The Spender-in-Chief

[RealDave]

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Reagan's tax cuts brought more into the treasury. Heck BMW was brought to south Carolina in the 90's people complained about them not paying property taxes, but that company has brought more to south Carolina could ever gotten any other way.

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Then why did he run up such massive deficits?

The democrats ran both houses back then, ask them.

For two of his six years. Deficits were caused by the great Bush recession. Obama inherited a trillion plus deficit.

Na, You’re looking at too much fuzzy math. Dip shit

Ya, you're an ass in denial that your party nearly killed America under Bush & here you are trying again under Trump.

 

[RealDave]

Silence from the Tea Party who stormed Washington when Obama tried to spend money but are strangely silent when Trump borrows $1.5 trillion to give to the wealthy

Tax cuts borrow? Lol, you're delusional. Tell me, do you count your money before you get it?

Absolutely

When they add to the deficit they are borrowing

WTF is the matter with Republicans?
Cut spending FIRST....then adjust your taxes accordingly

So you spend money that you haven't received yet? Tax cuts has brought more money in, because more jobs are created. Quit listening to talking points.

If tax cut have brought in more money......Why has our deficit jumped?

Because our stupid politicians keep spending money, they don't have. Democrats and republicans.

So you admit Trump is stupid. Finally

 

[Rustic]

Why are we increasing Military spending in a time of peace?

We have a larger military than the next eight countries combined.....why do we need to make it bigger?

Because military people spend money better, in better places than most Americans.
But I do think we have to reduce our presence in foreign countries, and while we’re at it cut off all federal aid.

 

[RealDave]

We just spent 1.5 Trillion on tax cuts. Trump wants to spend 1.2 on his new nuclear arms race, & he has called for 1.5 trillion in infrastructure spending.

That is 4.2 billion over say ten years. 420 billion a year new spending without a peep on funding.

We are already racing toward a trillion dollar deficit.

We are not mired in a deep recession (yet). Our economy is going OK. Employment is OK. We do not need such an economic shot in the arm.

LOL...way too funny. "Spender in Chief"...WTF, do all libs have a bad case of dementia.

You are aware that with Repubs controlling the government that the debt still grows right? After years of claiming to be fiscally responsible...

You make much too big of an assumption. How would he be aware of that? None of the sources he gets his information from would ever tell him that.

Yup, everyone should be getting their news from CNN where you get half the stories glossed over with a liberal spin.

CNN, Washington Post NBS, CBS ABC These are all liars, right? Only Fox, Limbaugh, Breitbart tell the truth.

 

[rightwinger]

We just spent 1.5 Trillion on tax cuts. Trump wants to spend 1.2 on his new nuclear arms race, & he has called for 1.5 trillion in infrastructure spending.

That is 4.2 billion over say ten years. 420 billion a year new spending without a peep on funding.

We are already racing toward a trillion dollar deficit.

We are not mired in a deep recession (yet). Our economy is going OK. Employment is OK. We do not need such an economic shot in the arm.

Tax’s are not “cash in hand”, you silly little fucker.
Tax cuts are not the same as spending money, only a fucking fool thinks there is a way to tax into prosperity...

Same impact on the deficit

Na, taxes are always bad for the country and good for the federal government/career politicians/deep state...

Since we sold out to supply side, we have not had a single major government project, we have allowed our infrastructure to crumble, cut funding for education, seen healthcare become affordable only to the rich

But we have taken good care of our wealthy

Urban areas need to take care of their own shit...

What about rural areas?

 

[Rustic]

Reagan's tax cuts brought more into the treasury. Heck BMW was brought to south Carolina in the 90's people complained about them not paying property taxes, but that company has brought more to south Carolina could ever gotten any other way.

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Then why did he run up such massive deficits?

The democrats ran both houses back then, ask them.

For two of his six years. Deficits were caused by the great Bush recession. Obama inherited a trillion plus deficit.

Na, You’re looking at too much fuzzy math. Dip shit

Ya, you're an ass in denial that your party nearly killed America under Bush & here you are trying again under Trump.

There would be no trump if there was no Obama, Karma is a bitch

 

[Rustic]

Tax’s are not “cash in hand”, you silly little fucker.
Tax cuts are not the same as spending money, only a fucking fool thinks there is a way to tax into prosperity...

Same impact on the deficit

Na, taxes are always bad for the country and good for the federal government/career politicians/deep state...

Since we sold out to supply side, we have not had a single major government project, we have allowed our infrastructure to crumble, cut funding for education, seen healthcare become affordable only to the rich

But we have taken good care of our wealthy

Urban areas need to take care of their own shit...

