The President with the worst average unemployment rate since World War II is?

[francoHFW]

Bullshit. I love the way all of Obama's accomplishments are based on what would have happened. This prediction comes from all the people who said Hillary had 98% chance of winning and that the economy would crator the minute Trump was innaugurated.

Business has picked up and stock market went up because trump promised to cut taxes and spend on infrastructure. We're waiting

Tax reform is underway - with you Stalinists digging your heels in to keep the middle class from prospering.

Don't give us that crap. Remember bush sent you $300 but sent his rich friends $300k

And when I complained that $300 wasn't much help you said send it back.

Then when I said he just added to the debt you said debt don't matter.

This ain't this stalinists first rodeo

Irrelevant.
You should compare 10 year rates
been around 2% since Reagan, irrapective of Pres
Now the trumpettes are having an orgasm of 3% this q.
Obama had > 3 % more than one Q
It's the long term rates that matter.
Read Levinson he said whoever is in charge we will have trouble getting to 3% ever again
World changed folks

It changes only because of leftwing economic policies, moron. The claim, which you deliberately got wrong, is that Obama didn't have a full year over 3%. Many such years occurred prior to his reign of error. Reagan had a full year over 5%. Here's a comparison of GDP growth between Reagan and Obama:

Left-wing policies such as what, Dupe? GOP obstructed everything Obama and Clinton wanted to do. Obama just allowed our wonderful economy to recover on its own without a corrupt GOP bubble and bust as they always do it seems. We still have Reaganist tax rates and policies giving it away to the rich like The Last 35 years, silly Dupe.

 

[pinqy]

Well, if you really thought it was meaningless, I think you would have stopped posting in this thread long ago, yet here you are again.

Why should I let your bullshit go unopposed?

When you post this, I will remind readers how meaningless it is by pointing out the gaping head wound in your logic....

One president takes the unemployment rate from 2% to 10%, increasing it one point per year. Another president reduces it two points per year from 26% to 10%. They both end at 10%......

Imbeciles like you come on forums like this to brag about how the former president’s average is less than the latter’s.

Anything to show the uppity nigxxer in a bad light.
No mention of his inheriting a recession

He had 75 months of straight jobs growth then Trump took a dump last month

Did you see this? How come the liberal media didn't tell me this?

Jobs fall by 33,000 in September as hurricanes hammer employment

US lost 33,000 jobs in Sept, vs 90,000 jobs increase expected

• The U.S. economy lost 33,000 jobs in September even as the unemployment rate fell to 4.2 percent, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reports.
• The jobs loss was the first monthly decline in seven years, when the economy was still pulling out of the Great Recession.

The way the Current Employment Statistics survey works is that if you didn't receive a paycheck for the pay period that includes the 12th of the month, you are not included as employed. (also excluded are all agricultural workers, self employed, domestic servants, under the table employees, and employees of the CIA, DIA, NGA, and NSA).

So the hurricanes caused a lot of temp unemployment. We'll see a large increase on Friday.
Compare to the Current Population Survey, which counts as employed everyone age 16 and older who either worked during the week containing the 12th or were temporarily absent due to vacation, weather, etc. That number went up over 900,000 in September.

Yes we all know how unemployment numbers work. Unfortunately you guys don't seem to remember when it's a Democrat in the white house.

"You guys?" For over 8 years I've been in these forums explaining pretty much every month how the unemployment numbers work. I can tell you, no, not everybody knows. And it doesn't matter at all to me if the President is a D or an R, my message has been consistent because I only deal with the facts.

Up until the election Republicans were saying the 4% unemployment numbers weren't real. Even Trump himself said so.

Look at any of my posts on unemployment during that time and you will find me arguing with Republicans explaining how the numbers are real and not manipulated.

 

[Faun]

September’s numbers were also revised up to show gains of 18,000 after having been previously estimated to decline by 33,000. - Job gains miss expectations, unemployment rate hits lowest since December 2000

Yay, the streak continues after all... 85 months of continuous job growth.

 

[U2Edge]

The monthly unemployment rate for October 2017 was 4.1%. This is the 10th unemployment report with Trump in office, his 10th month recorded for this list. This brings Trump's average unemployment rate for his term in office to date, down from 4.44% in September to 4.41% in October.


