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The Political Economy

Progressivism as a major movement movement started with the Second Great Awakening, and the movement continued to be religiously based until about the 1930's when it began to merge with another older ideology; liberalism.

This is of course how the radical progressive anthem 'Battle Hymn of the Republic' got it's apocalyptic verbiage, and how 'America the Beautiful' called for divine intervention to "mend thine every flaw"



You may try to hide the provenance of Progressivism, but it comes from the same source as communism and Nazism....and demands the same end for society.

Progressives, socialists, communists, Fascists, Nazis and Modern Liberals:

...the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.

That is incorrect for a number of reasons

Cross of Gold speech - Wikipedia

http://www.ub.edu/graap/bel_Italy_fascist.pdf

http://www.ub.edu/graap/nazi.pdf

The Role of Faith in the Progressive Movement - Center for American Progress




Are you pretending that this does not describe the Progressive agenda?????

...the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.
 
Progressivism as a major movement movement started with the Second Great Awakening, and the movement continued to be religiously based until about the 1930's when it began to merge with another older ideology; liberalism.

This is of course how the radical progressive anthem 'Battle Hymn of the Republic' got it's apocalyptic verbiage, and how 'America the Beautiful' called for divine intervention to "mend thine every flaw"



You may try to hide the provenance of Progressivism, but it comes from the same source as communism and Nazism....and demands the same end for society.

Progressives, socialists, communists, Fascists, Nazis and Modern Liberals:

...the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.

That is incorrect for a number of reasons

Cross of Gold speech - Wikipedia

http://www.ub.edu/graap/bel_Italy_fascist.pdf

http://www.ub.edu/graap/nazi.pdf

The Role of Faith in the Progressive Movement - Center for American Progress




Are you pretending that this does not describe the Progressive agenda?????

...the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.

Nope. In fact, there are more controls on speech in Putin's Russia. Try speaking up against Islam there. :rolleyes:
 
Yer a real honey, DD
thank you for your kind words and thoughts.
The truth will set you free. Preach on, Sister!



She's wasting her time because she can't think for herself or answer a simple question, she can only cut and paste. Any bot can do that, she's hardly special.

I don't see you leftists backing up your idiotic assertions with facts like PoliticalChic does.
 
The dem guide to success is making a system where people are helpless and dependent. It never crosses their minds that people can succeed and that leaders should promote such success. Is it all about getting power, or do the Pelosi's and Schumers really believe that success is granted by the government?
 
The dem guide to success is making a system where people are helpless and dependent. It never crosses their minds that people can succeed and that leaders should promote such success. Is it all about getting power, or do the Pelosi's and Schumers really believe that success is granted by the government?


Yup.....the Founder's view....belief in the individual:
In Thoreau’s On the duty of Civil Disobedience, he states: “ There will never be a really free and enlightened State until the State comes to recognize the individual as a higher and independent power, from which all of its own power and authority are derived.”

...versus the view of Rousseau, Hegel and Marx: the collective, the state.
Hegel said “The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest”
 
Nice job of cherry-picking the numbers, I'm sure I could come up with as slanted a set to show he was a miserable failure. As I recall, Reagan was not the economic god he has been portrayed to be.
"...I'm sure I could come up with as slanted a set to show he was a miserable failure."


But you didn't, did you, hot air?


What you did do is prove what I wrote...
When the politics behind the economy is taken into consideration, the Progressives and their command and control policies fail in comparison….so they lie about the success of the other side.
Unlike you, I don't run from a challenge:
  • The results of Reaganomics are still debated. Critics point to the widening income gap, what they described as an atmosphere of greed, and the national debt tripling in eight years which ultimately reversed the post-World War II trend of a shrinking national debt as percentage of GDP.[5][6]
  • Much of the credit for the resolution of the stagflation is given to two causes: a three-year contraction of the money supply by the Federal Reserve Board under Paul Volcker, initiated in the last year of Carter's presidency, and long-term easing of supply and pricing in oil during the 1980s oil glut.
  • During Reagan's eight year presidency, the annual deficits averaged 4.0% of GDP, compared to a 2.2% average during the preceding eight years.[8]
  • Federal net outlays as a percent of GDP averaged 21.4% under Reagan, compared to 19.1% during the preceding eight years.[13]
  • Reagan significantly increased public expenditures
  • President Reagan raised taxes eleven times over the course of his presidency
  • Spending during the years Reagan budgeted (FY 1982–89) averaged 21.6% GDP, roughly tied with President Obama for the highest among any recent President.
  • manufacturing employment declined by 582,000 after rising 363,000 during the preceding eight years.[46]
  • The unemployment rate averaged 7.5% under Reagan, compared to an average 6.6% during the preceding eight years.
  • The average real hourly wage for production and nonsupervisory workers continued the decline that had begun in 1973, albeit at a slower rate, and remained below the pre-Reagan level in every Reagan year.[55]
  • The labor force participation rate increased by 2.6 percentage points during Reagan's eight years, compared to 3.9 percentage points during the preceding eight years.[56]
  • The top 1% of income earners' share of income before transfers and taxes rose from 9.0% in 1979 to a peak of 13.8% in 1986, before falling to 12.3% in 1989.
  • The top 1% share of income earners' of income after transfers and taxes rose from 7.4% in 1979 to a peak of 12.8% in 1986, before falling to 11.0% in 1989.
  • The bottom 90% had a lower share of the income in 1989 vs. 1979.[92]
  • The federal debt almost tripled, from $997 billion in 1981 to $2.857 trillion in 1989.
  • He eased bank regulations, but that helped create the Savings and Loan Crisis in 1989.
 