What about rural areas?

We make do with what we have…

 

[RealDave]

Silence from the Tea Party who stormed Washington when Obama tried to spend money but are strangely silent when Trump borrows $1.5 trillion to give to the wealthy

Tax cuts borrow? Lol, you're delusional. Tell me, do you count your money before you get it?

Absolutely

When they add to the deficit they are borrowing

WTF is the matter with Republicans?
Cut spending FIRST....then adjust your taxes accordingly

So you spend money that you haven't received yet? Tax cuts has brought more money in, because more jobs are created. Quit listening to talking points.

Quit being a dumbfuck. Tax cuts to the middle class & below can produce job gains. Unfortunately., not all the cost of the tax cut bill is for these people. All the cuts to the wealthy are not efficient ways to grow jobs. The tax cuts to well off corporations do not grow jobs.

Increasing the demamd for products creates jobs. This is why tax cuts for the middle class & lower work . These people will spend that money. The wealthy already have what they want. The money you assholes gave to them will end up in bonds or the stock market which not only do not create jobs but will take interest rates go up costing all those middle clsass people money.

Companies are taking advantage of a reduced repatriation tax. We are rewarding companies that took jobs overseas & then took advantage of a loop hole to keep it there.

Tax cuts of any kind are good for the people and the country, they are bad for career politicians and the federal government/deep state. Fuck your tax’s... lol

So how does passing out tax cuts to wealthy people help me? They produce little spur to the economy, they are on borrowed money, It will raise interest rates.

AS guess you think we should not have any taxes. Yep the country will run great. What a fucking ass you are.

We need taxes to pay for the spending. But you are a Republican & hence only believe in spending money by giving it to rich people.

 

[RealDave]

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Then why did he run up such massive deficits?

The democrats ran both houses back then, ask them.

For two of his six years. Deficits were caused by the great Bush recession. Obama inherited a trillion plus deficit.

Na, You’re looking at too much fuzzy math. Dip shit

Ya, you're an ass in denial that your party nearly killed America under Bush & here you are trying again under Trump.

There would be no trump if there was no Obama, Karma is a bitch

Yep., blame your stupid vote on Obama. You know, like you fuckheads do with everything.

 

[Rustic]

Tax cuts borrow? Lol, you're delusional. Tell me, do you count your money before you get it?

Absolutely

When they add to the deficit they are borrowing

WTF is the matter with Republicans?
Cut spending FIRST....then adjust your taxes accordingly

So you spend money that you haven't received yet? Tax cuts has brought more money in, because more jobs are created. Quit listening to talking points.

Quit being a dumbfuck. Tax cuts to the middle class & below can produce job gains. Unfortunately., not all the cost of the tax cut bill is for these people. All the cuts to the wealthy are not efficient ways to grow jobs. The tax cuts to well off corporations do not grow jobs.

Increasing the demamd for products creates jobs. This is why tax cuts for the middle class & lower work . These people will spend that money. The wealthy already have what they want. The money you assholes gave to them will end up in bonds or the stock market which not only do not create jobs but will take interest rates go up costing all those middle clsass people money.

Companies are taking advantage of a reduced repatriation tax. We are rewarding companies that took jobs overseas & then took advantage of a loop hole to keep it there.

Tax cuts of any kind are good for the people and the country, they are bad for career politicians and the federal government/deep state. Fuck your tax’s... lol

So how does passing out tax cuts to wealthy people help me? They produce little spur to the economy, they are on borrowed money, It will raise interest rates.

AS guess you think we should not have any taxes. Yep the country will run great. What a fucking ass you are.

We need taxes to pay for the spending. But you are a Republican & hence only believe in spending money by giving it to rich people.

Taxes are not the possession of the federal government, once taxes are gone it’s like they aren’t even there - they never existed so you cannot claim them...

Income tax is unconstitutional...

 

[RealDave]

We just spent 1.5 Trillion on tax cuts. Trump wants to spend 1.2 on his new nuclear arms race, & he has called for 1.5 trillion in infrastructure spending.

That is 4.2 billion over say ten years. 420 billion a year new spending without a peep on funding.

We are already racing toward a trillion dollar deficit.

We are not mired in a deep recession (yet). Our economy is going OK. Employment is OK. We do not need such an economic shot in the arm.

O spent 8 trillion and we got nothing. Your little tooth gnashing sessions fall on deaf ears. Go pound sand.

Oh go fuck yourself you ignorant POS. Lets look at this.

Clinton left office with a balanced budget.