The President with the worst average unemployment rate since World War II is?

Gerald Ford: 7.77%

Average Unemployment Rates for US Presidents since after World War II:

01. Lyndon Johnson: 4.19%
02. Harry Truman: 4.26%
03. Donald Trump: 4.41%
04. Dwight Eisenhower: 4.89%
05. Richard Nixon: 5.00%
06. Bill Clinton: 5.20%
07. George W. Bush: 5.27%
08. John Kennedy: 5.98%
09. George H.W. Bush: 6.30%
10. Jimmy Carter: 6.54%
11. Barack Obama: 7.45%
12. Ronald Reagan: 7.54%
13. Gerald Ford: 7.77%



There are 40 months left in Trumps first Presidential term, assuming he completes it.

The labor force participation rate is at 62.7%, down from 63.1% in September.

 

[Faun]

The monthly unemployment rate for October 2017 was 4.1%. This is the 10th unemployment report with Trump in office, his 10th month recorded for this list. This brings Trump's average unemployment rate for his term in office to date, down from 4.44% in September to 4.41% in October.


The President with the worst average unemployment rate since World War II is?

Gerald Ford: 7.77%

Average Unemployment Rates for US Presidents since after World War II:

01. Lyndon Johnson: 4.19%
02. Harry Truman: 4.26%
03. Donald Trump: 4.41%
04. Dwight Eisenhower: 4.89%
05. Richard Nixon: 5.00%
06. Bill Clinton: 5.20%
07. George W. Bush: 5.27%
08. John Kennedy: 5.98%
09. George H.W. Bush: 6.30%
10. Jimmy Carter: 6.54%
11. Barack Obama: 7.45%
12. Ronald Reagan: 7.54%
13. Gerald Ford: 7.77%

^^^ still a meaningless statistic

 

[U2Edge]

The monthly unemployment rate for October 2017 was 4.1%. This is the 10th unemployment report with Trump in office, his 10th month recorded for this list. This brings Trump's average unemployment rate for his term in office to date, down from 4.44% in September to 4.41% in October.


The President with the worst average unemployment rate since World War II is?

Gerald Ford: 7.77%

Average Unemployment Rates for US Presidents since after World War II:

01. Lyndon Johnson: 4.19%
02. Harry Truman: 4.26%
03. Donald Trump: 4.41%
04. Dwight Eisenhower: 4.89%
05. Richard Nixon: 5.00%
06. Bill Clinton: 5.20%
07. George W. Bush: 5.27%
08. John Kennedy: 5.98%
09. George H.W. Bush: 6.30%
10. Jimmy Carter: 6.54%
11. Barack Obama: 7.45%
12. Ronald Reagan: 7.54%
13. Gerald Ford: 7.77%

^^^ still a meaningless statistic

Yet, here you are, once again.

 

[JakeStarkey]

And the highest since WWII was Reagan.

 

[Faun]

The monthly unemployment rate for October 2017 was 4.1%. This is the 10th unemployment report with Trump in office, his 10th month recorded for this list. This brings Trump's average unemployment rate for his term in office to date, down from 4.44% in September to 4.41% in October.


The President with the worst average unemployment rate since World War II is?

Gerald Ford: 7.77%

Average Unemployment Rates for US Presidents since after World War II:

01. Lyndon Johnson: 4.19%
02. Harry Truman: 4.26%
03. Donald Trump: 4.41%
04. Dwight Eisenhower: 4.89%
05. Richard Nixon: 5.00%
06. Bill Clinton: 5.20%
07. George W. Bush: 5.27%
08. John Kennedy: 5.98%
09. George H.W. Bush: 6.30%
10. Jimmy Carter: 6.54%
11. Barack Obama: 7.45%
12. Ronald Reagan: 7.54%
13. Gerald Ford: 7.77%

^^^ still a meaningless statistic

Yet, here you are, once again.

As are you.

 

[Faun]

There is now a record number of people out of the labor force, 95,358,000, as the labor force participation rate drops to tie the lowest it's been under Trump at 62.7%.

Funny how the right almost never talks about that anymore.

 

[U2Edge]

The monthly unemployment rate for November 2017 was 4.1%. This is the 11th unemployment report with Trump in office, his 11th month recorded for this list. This brings Trump's average unemployment rate for his term in office to date, down from 4.41% in October to 4.38% in November.


