody."

Actor: "I mean, researchers are paying for procurement, they’re not paying for — You’re not buying a brain, you’re buying a procurement service."

Nucatola: "Exactly. Exactly."

The conversation indicates that at least some Planned Parenthood clinics do sell aborted fetal tissue. But Nucatola plainly argues that the money they’re charging is trying to offset the costs associated with tissue procurement -- a legal service.

Hey... "tricks," "tactics" seem to work for Obama and you don't seem offended by his "tricks" "tactics"!

"Dreams from My Father"...published July 18,1995!
"It was usually an effective tactic, another one of those tricks I had learned.
People were satisfied so long as you were courteous and smiled and made no sudden moves.
They were more than satisfied. They were revealed.
Such a pleasant surprise to find a well-mannered young black man who didn't seem angry all the time."

It worked for Obama when he hired the Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber said that lack of transparency was a major part of getting Obamacare passed because “the stupidity of the American voter” would have killed the law if more people knew what was in it.
That was the most gigantic LIE, TRICK,TACTIC and that was OK with you???

 

[Stephanie]

Our nation has lost all morality under progressive leadership of both parties.

How PP can continue to be funded by our tax dollars, after these heinous revelations, is beyond me.

What can one conclude about a political party that will fight to the death to protect the murdering of babies and the selling of their body parts?

We have much in common with Nazi Germany.

Read this:
The Planned Parenthood video in context

I posted the whole of it becasue of the gross lack of understanding by the right...

An anti-abortion activist group released a video that they say proves Planned Parenthood "sells the body parts of aborted fetuses." Is it misleading?

Posing as a biological tissue procurement company, actors for the Center for Medical Progress secretly filmed a luncheon with Planned Parenthood’s senior director of Medical Services Dr. Deborah Nucatola in 2014. On July 14, 2015, the group released a nine-minute video that they say shows Nucatola talking about performing partial-birth abortions to keep body parts intact in order to "sell" them, an action which the video alleges is a felony.

Nearly every Republican presidential candidate has responded, condemning Planned Parenthood. And Congress, as well as the states of Texas and Louisiana, have called for investigations into the women’s reproductive health care organization.

Many, including Planned Parenthood, have said the video was heavily edited and is misleading. They say Nucatola was discussing a standard, legal procedure for providing fetal tissue for scientific research, for which clinics are often reimbursed for costs associated with procuring the tissue (as opposed to selling tissue for a profit).

Who’s right? We read the 60-page transcript of the nearly three-hour luncheon and found that Nucatola reveals very little concrete information on Planned Parenthood’s practices. Put simply, there’s no clear gotcha.

We’ll leave it up to readers to come to their own conclusions about Planned Parenthood’s practices and Nucatola’s statements, but we want to highlight a few key moments in the conversation to put the edited video in context.

It’s clear in the full-length video that Nucatola believes she is speaking with representatives from a company that provides scientific researchers with tissue from aborted fetuses (a legal process that raises difficult ethical questions). She describes the process of getting consent from patients, as well as how Planned Parenthood clinics typically interacts with the companies that take the tissue from the clinics to the researchers.

The edited video shows Nucatola discussing a per-specimen price range for tissue parts. But the full video shows that the cost under discussion is a reimbursement for the cost of preparing the specimens for transfer, not the value of the specimens themselves. She adds that Planned Parenthood needs to be able to explain exactly what the funds are used for.

Asked by the actors about a price range, Nucatola said:

"You know, I would throw a number out, I would say it’s probably anywhere from $30 to $100 (per specimen), depending on the facility and what’s involved. It just has to do with space issues, are you sending someone there who’s going to be doing everything, is there shipping involved, is somebody going to have to take it out? You know, I think everybody just wants, it’s really just about if anyone were ever to ask them, ‘What do you do for this $60? How can you justify that? Or are you basically just doing something completely egregious, that you should be doing for free.’ So it just needs to be justifiable.

"The way they budget (for the cost of producing a specimen) is by the amount of time they spend on one patient. … It depends, if (the procurement service is) expecting somebody to process, and package, identify tissue for you, it’s going to be at the higher end of the range. In all cases, it’s really going to be about staff time, because that’s the only cost to the affiliate. And then, if you want space."

Nucatola also said Planned Parenthood affiliate clinics appreciate that they can reduce some of their overhead costs of disposing of aborted fetal tissue by using a tissue procurement service.

