The War on Journalism

[Pogo]

Here's another perfect example of fake news -- this just happened to get bumped from 2016:

"Sanders quotes Rump saying all Mexicans are Rapists and Murders [sic] "

And here I thought only crows could be murders, but the OP back there makes an ass-sertion with no link, no quote, no video, gets challenged to document it, then runs away and hides. And that was thirty-two months ago. And yet his sycophants in the thread, seeing the same dearth of evidence as everybody else, chose to run with the fake ball as if it were valid.

Echobubble confirmation bias. There walk among us creatures who apparently believe they're entitled to "alternate facts". Just wish it, and it comes true in hallucination-land.

The thing about "alternate facts" is that they belong to an alternate universe.

 

[Coyote]

Freedom and the Media 2019: A Downward Spiral

• Freedom of the media has been deteriorating around the world over the past decade.
• In some of the most influential democracies in the world, populist leaders have overseen concerted attempts to throttle the independence of the media sector.
• While the threats to global media freedom are real and concerning in their own right, their impact on the state of democracy is what makes them truly dangerous.

The fundamental right to seek and disseminate information through an independent press is under attack, and part of the assault has come from an unexpected source. Elected leaders in many democracies, who should be press freedom’s staunchest defenders, have made explicit attempts to silence critical media voices and strengthen outlets that serve up favorable coverage. The trend is linked to a global decline in democracy itself: The erosion of press freedom is both a symptom of and a contributor to the breakdown of other democratic institutions and principles, a fact that makes it especially alarming.

According to Freedom House’s Freedom in the World data, media freedom has been deteriorating around the world over the past decade, with new forms of repression taking hold in open societies and authoritarian states alike. The trend is most acute in Europe, previously a bastion of well-established freedoms, and in Eurasia and the Middle East, where many of the world’s worst dictatorships are concentrated. If democratic powers cease to support media independence at home and impose no consequences for its restriction abroad, the free press corps could be in danger of virtual extinction.

And this is on reason why Kashogi’s murder should matter.

 

[Coyote]

The Irish Times view on press freedom: holding back the illiberal tide

The erosion of press freedom is both a symptom and a driver of wider democratic drift

In Algiers last Sunday, police arrested the reporter Sofiane Merrakchi on suspicion of having filmed a demonstration for Al Jazeera, whose coverage of recent protests has irritated the authorities. On the same day, in Azerbaijan, an investigative journalist named Afgan Mukhtarli, who has written about corruption in the country, began a hunger strike in protest over his six-year prison sentence, handed down on foot of what Reporters Without Borders calls “absurd”, unproven charges. A day later, on Monday, Nagarjuna Reddy, a reporter who covers corruption in India’s eastern Andhra Pradesh state, was nearly killed when he was beaten and tortured with steel bars and knives.

None of these incidents – a random snapshot taken over 48 hours – generated international uproar. Nor are they connected in themselves. But, in another, very real, sense, they are unmistakably linked. All are symptoms of a global climate – one no longer limited to those parts of the world led by autocrats and dictators – in which suppression of independent journalism is increasingly becoming the norm. That makes life difficult for journalists, but it should alarm all of us, because a vibrant, free press – messy, imperfect and occasionally infuriating though it may be – is not merely a right accorded to an industry but a necessary condition for democracy to flourish.

As newspapers today mark World News Day, celebrations are tempered by these chill winds. Thirty of our colleagues in journalism have been killed so far this year, and the Committee to Protect Journalists reports a recent spike in the number of detentions. Across the world, media freedom is atrophying. The slide is not confined to authoritarian states. The rise of illiberal strongmen, such as Viktor Orban in Hungary or Recep Tayyip Erdogan in Turkey, has steadily normalised rhetoric that demonises the news media, and that produces a circular effect: when Donald Trump issues dark warnings about the “fake news media”, he emboldens autocrats elsewhere. That puts lives at risk and democratic rights in peril

 

[sparky]

We're #48>

2019 World Press Freedom Index | Reporters Without Borders

~S~

 

[Coyote]

We're #48>

2019 World Press Freedom Index | Reporters Without Borders

~S~

Kind of embarrassing....

 

[pismoe]

Freedom and the Media 2019: A Downward Spiral

• Freedom of the media has been deteriorating around the world over the past decade.
• In some of the most influential democracies in the world, populist leaders have overseen concerted attempts to throttle the independence of the media sector.
• While the threats to global media freedom are real and concerning in their own right, their impact on the state of democracy is what makes them truly dangerous.

