The thinking surrounding the Hamas/Israel conflict is far too binary.

[Harry Dresden]

"The thinking surrounding the Hamas/Israel conflict is far too binary."

…far too binary, far too polarized, far too oversimplified, and far too partisan.

far too partisan?......you know all about that dont you jones?....

 

[SassyIrishLass]

"The thinking surrounding the Hamas/Israel conflict is far too binary."

…far too binary, far too polarized, far too oversimplified, and far too partisan.

Isarel is killing terrorists that attacked them. Real binary now

 

[gipper]

you mean the people who were dancing in the street after 9/11?.....i support Israel defending themselves....and what hamas did was more than just a terrorist attack.....hamas did that not caring about how many of their people were going to die....and they knew dam well this was going to happen...fuck hamas....

Lol. Who was dancing in the streets?
The Dancing Israelis: FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks - LewRockwell

 

[EvilCat Breath]

They "elected" Hamas the same way that Iraq "elected" Saddam numerous times.

The sane way Biden was elected here but you call that a free and fair election.

 

[Oddball]

The sane way Biden was elected here but you call that a free and fair election.

I never called it that.

 

[buttercup]

..i support Israel defending themselves....and what hamas did was more than just a terrorist attack.....hamas did that not caring about how many of their people were going to die....and they knew dam well this was going to happen...fuck hamas....

Yes, Hamas is evil and demonic.....and all sane people support any nation defending itself. I don't think anyone here is opposed to defense.

However, this whole situation is not as simplistic as many here seem to think it is. When you have a number of former IDF soldiers questioning what happened, I think people need to set aside emotion and tribalism, and not immediately believe whatever the MSM is saying, but think in a more objective way. Truth should always come first, above partisanship, tribalism, emotion, etc.

I posted this before, but if you haven't seen it, please watch this video, it's an interview with a woman who was in the IDF and understands how that border works.

Whether you agree with her or not, at the very least listen to what she is saying.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Lol. Who was dancing in the streets?
The Dancing Israelis: FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks - LewRockwell

not the ones here....

 

[EvilCat Breath]

I never called it that.

Many did.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

far too partisan?......you know all about that dont you jones?....

Conservatives are of course desperate to make it binary, polarized, oversimplified, and partisan – much of it has to do with the right’s bigotry and hate directed at Muslims. Conservatives also contrive and propagate lies about liberals being ‘anti-Semitic’ for some perceived partisan gain. And conservatives advance lies about Hamas and Palestinian civilians being ‘the same’ in a reprehensible effort to ‘justify’ the killing of innocent Palestinian civilians.

 

[gipper]

not the ones here....

Lol. Wrong. They were dancing in NJ watching the towers fall.

Get informed.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Conservatives are of course desperate to make it binary, polarized, oversimplified, and partisan – much of it has to do with the right’s bigotry and hate directed at Muslims. Conservatives also contrive and propagate lies about liberals being ‘anti-Semitic’ for some perceived partisan gain. And conservatives advance lies about Hamas and Palestinian civilians being ‘the same’ in a reprehensible effort to ‘justify’ the killing of innocent Palestinian civilians.

jones stop it....you are one of the most partisan posters in this forum....and a hell of a lot of the shit you spew here about conservatives is just your partisan bullshit....

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Isarel is killing terrorists that attacked them. Real binary now

This is of course typical of the dishonest right: to oversimplify, misrepresent, and lie about a perceived opponent; to make partisan and polarize an issue absent nuance, facts, and the truth.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Lol. Wrong. They were dancing in NJ watching the towers fall.

Get informed.

read what i said.....what i just read was that when they heard about it in Palestine they started celebrating but Arafat shut it down because he did not want to be associated with Al Queda....maybe you should learn to read........

 

[SassyIrishLass]

This is of course typical of the dishonest right: to oversimplify, misrepresent, and lie about a perceived opponent; to make partisan and polarize an issue absent nuance, facts, and the truth.

Jones give it a rest. Your terrorist friends attacked Israel and will now suffer the consequences

 

[Harry Dresden]

This is of course typical of the dishonest right: to oversimplify, misrepresent, and lie about a perceived opponent; to make partisan and polarize an issue absent nuance, facts, and the truth.

your side does that to jones....you do that a lot yourself....

 

[Lesh]

Isarel is killing terrorists that attacked them. Real binary now

So far they have killed over 800 kids… and they just getting started

 

[marvin martian]

One should be able to recognize the recent, horrific acts by Hamas on the Gaza border and simultaneously acknowledge Israel's decades long mistreatment of Palestinians in the occupied territories without being accused of being a sympathizer of Hamas. Does Israel's oppression of Palestinians justify what Hamas did? Of course not. Is it something that needs to be addressed as part of any future negotiation between the two sides? Yes.
One step in the right direction would be for Israel to stop expanding the settlements in the territories along with sacking Netanyahu.

Human rights in Israel and Occupied Palestinian Territories

Stay up to date on the state of human rights in Israel and Occupied Palestinian Territories with the latest research, campaigns and education material from Amnesty International.

www.amnesty.org

^^^Found another Hamas supporter!

 

[marvin martian]

So far they have killed over 800 kids… and they just getting started

^^^Found another Hamas supporter!

 

[marvin martian]

This is of course typical of the dishonest right: to oversimplify, misrepresent, and lie about a perceived opponent; to make partisan and polarize an issue absent nuance, facts, and the truth.

^^^Found another Hamas supporter!

 

[Harry Dresden]

So far they have killed over 800 kids… and they just getting started

how many kids has hamas killed so far?....