Bush took that balanced budget & turned it into the worst recession in 80 fucking years, a housing collapse, a near financial meltdown, two quagmire wars , an economy shrinking at a rate over 6%, losing 800,000 jobs a month& an deficit heading to a trillion plus.

And you fucking assholes wonder how the debt grew under Obama? Really? Uou are really thst fucking stupid.

We have no economic crisis. The economy was growing, unemployment was coming down & your fat=assed hero Trump put us on a path to a trillion dollar deficit.

Now Captain Bone Spur wants ti spend a trillion pls on rekindling the nuclear arm,s race. Where is the money for it? He wants 1.5 trillion for infrastructure? Where is thye money for it? He just spent 1.5 trillion on giving himself a hige tax cut.

Then the exact same people who ran ion circles screming "OMG OMG the debt the debt" have no problem when your orange buddy jacks up the deficit for no reason.

There was still was debt you silly little fucker, a So called “Balanced budget” means nothing if there still is a debt...
No Country taxed its way to prosperity in the history of the planet... The collective fucked you in the ass and you didn’t even know it… LOL

Another right wing balanced budget denier.

You have to deny it existed otherwise you's have to answer as to why Bush & the Republicans took us from the balanced budget to the worst recession in 80 fucking years.

 

[Rustic]

The democrats ran both houses back then, ask them.

For two of his six years. Deficits were caused by the great Bush recession. Obama inherited a trillion plus deficit.

Na, You’re looking at too much fuzzy math. Dip shit

Ya, you're an ass in denial that your party nearly killed America under Bush & here you are trying again under Trump.

There would be no trump if there was no Obama, Karma is a bitch

Yep., blame your stupid vote on Obama. You know, like you fuckheads do with everything.

I did not vote for Trump, I wrote in a candidate… Elmer Fudd he gets no respect

 

[Rustic]

We just spent 1.5 Trillion on tax cuts. Trump wants to spend 1.2 on his new nuclear arms race, & he has called for 1.5 trillion in infrastructure spending.

That is 4.2 billion over say ten years. 420 billion a year new spending without a peep on funding.

We are already racing toward a trillion dollar deficit.

We are not mired in a deep recession (yet). Our economy is going OK. Employment is OK. We do not need such an economic shot in the arm.

O spent 8 trillion and we got nothing. Your little tooth gnashing sessions fall on deaf ears. Go pound sand.

Oh go fuck yourself you ignorant POS. Lets look at this.

Clinton left office with a balanced budget.

Bush took that balanced budget & turned it into the worst recession in 80 fucking years, a housing collapse, a near financial meltdown, two quagmire wars , an economy shrinking at a rate over 6%, losing 800,000 jobs a month& an deficit heading to a trillion plus.

And you fucking assholes wonder how the debt grew under Obama? Really? Uou are really thst fucking stupid.

We have no economic crisis. The economy was growing, unemployment was coming down & your fat=assed hero Trump put us on a path to a trillion dollar deficit.

Now Captain Bone Spur wants ti spend a trillion pls on rekindling the nuclear arm,s race. Where is the money for it? He wants 1.5 trillion for infrastructure? Where is thye money for it? He just spent 1.5 trillion on giving himself a hige tax cut.

Then the exact same people who ran ion circles screming "OMG OMG the debt the debt" have no problem when your orange buddy jacks up the deficit for no reason.

There was still was debt you silly little fucker, a So called “Balanced budget” means nothing if there still is a debt...
No Country taxed its way to prosperity in the history of the planet... The collective fucked you in the ass and you didn’t even know it… LOL

Another right wing balanced budget denier.

You have to deny it existed otherwise you's have to answer as to why Bush & the Republicans took us from the balanced budget to the worst recession in 80 fucking years.

Debt is debt... No matter if you call it fuzzy math and/or put it in a lockbox.
Debt denial is a socialist disease... lol

 

[RealDave]

Absolutely

When they add to the deficit they are borrowing

WTF is the matter with Republicans?
Cut spending FIRST....then adjust your taxes accordingly

So you spend money that you haven't received yet? Tax cuts has brought more money in, because more jobs are created. Quit listening to talking points.

Quit being a dumbfuck. Tax cuts to the middle class & below can produce job gains. Unfortunately., not all the cost of the tax cut bill is for these people. All the cuts to the wealthy are not efficient ways to grow jobs. The tax cuts to well off corporations do not grow jobs.

Increasing the demamd for products creates jobs. This is why tax cuts for the middle class & lower work . These people will spend that money. The wealthy already have what they want. The money you assholes gave to them will end up in bonds or the stock market which not only do not create jobs but will take interest rates go up costing all those middle clsass people money.

