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The slow ethnic cleansing of Palestine.

Palestine is Israel. Palestine is a fake English name the British called Israel. Palestine ceased to exist with Israeli statehood in 1948.

Israel ceased to exist thousands of years ago and was recreated. It's as fake as Palestine if you stop and consider it.
You are discounting the meaning of Israel in Judaism and for Jews, and that Jews maintained a presence in the holy land throughout the millennia.

So did Palestinians and Arabs. You forget genetic studies.
 
Israel ceased to exist thousands of years ago and was recreated. It's as fake as Palestine if you stop and consider it.
You are discounting the meaning of Israel in Judaism and for Jews, and that Jews maintained a presence in the holy land throughout the millennia.

So did Palestinians and Arabs. You forget genetic studies.
I'm talking about the relevance of Jerusalem and Israel to Jews and Judaism for thousands of years. It is the equivalent of what Mecca is to Muslims, and the Vatican is to Christians, and actually more.

When a Jew gets married, he swears never to forget Jerusalem and the Laws of Moses, when a Jew prays, it is facing facing Jerusalem, when a Jew dies, he / she is buried facing Jerusalem. Many Jewish celebrations and traditions, involve the Jewish love for their ancient homeland Israel ie Passover "next year in Jerusalem". The word Jerusalem is mentioned 900 times in the OT and Israel probably even more. Not to mention all the stories and prophets which involve Israel in the OT, for example King David, Solomon, and yes, EVEN JESUS.
 
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roudy

You are discounting the meaning of Israel in Judaism and for Jews, and that Jews maintained a presence in the holy land throughout the millennia.

coyote
So did Palestinians and Arabs. You forget genetic studies.

wrong again coyote----you are doing a SAIGON---you are confusing
population genetics with NATIONHOOD AND CULTURE


genetic studies do not reveal culture and religion and NATIONHOOD---
they simply reveal who screwed who and can be used to trace migrations
and populations

"arabs" are people whose native tongue is arabic ---which was the
language of ARABIA EXCLUSIVELY until ---arabs began leaving---on
a rampage of invasion, conquest, pillage, enslavement and rape ---
in other lands-------the fact that lots of people were raped do
not make their remote ancestors "ARABS"---just because their
progency carry the genetic material of the rapist.

Jews were in palestine AS JEWS--- arabs were not there at all until
very recently. Arabic did not develope in "palestine" or israel/judea--
or Lebanon or Syria or "jordan" or Egypt---nor did islam
it is all new and a matter of invasion and conquest and imposition---
recently ----within about the past 1200 years

DNA mixup HAPPENS whenever people come into CONTACT -----it
is like cross pollination (which is also DNA MIXUP) ----and happens
by a very similar ----route ------ever see how excited a grain of pollen
becomes when it detects its mate?----it wiggles about like a
spermatozoan
 
roudy

You are discounting the meaning of Israel in Judaism and for Jews, and that Jews maintained a presence in the holy land throughout the millennia.

coyote
So did Palestinians and Arabs. You forget genetic studies.

wrong again coyote----you are doing a SAIGON---you are confusing
population genetics with NATIONHOOD AND CULTURE

Population genetics put lie to the often repeated claim that the Palestinians are somehow "interlopers" who have no right to be there.

Culturally - they are no different than Middle Eastern Jews that they lived side by side with for centuries. Palestinians are Jews, Christians, Druze etc. - they are all the same people when you exclude the immigrants that came over from other parts of the world.

genetic studies do not reveal culture and religion and NATIONHOOD---
they simply reveal who screwed who and can be used to trace migrations
and populations

Genetic studies reveal the truth of a people's heritage - why is that a "screw up"? By ignoring it, you are also ignoring the reality of who is and is not a Jew - an identification based on genetics primarily and conversion, rarely.

"arabs" are people whose native tongue is arabic ---which was the
language of ARABIA EXCLUSIVELY until ---arabs began leaving---on
a rampage of invasion, conquest, pillage, enslavement and rape ---
in other lands-------the fact that lots of people were raped do
not make their remote ancestors "ARABS"---just because their
progency carry the genetic material of the rapist.