Nice job of cherry-picking the numbers, I'm sure I could come up with as slanted a set to show he was a miserable failure. As I recall, Reagan was not the economic god he has been portrayed to be.
"...I'm sure I could come up with as slanted a set to show he was a miserable failure."


But you didn't, did you, hot air?


What you did do is prove what I wrote...
When the politics behind the economy is taken into consideration, the Progressives and their command and control policies fail in comparison….so they lie about the success of the other side.
Unlike you, I don't run from a challenge:
  • The results of Reaganomics are still debated. Critics point to the widening income gap, what they described as an atmosphere of greed, and the national debt tripling in eight years which ultimately reversed the post-World War II trend of a shrinking national debt as percentage of GDP.[5][6]
  • Much of the credit for the resolution of the stagflation is given to two causes: a three-year contraction of the money supply by the Federal Reserve Board under Paul Volcker, initiated in the last year of Carter's presidency, and long-term easing of supply and pricing in oil during the 1980s oil glut.
  • During Reagan's eight year presidency, the annual deficits averaged 4.0% of GDP, compared to a 2.2% average during the preceding eight years.[8]
  • Federal net outlays as a percent of GDP averaged 21.4% under Reagan, compared to 19.1% during the preceding eight years.[13]
  • Reagan significantly increased public expenditures
  • President Reagan raised taxes eleven times over the course of his presidency
  • Spending during the years Reagan budgeted (FY 1982–89) averaged 21.6% GDP, roughly tied with President Obama for the highest among any recent President.
  • manufacturing employment declined by 582,000 after rising 363,000 during the preceding eight years.[46]
  • The unemployment rate averaged 7.5% under Reagan, compared to an average 6.6% during the preceding eight years.
  • The average real hourly wage for production and nonsupervisory workers continued the decline that had begun in 1973, albeit at a slower rate, and remained below the pre-Reagan level in every Reagan year.[55]
  • The labor force participation rate increased by 2.6 percentage points during Reagan's eight years, compared to 3.9 percentage points during the preceding eight years.[56]
  • The top 1% of income earners' share of income before transfers and taxes rose from 9.0% in 1979 to a peak of 13.8% in 1986, before falling to 12.3% in 1989.
  • The top 1% share of income earners' of income after transfers and taxes rose from 7.4% in 1979 to a peak of 12.8% in 1986, before falling to 11.0% in 1989.
  • The bottom 90% had a lower share of the income in 1989 vs. 1979.[92]
  • The federal debt almost tripled, from $997 billion in 1981 to $2.857 trillion in 1989.
  • He eased bank regulations, but that helped create the Savings and Loan Crisis in 1989.



In The End of Prosperity, supply side guru Art Laffer and Wall Street Journal chief financial writer Steve Moore point out that this Reagan recovery grew into a 25-year boom, with just slight interruptions by shallow, short recessions in 1990 and 2001. They wrote:

"We call this period, 1982-2007, the twenty-five year boom-the greatest period of wealth creation in the history of the planet. In 1980, the net worth-assets minus liabilities-of all U.S. households and business ... was $25 trillion in today's dollars. By 2007, ... net worth was just shy of $57 trillion. Adjusting for inflation, more wealth was created in America in the twenty-five year boom than in the previous two hundred years."
http://theccpp.org/2011/05/reaganomics-vs-obamanomics-facts-and-figures-1.html


“Between the early 1980s and 2007 we lived in an economic Golden Age. Never before have so many people advanced so far economically in so short a period of time as they have during the last 25 years. Until the credit crisis, 70 million people a year were joining the middle class. The U.S. kicked off this long boom with the economic reforms of Ronald Reagan, particularly his enormous income tax cuts. We burst from the economic stagnation of the 1970s into a dynamic, innovative, high-tech-oriented economy. Even in recent years the much-maligned U.S. did well. Between year-end 2002 and year-end 2007 U.S. growth exceeded the entire size of China's economy.”