The fundamental right to seek and disseminate information through an independent press is under attack, and part of the assault has come from an unexpected source. Elected leaders in many democracies, who should be press freedom’s staunchest defenders, have made explicit attempts to silence critical media voices and strengthen outlets that serve up favorable coverage. The trend is linked to a global decline in democracy itself: The erosion of press freedom is both a symptom of and a contributor to the breakdown of other democratic institutions and principles, a fact that makes it especially alarming.

According to Freedom House’s Freedom in the World data, media freedom has been deteriorating around the world over the past decade, with new forms of repression taking hold in open societies and authoritarian states alike. The trend is most acute in Europe, previously a bastion of well-established freedoms, and in Eurasia and the Middle East, where many of the world’s worst dictatorships are concentrated. If democratic powers cease to support media independence at home and impose no consequences for its restriction abroad, the free press corps could be in danger of virtual extinction.

And this is on reason why Kashogi’s murder should matter.

---------------------------------------------- I don't care about 'press freedom' or any freedom around the world for others than Americans IN the USA . And if things are getting too hot for media over seas they oughta get into a different line of work . Every 'journalist' I ever heard about is a VOLUNTEER Journalist . I only care about what is reported on in the USA and seems to me that media or press freedom in the USA has really gone to heck Coyote .

 

[pismoe]

Freedom and the Media 2019: A Downward Spiral

• Freedom of the media has been deteriorating around the world over the past decade.
• In some of the most influential democracies in the world, populist leaders have overseen concerted attempts to throttle the independence of the media sector.
• While the threats to global media freedom are real and concerning in their own right, their impact on the state of democracy is what makes them truly dangerous.

The fundamental right to seek and disseminate information through an independent press is under attack, and part of the assault has come from an unexpected source. Elected leaders in many democracies, who should be press freedom’s staunchest defenders, have made explicit attempts to silence critical media voices and strengthen outlets that serve up favorable coverage. The trend is linked to a global decline in democracy itself: The erosion of press freedom is both a symptom of and a contributor to the breakdown of other democratic institutions and principles, a fact that makes it especially alarming.

According to Freedom House’s Freedom in the World data, media freedom has been deteriorating around the world over the past decade, with new forms of repression taking hold in open societies and authoritarian states alike. The trend is most acute in Europe, previously a bastion of well-established freedoms, and in Eurasia and the Middle East, where many of the world’s worst dictatorships are concentrated. If democratic powers cease to support media independence at home and impose no consequences for its restriction abroad, the free press corps could be in danger of virtual extinction.

And this is on reason why Kashogi’s murder should matter.

---------------------------------------------- I don't care about 'press freedom' or any freedom around the world for others than Americans IN the USA . And if things are getting too hot for media over seas they oughta get into a different line of work . Every 'journalist' I ever heard about is a VOLUNTEER Journalist . I only care about what is reported on in the USA and seems to me that media or press freedom in the USA has really gone to heck Coyote .

--------------------------------------------- yep . if its ain't American it isn't worth 'feces' Pogo !!

 

[Billiejeens]

We're #48>

2019 World Press Freedom Index | Reporters Without Borders

~S~

Kind of embarrassing....

You're embarrassed that the American media has dropped all pretense of journalistic integrity and has openly became activists for their party?

Stop supporting that, then.

 

[koshergrl]

Freedom of the press does not mean that the press won't be called upon to answer for its lying.

The fake press are liars, propagandists, and traitors. If you pretend to be *press* and then use that freedom to bring harm to your country, influence elections, destroy people and get people killed, guess what? You're a criminal. Your *press* badge won't protect you from being prosecuted for treason, collusion, or conspiracy to commit.

 

[WillPower]

I think that the claim it would ruin the economy is a straw man. The Saudi’s by 99.9% of their weapons systems from us. These are complex proprietary systems. Russian systems don’t talk to Chinese systems don’t talk to American systems etc. The Saudi’s have invested billions into our systems, they are not going to start from scratch with another supplier.

The other question is...are you proposing we give Carter Blanche to them? They can do whatever they want in the territory of another ally, Turkey? When do we take a stand?

Does journalistic freedom mean anything to you? I don’t like all journalists and reporting, but where do you draw the line? Authoritarianism vs a free media. And a free media is the only check on governments.

