Ravi
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So, gang, what is your opinion of the reason behind the specific troll behavior I mention in the OP?
One theory is that it is a display of a level of sadism, of Machiavellian, psychopathic behavior.
Another is that it is a negative impulse that is essentially lubricated by the anonymity of the internet.
Or some combination therein, which seems likeliest to me.
Thoughts?
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Why do you do it?So, gang, what is your opinion of the reason behind the specific troll behavior I mention in the OP?
One theory is that it is a display of a level of sadism, of Machiavellian, psychopathic behavior.
Another is that it is a negative impulse that is essentially lubricated by the anonymity of the internet.
Or some combination therein, which seems likeliest to me.
Thoughts?
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I'd say because you feel powerless in real life.
That said calling those that disagree with you trolls makes you look partisan.
I was being completely serious. And I was not trying to shut down conversation. I am sorry you were offended.Why do you do it?So, gang, what is your opinion of the reason behind the specific troll behavior I mention in the OP?
One theory is that it is a display of a level of sadism, of Machiavellian, psychopathic behavior.
Another is that it is a negative impulse that is essentially lubricated by the anonymity of the internet.
Or some combination therein, which seems likeliest to me.
Thoughts?
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I'd say because you feel powerless in real life.
That said calling those that disagree with you trolls makes you look partisan.
Yep. Ignoring serious discussion to make a personal attack.
AND in an attempt to shut down discussion that reveals that much of his partisan allies (his?) behavior is trolling and thus sadism.
I was being completely serious. And I was not trying to shut down conversation. I am sorry you were offended.Why do you do it?So, gang, what is your opinion of the reason behind the specific troll behavior I mention in the OP?
One theory is that it is a display of a level of sadism, of Machiavellian, psychopathic behavior.
Another is that it is a negative impulse that is essentially lubricated by the anonymity of the internet.
Or some combination therein, which seems likeliest to me.
Thoughts?
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I'd say because you feel powerless in real life.
That said calling those that disagree with you trolls makes you look partisan.
Yep. Ignoring serious discussion to make a personal attack.
AND in an attempt to shut down discussion that reveals that much of his partisan allies (his?) behavior is trolling and thus sadism.
I am genuinely sorry that I offended you.I was being completely serious. And I was not trying to shut down conversation. I am sorry you were offended.Why do you do it?So, gang, what is your opinion of the reason behind the specific troll behavior I mention in the OP?
One theory is that it is a display of a level of sadism, of Machiavellian, psychopathic behavior.
Another is that it is a negative impulse that is essentially lubricated by the anonymity of the internet.
Or some combination therein, which seems likeliest to me.
Thoughts?
.
I'd say because you feel powerless in real life.
That said calling those that disagree with you trolls makes you look partisan.
Yep. Ignoring serious discussion to make a personal attack.
AND in an attempt to shut down discussion that reveals that much of his partisan allies (his?) behavior is trolling and thus sadism.
Another standard lib personal smear.
Personally attack people, then pretend that their taking offense at being insulted is a flaw on their part.
And you still have not really addressed the OP or the topic.
Sadism? My goodness.
I am genuinely sorry that I offended you.I was being completely serious. And I was not trying to shut down conversation. I am sorry you were offended.Why do you do it?So, gang, what is your opinion of the reason behind the specific troll behavior I mention in the OP?
One theory is that it is a display of a level of sadism, of Machiavellian, psychopathic behavior.
Another is that it is a negative impulse that is essentially lubricated by the anonymity of the internet.
Or some combination therein, which seems likeliest to me.
Thoughts?
.
I'd say because you feel powerless in real life.
That said calling those that disagree with you trolls makes you look partisan.
Yep. Ignoring serious discussion to make a personal attack.
AND in an attempt to shut down discussion that reveals that much of his partisan allies (his?) behavior is trolling and thus sadism.
Another standard lib personal smear.
Personally attack people, then pretend that their taking offense at being insulted is a flaw on their part.
And you still have not really addressed the OP or the topic.
I've already addressed the topic.
Most likely another goal is to derail conversations that they don't like.I am genuinely sorry that I offended you.I was being completely serious. And I was not trying to shut down conversation. I am sorry you were offended.Why do you do it?
I'd say because you feel powerless in real life.
That said calling those that disagree with you trolls makes you look partisan.
Yep. Ignoring serious discussion to make a personal attack.
AND in an attempt to shut down discussion that reveals that much of his partisan allies (his?) behavior is trolling and thus sadism.
Another standard lib personal smear.
Personally attack people, then pretend that their taking offense at being insulted is a flaw on their part.
And you still have not really addressed the OP or the topic.
I've already addressed the topic.
No, you didn't.
You twisted Mac's words and implied that HE was a troll, and insulted him, and marginalized the topic, but in no way seriously addressed the issue.
