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I was not going to start a new thread on the forums, but this one seems to be a must.
I know that there are many well meaning people on these threads who want to see an end to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, like Coyote and many others. And then, there are those who are very ill meaning and do nothing but bash Israel and Jews over everything.
I believe that any and all, need to be reminded that this is Jewish land. It has been Jewish land for over 3000 years, and never contested by any one of its invaders and conquerors until the "dreadful day" when the Jews assumed that they could legally regain sovereignty over it and the Balfour Declaration happened and the Mandate for Palestine was to give the Jews their ancient homeland back.
We all know what has happened since 1920.
But what many do not know and do not seem to be aware of is what the people who have been calling themselves Palestinians since 1964 have been doing to ancient places they should have been claiming as their own, for after all, do they not say that they have been on the land as the Ancient Palestinians for the past 5000, no - 6000, no - 10000 years?
Aren't these ancient places and artifacts in Jerusalem and in Judea and Samaria part of the Palestinian History? Then why are they destroying any and all of it?
This is what has been going on for decades. Why are the "Palestinians" destroying their alleged history?
Palestinians destroying ancient Herodian and Hashmonean antiquities - literally bulldozing Jewish history ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News
We've discussed the The Temple Mount Sifting Project before:
The Temple Mount Sifting Project (formerly known as the Temple Mount Salvage Operation) is an Israeli archaeological project begun in 2005 dedicated to recovering archaeological artifacts from 400 truckloads of topsoil removed from the Temple Mount by the Waqf during the construction of the underground el-Marwani Mosque from 1996 to 1999.[1] The project is under the academic auspices of Bar Ilan University and until 2017 was funded by the Ir David Foundation and Israel Exploration Society.The destruction of so many tons of property from the Temple Mount was the biggest archaeological crime in history.
The project webpage is now warning of other large-scale destruction of Jewish history by Palestinians, ISIS-style.
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In full view of people passing on the highway 90, Palestinians are using bulldozers and other heavy equipment to destroy Second Temple-era Jewish settlements in order to build a new village.
This is all happening in Area B, under Palestinian administrative control.
Moreover, it looks like Palestinian antiquities thieves are working in the area at night to steal whatever ancient artifacts they can find to sell on the market.
The article notes that similar destruction has recently begun in the area of the Hasmonean palaces in Jericho.
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Give Area C and the former Jewish Quarter and the Temple Mount to the invading Arabs who are now calling themselves the ancient inhabitants of the land, who should be protecting their ancient history and making tourism out of it?
Which one of you would dare do so?
Does the UN have any say on the Arabs destroying other people's ancient places?
Where has UNESCO been all of this time? What is their position about the endless destruction of Jewish History? Have they not complained about ISIS destroying antiquity?
Oh, wait......they have been giving Palestinian Status to Jewish places like the Cave of the Patriarchs and Rachel's Tomb, and many other places.
I guess if the UN is in on it, then there is no hope for the Jewish people to ever get their ancient lands back, much less be allowed to freely visit those places, which is true when it comes to the Cave and the Tombs, etc, where Jews can only visit if they have a military escort.
Questions:
How can peace be achieved with the PA, the alleged partner for Peace, when it is the PA itself which allows such destruction to happen?
How can peace be achieved when destroying Israel is still in the Hamas and PLO, and Fatah charters and is taught on a daily basis to all Arabs who live in Gaza and areas A and B, and C and even in Israel?
What in the world is going to be done about the endless destruction and the want to destroy all which is Jewish on the Land of Israel, which does include all of Judea and Samaria which is the land of the Jewish People.
(I will not eve speculate what may already have been done to Jewish history in Jordan and Gaza )
DO the Arabs have the right to destroy any and all Jewish History they find and never have to answer to the rest of the world, much less to the Jewish People?
Did Muslims and Christians protect the sites or did they decide that they owned those sites, especially Muslims, as the Jews were a minority and under Islamic "protection".The Arabs, both Christian and Muslim, protected the sites of the patriarchs for 1400 years.
jcpa.org
Did Muslims and Christians protect the sites or did they decide that they owned those sites, especially Muslims, as the Jews were a minority and under Islamic "protection".
Once Jews became sovereign of part of their ancient homeland that protection seems to have been revoked not only for the humans but also for all the sites as proven by endless destructions of he Tombs of Rachel and of Joseph.
How many times has the Cave of the Patriarchs been attacked?
Why is the Cave of Patriarchs called a mosque now when it was not before 1948?
Why is the Temple Mount called a mosque now, when it was not before 1948?
Why this?
The Danger to Al-Aksa from Muslim Building Activity in Solomon's Stables
While no one accuses the Muslims of seeking to bring down Al-Aksa, the danger stemmed directly from their building activity at Solomon’s Stables
There is only respect and protection for Jewish sites if they are TOTALLY under Islamic control.
www.jpost.com
www.haaretz.com
I will mark an appointment for you with your Psychiatrist. You will soon hear from them.Muslims revere the patriarchs too. Solomon's stables?
