Happily. I'm not convinced you know any more than I do.Anyway, can you admit you do not know what happened in the beginning?
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Happily. I'm not convinced you know any more than I do.Anyway, can you admit you do not know what happened in the beginning?
Wrong? Would you please clarify the difference between my saying you believe the universe came from nothing and you saying your belief is creation ex nihilo.
Happily. I'm not convinced you know any more than I do.
I don't think you know what you believe, ex nihilo is a Latin phrase meaning "out of nothing", you just repeat what you've been told. You need to start thinking for yourself.Why would I have to explain universe from nothing when that isn't my position?
I already explained creation ex nihilo ad nauseum.
I personally believe that God is too big to be contained in one belief system or dogma.
And, if you look at all religions, all of them say that what we do in this life determines what happens next. All of them say there is something better if we do good, and something worse if we do bad. All of them have some form of a Creator/God/Higher Power.
I'm more of the mind that God is a big, multifaceted being, and each religion is a reflection of just one of His facets.
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
For the Law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
your book, christian bible is about a religion as supposition for political motives using historical events unrelated to the messages as being portrayed for that purpose.
only the most destitute of creatures would correlate the middle east turmoil and the present country of israel as anything than the corruption of self serving zealots, netanyahu that historically create the situations they then condemn when the reciprocal solutions are rendered.
your 10,000 page document.
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As usual, you do not provide an answer to my question, but go on the further inanities. I move on.
Wut?
As usual, you do not provide an answer to my question, but go on the further inanities. I move on.
Jesus never taught any of that since there was no bible for him to teach out of.Sorry, your facts have no facts behind them. The Bible quotes itself to prove itself.Undeniable facts of Israelite true God worship history--- From Moses on up until this very day, teach, serve and worship-a single being God-YHVH(Jehovah)--The God taught to Jesus and every bible writer. These facts prove no capitol G God belongs in the last line of John 1:1. Error to mislead all who listen into breaking Gods #1 commandment daily. Jesus and Paul and Peter and John all teach--Jesus has a God, his Father- John 20:17, Rev 3:12--- 2Cor 1:3, 1Cor 8:6, 1Cor 15:24-28---1Peter 1:3, --Rev 1:6
Trinity translations teach 2 different Gods--the single being God= Father is correct. 1Cor 8:6, John 17:3
John 15:20-21--Jesus warned all, on account of his name they wouldn't know the true God= Father-- It takes believing Jesus and the facts that back it.
Here are the real teachings of Jesus and 3 bible writers-- Jesus at John 20:17, Rev 3:12--(Paul at 2Cor 1:3,, 1Cor 15:24-28,, 1 Cor 8:6--(Peter-1Peter 1:3--(John at Rev 1:6-- All teach--Jesus has a God his Father. The facts of reality. The capitol G God in the last line of John 1:1 is the error. It makes your translations teach 2 different gods.
Ding can you explain how the bible and the big bang theory are perfectly the same as you said earlierMaybe if you had a little faith you would be more reasonable.But you can see through Satan's posing where billions of others can't? How do you know you are not being fooled too?Actually those other gods are false made up gods-they do not exist. It is satan posing as those gods. Yet billions give them worship.
I think, if I were Satan and wanted to bring mischief into the world, my weapon of choice would be faith, a great counter to reason.
Jesus never taught any of that since there was no bible for him to teach out of.Sorry, your facts have no facts behind them. The Bible quotes itself to prove itself.Undeniable facts of Israelite true God worship history--- From Moses on up until this very day, teach, serve and worship-a single being God-YHVH(Jehovah)--The God taught to Jesus and every bible writer. These facts prove no capitol G God belongs in the last line of John 1:1. Error to mislead all who listen into breaking Gods #1 commandment daily. Jesus and Paul and Peter and John all teach--Jesus has a God, his Father- John 20:17, Rev 3:12--- 2Cor 1:3, 1Cor 8:6, 1Cor 15:24-28---1Peter 1:3, --Rev 1:6
Trinity translations teach 2 different Gods--the single being God= Father is correct. 1Cor 8:6, John 17:3
John 15:20-21--Jesus warned all, on account of his name they wouldn't know the true God= Father-- It takes believing Jesus and the facts that back it.
Here are the real teachings of Jesus and 3 bible writers-- Jesus at John 20:17, Rev 3:12--(Paul at 2Cor 1:3,, 1Cor 15:24-28,, 1 Cor 8:6--(Peter-1Peter 1:3--(John at Rev 1:6-- All teach--Jesus has a God his Father. The facts of reality. The capitol G God in the last line of John 1:1 is the error. It makes your translations teach 2 different gods.