How Capitalism Will Save Us


  1. Under Reagan, the debt went up $1.7 trillion, from $900 billion to $2.6 trillion.
  2. But….the national wealth went up $ 17 trillion
  3. Reagan's near-trillion-dollar bulge in defense spending transformed the global balance of power in favor of capitalism. Spurring a stock-market, energy, venture-capital, real-estate and employment boom, the Reagan tax-rate cuts and other pro-enterprise policies added some $17 trillion to America's private-sector assets, dwarfing the trillion-dollar rise in public-sector deficits and creating 45 million net new jobs at rising wages and salaries.
George Gilder: The Real Reagan Lesson for Romney-Ryan
Reaganomics - Wikipedia
 
During Reagan's eight year presidency, the annual deficits averaged 4.0% of GDP, compared to a 2.2% average during the preceding eight years.
I find it hilarious that leftists are suddenly concerned with spending whenever a conservative is in the White House.

President Reagan had to rebuild the military that Carter decimated, just like President Trump has to rebuild the military Obama destroyed.
 
During Reagan's eight year presidency, the annual deficits averaged 4.0% of GDP, compared to a 2.2% average during the preceding eight years.
I find it hilarious that leftists are suddenly concerned with spending whenever a conservative is in the White House.

President Reagan had to rebuild the military that Carter decimated, just like President Trump has to rebuild the military Obama destroyed.
There is good debt and bad debt. We should all be concerned about the latter and that is what Trump is racking up.

Rebuild the military? We are the greatest military power on the planet. That is what Reagan and Trump inherited. How big and powerful does it have to be? Who are we fighting, the Taliban? The Right loves to scare us into thinking we're somehow vulnerable but we can easily fight any two wars at the same time.
 
The idea is to not have to fight any wars.
That may be true in theory but in practice, not so much. We've been fighting an almost constant series of military actions since WWII.
Thanks to the Democrats.
Are you so ideological that you can't see or are you just so ignorant you don't know? Has any GOP president not engaged in a military action? Bush got us into Afghanistan and Iraq and we're still there today.
 
How the production and exchange of goods is accomplished is a re-telling of the major difference in view between the Founder’s nation, and that of one under the thumb of Progressives, Democrats.

Second only to a gun to the head, a position the Left has never been loath to pursue, control of a nation’s economy is the best way to force a population to be compliant.

It’s all about dependency.




1.With the Enlightenment came the view that mankind can do anything, can know everything, and is without limits in relation to the universe.

It gave rise to the French Revolution, and the end of religion as no longer useful: man became God. And no matter where and how often the idea came to chaos and destruction…..it persists today as communism, Progressivism, socialism, and Liberalism.

That attitude metastasized in the following way…”After…the industrial mobilization that produced victory in World War II, …the academic discipline of economics acquired the confidence of a scientific profession.
…John Kennedy exemplified the serene postwar confidence in the management of the economy…a basic discussion of the sophisticated and technical questions involved in keeping a great economic machinery moving ahead….basically an administrative or executive problem.” George Will.


2. The powers failed to recognize that the expertise was far more than one of economics; it was political. Nixon went further in the error, also believing that economics was simply one of administration….he failed so miserably that he instituted wage and price controls, “the most aggressive peacetime expansion of government power over the economy in American history.”

By the late 70s, stagflation: no growth and a 13% inflation rate.





3. To understand what Reagan, and later, Trump did, requires an understanding of the conservative views of the Founders, and compare that to the ‘government-as-god’ doctrines of the Progressives, Liberals, Democrats, who incorporate the ideas of Rousseau, Hegel, and Marx.

Reagan was elected to try his conservative hand at fixing the problem, using market forces rather than government. His understanding of the problem can be seen in his quip…The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.
To be sure, a capitalist economy, a free market economy, is a government creation to the extent that government ensures transparency through reliable information, and the freeing of markets from government control.




4. But, never count the Progressives out of the equation, as they control the media and the schools, and sure enough, economists made their way back, while discounting and denying the unmitigated success of the Reagan ‘golden age.’

Until they tripped up again….2008.


Next.
Kind of nail it this time
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The invasion of the Caribbean island Grenada in 1983, ordered by President Reagan, was the first major foreign event of the administration, as well as the first major operation conducted by the military since the Vietnam War.
That was a rescue operation for American medical students on the island. Nice try.
No it was an invasion meant to replace the legal government with one more to our liking. The outcome was a good one but it was still a military action few countries had the military to carry out:
The invasion began on the morning of 25 October 1983. The invading force consisted of the Army's rapid deployment force, Marines, Army Delta Force, Navy SEALs, and ancillary forces totaling 7,600 troops, together with Jamaican forces and troops of the Regional Security System (RSS).[9] The force defeated Grenadian resistance after a low-altitude airborne assault by Rangers on Point Salines Airport at the south end of the island, and a Marine helicopter and amphibious landing on the north end at Pearls Airport.​
 

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