The Right's love affair with Russia...

[Auld Phart]

The ideology of a state, or a few states, dont' give them the right to rule the country

It isn't the ideology of the state, but of the people within that state. States are not people, people are people

And people who love people are the luckiest people in the world.

I'll believe that when NY, Ca, Mass turn Red

 

[Rustic]

Like I said this is supposed to be a capitalist republic, not a shit eating democracy of mob rule...

Translation, it's a system rigged to keep the will of the people from abolishing slavery. At least not without a civil war.

Strawman... much

 

[Iceweasel]

Then why does it say "we the people" and not "we the states?"

The states don't speak. The people that comprise the states do. You'll need to abolish statehood before you can carry out your popular vote wet dream. Otherwise you need 3/4th of them to go along and most don't want California running (or ruining) their states.

 

[postman]

Like I said this is supposed to be a capitalist republic, not a shit eating democracy of mob rule...

Translation, it's a system rigged to keep the will of the people from abolishing slavery. At least not without a civil war.

slavery hasn't been abolished?

Not by being voted out when a majority of Americans decided it had to go. It took the force of arms and a civil war, because the electoral college rules.

 

[Rustic]

Alaska could have but a single resident, and not lose any votes for president.

There's nothing strange about it. This is the UNITED STATES. How ignorant!

Then why does it say "we the people" and not "we the states?"

What do the people in Alaska have in common with the people in California?… Nothing

 

[postman]

The states don't speak. The people that comprise the states do. You'll need to abolish statehood before you can carry out your popular vote wet dream. Otherwise you need 3/4th of them to go along and most don't want California running (or ruining) their states.

Read the constitution, when it came to the president and the senate, that was the only voice listened to. The people were held silent. Fewer than 100 people ever voted for George Washington to be elected our first president.

100 people.

 

[postman]

What do the people in Alaska have in common with the people in California?… Nothing

One man, one vote.

 

[Rustic]

Like I said this is supposed to be a capitalist republic, not a shit eating democracy of mob rule...

Translation, it's a system rigged to keep the will of the people from abolishing slavery. At least not without a civil war.

slavery hasn't been abolished?

Not by being voted out when a majority of Americans decided it had to go. It took the force of arms and a civil war, because the electoral college rules.

The Civil War was more about states rights than anything else… And Lincoln made the situation much worse because he was a dumbass and a control freak.

 

[Auld Phart]

The states don't speak. The people that comprise the states do. You'll need to abolish statehood before you can carry out your popular vote wet dream. Otherwise you need 3/4th of them to go along and most don't want California running (or ruining) their states.

Read the constitution, when it came to the president and the senate, that was the only voice listened to. The people were held silent. Fewer than 100 people ever voted for George Washington to be elected our first president.

100 people.

Electoral College (United States) - Wikipedia

 

[Rustic]

The states don't speak. The people that comprise the states do. You'll need to abolish statehood before you can carry out your popular vote wet dream. Otherwise you need 3/4th of them to go along and most don't want California running (or ruining) their states.

Read the constitution, when it came to the president and the senate, that was the only voice listened to. The people were held silent. Fewer than 100 people ever voted for George Washington to be elected our first president.

100 people.

You do realize that was the start of the nation, and the way people got out and around was by horseback?
You sure do like the taking things out of context… LOL

 

[postman]

I'll believe that when NY, Ca, Mass turn Red

Edward William Brooke III (October 26, 1919 – January 3, 2015) was an American Republican politician. In 1966, he became the first African American popularly elected to the United States Senate.[note 1] He was elected to the Senate from Massachusetts, defeating former Massachusetts governor Democrat Endicott Peabody in a landslide.

A member of the moderate-to-liberal Northeastern wing of the Republican Party, Brooke organized the Senate's "Wednesday Club" of progressive Republicans who met for Wednesday lunches and strategy discussions

 

[postman]

Read the constitution, when it came to the president and the senate, that was the only voice listened to. The people were held silent. Fewer than 100 people ever voted for George Washington to be elected our first president.

100 people.

Electoral College (United States) - Wikipedia

How many people voted for George Washington to be our first president?

 

[Rustic]

What do the people in Alaska have in common with the people in California?… Nothing

One man, one vote.

Under your system that you think should be, a moderately sized city in crazy cali would nullify the whole state of Alaska. Can you be any stupider?

 

[Auld Phart]

I'll believe that when NY, Ca, Mass turn Red

Edward William Brooke III (October 26, 1919 – January 3, 2015) was an American Republican politician. In 1966, he became the first African American popularly elected to the United States Senate.[note 1] He was elected to the Senate from Massachusetts, defeating former Massachusetts governor Democrat Endicott Peabody in a landslide.

A member of the moderate-to-liberal Northeastern wing of the Republican Party, Brooke organized the Senate's "Wednesday Club" of progressive Republicans who met for Wednesday lunches and strategy discussions

and what election year did the state of Massachusettes electors, or the majority of the sate, vote Republican?

 

[postman]

You do realize that was the start of the nation, and the way people got out around was horseback?
You sure do like the taking things out of context… LOL

That's the rules they wrote. That's the way they intended the country to select it's leaders. The states, not the people would chose most of the government. The people would chose 'the peoples' house of representatives.

That's it.

 

[Auld Phart]

Read the constitution, when it came to the president and the senate, that was the only voice listened to. The people were held silent. Fewer than 100 people ever voted for George Washington to be elected our first president.

100 people.

Electoral College (United States) - Wikipedia

How many people voted for George Washington to be our first president?

what does that matter?

 

[Iceweasel]

The states don't speak. The people that comprise the states do. You'll need to abolish statehood before you can carry out your popular vote wet dream. Otherwise you need 3/4th of them to go along and most don't want California running (or ruining) their states.

Read the constitution, when it came to the president and the senate, that was the only voice listened to. The people were held silent. Fewer than 100 people ever voted for George Washington to be elected our first president.

100 people.

That's your defense for the popular vote?

 

[Iceweasel]

You do realize that was the start of the nation, and the way people got out around was horseback?
You sure do like the taking things out of context… LOL

That's the rules they wrote. That's the way they intended the country to select it's leaders. The states, not the people would chose most of the government. The people would chose 'the peoples' house of representatives.

That's it.

Makes no sense. You just said 100 voted for ole W. We didn't have 50 states then.

 

[postman]

Under your system that you think should be, a moderately sized city in crazy cali would nullify the whole state of Alaska. Can you be any stupider?

Why should a state with 50,000 people, have the same number of votes as a state with 750,000 people?

 

[postman]

and what election year did the state of Massachusettes electors, or the majority of the sate, vote Republican?

Romney