Jews were in palestine AS JEWS--- arabs were not there at all until
very recently. Arabic did not develope in "palestine" or israel/judea--
or Lebanon or Syria or "jordan" or Egypt---nor did islam
it is all new and a matter of invasion and conquest and imposition---
recently ----within about the past 1200 years

Genetic studies show that Palestinian peoples are a mix of lineages that include "Jews" and they originate from the same peoples. There is NO difference other than that made by more recent immigration. It is what it is....a muttly human mess....


DNA mixup HAPPENS whenever people come into CONTACT -----it
is like cross pollination (which is also DNA MIXUP) ----and happens
by a very similar ----route ------ever see how excited a grain of pollen
becomes when it detects its mate?----it wiggles about like a
spermatozoan

You're talking about a mix up of Biblical proportions. I don't buy it - excitable sperms or not. :lol:
 
roudy

You are discounting the meaning of Israel in Judaism and for Jews, and that Jews maintained a presence in the holy land throughout the millennia.

coyote
So did Palestinians and Arabs. You forget genetic studies.

wrong again coyote----you are doing a SAIGON---you are confusing
population genetics with NATIONHOOD AND CULTURE

Population genetics put lie to the often repeated claim that the Palestinians are somehow "interlopers" who have no right to be there.

Culturally - they are no different than Middle Eastern Jews that they lived side by side with for centuries. Palestinians are Jews, Christians, Druze etc. - they are all the same people when you exclude the immigrants that came over from other parts of the world.

genetic studies do not reveal culture and religion and NATIONHOOD---
they simply reveal who screwed who and can be used to trace migrations
and populations

Genetic studies reveal the truth of a people's heritage - why is that a "screw up"? By ignoring it, you are also ignoring the reality of who is and is not a Jew - an identification based on genetics primarily and conversion, rarely.

"arabs" are people whose native tongue is arabic ---which was the
language of ARABIA EXCLUSIVELY until ---arabs began leaving---on
a rampage of invasion, conquest, pillage, enslavement and rape ---
in other lands-------the fact that lots of people were raped do
not make their remote ancestors "ARABS"---just because their
progency carry the genetic material of the rapist.

Jews were in palestine AS JEWS--- arabs were not there at all until
very recently. Arabic did not develope in "palestine" or israel/judea--
or Lebanon or Syria or "jordan" or Egypt---nor did islam
it is all new and a matter of invasion and conquest and imposition---
recently ----within about the past 1200 years

Genetic studies show that Palestinian peoples are a mix of lineages that include "Jews" and they originate from the same peoples. There is NO difference other than that made by more recent immigration. It is what it is....a muttly human mess....


DNA mixup HAPPENS whenever people come into CONTACT -----it
is like cross pollination (which is also DNA MIXUP) ----and happens
by a very similar ----route ------ever see how excited a grain of pollen
becomes when it detects its mate?----it wiggles about like a
spermatozoan

You're talking about a mix up of Biblical proportions. I don't buy it - excitable sperms or not. :lol:
Junk science.


Archaeologist and Historian Dr. Eric Cline, Former Fulbright Scholar, Award-Winning Author, Teacher, and Advisor With Degrees in Classical Archaeology, Near Eastern Archaeology, and Ancient History from Dartmouth College, Yale University), and the University of Pennsylvania. Dr. Cline is Chairman of the Department of Classical and Near Eastern Languages and Civilizations, George Washington University; Director of the GWU Capitol Archaeological Institute
The claims that modern Palestinians are descended from the ancient Jebusites are made without any supporting evidence. Historians and archaeologists have generally concluded that most, if not all, modern Palestinians are probably more closely related to the Arabs of Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Jordan and other countries than they are to the ancient Jebusites, Canaanites or Philistines.
Oxford University Press: The Oxford Handbook of the Bronze Age Aegean: Eric H. Cline
 
roudy

You are discounting the meaning of Israel in Judaism and for Jews, and that Jews maintained a presence in the holy land throughout the millennia.

coyote
So did Palestinians and Arabs. You forget genetic studies.

wrong again coyote----you are doing a SAIGON---you are confusing
population genetics with NATIONHOOD AND CULTURE

Population genetics put lie to the often repeated claim that the Palestinians are somehow "interlopers" who have no right to be there.