The President with the worst average unemployment rate since World War II is?

Gerald Ford: 7.77%

Average Unemployment Rates for US Presidents since after World War II:

01. Lyndon Johnson: 4.19%
02. Harry Truman: 4.26%
03. Donald Trump: 4.38%
04. Dwight Eisenhower: 4.89%
05. Richard Nixon: 5.00%
06. Bill Clinton: 5.20%
07. George W. Bush: 5.27%
08. John Kennedy: 5.98%
09. George H.W. Bush: 6.30%
10. Jimmy Carter: 6.54%
11. Barack Obama: 7.45%
12. Ronald Reagan: 7.54%
13. Gerald Ford: 7.77%



There are 39 months left in Trumps first Presidential term, assuming he completes it.

The labor force participation rate is at 62.7%, the same as it was in October.

 

[miketx]

The monthly unemployment rate for November 2017 was 4.1%. This is the 11th unemployment report with Trump in office, his 11th month recorded for this list. This brings Trump's average unemployment rate for his term in office to date, down from 4.41% in October to 4.38% in November.


The President with the worst average unemployment rate since World War II is?

Gerald Ford: 7.77%

Average Unemployment Rates for US Presidents since after World War II:

01. Lyndon Johnson: 4.19%
02. Harry Truman: 4.26%
03. Donald Trump: 4.38%
04. Dwight Eisenhower: 4.89%
05. Richard Nixon: 5.00%
06. Bill Clinton: 5.20%
07. George W. Bush: 5.27%
08. John Kennedy: 5.98%
09. George H.W. Bush: 6.30%
10. Jimmy Carter: 6.54%
11. Barack Obama: 7.45%
12. Ronald Reagan: 7.54%
13. Gerald Ford: 7.77%



There are 39 months left in Trumps first Presidential term, assuming he completes it.

The labor force participation rate is at 62.7%, the same as it was in October.

CNN?

 

[ph3iron]

The monthly unemployment rate for November 2017 was 4.1%. This is the 11th unemployment report with Trump in office, his 11th month recorded for this list. This brings Trump's average unemployment rate for his term in office to date, down from 4.41% in October to 4.38% in November.


The President with the worst average unemployment rate since World War II is?

Gerald Ford: 7.77%

Average Unemployment Rates for US Presidents since after World War II:

01. Lyndon Johnson: 4.19%
02. Harry Truman: 4.26%
03. Donald Trump: 4.38%
04. Dwight Eisenhower: 4.89%
05. Richard Nixon: 5.00%
06. Bill Clinton: 5.20%
07. George W. Bush: 5.27%
08. John Kennedy: 5.98%
09. George H.W. Bush: 6.30%
10. Jimmy Carter: 6.54%
11. Barack Obama: 7.45%
12. Ronald Reagan: 7.54%
13. Gerald Ford: 7.77%



There are 39 months left in Trumps first Presidential term, assuming he completes it.

The labor force participation rate is at 62.7%, the same as it was in October.

And how many inherited the worst recession since the 20s?

 

[my2¢]

Almost need two full terms to get a fair shake from the numbers. Ford took office in the summer of 1974 and so his numbers had quite a bit to do with the Arab oil embargo of late 1973 that tanked American car sales as folks abandoned our gas guzzlers and switched over to economical imports from Japan.

They may call it the Reagan Recession but it was Jimmy Carter who put in place Paul Volcker to slow the economy and attack a decade of runaway inflation.

Likewise Obama inherited a mess.

 

[edthecynic]

They may call it the Reagan Recession but it was Jimmy Carter who put in place Paul Volcker to slow the economy and attack a decade of runaway inflation.

It's called the Reagan Recession because the policies he enacted in 1981 caused it to peak Nov and Dec 1982.

 

[bripat9643]

They may call it the Reagan Recession but it was Jimmy Carter who put in place Paul Volcker to slow the economy and attack a decade of runaway inflation.

It's called the Reagan Recession because the policies he enacted in 1981 caused it to peak Nov and Dec 1982.