Nucatola said:

"I think for affiliates, at the end of the day, they’re a nonprofit, they just don’t want to — they want to break even. And if they can do a little better than break even, and do so in a way that seems reasonable, they’re happy to do that. Really their bottom line is, they want to break even. Every penny they save is just pennies they give to another patient. To provide a service the patient wouldn’t get.

"No one’s going to see this as a money-making thing. The other reason affiliates think this is a good thing is, it’s less tissue that they need to worry about, it’s taken care of. They have to do something with that tissue, it’s hard to find somebody that wants to do something with that tissue, so the fact that there’s somebody that’s looking for that tissue is -- that is such a huge service to them."

Nucatola says throughout the luncheon that Planned Parenthood is not interested in making a profit off the specimens -- an interpretation the edited video pushes.

"(Clinics) want to do this, but they want to do it in a way that’s not going to impact them, and it’s much much less about money. You could call them up and say, ‘I’ll pay you double the money,’ and they’re almost more inclined to say no, because it’s going to look bad. … To them, this is not a service they should be making money from, it’s something they should be able to offer this to their patients, in a way that doesn’t impact them.

"Again, affiliates don’t — affiliates are not looking to make money by doing this. They’re looking to serve their patients and just make it not impact their bottom line.

"At the end of the day we just want to keep the doors open. And we don’t want to let jeopardize keeping the doors open. We just want (the cost per specimen) to be reasonable for the impact it has on the clinic. This is not a new revenue stream the affiliates are looking at. This is a way to offer the patient the service that they want. Do good for the medical community.

"Like I said, is to give patients the option without impacting our bottom line. The messaging is this should not be seen as a new revenue stream because that’s not what it is."

The actors in the video act as if they are on the same page:

Actor: "I understand what you’re saying. This cannot be seen as, ‘We’re doing this for profit.’ "

Nucatola: "No. Nothing, no affiliate should be doing anything that’s not like, reasonable and customary. This is not -- nobody should be ‘selling’ tissue. That’s just not the goal here."

Actor: "Right. And, I never see that as, I don’t look at it that way, we’re not selling tissue, we’re selling the possibility of what the research can offer."

Nucatola: "I think we all would agree with you. That’s just not the perception, sadly, for everybody."

Actor: "I mean, researchers are paying for procurement, they’re not paying for — You’re not buying a brain, you’re buying a procurement service."

Nucatola: "Exactly. Exactly."

The conversation indicates that at least some Planned Parenthood clinics do sell aborted fetal tissue. But Nucatola plainly argues that the money they’re charging is trying to offset the costs associated with tissue procurement -- a legal service.

Hey... "tricks," "tactics" seem to work for Obama and you don't seem offended by his "tricks" "tactics"!

"Dreams from My Father"...published July 18,1995!
"It was usually an effective tactic, another one of those tricks I had learned.
People were satisfied so long as you were courteous and smiled and made no sudden moves.
They were more than satisfied. They were revealed.
Such a pleasant surprise to find a well-mannered young black man who didn't seem angry all the time."

It worked for Obama when he hired the Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber said that lack of transparency was a major part of getting Obamacare passed because “the stupidity of the American voter” would have killed the law if more people knew what was in it.
That was the most gigantic LIE, TRICK,TACTIC and that was OK with you???

Boom!!!! that's going to leave a mark. but you see it's OK FOR THEM. I'm shocked at these DEFENDING this. my gawd what has happened to our Society?

 

[Flash]

Abortion remains the right wing conservative, republican, and religious, moral crutch. Living children matter nada as living children require doing something other than mental feel good morality. What hypocrites the so called pro life people are.

Should Abortion Be Illegal Once a Heartbeat Is Detectable? | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum
A new forum, maybe...? | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum
The Way it Was (Pre-Roe v Wade) | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum
Obama in 2003: ‘i am pro-choice’ in all situations, including late-term abortions | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum
Pro-choice at record low...41 percent. | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

"Abolition of a woman's right to abortion, when and if she wants it, amounts to compulsory maternity: a form of rape by the State." Edward Abbey
.

It is despicable that Liberals are obsessed with the slaughter of children on demand and the selling of the children's body part. Talk about sicko but that takes the cake.

Liberals kill almost a million American children each year on demand for convenience sake. Then the children that survive the Liberals try to push into a welfare slave plantation that assures poverty in order to provide a power base for the filthy Democrat Party.

 

[Flash]

Liberals were more concerned about Cecil the lion than they are about the 300,000 children slaughtered annually by Planned Parenthood and the selling of the children's body parts.