Companies are taking advantage of a reduced repatriation tax. We are rewarding companies that took jobs overseas & then took advantage of a loop hole to keep it there.

Tax cuts of any kind are good for the people and the country, they are bad for career politicians and the federal government/deep state. Fuck your tax’s... lol

So how does passing out tax cuts to wealthy people help me? They produce little spur to the economy, they are on borrowed money, It will raise interest rates.

AS guess you think we should not have any taxes. Yep the country will run great. What a fucking ass you are.

We need taxes to pay for the spending. But you are a Republican & hence only believe in spending money by giving it to rich people.

Taxes are not the possession of the federal government, once taxes are gone it’s like they aren’t even there - they never existed so you cannot claim them...

Income tax is unconstitutional...

Taxes are collected & belong to the government. Once they are spent, then the govertment has the commodity that they spent it on. It pays to the salaries & benefits for its workers, he has the infrastructure, etc.

Lets pretend you actually work for a living, You are saying your pay is not yours & once it is spent, it is like it never existed. So you don't pay rent, mortgage, gasoline, car insurance, food. What you gamble it all at the casino? That's it, you are one of those old people sitting at the slots popping in silver dollars one after the other.

 

[Rustic]

So you spend money that you haven't received yet? Tax cuts has brought more money in, because more jobs are created. Quit listening to talking points.

Quit being a dumbfuck. Tax cuts to the middle class & below can produce job gains. Unfortunately., not all the cost of the tax cut bill is for these people. All the cuts to the wealthy are not efficient ways to grow jobs. The tax cuts to well off corporations do not grow jobs.

Increasing the demamd for products creates jobs. This is why tax cuts for the middle class & lower work . These people will spend that money. The wealthy already have what they want. The money you assholes gave to them will end up in bonds or the stock market which not only do not create jobs but will take interest rates go up costing all those middle clsass people money.

Companies are taking advantage of a reduced repatriation tax. We are rewarding companies that took jobs overseas & then took advantage of a loop hole to keep it there.

Tax cuts of any kind are good for the people and the country, they are bad for career politicians and the federal government/deep state. Fuck your tax’s... lol

So how does passing out tax cuts to wealthy people help me? They produce little spur to the economy, they are on borrowed money, It will raise interest rates.

AS guess you think we should not have any taxes. Yep the country will run great. What a fucking ass you are.

We need taxes to pay for the spending. But you are a Republican & hence only believe in spending money by giving it to rich people.

Taxes are not the possession of the federal government, once taxes are gone it’s like they aren’t even there - they never existed so you cannot claim them...

Income tax is unconstitutional...

Taxes are collected & belong to the government. Once they are spent, then the govertment has the commodity that they spent it on. It pays to the salaries & benefits for its workers, he has the infrastructure, etc.

Lets pretend you actually work for a living, You are saying your pay is not yours & once it is spent, it is like it never existed. So you don't pay rent, mortgage, gasoline, car insurance, food. What you gamble it all at the casino? That's it, you are one of those old people sitting at the slots popping in silver dollars one after the other.

Our federal government has a disease and it’s called socialism, that means they have no accountability and no credibility...
They should have to beg for funds

 

[rightwinger]

Same impact on the deficit

Na, taxes are always bad for the country and good for the federal government/career politicians/deep state...

Since we sold out to supply side, we have not had a single major government project, we have allowed our infrastructure to crumble, cut funding for education, seen healthcare become affordable only to the rich

But we have taken good care of our wealthy

Urban areas need to take care of their own shit...

What about rural areas?

We make do with what we have…

That is a common myth among conservatives

The reason rural areas even have infrastructure is because it is subsidized by urban areas. Without cities, you would still be driving on gravel roads. Cities subsidized the electrification of rural areas. It was not profitable enough for power companies. Cities help pay for rural schools and hospitals

You are not self sufficient
You never have been

 

[RealDave]

Silence from the Tea Party who stormed Washington when Obama tried to spend money but are strangely silent when Trump borrows $1.5 trillion to give to the wealthy

Tax cuts borrow? Lol, you're delusional. Tell me, do you count your money before you get it?

Absolutely

When they add to the deficit they are borrowing

WTF is the matter with Republicans?
Cut spending FIRST....then adjust your taxes accordingly

So you spend money that you haven't received yet? Tax cuts has brought more money in, because more jobs are created. Quit listening to talking points.

