The real reason we have an electoral college instead of using the popular vote

[Weatherman2020]

Only one party who wants to use skin color to deny jobs and education - Democrats

 

[Weatherman2020]

Nope. Not because of some visionary genius by the Founders. Not some remedy for small states vs. large states, or rural vs. urban.

Like just about everything else in the history of America, it was connected to race, and slavery.

To put it simply -

Slaves couldn't vote, but they were counted at 3/5ths apiece to determine congressional representation.

The Southern states were thus at a disadvantage if the popular vote were to determine the winner,

but they got a big boost by the use of electors representing the size of their congressional delegations, since the counting of the slaves increased the number of house representatives those states were entitled to.

The Southern slave states got their way and that's where the electoral college comes from.

Can you please provide links to your research that this was the founders reasoning? Or perhaps this is just another typical liberal rant in which you employ racism to explain anything that doesn't go your way.

3/5 rule and the electoral college - Google Search

The left can't even read their own links.

"For the most part, those who opposed slavery only wanted to consider the free people of a population, while those in favor wanted to include slaves in the population count. This would provide for slave holders to have many more seats in the House of Representatives and more representation in the Electoral College."

 

[Divine Wind]

Nope. Not because of some visionary genius by the Founders. Not some remedy for small states vs. large states, or rural vs. urban.

Like just about everything else in the history of America, it was connected to race, and slavery.

To put it simply -

Slaves couldn't vote, but they were counted at 3/5ths apiece to determine congressional representation.

The Southern states were thus at a disadvantage if the popular vote were to determine the winner,

but they got a big boost by the use of electors representing the size of their congressional delegations, since the counting of the slaves increased the number of house representatives those states were entitled to.

The Southern slave states got their way and that's where the electoral college comes from.

It's obvious you're butt hurt… LOL

Ya think? The LWers have been screaming like two-year olds ever since they lost the election. What will be very interesting is all of the unintended consequences if they do succeed in opening up the Constitution for revision. I doubt it will turn out the way they like.

 

[kwc57]

Nope. Not because of some visionary genius by the Founders. Not some remedy for small states vs. large states, or rural vs. urban.

Like just about everything else in the history of America, it was connected to race, and slavery.

To put it simply -

Slaves couldn't vote, but they were counted at 3/5ths apiece to determine congressional representation.

The Southern states were thus at a disadvantage if the popular vote were to determine the winner,

but they got a big boost by the use of electors representing the size of their congressional delegations, since the counting of the slaves increased the number of house representatives those states were entitled to.

The Southern slave states got their way and that's where the electoral college comes from.

It warms the hearts of conservatives everywhere when liberals finally take an interest in our Constitution.

 

[Penelope]

The southern states actually wanted slaves to count as full people, so no, they did not entirely get their way.

The fight over congressional representation and who gets to elect the president were two different arguments.

Wrong. The 3/5ths compromise gave a state like Virginia a boost of about 175,000 in population to be counted towards determining the number of House Representatives Virginia got.

Yes and while it did give them an elector boost, the real fight over presidential elections was between popular vote, the EC (the compromise) and selection by State vote via the state legislatures.

Jefferson's win in 1800 depended on the extra electors that the slave states had because they had so many slaves.

Your right, the deplorables never admit to being wrong which they usually are. Thank you for bringing this up.

Go find yourself a pogrom, asshole.

They resort to calling names, as they have no intelligent reply in defense of their ignorance.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Nope. Not because of some visionary genius by the Founders. Not some remedy for small states vs. large states, or rural vs. urban.

Like just about everything else in the history of America, it was connected to race, and slavery.

To put it simply -

Slaves couldn't vote, but they were counted at 3/5ths apiece to determine congressional representation.

The Southern states were thus at a disadvantage if the popular vote were to determine the winner,

but they got a big boost by the use of electors representing the size of their congressional delegations, since the counting of the slaves increased the number of house representatives those states were entitled to.

The Southern slave states got their way and that's where the electoral college comes from.

Can you please provide links to your research that this was the founders reasoning? Or perhaps this is just another typical liberal rant in which you employ racism to explain anything that doesn't go your way.

3/5 rule and the electoral college - Google Search

The left can't even read their own links.

"For the most part, those who opposed slavery only wanted to consider the free people of a population, while those in favor wanted to include slaves in the population count. This would provide for slave holders to have many more seats in the House of Representatives and more representation in the Electoral College."

That's exactly what the OP said.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Wrong. The 3/5ths compromise gave a state like Virginia a boost of about 175,000 in population to be counted towards determining the number of House Representatives Virginia got.

Yes and while it did give them an elector boost, the real fight over presidential elections was between popular vote, the EC (the compromise) and selection by State vote via the state legislatures.

Jefferson's win in 1800 depended on the extra electors that the slave states had because they had so many slaves.