Then they wonder why we think they are assholes.

 

[Stephanie]

ALL THIS Angst OVER CUTTING

A HALF MILLION of us taxpayers money to fund the butchering of alive ABORTED BABIES.

HOW SICK

 

[Camp]

In their very own "hearing", this happened:



Chaffetz lied.

She admitted they don't have mammogram machines in any Planned Parenthood facility.

So where's the lie?

Ms Richard's is the one lying.

The lie was the graph he tried to pass off as having been an official graph generated by Planned Parenthood. Unfortunately the dump ass forgot to remove the real source of the document that was printed on the bottom of the graph. The source happens to be an anti abortion group and the graph a total lie in itself, but Chaffetz's big lie that he got caught in was when he claimed the graph was generated in a specific report created by Planned Parenthood. He had to make shit up to attempt to cover up his original misrepresentation. All live and in front of God and Country while being caught on video.

 

[MisterBeale]

This is to all you ABORTION LOVERS. you want to fund PP send in your weekly paychecks. get the hell off the rest of us in this countries backs. AND GO GET a gawddam conscious and search for some courage while you're at it

SNIP:

The Cold, Hard Truth About Planned Parenthood and the Fight to Defund It
Print
By: Sen. Ted Cruz and Dr. Alveda King | September 29th, 2015

• Sen. Ted Cruz (TX) - R
  
  
  
  
  
  The next few sentences may be hard to read, but they must be seen and heard, with responsible and compassionate action following. Americans must know what Planned Parenthood does to unborn children.
  
  Crushing a baby’s body, while strategizing how to keep its organs intact... Selling body parts of dead babies...This is Planned Parenthood.
  
  Cutting through an aborted baby’s face to access its brain…while its heart is still beating... Crushing a baby’s body, while strategizing how to keep its organs intact... Selling body parts of dead babies...This is Planned Parenthood. This is what the Obama Administration is willing to shut down the government in order to continue funding.

ALL OF IT HERE

- See more at: Conservative Review - The Cold, Hard Truth About Planned Parenthood and the Fight to Defund It

You had no problem spending others people($3.7 Trillion) money killing innocent Iraqis...

And again, no taxpayers money is spent on abortions.

Are donations to PP tax deductible?

 

[HappyJoy]

 

[healthmyths]

In their very own "hearing", this happened:



Chaffetz lied.

She admitted they don't have mammogram machines in any Planned Parenthood facility.

So where's the lie?

Ms Richard's is the one lying.

The lie was the graph he tried to pass off as having been an official graph generated by Planned Parenthood. Unfortunately the dump ass forgot to remove the real source of the document that was printed on the bottom of the graph. The source happens to be an anti abortion group and the graph a total lie in itself, but Chaffetz's big lie that he got caught in was when he claimed the graph was generated in a specific report created by Planned Parenthood. He had to make shit up to attempt to cover up his original misrepresentation. All live and in front of God and Country while being caught on video.

FACTS....
According to the actual Planned Parenthood 2013 - 2014 annual report,
Now, I have no idea what the starting point is for Chaffetz's chart, but assuming he meant year over year, he's technically correct:

• 1,121,580 > 935,573 = a 16.6% reduction in cancer screenings/preventative services year over year.
• 327,166 > 327,653 = a 0.15% incrrease in abortions year over year.

UPDATED x3: I've corrected the chart Rep. Chaffetz presented at today's Planned Parenthood hearing.

But of course Chaffetz's BIG LIE FAR FAR Overshadows this BIG LIE! Right???


Cecile Richards Once Said Planned Parenthood Does Mammograms. Today She Admitted She Lied
Cecile Richards Once Said Planned Parenthood Does Mammograms. Today She Admitted She Lied

 

[Sallow]

In their very own "hearing", this happened:



Chaffetz lied.

He lied about what? You think you can just throw out the word "lie" and hope it sticks?

He lied about the source of his data.

Did you even bother to watch the video?

Yeah I watched it three times. But I find it amusing coming from people who say he was "beating up on a woman." That just screams objectivity on your part.

Not.

I guess you missed the part where Chaffetz said "I sourced your numbers" and on the very slide he was showing it sourced "Americans United For Life".