Culturally - they are no different than Middle Eastern Jews that they lived side by side with for centuries. Palestinians are Jews, Christians, Druze etc. - they are all the same people when you exclude the immigrants that came over from other parts of the world.



Genetic studies reveal the truth of a people's heritage - why is that a "screw up"? By ignoring it, you are also ignoring the reality of who is and is not a Jew - an identification based on genetics primarily and conversion, rarely.



Genetic studies show that Palestinian peoples are a mix of lineages that include "Jews" and they originate from the same peoples. There is NO difference other than that made by more recent immigration. It is what it is....a muttly human mess....




You're talking about a mix up of Biblical proportions. I don't buy it - excitable sperms or not. :lol:
Junk science.


Archaeologist and Historian Dr. Eric Cline, Former Fulbright Scholar, Award-Winning Author, Teacher, and Advisor With Degrees in Classical Archaeology, Near Eastern Archaeology, and Ancient History from Dartmouth College, Yale University), and the University of Pennsylvania. Dr. Cline is Chairman of the Department of Classical and Near Eastern Languages and Civilizations, George Washington University; Director of the GWU Capitol Archaeological Institute
The claims that modern Palestinians are descended from the ancient Jebusites are made without any supporting evidence. Historians and archaeologists have generally concluded that most, if not all, modern Palestinians are probably more closely related to the Arabs of Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Jordan and other countries than they are to the ancient Jebusites, Canaanites or Philistines.
Oxford University Press: The Oxford Handbook of the Bronze Age Aegean: Eric H. Cline

Junk Archaeology

It's kind of a choice - what do you choose to believe?

Point is - which ever way you look at it - all of those people are interrelated and have been for centuries. Trying to use ancient ties as a means of determining rights is nuts.
 
Population genetics put lie to the often repeated claim that the Palestinians are somehow "interlopers" who have no right to be there.

Culturally - they are no different than Middle Eastern Jews that they lived side by side with for centuries. Palestinians are Jews, Christians, Druze etc. - they are all the same people when you exclude the immigrants that came over from other parts of the world.



Genetic studies reveal the truth of a people's heritage - why is that a "screw up"? By ignoring it, you are also ignoring the reality of who is and is not a Jew - an identification based on genetics primarily and conversion, rarely.



Genetic studies show that Palestinian peoples are a mix of lineages that include "Jews" and they originate from the same peoples. There is NO difference other than that made by more recent immigration. It is what it is....a muttly human mess....




You're talking about a mix up of Biblical proportions. I don't buy it - excitable sperms or not. :lol:
Junk science.


Archaeologist and Historian Dr. Eric Cline, Former Fulbright Scholar, Award-Winning Author, Teacher, and Advisor With Degrees in Classical Archaeology, Near Eastern Archaeology, and Ancient History from Dartmouth College, Yale University), and the University of Pennsylvania. Dr. Cline is Chairman of the Department of Classical and Near Eastern Languages and Civilizations, George Washington University; Director of the GWU Capitol Archaeological Institute
The claims that modern Palestinians are descended from the ancient Jebusites are made without any supporting evidence. Historians and archaeologists have generally concluded that most, if not all, modern Palestinians are probably more closely related to the Arabs of Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Jordan and other countries than they are to the ancient Jebusites, Canaanites or Philistines.
Oxford University Press: The Oxford Handbook of the Bronze Age Aegean: Eric H. Cline

Junk Archaeology

It's kind of a choice - what do you choose to believe?

Point is - which ever way you look at it - all of those people are interrelated and have been for centuries. Trying to use ancient ties as a means of determining rights is nuts.

You lost the debate.

Dr. Eric H. Cline, a former Fulbright scholar, is an award-winning author, teacher, and advisor with degrees in Classical Archaeology, Near Eastern Archaeology, and Ancient History from Dartmouth College (1982), Yale University (1984), and the University of Pennsylvania (1991) respectively. He currently serves as Chair of the department, with a joint appointment in the Anthropology department and additional courtesy appointments in the History department and the Judaic Studies Program. He is also the advisor for the undergraduate majors in Archaeology and, for his efforts on their behalf, was awarded the GWU 2006 “Award for Excellence in Undergraduate Departmental Advising.”