Quit being a dumbfuck. Tax cuts to the middle class & below can produce job gains. Unfortunately., not all the cost of the tax cut bill is for these people. All the cuts to the wealthy are not efficient ways to grow jobs. The tax cuts to well off corporations do not grow jobs.

Increasing the demamd for products creates jobs. This is why tax cuts for the middle class & lower work . These people will spend that money. The wealthy already have what they want. The money you assholes gave to them will end up in bonds or the stock market which not only do not create jobs but will take interest rates go up costing all those middle clsass people money.

Companies are taking advantage of a reduced repatriation tax. We are rewarding companies that took jobs overseas & then took advantage of a loop hole to keep it there.

Lol, usually the people below the middle class pay little in taxes, and in certain circumstances they get more back. Also the corporate tax cuts is bringing jobs back. Like I said quit relying on talking points.

Putting money in the hands of those in the lower classes is an economic stimulus. If you don;t klnow that then you might as well quit posting because you are too stupid to post here.

So, what is the corporate tax rate for overseas profits?
"but with tax law changes coming, the new rate will be 21 percent in the U.S. and foreign profits will be taxed at an even lower rate, based on tangible depreciable assets.

For these types of profits, the tax bill allows companies to have tax-free treatment for a portion of their foreign income up to what is considered a reasonable amount of return, and then taxed at the parent's rate on half the remainder."

You pay less taxes on overseas profits. So, Dingleberry, how is that creating jobs here in the US?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Silence from the Tea Party who stormed Washington when Obama tried to spend money but are strangely silent when Trump borrows $1.5 trillion to give to the wealthy

Tax cuts borrow? Lol, you're delusional. Tell me, do you count your money before you get it?

Absolutely

When they add to the deficit they are borrowing

WTF is the matter with Republicans?
Cut spending FIRST....then adjust your taxes accordingly

So you spend money that you haven't received yet? Tax cuts has brought more money in, because more jobs are created. Quit listening to talking points.

Show the stats proving this talking point


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Reagan's tax cuts brought more into the treasury. Heck BMW was brought to south Carolina in the 90's people complained about them not paying property taxes, but that company has brought more to south Carolina could ever gotten any other way.

Actual numbers please and not just your opinion.

Compare and contrast what the revenue would have been without the tax cuts and with the tax cuts.

Should be easy for someone not just parroting tanking points


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[leftwinger]

We just spent 1.5 Trillion on tax cuts. Trump wants to spend 1.2 on his new nuclear arms race, & he has called for 1.5 trillion in infrastructure spending.

That is 4.2 billion over say ten years. 420 billion a year new spending without a peep on funding.

We are already racing toward a trillion dollar deficit.

We are not mired in a deep recession (yet). Our economy is going OK. Employment is OK. We do not need such an economic shot in the arm.

Tax’s are not “cash in hand”, you silly little fucker.
Tax cuts are not the same as spending money, only a fucking fool thinks there is a way to tax into prosperity...

Same impact on the deficit

Na, taxes are always bad for the country and good for the federal government/career politicians/deep state...

So you thionk the military funds itself?

You have to love these Trumpettes., They want to spend on the military but not pay for it.

Military, police and fire are an necessary... The rest of the federal government not so much

Agreed: close down every useless GOVT dept. Last year. cut spending across the rest. Dept of ED, commerce, energy, HUD, ambassadors, homelandGWBsecurity.....on and on.

If you cut too much, after under control, bring it back slowly.

Oh yeah.....hold a massive garage sale of Fed holdings. Pay to debt.

 

[RealDave]

Republicans are INCREASING our spending on the military, infrastructure, a useless wall and a silly parade after cutting revenue by $1.5 trillion

Obama got us into deeper debt with his stimulus, in which he did nothing but get us deeper in debt. Yet you were silent about that. If fixing our Infrastructure gets us in a little more debt, then so be it. But get back to me when Trump waste 10 trillion. Then you will have the credibility to complain.

Funny how these people can abandon any semblance of fiscal responsibility once the GOP is in power by coming up with a tall tale about how Obama did it too!

So what's your solution? We already wasted billions on shovel ready jobs under Obama that weren't so shovel ready. That you supported. Let's see what Trump does to our infrastructure, if he does the same as Obama I'll call him out on it.

Trump's budget busting comes in the form of 160 billion in military spending.

Crumbs compared to what Obama wasted. This is liberal logic on money. View attachment 175579

New payroll tax credit of $400 per worker and $800 per couple in 2009 and 2010. Phaseout begins at $75,000 for individuals and $150,000 for joint filers

$400 to $800

This is why you are a lying POS.