Congressman uses misleading graph to smear Planned Parenthood

 

[Stephanie]

Grow some balls for crying out loud. Do something courageous for once in your life. stop taxpayer money going to PP. They can go beg on a street corner for funding to butcher an alive aborted baby

SNIP:
Watch The Video Planned Parenthood And Its Media Allies Deny Exists
Carly Fiorina challenges Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and others to watch the Planned Parenthood videos depicting organ harvesting.
September 17, 2015 By Mollie Hemingway


At last night’s CNN debate, Carly Fiorina did what the country’s major media have by and large failed to do: She simply mentioned the horrifying videos showcasing Planned Parenthood’s participation in the fetal organ harvesting trade:

“As regards Planned Parenthood, anyone who has watched this videotape, I dare Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama to watch these tapes. Watch a fully formed fetus on the table, its heart beating, its legs kicking while someone says we have to keep it alive to harvest its brain.”

After her powerful statement, Planned Parenthood and its public relations firm SKDKnickerbocker lobbied journalists to claim that Carly had made up her claims. Many complied. Here, for example, is the Washington Post‘s response:

Fiorina might have trouble finding this video to show to Clinton. No video has surfaced showing the scene Fiorina describes taking place inside a Planned Parenthood facility.

On the other hand, CNN said that Fiorina’s claim was true but said it was misleading, since part if it is eyewitness testimony and part of it is images of aborted children. Others went full truther, such as this media outlet, which called it “totally made up.” Sarah Kliff, who gained fame for defending her failure to cover the story of Kermit Gosnell — a serial murderer and abortion doctor who snipped babies spinal cords after they were delivered — on the grounds it was just a “local crime” story), published a piece at Vox headlined “Carly Fiorina is wrong about the Planned Parenthood Tapes. I know because I watched them.”

There have been 10 videos exposing Planned Parenthood since July. The media have struggled to cover most of the them, even though they are full of scandalous information about human organ harvesting. In addition to the 10 videos, lengthier footage of the hours-long meetings from which they were gleaned is also available. Everyone who cares about humanity should watch these videos, which are available here.

A few of the videos are graphic, such as this one which shows Planned Parenthood officials picking through a young boy who was recently aborted. This one also has graphic footage. The videos are very difficult to watch, such as this scene which shows a technician lifting the tiny hand and arm of a recently killed human.

all of it here:
Watch The Video Planned Parenthood And Its Media Allies Deny Exists

 

[Stephanie]

In their very own "hearing", this happened:



Chaffetz lied.

He lied about what? You think you can just throw out the word "lie" and hope it sticks?

He lied about the source of his data.

Did you even bother to watch the video?

Yeah I watched it three times. But I find it amusing coming from people who say he was "beating up on a woman." That just screams objectivity on your part.

Not.

I guess you missed the part where Chaffetz said "I sourced your numbers" and on the very slide he was showing it sourced "Americans United For Life".


Congressman uses misleading graph to smear Planned Parenthood

no one cares. stop arguing for the sake of arguing.

PMsmnbc are you freaking serious

 

[HappyJoy]

In their very own "hearing", this happened:



Chaffetz lied.

He lied about what? You think you can just throw out the word "lie" and hope it sticks?

He lied about the source of his data.

Did you even bother to watch the video?

Yeah I watched it three times. But I find it amusing coming from people who say he was "beating up on a woman." That just screams objectivity on your part.

Not.

I guess you missed the part where Chaffetz said "I sourced your numbers" and on the very slide he was showing it sourced "Americans United For Life".


Congressman uses misleading graph to smear Planned Parenthood

no one cares. stop arguing for the sake of arguing.

It's actually the premise of the thread. if you don't care, why are you posting in it?

 

[Stephanie]

Watch this if you dare.
The “blob of tissue” pops out at about 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X8_WEFq15Q
May GOD have mercy...

 

[Stephanie]

CALL your CongressCritters




Follow
Prudence Paine @PruPaine


All those in favor of defunding #PlannedParenthood raise your hand. Don't #StandwithPP.

2:05 PM - 4 Aug 2015

• from:
• Watch The Video Planned Parenthood And Its Media Allies Deny Exists

 

[Camp]

In their very own "hearing", this happened:



Chaffetz lied.

She admitted they don't have mammogram machines in any Planned Parenthood facility.

So where's the lie?

Ms Richard's is the one lying.

The lie was the graph he tried to pass off as having been an official graph generated by Planned Parenthood. Unfortunately the dump ass forgot to remove the real source of the document that was printed on the bottom of the graph. The source happens to be an anti abortion group and the graph a total lie in itself, but Chaffetz's big lie that he got caught in was when he claimed the graph was generated in a specific report created by Planned Parenthood. He had to make shit up to attempt to cover up his original misrepresentation. All live and in front of God and Country while being caught on video.