Prior to his arrival at The George Washington University in September 2000, Dr. Cline taught at Stanford, Xavier, the University of Cincinnati, and CSU Fresno. Nominated several times for teaching awards, he received the “Morton Bender Award for Excellence in Undergraduate Teaching” at The George Washington University in 2004 and the Archaeological Institute of America’s National “Excellence in Undergraduate Teaching” Award for 2005. He currently teaches a wide variety of courses, including History of Ancient Greece, History of Rome, History of Egypt and the Ancient Near East, History of Ancient Israel, Introduction to Archaeology, Archaeology of Israel and Neighboring Lands, Art and Archaeology of the Aegean Bronze Age, the Rise of Old World Cities and States, Seven Wonders of the Ancient World, and various smaller Honors and Freshmen Seminars on topics such as History and Homer, Troy and the Trojan War, the Dead Sea Scrolls, and Archaeology, Politics, and Nationalism.

Dr. Cline’s primary fields of study are the military history of the Mediterranean world from antiquity to present and the international connections between Greece, Egypt, and the Near East during the Late Bronze Age (1700-1100 BCE). He is an experienced field archaeologist, with 28 seasons of excavation and survey to his credit since 1980. He has worked in Israel, Egypt, Jordan, Cyprus, Greece, Crete, and the United States, including eight seasons at the site of Megiddo (biblical Armageddon) in Israel, where he is currently the Associate Director (USA). He is also Co-Director of the new series of archaeological excavations at the site of Tel Kabri, also located in Israel.

A prolific researcher and author with ten books and nearly 100 articles to his credit, Dr. Cline is perhaps best known for his book, The Battles of Armageddon: Megiddo and the Jezreel Valley from the Bronze Age to the Nuclear Age (Ann Arbor 2000; paperback 2002), which received the 2001 Biblical Archaeology Society (BAS) Publication Award for “Best Popular Book on Archaeology,” was a Main Selection of the Natural Science Book Club, sold out its first printing in less than four months, and has now been translated and published into Croatian (2005). The subsequent book, entitled Jerusalem Besieged: From Ancient Canaan to Modern Israel, was published by the University of Michigan Press in October 2004 (paperback 2005). It was a Main Selection of the Discovery Channel Book Club in November 2004, was featured as a USA Today 'Books for Your Brain' Selection in December 2004, and was selected by the AAUP for Public and Secondary School Libraries in June 2005. His next book, entitled From Eden to Exile: Unraveling Mysteries of the Bible, was published by the National Geographic Society in June 2007, selling out its first print run even before the official release date. It was subsequently released in paperback in June 2008 and received the 2009 Biblical Archaeology Society (BAS) Publication Award for “Best Popular Book on Archaeology.” His most recent books are Biblical Archaeology: A Very Short Introduction, published by Oxford University Press in October 2009, and an edited volume, entitled The Oxford Handbook of the Bronze Age Aegean, published by Oxford University Press in May 2010.

He is also the author of Sailing the Wine-Dark Sea: International Trade and the Late Bronze Age Aegean (Oxford 1994, republished 2009) and the co-editor of Amenhotep III: Perspectives on his Reign (Ann Arbor 1998; paperback 2001); The Aegean and the Orient in the Second Millennium BC (Liège 1998); and Thutmose III: A New Biography (Ann Arbor 2006), and is the co-author (with Jill Rubalcaba) of a book for young adults entitled The Ancient Egyptian World, published by Oxford University Press (New York 2005). He is currently writing and/or editing several additional books, including Ramesses III: The Life and Times of Egypt's Last Hero (University of Michigan Press). In addition, he has recorded three courses on CD-ROM and cassette for Modern Scholar/Recorded Books: A History of Ancient Israel: From the Patriarchs Through the Romans (March 2007), A History of Ancient Greece: From the Bronze Age through the Hellenistic Age (March 2007), and Archaeology and the Iliad: The Trojan War in Homer and History (January 2006).