Your right, the deplorables never admit to being wrong which they usually are. Thank you for bringing this up.

Go find yourself a pogrom, asshole.

They resort to calling names, as they have no intelligent reply in defense of their ignorance.

Says the moron that just called people deplorables.....really?

 

[martybegan]

Wrong. The 3/5ths compromise gave a state like Virginia a boost of about 175,000 in population to be counted towards determining the number of House Representatives Virginia got.

Yes and while it did give them an elector boost, the real fight over presidential elections was between popular vote, the EC (the compromise) and selection by State vote via the state legislatures.

Jefferson's win in 1800 depended on the extra electors that the slave states had because they had so many slaves.

Your right, the deplorables never admit to being wrong which they usually are. Thank you for bringing this up.

Go find yourself a pogrom, asshole.

They resort to calling names, as they have no intelligent reply in defense of their ignorance.

I give intelligent replies to intelligent posters. You get nothing but disdain and name calling, because that's all you deserve.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Nope. Not because of some visionary genius by the Founders. Not some remedy for small states vs. large states, or rural vs. urban.

Like just about everything else in the history of America, it was connected to race, and slavery.

To put it simply -

Slaves couldn't vote, but they were counted at 3/5ths apiece to determine congressional representation.

The Southern states were thus at a disadvantage if the popular vote were to determine the winner,

but they got a big boost by the use of electors representing the size of their congressional delegations, since the counting of the slaves increased the number of house representatives those states were entitled to.

The Southern slave states got their way and that's where the electoral college comes from.

Can you please provide links to your research that this was the founders reasoning? Or perhaps this is just another typical liberal rant in which you employ racism to explain anything that doesn't go your way.

3/5 rule and the electoral college - Google Search

The left can't even read their own links.

"For the most part, those who opposed slavery only wanted to consider the free people of a population, while those in favor wanted to include slaves in the population count. This would provide for slave holders to have many more seats in the House of Representatives and more representation in the Electoral College."

1. What link?
2. Nothing you're quoting contradicts anything I said.

 

[Penelope]

Yes and while it did give them an elector boost, the real fight over presidential elections was between popular vote, the EC (the compromise) and selection by State vote via the state legislatures.

Jefferson's win in 1800 depended on the extra electors that the slave states had because they had so many slaves.

Your right, the deplorables never admit to being wrong which they usually are. Thank you for bringing this up.

Go find yourself a pogrom, asshole.

They resort to calling names, as they have no intelligent reply in defense of their ignorance.

I give intelligent replies to intelligent posters. You get nothing but disdain and name calling, because that's all you deserve.

No you do not have an intelligent reply and that is why you call people names.

 

[martybegan]

Jefferson's win in 1800 depended on the extra electors that the slave states had because they had so many slaves.

Your right, the deplorables never admit to being wrong which they usually are. Thank you for bringing this up.

Go find yourself a pogrom, asshole.

They resort to calling names, as they have no intelligent reply in defense of their ignorance.

I give intelligent replies to intelligent posters. You get nothing but disdain and name calling, because that's all you deserve.

No you do not have an intelligent reply and that is why you call people names.

if you scan the body of my replies, there are plenty of intelligent replies. However, again, you don't deserve that courtesy, and NYcarbineer barely does, sometimes.

So fuck off you jew hating twat.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Nope. Not because of some visionary genius by the Founders. Not some remedy for small states vs. large states, or rural vs. urban.

Like just about everything else in the history of America, it was connected to race, and slavery.

To put it simply -

Slaves couldn't vote, but they were counted at 3/5ths apiece to determine congressional representation.

The Southern states were thus at a disadvantage if the popular vote were to determine the winner,

but they got a big boost by the use of electors representing the size of their congressional delegations, since the counting of the slaves increased the number of house representatives those states were entitled to.

The Southern slave states got their way and that's where the electoral college comes from.

It warms the hearts of conservatives everywhere when liberals finally take an interest in our Constitution.

And show you something you never knew? lol

 

[NYcarbineer]

Your right, the deplorables never admit to being wrong which they usually are. Thank you for bringing this up.

Go find yourself a pogrom, asshole.

They resort to calling names, as they have no intelligent reply in defense of their ignorance.

I give intelligent replies to intelligent posters. You get nothing but disdain and name calling, because that's all you deserve.

No you do not have an intelligent reply and that is why you call people names.

if you scan the body of my replies, there are plenty of intelligent replies. However, again, you don't deserve that courtesy, and NYcarbineer barely does, sometimes.

So fuck off you jew hating twat.

You can leave the thread. No one's stopping you.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Nope. Not because of some visionary genius by the Founders. Not some remedy for small states vs. large states, or rural vs. urban.

Like just about everything else in the history of America, it was connected to race, and slavery.