FACTS....
According to the actual Planned Parenthood 2013 - 2014 annual report,
Now, I have no idea what the starting point is for Chaffetz's chart, but assuming he meant year over year, he's technically correct:

• 1,121,580 > 935,573 = a 16.6% reduction in cancer screenings/preventative services year over year.
• 327,166 > 327,653 = a 0.15% incrrease in abortions year over year.

UPDATED x3: I've corrected the chart Rep. Chaffetz presented at today's Planned Parenthood hearing.

But of course Chaffetz's BIG LIE FAR FAR Overshadows this BIG LIE! Right???


Cecile Richards Once Said Planned Parenthood Does Mammograms. Today She Admitted She Lied
Cecile Richards Once Said Planned Parenthood Does Mammograms. Today She Admitted She Lied

Your distortion has no legs or wheels. The claim was made over six weeks ago and fell apart. Woman go to Panned Parenthood for an examination to decide if a mammogram is needed. If it is, they are referred to a Diagnostic and Testing facility where various imaging equipment, including MRI, X Ray, ultra sound, etc. equipment is available. Planned Parenthood also overviews and determines whether a patients insurance will cover the cost. When it does not PP arranges through charitable organizations for payment and failing to find such funds available, pays for it themselves. Planned Parenthood is involved in the process from beginning preliminary exam to final payment for the procedure.

 

[Sallow]

Abortion remains the right wing conservative, republican, and religious, moral crutch. Living children matter nada as living children require doing something other than mental feel good morality. What hypocrites the so called pro life people are.

Should Abortion Be Illegal Once a Heartbeat Is Detectable? | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum
A new forum, maybe...? | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum
The Way it Was (Pre-Roe v Wade) | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum
Obama in 2003: ‘i am pro-choice’ in all situations, including late-term abortions | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum
Pro-choice at record low...41 percent. | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

"Abolition of a woman's right to abortion, when and if she wants it, amounts to compulsory maternity: a form of rape by the State." Edward Abbey
.

It is despicable that Liberals are obsessed with the slaughter of children on demand and the selling of the children's body part. Talk about sicko but that takes the cake.

Liberals kill almost a million American children each year on demand for convenience sake. Then the children that survive the Liberals try to push into a welfare slave plantation that assures poverty in order to provide a power base for the filthy Democrat Party.

No one is "slaughtering" children or "selling" body parts.

It's also interesting to note that Conservatives support war, which actually kills actual children, balk at funding pre-natal care or SNAP or any other social program that actually takes care of kids and want to get rid of government funded education.

That, and conservatives support the death penalty.

 

[Stephanie]

We need to start calling the Progressive/commie/democrat party what they are

they party that sanctions the killing of little BABIES. the party and people of DEATH

 

[Stephanie]

Abortion remains the right wing conservative, republican, and religious, moral crutch. Living children matter nada as living children require doing something other than mental feel good morality. What hypocrites the so called pro life people are.

Should Abortion Be Illegal Once a Heartbeat Is Detectable? | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum
A new forum, maybe...? | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum
The Way it Was (Pre-Roe v Wade) | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum
Obama in 2003: ‘i am pro-choice’ in all situations, including late-term abortions | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum
Pro-choice at record low...41 percent. | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

"Abolition of a woman's right to abortion, when and if she wants it, amounts to compulsory maternity: a form of rape by the State." Edward Abbey
.

It is despicable that Liberals are obsessed with the slaughter of children on demand and the selling of the children's body part. Talk about sicko but that takes the cake.

Liberals kill almost a million American children each year on demand for convenience sake. Then the children that survive the Liberals try to push into a welfare slave plantation that assures poverty in order to provide a power base for the filthy Democrat Party.

No one is "slaughtering" children or "selling" body parts.

It's also interesting to note that Conservatives support war, which actually kills actual children, balk at funding pre-natal care or SNAP or any other social program that actually takes care of kids and want to get rid of government funded education.

That, and conservatives support the death penalty.

GO DONATE your weekly paycheck. or here's a thing you can do. All you in favor of PP. GO breed LIKE rabbits, go abort them so you can DONATE them to PP. sick freaks

 

[Stephanie]

Lets get back to DONATING MONKEYS/animals. sound like a plan to me

this same people wailed and howled over this. but sit here yawning over those VIDEOS.

pictures of monkeys in a cage being used for research - Google Search