There is no temple mount. It was the city dump when Omar arrived.
It's been called Al Aksa mosque and Haram Al Shariff for 1400 years.
I will mark an appointment for you with your Psychiatrist. You will soon hear from them.
www.nationalgeographic.com
time.com
[ Can Surada rewrite the history of all of these sites being destroyed by Arabs? At least, when it comes to destroying in Saudi Arabia, it looks like they are making more space for tourists, pilgrims and other necessary things (wink) ]
Q&A: Why Sunni Extremists Are Destroying Ancient Religious Sites in Mosul
A rich and diverse history is being lost as Islamic extremists destroy religious sites in Mosul and run off the city's remaining Christians.
[Not even early Islamic history gets any respect ]
Destroyed sites[edit]
Below is a complete list of destroyed sites:
Mosques[edit]
- The Mosque of al-Manaratain.[14]
- Mosque and tomb of Sayyid Imam al-Uraidhi ibn Ja'far al-Sadiq, destroyed by dynamite on August 13, 2002.[citation needed]
- The Mosque of Abu Rasheed.[22]
- Salman al-Farsi Mosque, in Medina.[22]
- Raj'at ash-Shams Mosque, in Medina.[22]
- Mosque and tomb of Hamza at Mount Uhud.
Cemeteries and tombs[edit]
- The tombs at Jannat al-Baqi in Medina, leveled.
- Jannat al-Mu'alla, the ancient cemetery at Mecca.[22]
- Grave of Hamida al-Barbariyya, the mother of Imam Musa al-Kadhim.
- Tombs of Hamza and other casualties of the Battle of Uhud were demolished at Mount Uhud.[22]
- Tomb of Eve in Jeddah,[22] sealed with concrete in 1975.[citation needed]
- Grave of Abdullah, the father of Muhammad.
Historical religious sites[edit]
- The house of Mawlid where Muhammad is believed to have been born in 570. Originally turned into a library, it now lies under a rundown building which was built 70 years ago as a compromise after Wahhabi clerics called for it to be demolished.[23]
- The house of Khadija, Muhammad's first wife. Muslims believe he received some of the first revelations there. It was also where his children Zainab bint Muhammad, Ruqayyah bint Muhammad, Umm Kulthum bint Muhammad, Fatimah, Qasim and Abd-Allah ibn Muhammad were born. After it was rediscovered during the Haram extensions in 1989, it was covered over and it was made into a library.[citation needed]
- A Hilton hotel stands on the site of the house of Islam's first caliph, Abu Bakr.[24]
- House of Muhammed in Medina, where he lived after the migration from Mecca.[22]
- Dar Al-Arqam, the first Islamic school where Muhammad taught.[23] It now lies under the extension of the Masjid Al-Haram of Mecca.[citation needed]
- Qubbat' al-Thanaya, the burial site of Muhammed's incisor that was broken in the Battle of Uhud.[14]
- Mashrubat Umm Ibrahim, built to mark the location of the house where Muhammad's son, Ibrahim, was born to Mariah.[citation needed]
- Dome which served as a canopy over the Well of Zamzam.[22]
- Bayt al-Ahzan of Sayyida Fatima, in Medina.[22]
- House of Imam Ja'far al-Sadiq, in Medina.[22]
- Mahhalla complex of Banu Hashim, in Mecca.[22]
- House of Ali where Hasan and Husayn were born.[22]
- House of Hamza.[25]
Historical military structures[edit]
- Ajyad Fortress, 19th-century Ottoman castle demolished and replaced with the Abraj Al Bait[26]
Saudi Arabia Bulldozes Over Its Heritage
Over 98% of the Kingdom's historical and religious sites have been destroyed since 1985, according to the U.K.-based Islamic Heritage Research Foundation
We are talking of destroying Jewish history and you come up with a stupid post Muslim era rewriting of Adam and Eve.Legend has it that Adam and Eve were reunited and forgiven 130 years after the Fall in Mecca but Eve was finally buried in Jidda . The tomb was very narrow and 90 feet long. Goes along with the legend that they were 90 feet tall. Haven't you ever seen the tomb?
We are talking of destroying Jewish history and you come up with a stupid post Muslim era rewriting of Adam and Eve.
It took you this long, from your last post, to call your friends to come up with that?
Everything about Islam is a rewriting of Jewish History.
Amazing how Arabs cannot find their own history before Islam, which is totally borrowed from Judaism, if their lives depended on it.
I have known the legend for 50 years. Everything about Christianity is a rewrite of Jewish history..
Look how the Jews borrowed from Sumer, Egypt and the Ugarit tablets..
What on earth are you talking about?As in borrowing the Hiroshima story from Japan?
It's a strange definition of history you have.
What on earth are you talking about?
No Temple Mount?Muslims revere the patriarchs too. Solomon's stables?
There is no temple mount. It was the city dump when Omar arrived.
It's been called Al Aksa mosque and Haram Al Shariff for 1400 years.
www.israelunwired.com
palwatch.org