Most likely another goal is to derail conversations that they don't like.I am genuinely sorry that I offended you.I was being completely serious. And I was not trying to shut down conversation. I am sorry you were offended.Yep. Ignoring serious discussion to make a personal attack.
AND in an attempt to shut down discussion that reveals that much of his partisan allies (his?) behavior is trolling and thus sadism.
Another standard lib personal smear.
Personally attack people, then pretend that their taking offense at being insulted is a flaw on their part.
And you still have not really addressed the OP or the topic.
I've already addressed the topic.
No, you didn't.
You twisted Mac's words and implied that HE was a troll, and insulted him, and marginalized the topic, but in no way seriously addressed the issue.
She's certainly trying that here.
Another goal would be to get the thread shut down.
While I appreciate the examples of my point that they provide, I don't want the thread shut down.
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He is a troll. All his threads are meant to bait. It doesn't get more trollish than that.
It's more fun to laugh at troll threads.
Serious discussions can be found all over the forum.
Btw, he invariably "admits" in his threads that he posted them to get a negative reaction. IMO that is always after his threads backfire on him.
There has to be a need that is being addressed with this behavior, so I can see #3. And I don't assign this particular behavior with intelligence -- some of the people who behave that way are clearly intelligent. I think it has to do largely with the satisfying of some kind of need instead.Right off hand I'd say:
1 -- the lack of direct contact removes a barrier that otherwise inhibits a person. This is like road rage in a way.
2 -- discussion groups such as this tends to attract hardened partisans who view politics as warfare.
3 -- people who never received attention from their parents for anything positive learned at an early age that the only thing that resulted in any attention at all was acting out, so they repeat that pattern on line.
4 -- People with low I.Q.s tend to repeat talking points rather than offering any sort of logic or reason, and so attract that wrath of those who do not suffer fools gladly.
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Or, in my own personal terminology, I just belch out whatever happens to be rattling around in my little brain, and I don't really care whether someone agrees with it or not.I do not write for those who agree with me, nor do not I write for those who will always disagree with me, I write for those who can still reason whether I am right or wrong..
It's the reactions I find so interesting. Thinking this through a bit, I suspect that the troll behavior (making everything nasty & personal) could be both based on satisfying some kind of emotional need AND self-exacerbating - the darker forces within our culture are essentially feeding on themselves, spreading.
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That's the way it goes. A thread about what Hillary did, how long does it take before the first "oh yeah but Trump " post appears? Or vice versa? Sad.Mods, I'm hoping you won't close the thread now that people are trying to derail it.
No names were mentioned in the OP; this could have been an interesting discussion regarding forums, articles, columns, etc. Trolls exist all over the political spectrum. All over the ideological spectrum. All over the social spectrum. All over the cultural spectrum.
This is the CDZ. Is there anywhere we can post without having this happen?
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Yep.That's the way it goes. A thread about what Hillary did, how long does it take before the first "oh yeah but Trump " post appears? Or vice versa? Sad.Mods, I'm hoping you won't close the thread now that people are trying to derail it.
No names were mentioned in the OP; this could have been an interesting discussion regarding forums, articles, columns, etc. Trolls exist all over the political spectrum. All over the ideological spectrum. All over the social spectrum. All over the cultural spectrum.
This is the CDZ. Is there anywhere we can post without having this happen?
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Yep.That's the way it goes. A thread about what Hillary did, how long does it take before the first "oh yeah but Trump " post appears? Or vice versa? Sad.Mods, I'm hoping you won't close the thread now that people are trying to derail it.
No names were mentioned in the OP; this could have been an interesting discussion regarding forums, articles, columns, etc. Trolls exist all over the political spectrum. All over the ideological spectrum. All over the social spectrum. All over the cultural spectrum.
This is the CDZ. Is there anywhere we can post without having this happen?
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I'm gonna try, yet again, to drag this back to the point of the thread.
What do you suppose is the motivation behind internet trolling? This thread has provided a few interesting ideas so far.
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In the Flame Zone mostly. I know there is a lot of flaming going on there but we also have serious discussions. I would say in comparison to the insults flung in the main forums the ones in the FZ are mild. Plus we police our own.It's more fun to laugh at troll threads.
Wow. You and I clearly have differing ideas of what is "fun to laugh at." Be that as it may, one still need not reply to "baiting" remarks if laughing at them is the thing one seeks to enjoy.
Serious discussions can be found all over the forum.
Tell me where the hell they are. I've looked for them and have not succeeded in finding many, so many, that is, as is implied by "all over the forum."
Btw, he invariably "admits" in his threads that he posted them to get a negative reaction. IMO that is always after his threads backfire on him.
Okay. I'll take your word for that. I'm not sure how that affects whether anyone "takes the bait."