You're forgetting that under Carter we had the all time highest misery index ever recorded. Inflation was at 14% and unemplyment was at 7.5%. Interest rates aren't even included in the Misery Index, but they were at 21% for consumer loands and 14% for mortages. Fixing that couldn't be accomplished withut going through a recession.

 

[ph3iron]

They may call it the Reagan Recession but it was Jimmy Carter who put in place Paul Volcker to slow the economy and attack a decade of runaway inflation.

It's called the Reagan Recession because the policies he enacted in 1981 caused it to peak Nov and Dec 1982.

You're forgetting that under Carter we had the all time highest misery index ever recorded. Inflation was at 14% and unemplyment was at 7.5%. Interest rates aren't even included in the Misery Index, but they were at 21% for consumer loands and 14% for mortages. Fixing that couldn't be accomplished withut going through a recession.

Great for us corporists though.
cD s were earning 12%

 

[westwall]

There is now a record number of people out of the labor force, 95,358,000, as the labor force participation rate drops to tie the lowest it's been under Trump at 62.7%.

Funny how the right almost never talks about that anymore.

No, we talked about it all of the time. And it takes time to bring companies back that obummer chased away. obummer was the biggest destroyer of jobs this country has ever seen. He not only caused people to lose their jobs from the abortion known as obummer care, but he actually caused those jobs to LEAVE this country. Congrats, you're a moron.

 

[francoHFW]

There is now a record number of people out of the labor force, 95,358,000, as the labor force participation rate drops to tie the lowest it's been under Trump at 62.7%.

Funny how the right almost never talks about that anymore.

No, we talked about it all of the time. And it takes time to bring companies back that obummer chased away. obummer was the biggest destroyer of jobs this country has ever seen. He not only caused people to lose their jobs from the abortion known as obummer care, but he actually caused those jobs to LEAVE this country. Congrats, you're a moron.

All of which of course had nothing to do with the corrupt W bush World depression LOL! Super dupe.

 

[CowboyTed]

The monthly unemployment rate for November 2017 was 4.1%. This is the 11th unemployment report with Trump in office, his 11th month recorded for this list. This brings Trump's average unemployment rate for his term in office to date, down from 4.41% in October to 4.38% in November.


The President with the worst average unemployment rate since World War II is?

Gerald Ford: 7.77%

Average Unemployment Rates for US Presidents since after World War II:

01. Lyndon Johnson: 4.19%
02. Harry Truman: 4.26%
03. Donald Trump: 4.38%
04. Dwight Eisenhower: 4.89%
05. Richard Nixon: 5.00%
06. Bill Clinton: 5.20%
07. George W. Bush: 5.27%
08. John Kennedy: 5.98%
09. George H.W. Bush: 6.30%
10. Jimmy Carter: 6.54%
11. Barack Obama: 7.45%
12. Ronald Reagan: 7.54%
13. Gerald Ford: 7.77%



There are 39 months left in Trumps first Presidential term, assuming he completes it.

The labor force participation rate is at 62.7%, the same as it was in October.

Seriously, do you understand anything... We have repeatedly explained that talking about average unemployment is like saying the team with the average score higher is better... Sorry it what you were given and what you give it back as, determines success or failure....


So if unemployment wasn't lowering Trump would have to actually sabotage it... Well done, Trump did nothing, just living of Obama's Coattails...

Actually, the only real success Trump has had is taking credit for Obama's coattails...

 

[westwall]

There is now a record number of people out of the labor force, 95,358,000, as the labor force participation rate drops to tie the lowest it's been under Trump at 62.7%.

Funny how the right almost never talks about that anymore.

No, we talked about it all of the time. And it takes time to bring companies back that obummer chased away. obummer was the biggest destroyer of jobs this country has ever seen. He not only caused people to lose their jobs from the abortion known as obummer care, but he actually caused those jobs to LEAVE this country. Congrats, you're a moron.

All of which of course had nothing to do with the corrupt W bush World depression LOL! Super dupe.

No, it has everything to do with it super duper dupe. There is a political class that has been running this country for decades to their advantage. Morons like you think they are only one side. Enlightened people, like me, KNOW that the political class is made up of Dems and repubs, they don't care who "wins" the POTUS job, they just make damned sure it is one of them.

Dipshits like you haven't figured it out yet because you're an ignorant hater dupe with your head shoved so far up your ass you can't see anything but brown.