Dr. Cline has presented more than 200 scholarly and public lectures and presentations on his work over the past decade, including at the Smithsonian Institution in Washington, DC, the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York, and the Skirball Museum in Los Angeles. His research has been featured in the Washington Post, the New York Times, US News & World Report, USA Today, National Geographic News, CNN, the London Daily Telegraph, the London Mirror, the Brisbane Courier-Mail, the Cincinnati Enquirer, the Cincinnati Post, and the Associated Press, with all of those articles subsequently reproduced in numerous other periodicals within the United States and abroad. His books have been reviewed in the Times Literary Supplement, the Times Higher Education Supplement, the Jerusalem Post, the Cincinnati Enquirer, the History News Network, Jewish Book World, and many professional journals, while his publications overall have been cited over 2,100 times in more than 400 scholarly books and articles since 1987.

Dr. Cline has been interviewed by syndicated national and international television and radio hosts including Robin Roberts and George Stephanopoulos on ABC's "Good Morning America," Bill Hemmer and Martha MacCallum on Fox New Channel's "America's Newsroom," Fergus Nicoll on the BBC World Service/The World Today, Kojo Nnamdi on NPR’s “Public Interest” show, Michael Dresser on “The Michael Dresser” show, and Richard Sheehe on WRGW. His documentary television appearances to date include featured roles as an expert in Joshua and the Walls of Jericho (Discovery Channel, 2003), Revelation: The End of the World? (Discovery Channel, 2004), The Truth of Troy (BBC2, 2004), Beyond the Movie: Conquering Troy (National Geographic Channel, 2004), Secrets of the Aegean Apocalypse/Mystery of the Sea Peoples (History Channel, 2004), Countdown to Armageddon (History Channel, 2004), Is It Real: Atlantis (National Geographic Channel, 2006), Jerusalem: Center of the World (WETA/PBS, 2009), and Biblical Plagues (National Geographic Channel, 2010). He has also both appeared in, and served as a consultant for, numerous shows in the National Geographic Channel’s “Science of the Bible” series, including Exodus Revealed, Lost Cities, Ark of the Covenant, Secrets of Revelation, The Search for Noah’s Ark, Lost Kings of the Bible (David and Solomon), and The Dead Sea Scrolls (National Geographic Channel, March 2006 – April 2007).

In addition to his other responsibilities, Dr. Cline serves the American Schools of Oriental Research (ASOR) as an elected member of the Board of Trustees, and has previously served as Vice-President and member of the Executive Committee, the Nominating Committee, and the Committee on Archaeology Policy; Chair of the Annual Meetings and Program Committee (CAMP), a member of the Personnel Committee and the Program Committee, and an ex-officio member of the Executive, Program, Outreach, Lectures, Honors/Awards, Regional Societies, Implementation and Strategic Planning, Development, and Unprovenanced Texts Committees. He has also served as an elected Society Trustee of the Archaeological Institute of America (AIA) and currently serves on the Excellence in Undergraduate Teaching Award Selection Committee for the AIA.
http://home.gwu.edu/~ehcline/
 
Population genetics put lie to the often repeated claim that the Palestinians are somehow "interlopers" who have no right to be there.

Culturally - they are no different than Middle Eastern Jews that they lived side by side with for centuries. Palestinians are Jews, Christians, Druze etc. - they are all the same people when you exclude the immigrants that came over from other parts of the world.



Genetic studies reveal the truth of a people's heritage - why is that a "screw up"? By ignoring it, you are also ignoring the reality of who is and is not a Jew - an identification based on genetics primarily and conversion, rarely.



Genetic studies show that Palestinian peoples are a mix of lineages that include "Jews" and they originate from the same peoples. There is NO difference other than that made by more recent immigration. It is what it is....a muttly human mess....




You're talking about a mix up of Biblical proportions. I don't buy it - excitable sperms or not. :lol:
Junk science.