Wake up if you can
Try Zoloft
So are cigarette labels...……………Jesus never taught any of that since there was no bible for him to teach out of.Sorry, your facts have no facts behind them. The Bible quotes itself to prove itself.Undeniable facts of Israelite true God worship history--- From Moses on up until this very day, teach, serve and worship-a single being God-YHVH(Jehovah)--The God taught to Jesus and every bible writer. These facts prove no capitol G God belongs in the last line of John 1:1. Error to mislead all who listen into breaking Gods #1 commandment daily. Jesus and Paul and Peter and John all teach--Jesus has a God, his Father- John 20:17, Rev 3:12--- 2Cor 1:3, 1Cor 8:6, 1Cor 15:24-28---1Peter 1:3, --Rev 1:6
Trinity translations teach 2 different Gods--the single being God= Father is correct. 1Cor 8:6, John 17:3
John 15:20-21--Jesus warned all, on account of his name they wouldn't know the true God= Father-- It takes believing Jesus and the facts that back it.
Here are the real teachings of Jesus and 3 bible writers-- Jesus at John 20:17, Rev 3:12--(Paul at 2Cor 1:3,, 1Cor 15:24-28,, 1 Cor 8:6--(Peter-1Peter 1:3--(John at Rev 1:6-- All teach--Jesus has a God his Father. The facts of reality. The capitol G God in the last line of John 1:1 is the error. It makes your translations teach 2 different gods.
Wake up if you can
Try Zoloft
His teachings are in every translation on earth.
Yes, Genesis Chapter 1 is ancient man’s allegorical account of creation.Ding can you explain how the bible and the big bang theory are perfectly the same as you said earlierMaybe if you had a little faith you would be more reasonable.But you can see through Satan's posing where billions of others can't? How do you know you are not being fooled too?Actually those other gods are false made up gods-they do not exist. It is satan posing as those gods. Yet billions give them worship.
I think, if I were Satan and wanted to bring mischief into the world, my weapon of choice would be faith, a great counter to reason.
If you say so, by the way you never did explain how the big bang theory and Genesis are in perfect harmony?Yes, Genesis Chapter 1 is ancient man’s allegorical account of creation.Ding can you explain how the bible and the big bang theory are perfectly the same as you said earlierMaybe if you had a little faith you would be more reasonable.But you can see through Satan's posing where billions of others can't? How do you know you are not being fooled too?Actually those other gods are false made up gods-they do not exist. It is satan posing as those gods. Yet billions give them worship.
I think, if I were Satan and wanted to bring mischief into the world, my weapon of choice would be faith, a great counter to reason.
The universe was created. Man arose from the creation.If you say so, by the way you never did explain how the big bang theory and Genesis are in perfect harmony?Yes, Genesis Chapter 1 is ancient man’s allegorical account of creation.Ding can you explain how the bible and the big bang theory are perfectly the same as you said earlierMaybe if you had a little faith you would be more reasonable.But you can see through Satan's posing where billions of others can't? How do you know you are not being fooled too?Actually those other gods are false made up gods-they do not exist. It is satan posing as those gods. Yet billions give them worship.
I think, if I were Satan and wanted to bring mischief into the world, my weapon of choice would be faith, a great counter to reason.
The big bang if real was 13 to 14 billion years ago and the Earth is 5 or so billion years old. So the Heavens were created 8 billion years before the Earth not 6 days. But you keep on being delusionalThe universe was created. Man arose from the creation.If you say so, by the way you never did explain how the big bang theory and Genesis are in perfect harmony?Yes, Genesis Chapter 1 is ancient man’s allegorical account of creation.Ding can you explain how the bible and the big bang theory are perfectly the same as you said earlierMaybe if you had a little faith you would be more reasonable.But you can see through Satan's posing where billions of others can't? How do you know you are not being fooled too?
I think, if I were Satan and wanted to bring mischief into the world, my weapon of choice would be faith, a great counter to reason.
Are you reading the allegorical account of creation literally?The big bang if real was 13 to 14 billion years ago and the Earth is 5 or so billion years old. So the Heavens were created 8 billion years before the Earth not 6 days. But you keep on being delusionalThe universe was created. Man arose from the creation.If you say so, by the way you never did explain how the big bang theory and Genesis are in perfect harmony?Yes, Genesis Chapter 1 is ancient man’s allegorical account of creation.Ding can you explain how the bible and the big bang theory are perfectly the same as you said earlierMaybe if you had a little faith you would be more reasonable.