Maybe you could explain how your "war on journalism" OP has anything to do with what the Saudis did? You hooked it to Trump somehow, which is hardly surprising, but ridiculous. The supposed "journalists" hounding Trump have nothing to do journalism, I know, I have a BS degree in journalism. You're not mentioning what the cartels in Mehico, which you are content to let operate over our border, do to journalists who get close to them. Or what happens to journalists who displease Putin....but he was murdering journalists long before Trump was elected so you can't hook that to Trump. This thread belongs in your favorite destination for OPs that you don't agree with... the Rubber Room, so why isn't it there where it belongs....because you're a mod?

 

[koshergrl]

Fake journalists and the schools that create them have declared war on the American people.

So if we're at war with them, that's why. They're liars, propagandists, racketeers and traitors.

 

[sparky]

We're #48>

2019 World Press Freedom Index | Reporters Without Borders

~S~

Kind of embarrassing....

You're embarrassed that the American media has dropped all pretense of journalistic integrity and has openly became activists for their party?

Stop supporting that, then.

Naw,
I'm far more embarrassed that the American public openly portrays itself as having an attention span of a gnat, and the reading comprehension of a lizard....

~S~

 

[koshergrl]

We're #48>

2019 World Press Freedom Index | Reporters Without Borders

~S~

Kind of embarrassing....

You're embarrassed that the American media has dropped all pretense of journalistic integrity and has openly became activists for their party?

Stop supporting that, then.

Naw,
I'm far more embarrassed that the American public openly portrays itself as having an attention span of a gnat, and the reading comprehension of a lizard....

~S~

No, you're embarassed that you don't understand what's happening.

 

[sparky]

No, you're embarassed that you don't understand what's happening.

Political Theater

all socially engineered to have one's focus directed

usually to take any focus off real issues

~S~

 

[Billiejeens]

No, you're embarassed that you don't understand what's happening.

Political Theater

all socially engineered to have one's focus directed

usually to take any focus off real issues

~S~

Like a coup?

 

[sparky]

No, you're embarassed that you don't understand what's happening.

Political Theater

all socially engineered to have one's focus directed

usually to take any focus off real issues

~S~

Like a coup?

doubtful

we've one ONE party , and they're not about to be knocked off the throne

~S~

 

[Billiejeens]

No, you're embarassed that you don't understand what's happening.

Political Theater

all socially engineered to have one's focus directed

usually to take any focus off real issues

~S~

Like a coup?

doubtful

we've one ONE party , and they're not about to be knocked off the throne

~S~

What's doubtful?

 

[sparky]

Truth, justice, freedom

take your pick Billie

the trick to subjugating the masses , is to do so w/out them realizing they ARE controlled.

and so folks THINK there's recourse, redemption , always hangin' hat on what they're told exists, w/out it existing at all.

this is the heart of which all that it betrays call 'fake' , because they exist in an Orwellian cognitive dissonance that's comfortable for them, until their bubbles <pop>

~S~

 

[JimBowie1958]

The abduction and likely death of Kashoggi. A surprisingly sycophantic attitude from an American President known for cosying to autocrats. It must be “rogue assassins”...or something. Or something.

To abduct a person from a consulate on another nation’s territory...against that nation’s laws, represents a new and much more dangerous assault on journalistic freedom. In fact...I think it is unheard of. And it puts the US in a tricky position. Saudi Arabia is our ally. But a free media and the rights of journalists to report, and to hold their governments responsible has long been an underpinning of American Democracy. We have censored allies before for bad behavior...withheld sales for example.

We are witnessing a demise journalistic freedomof around the world journalists are being threatened, killed and jailed for trying to do their jobs. They depend on bigger more powerful countries to look out for their rights should authoritarian states come down on them.

If we kow tow to the Saudi’s over this, what does that tell other dictators and what does it say to our values?

If journalists today had a lick of integrity they would have more moral authority.

Right now no one respects them as investigators but only view them as political hacks spinning a narrative for their corporate ownership.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Trump has had several lame comments on this subject to be sure. On the other hand, ruining the economy over one person seems a pretty high price to pay. I find most journalists, are not. They are socialists with a mission. It would be great if we had journalists.

I think that the claim it would ruin the economy is a straw man. The Saudi’s by 99.9% of their weapons systems from us. These are complex proprietary systems. Russian systems don’t talk to Chinese systems don’t talk to American systems etc. The Saudi’s have invested billions into our systems, they are not going to start from scratch with another supplier.

The other question is...are you proposing we give Carter Blanche to them? They can do whatever they want in the territory of another ally, Turkey? When do we take a stand?

Does journalistic freedom mean anything to you? I don’t like all journalists and reporting, but where do you draw the line? Authoritarianism vs a free media. And a free media is the only check on governments.

Who is Carter Blanche?