Archaeologist and Historian Dr. Eric Cline, Former Fulbright Scholar, Award-Winning Author, Teacher, and Advisor With Degrees in Classical Archaeology, Near Eastern Archaeology, and Ancient History from Dartmouth College, Yale University), and the University of Pennsylvania. Dr. Cline is Chairman of the Department of Classical and Near Eastern Languages and Civilizations, George Washington University; Director of the GWU Capitol Archaeological Institute
The claims that modern Palestinians are descended from the ancient Jebusites are made without any supporting evidence. Historians and archaeologists have generally concluded that most, if not all, modern Palestinians are probably more closely related to the Arabs of Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Jordan and other countries than they are to the ancient Jebusites, Canaanites or Philistines.
Oxford University Press: The Oxford Handbook of the Bronze Age Aegean: Eric H. Cline

Junk Archaeology

It's kind of a choice - what do you choose to believe?

Point is - which ever way you look at it - all of those people are interrelated and have been for centuries. Trying to use ancient ties as a means of determining rights is nuts.
All people's are interrelated. But Palestinians are more than anything, Arabs just like their neighboring Arabs the Jordanians, Egyptians, Syrians, Saudi Arabians etc. in every way possible, DNA, Blood, culture, etc.

To say that the Arab Palestinian is tied to the land of Israel by DNA is akin to saying the entire Arab / Muslim world has rights to the land of Israel.
 
Junk science.


Archaeologist and Historian Dr. Eric Cline, Former Fulbright Scholar, Award-Winning Author, Teacher, and Advisor With Degrees in Classical Archaeology, Near Eastern Archaeology, and Ancient History from Dartmouth College, Yale University), and the University of Pennsylvania. Dr. Cline is Chairman of the Department of Classical and Near Eastern Languages and Civilizations, George Washington University; Director of the GWU Capitol Archaeological Institute

Junk Archaeology

It's kind of a choice - what do you choose to believe?

Point is - which ever way you look at it - all of those people are interrelated and have been for centuries. Trying to use ancient ties as a means of determining rights is nuts.

You lost the debate.

Dr. Eric H. Cline, a former Fulbright scholar, is an award-winning author, teacher, and advisor with degrees in Classical Archaeology, Near Eastern Archaeology, and Ancient History from Dartmouth College (1982), Yale University (1984), and the University of Pennsylvania (1991) respectively. He currently serves as Chair of the department, with a joint appointment in the Anthropology department and additional courtesy appointments in the History department and the Judaic Studies Program. He is also the advisor for the undergraduate majors in Archaeology and, for his efforts on their behalf, was awarded the GWU 2006 “Award for Excellence in Undergraduate Departmental Advising.”

Prior to his arrival at The George Washington University in September 2000, Dr. Cline taught at Stanford, Xavier, the University of Cincinnati, and CSU Fresno. Nominated several times for teaching awards, he received the “Morton Bender Award for Excellence in Undergraduate Teaching” at The George Washington University in 2004 and the Archaeological Institute of America’s National “Excellence in Undergraduate Teaching” Award for 2005. He currently teaches a wide variety of courses, including History of Ancient Greece, History of Rome, History of Egypt and the Ancient Near East, History of Ancient Israel, Introduction to Archaeology, Archaeology of Israel and Neighboring Lands, Art and Archaeology of the Aegean Bronze Age, the Rise of Old World Cities and States, Seven Wonders of the Ancient World, and various smaller Honors and Freshmen Seminars on topics such as History and Homer, Troy and the Trojan War, the Dead Sea Scrolls, and Archaeology, Politics, and Nationalism.

Dr. Cline’s primary fields of study are the military history of the Mediterranean world from antiquity to present and the international connections between Greece, Egypt, and the Near East during the Late Bronze Age (1700-1100 BCE). He is an experienced field archaeologist, with 28 seasons of excavation and survey to his credit since 1980. He has worked in Israel, Egypt, Jordan, Cyprus, Greece, Crete, and the United States, including eight seasons at the site of Megiddo (biblical Armageddon) in Israel, where he is currently the Associate Director (USA). He is also Co-Director of the new series of archaeological excavations at the site of Tel Kabri, also located in Israel.