The Beginning
1In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.
6 And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” 7 So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.
9 And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.
11 Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.
14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.
20 And God said, “Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the vault of the sky.” 21 So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living thing with which the water teems and that moves about in it, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 God blessed them and said, “Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth.” 23 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fifth day.
24 And God said, “Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: the livestock, the creatures that move along the ground, and the wild animals, each according to its kind.” And it was so. 25 God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.
26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”
27 So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.
28 God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”
29 Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky and all the creatures that move along the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food.” And it was so.
31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day.
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"The universe was created. Man arose from the creation."
"Are you reading the allegorical account of creation literally?"
Hey Taz, you and ding should be roomies in the next life.
It's the central question. The obvious starting point.View attachment 271277
"The universe was created. Man arose from the creation."
"Are you reading the allegorical account of creation literally?"
Hey Taz, you and ding should be roomies in the next life.
Are you reading the allegorical account of creation literally?The big bang if real was 13 to 14 billion years ago and the Earth is 5 or so billion years old. So the Heavens were created 8 billion years before the Earth not 6 days. But you keep on being delusionalThe universe was created. Man arose from the creation.If you say so, by the way you never did explain how the big bang theory and Genesis are in perfect harmony?Yes, Genesis Chapter 1 is ancient man’s allegorical account of creation.Ding can you explain how the bible and the big bang theory are perfectly the same as you said earlier
The Beginning
1In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.
6 And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” 7 So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.
9 And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.
11 Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.
14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.
20 And God said, “Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the vault of the sky.” 21 So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living thing with which the water teems and that moves about in it, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 God blessed them and said, “Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth.” 23 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fifth day.
24 And God said, “Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: the livestock, the creatures that move along the ground, and the wild animals, each according to its kind.” And it was so. 25 God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.
26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”
27 So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.
28 God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”
29 Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky and all the creatures that move along the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food.” And it was so.
31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day.
I did already. God created existence from nothing and man arose from that creation naturally. Stop reading Genesis literally.Are you reading the allegorical account of creation literally?The big bang if real was 13 to 14 billion years ago and the Earth is 5 or so billion years old. So the Heavens were created 8 billion years before the Earth not 6 days. But you keep on being delusionalThe universe was created. Man arose from the creation.If you say so, by the way you never did explain how the big bang theory and Genesis are in perfect harmony?Yes, Genesis Chapter 1 is ancient man’s allegorical account of creation.
The Beginning
1In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.
6 And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” 7 So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.
9 And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.
11 Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.
14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.
20 And God said, “Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the vault of the sky.” 21 So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living thing with which the water teems and that moves about in it, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 God blessed them and said, “Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth.” 23 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fifth day.
24 And God said, “Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: the livestock, the creatures that move along the ground, and the wild animals, each according to its kind.” And it was so. 25 God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.
26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”
27 So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.
28 God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”
29 Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky and all the creatures that move along the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food.” And it was so.
31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day.
Nope I do not read the bible, I pointed out that you said that the book of Genesis matches up perfectly with the big bang version of the creation of the Universe. So please explain the similarities between the two.
Babble on kiddy
I did already. God created existence from nothing and man arose from that creation naturally. Stop reading Genesis literally.Are you reading the allegorical account of creation literally?The big bang if real was 13 to 14 billion years ago and the Earth is 5 or so billion years old. So the Heavens were created 8 billion years before the Earth not 6 days. But you keep on being delusionalThe universe was created. Man arose from the creation.If you say so, by the way you never did explain how the big bang theory and Genesis are in perfect harmony?
The Beginning
1In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.
6 And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” 7 So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.
9 And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.
11 Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.
14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.
20 And God said, “Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the vault of the sky.” 21 So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living thing with which the water teems and that moves about in it, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 God blessed them and said, “Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth.” 23 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fifth day.
24 And God said, “Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: the livestock, the creatures that move along the ground, and the wild animals, each according to its kind.” And it was so. 25 God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.
26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”
27 So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.
28 God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”
29 Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky and all the creatures that move along the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food.” And it was so.
31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day.
Nope I do not read the bible, I pointed out that you said that the book of Genesis matches up perfectly with the big bang version of the creation of the Universe. So please explain the similarities between the two.
Babble on kiddy