To put it simply -

Slaves couldn't vote, but they were counted at 3/5ths apiece to determine congressional representation.

The Southern states were thus at a disadvantage if the popular vote were to determine the winner,

but they got a big boost by the use of electors representing the size of their congressional delegations, since the counting of the slaves increased the number of house representatives those states were entitled to.

The Southern slave states got their way and that's where the electoral college comes from.

It's obvious you're butt hurt… LOL

Butt hurt is the new race card.

 

[Auld Phart]

Your right, the deplorables never admit to being wrong which they usually are. Thank you for bringing this up.

Go find yourself a pogrom, asshole.

They resort to calling names, as they have no intelligent reply in defense of their ignorance.

I give intelligent replies to intelligent posters. You get nothing but disdain and name calling, because that's all you deserve.

No you do not have an intelligent reply and that is why you call people names.

if you scan the body of my replies, there are plenty of intelligent replies. However, again, you don't deserve that courtesy, and NYcarbineer barely does, sometimes.

So fuck off you jew hating twat.

If they don't agree with her viewpoint, how can they be intelligent?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Your right, the deplorables never admit to being wrong which they usually are. Thank you for bringing this up.

Go find yourself a pogrom, asshole.

They resort to calling names, as they have no intelligent reply in defense of their ignorance.

I give intelligent replies to intelligent posters. You get nothing but disdain and name calling, because that's all you deserve.

No you do not have an intelligent reply and that is why you call people names.

if you scan the body of my replies, there are plenty of intelligent replies. However, again, you don't deserve that courtesy, and NYcarbineer barely does, sometimes.

So fuck off you jew hating twat.

Get over yourself. You have no call to accuse me of not wanting to debate on the issues.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Nope. Not because of some visionary genius by the Founders. Not some remedy for small states vs. large states, or rural vs. urban.

Like just about everything else in the history of America, it was connected to race, and slavery.

To put it simply -

Slaves couldn't vote, but they were counted at 3/5ths apiece to determine congressional representation.

The Southern states were thus at a disadvantage if the popular vote were to determine the winner,

but they got a big boost by the use of electors representing the size of their congressional delegations, since the counting of the slaves increased the number of house representatives those states were entitled to.

The Southern slave states got their way and that's where the electoral college comes from.

Can you please provide links to your research that this was the founders reasoning? Or perhaps this is just another typical liberal rant in which you employ racism to explain anything that doesn't go your way.

3/5 rule and the electoral college - Google Search

The left can't even read their own links.

"For the most part, those who opposed slavery only wanted to consider the free people of a population, while those in favor wanted to include slaves in the population count. This would provide for slave holders to have many more seats in the House of Representatives and more representation in the Electoral College."

1. What link?
2. Nothing you're quoting contradicts anything I said.

The Southern slave states got their way and that's where the electoral college comes from.

Pure lie. Pure unadulterated lie.

Why does the agenda of the left always require you to lie? The electoral college was a given in order to keep a candidate from a large state from dominating the government.

 

[Divine Wind]

Yes and while it did give them an elector boost, the real fight over presidential elections was between popular vote, the EC (the compromise) and selection by State vote via the state legislatures.

Jefferson's win in 1800 depended on the extra electors that the slave states had because they had so many slaves.

Your right, the deplorables never admit to being wrong which they usually are. Thank you for bringing this up.

Go find yourself a pogrom, asshole.

They resort to calling names, as they have no intelligent reply in defense of their ignorance.

Says the moron that just called people deplorables.....really?

Not just people, but a quarter of all voting Americans.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Nope. Not because of some visionary genius by the Founders. Not some remedy for small states vs. large states, or rural vs. urban.

Like just about everything else in the history of America, it was connected to race, and slavery.

To put it simply -

Slaves couldn't vote, but they were counted at 3/5ths apiece to determine congressional representation.

The Southern states were thus at a disadvantage if the popular vote were to determine the winner,

but they got a big boost by the use of electors representing the size of their congressional delegations, since the counting of the slaves increased the number of house representatives those states were entitled to.

The Southern slave states got their way and that's where the electoral college comes from.

It's obvious you're butt hurt… LOL

Butt hurt is the new race card.

 

[martybegan]

Go find yourself a pogrom, asshole.

They resort to calling names, as they have no intelligent reply in defense of their ignorance.

I give intelligent replies to intelligent posters. You get nothing but disdain and name calling, because that's all you deserve.

No you do not have an intelligent reply and that is why you call people names.

if you scan the body of my replies, there are plenty of intelligent replies. However, again, you don't deserve that courtesy, and NYcarbineer barely does, sometimes.

So fuck off you jew hating twat.

You can leave the thread. No one's stopping you.

Nope, you are stuck with me, and so is the nazi twat Penelope.