A prolific researcher and author with ten books and nearly 100 articles to his credit, Dr. Cline is perhaps best known for his book, The Battles of Armageddon: Megiddo and the Jezreel Valley from the Bronze Age to the Nuclear Age (Ann Arbor 2000; paperback 2002), which received the 2001 Biblical Archaeology Society (BAS) Publication Award for “Best Popular Book on Archaeology,” was a Main Selection of the Natural Science Book Club, sold out its first printing in less than four months, and has now been translated and published into Croatian (2005). The subsequent book, entitled Jerusalem Besieged: From Ancient Canaan to Modern Israel, was published by the University of Michigan Press in October 2004 (paperback 2005). It was a Main Selection of the Discovery Channel Book Club in November 2004, was featured as a USA Today 'Books for Your Brain' Selection in December 2004, and was selected by the AAUP for Public and Secondary School Libraries in June 2005. His next book, entitled From Eden to Exile: Unraveling Mysteries of the Bible, was published by the National Geographic Society in June 2007, selling out its first print run even before the official release date. It was subsequently released in paperback in June 2008 and received the 2009 Biblical Archaeology Society (BAS) Publication Award for “Best Popular Book on Archaeology.” His most recent books are Biblical Archaeology: A Very Short Introduction, published by Oxford University Press in October 2009, and an edited volume, entitled The Oxford Handbook of the Bronze Age Aegean, published by Oxford University Press in May 2010.

He is also the author of Sailing the Wine-Dark Sea: International Trade and the Late Bronze Age Aegean (Oxford 1994, republished 2009) and the co-editor of Amenhotep III: Perspectives on his Reign (Ann Arbor 1998; paperback 2001); The Aegean and the Orient in the Second Millennium BC (Liège 1998); and Thutmose III: A New Biography (Ann Arbor 2006), and is the co-author (with Jill Rubalcaba) of a book for young adults entitled The Ancient Egyptian World, published by Oxford University Press (New York 2005). He is currently writing and/or editing several additional books, including Ramesses III: The Life and Times of Egypt's Last Hero (University of Michigan Press). In addition, he has recorded three courses on CD-ROM and cassette for Modern Scholar/Recorded Books: A History of Ancient Israel: From the Patriarchs Through the Romans (March 2007), A History of Ancient Greece: From the Bronze Age through the Hellenistic Age (March 2007), and Archaeology and the Iliad: The Trojan War in Homer and History (January 2006).

Dr. Cline has presented more than 200 scholarly and public lectures and presentations on his work over the past decade, including at the Smithsonian Institution in Washington, DC, the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York, and the Skirball Museum in Los Angeles. His research has been featured in the Washington Post, the New York Times, US News & World Report, USA Today, National Geographic News, CNN, the London Daily Telegraph, the London Mirror, the Brisbane Courier-Mail, the Cincinnati Enquirer, the Cincinnati Post, and the Associated Press, with all of those articles subsequently reproduced in numerous other periodicals within the United States and abroad. His books have been reviewed in the Times Literary Supplement, the Times Higher Education Supplement, the Jerusalem Post, the Cincinnati Enquirer, the History News Network, Jewish Book World, and many professional journals, while his publications overall have been cited over 2,100 times in more than 400 scholarly books and articles since 1987.

Dr. Cline has been interviewed by syndicated national and international television and radio hosts including Robin Roberts and George Stephanopoulos on ABC's "Good Morning America," Bill Hemmer and Martha MacCallum on Fox New Channel's "America's Newsroom," Fergus Nicoll on the BBC World Service/The World Today, Kojo Nnamdi on NPR’s “Public Interest” show, Michael Dresser on “The Michael Dresser” show, and Richard Sheehe on WRGW. His documentary television appearances to date include featured roles as an expert in Joshua and the Walls of Jericho (Discovery Channel, 2003), Revelation: The End of the World? (Discovery Channel, 2004), The Truth of Troy (BBC2, 2004), Beyond the Movie: Conquering Troy (National Geographic Channel, 2004), Secrets of the Aegean Apocalypse/Mystery of the Sea Peoples (History Channel, 2004), Countdown to Armageddon (History Channel, 2004), Is It Real: Atlantis (National Geographic Channel, 2006), Jerusalem: Center of the World (WETA/PBS, 2009), and Biblical Plagues (National Geographic Channel, 2010). He has also both appeared in, and served as a consultant for, numerous shows in the National Geographic Channel’s “Science of the Bible” series, including Exodus Revealed, Lost Cities, Ark of the Covenant, Secrets of Revelation, The Search for Noah’s Ark, Lost Kings of the Bible (David and Solomon), and The Dead Sea Scrolls (National Geographic Channel, March 2006 – April 2007).

In addition to his other responsibilities, Dr. Cline serves the American Schools of Oriental Research (ASOR) as an elected member of the Board of Trustees, and has previously served as Vice-President and member of the Executive Committee, the Nominating Committee, and the Committee on Archaeology Policy; Chair of the Annual Meetings and Program Committee (CAMP), a member of the Personnel Committee and the Program Committee, and an ex-officio member of the Executive, Program, Outreach, Lectures, Honors/Awards, Regional Societies, Implementation and Strategic Planning, Development, and Unprovenanced Texts Committees. He has also served as an elected Society Trustee of the Archaeological Institute of America (AIA) and currently serves on the Excellence in Undergraduate Teaching Award Selection Committee for the AIA.
http://home.gwu.edu/~ehcline/


Not hardly (I was speaking sarcastically) of "junk archaeology" when you blithely labeled genetics as "junk science".

Jewish and Middle Eastern non-Jewish populations share a common pool of Y-chromosome biallelic haplotypes


The Y Chromosome Pool of Jews as Part of the Genetic Landscape of the Middle East

From: Epiphenom: The shared genetic heritage of Jews and Palestinians (referencing the above two studies)

The good news is that the genetics of Arabs and Jews have been pretty extensively researched. The classic study dates to 2000, from a team lead by Michael Hammer of University of Arizona. They looked at Y-chromosome haplotypes - this is the genetic material passed from father to son down the generations.

What they revealed was that Arabs and Jews are essentially a single population, and that Palestinians are slap bang in the middle of the different Jewish populations (as shown in this figure).

Another team, lead by Almut Nebel at the Hebrew University, Jerusalem, took a closer look in 2001. They found that Jewish lineages essentially bracket Muslim Kurds, but they were also very closely related to Palestinians. In fact, what their analysis suggested was that Palestinians were identical to Jews, but with a small mix of Arab genes - what you would expect if they were originally from the same stock, but that Palestinians had mixed a little with Arab immigrants. They conclude:

We propose that the Y chromosomes in Palestinian Arabs and Bedouin represent, to a large extent, early lineages derived from the Neolithic inhabitants of the area and additional lineages from more-recent population movements. The early lineages are part of the common chromosome pool shared with Jews (Nebel et al. 2000). According to our working model, the more-recent migrations were mostly from the Arabian Peninsula...
 
Junk science.


Archaeologist and Historian Dr. Eric Cline, Former Fulbright Scholar, Award-Winning Author, Teacher, and Advisor With Degrees in Classical Archaeology, Near Eastern Archaeology, and Ancient History from Dartmouth College, Yale University), and the University of Pennsylvania. Dr. Cline is Chairman of the Department of Classical and Near Eastern Languages and Civilizations, George Washington University; Director of the GWU Capitol Archaeological Institute

Junk Archaeology

It's kind of a choice - what do you choose to believe?

Point is - which ever way you look at it - all of those people are interrelated and have been for centuries. Trying to use ancient ties as a means of determining rights is nuts.
All people's are interrelated. But Palestinians are more than anything, Arabs just like their neighboring Arabs the Jordanians, Egyptians, Syrians, Saudi Arabians etc. in every way possible, DNA, Blood, culture, etc.

To say that the Arab Palestinian is tied to the land of Israel by DNA is akin to saying the entire Arab / Muslim world has rights to the land of Israel.

Even Arabs concede palestinian history is the product of a fertile imaginary.

Rashid Khalidi, Professor of Modern Arab Studies, Columbia University, Director of Columbia University's Middle East Institute and advisor to various Arab groups...
There is a relatively recent tradition which argues that Palestinian nationalism has deep historical roots. As with other national movements, extreme advocates of this view anachronistically read back into the history of Palestine over the past few centuries a nationalist consciousness and identity that are in fact relatively modern. Among the manifestations of this outlook are a predilection for seeing in peoples such as the Canaanites, Jebusites and Philistines the lineal ancestors of the modern Palestinians.
Amazon.com: Palestinian Identity (9780231105156): Rashid Khalidi: Books
 

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