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You have it mostly wrong. Freight makes money, oodles of money. It's Passenger Trains that don't do too well. And almost all of them are subsidized.
If you're so dang knowledgeable, why don't you propose high speed rail for freight haha?
Freight isn't in a big hurry to get anywhere. Even produce only goes for a very short haul on a train. Plus, the weight of the freight car loaded, you honestly want to try and build a track to run that puppy at 190mph? As it is, freight trains go from very,very slow to over 100 mph around here. They are actually faster than the Passenger Trains. Of course, derailing a Freighter doesn't kill a few hundred people either. If you were to build a track to run freight at 190mph the cost would go out the window fast. This is why the HS Passenger Trains have their own disignated tracks. Around here, Freight and Passenger trains use the same rails and you have to slow the Passenger train down. Plus, the freight has the right of way. You honestly believe that either B&N or SP would stop their money trains and wait for the money pit Amtrak?
I might propose we do a high speed riding you out on a rail but only after the Tar and Feathering is done.
You have it mostly wrong. Freight makes money, oodles of money. It's Passenger Trains that don't do too well. And almost all of them are subsidized.
If you're so dang knowledgeable, why don't you propose high speed rail for freight haha?
Freight isn't in a big hurry to get anywhere. Even produce only goes for a very short haul on a train. Plus, the weight of the freight car loaded, you honestly want to try and build a track to run that puppy at 190mph? As it is, freight trains go from very,very slow to over 100 mph around here. They are actually faster than the Passenger Trains. Of course, derailing a Freighter doesn't kill a few hundred people either. If you were to build a track to run freight at 190mph the cost would go out the window fast. This is why the HS Passenger Trains have their own disignated tracks. Around here, Freight and Passenger trains use the same rails and you have to slow the Passenger train down. Plus, the freight has the right of way. You honestly believe that either B&N or SP would stop their money trains and wait for the money pit Amtrak?
I might propose we do a high speed riding you out on a rail but only after the Tar and Feathering is done.
You just try it lowball. I'll kick your stupid ass haha.
When we are discussing building high speed rail, it isn't for freight. I wasn't talking about freight. Yet you insult me trying to show how stupid you farking are.
You have it mostly wrong. Freight makes money, oodles of money. It's Passenger Trains that don't do too well. And almost all of them are subsidized.
If you're so dang knowledgeable, why don't you propose high speed rail for freight haha?
Freight isn't in a big hurry to get anywhere. Even produce only goes for a very short haul on a train. Plus, the weight of the freight car loaded, you honestly want to try and build a track to run that puppy at 190mph? As it is, freight trains go from very,very slow to over 100 mph around here. They are actually faster than the Passenger Trains. Of course, derailing a Freighter doesn't kill a few hundred people either. If you were to build a track to run freight at 190mph the cost would go out the window fast. This is why the HS Passenger Trains have their own disignated tracks. Around here, Freight and Passenger trains use the same rails and you have to slow the Passenger train down. Plus, the freight has the right of way. You honestly believe that either B&N or SP would stop their money trains and wait for the money pit Amtrak?
I might propose we do a high speed riding you out on a rail but only after the Tar and Feathering is done.
You just try it lowball. I'll kick your stupid ass haha.
When we are discussing building high speed rail, it isn't for freight. I wasn't talking about freight. Yet you insult me trying to show how stupid you farking are.
Oh, really,let's me refresh your memory.
If you're so dang knowledgeable, why don't you propose high speed rail for freight haha?
Now,put this McClelland Saddle on and let's get going, mule.
You have it mostly wrong. Freight makes money, oodles of money. It's Passenger Trains that don't do too well. And almost all of them are subsidized.
If you're so dang knowledgeable, why don't you propose high speed rail for freight haha?
Freight isn't in a big hurry to get anywhere. Even produce only goes for a very short haul on a train. Plus, the weight of the freight car loaded, you honestly want to try and build a track to run that puppy at 190mph? As it is, freight trains go from very,very slow to over 100 mph around here. They are actually faster than the Passenger Trains. Of course, derailing a Freighter doesn't kill a few hundred people either. If you were to build a track to run freight at 190mph the cost would go out the window fast. This is why the HS Passenger Trains have their own disignated tracks. Around here, Freight and Passenger trains use the same rails and you have to slow the Passenger train down. Plus, the freight has the right of way. You honestly believe that either B&N or SP would stop their money trains and wait for the money pit Amtrak?
I might propose we do a high speed riding you out on a rail but only after the Tar and Feathering is done.
You just try it lowball. I'll kick your stupid ass haha.
When we are discussing building high speed rail, it isn't for freight. I wasn't talking about freight. Yet you insult me trying to show how stupid you farking are.
Oh, really,let's me refresh your memory.
If you're so dang knowledgeable, why don't you propose high speed rail for freight haha?
Now,put this McClelland Saddle on and let's get going, mule.
I'll be the one putting my boots and spurs to your donkey arse. You said, "You have it mostly wrong."
You're the one who brought up freight. I agree it makes oodles of money, but building hella expensive high speed rail for it? Please explain.
Do you know why the libs want to build a high speed rail system? It isn't for freight.
Once again, let me post your own words. You were the one that brought it up. None of were talking about freight until some jackass posted this
If you're so dang knowledgeable, why don't you propose high speed rail for freight haha?
You can lie like a rug if you want, so keep breying. I have better things to do than listen to your 2nd grade trolling. Us Grownups are talking.
Where are you going to build the high speed rail lines? You ain't going to build them where Progs live in high numbers. That "eminent domain" must be used. Do you see it cutting straight through those areas? The poor areas will hold them up for hundreds of billions of dollars if not trillions of dollars just by themselves. And the lawyers....oh the lawyers.I heard it is because the Airline industry lobby is very afraid that if America develops a high speed rail network, the Airline industry will lose a lot of money. But I do agree with the post, it is past due time that the America develops a high speed national rail network. They is no reason why Japan , China and Europe should surpass us in this area.
Its a national disgrace.
I lived in Japan a while and loved them. Too much traffic to want a car, but their mass transit system was great. Was able to go backpacking in the middle of nowhere and get there all by trains and buses. Took a bullet train to Kyoto during a stand down and that was amazing. Then a sleeper bus on the way back. Chairs laid back into beds with curtains around you and drove through the night.
Not sure the feasibility in the US, especially with the airplane and car lobby's, but I'd take it.
I lived in Japan a while and loved them. Too much traffic to want a car, but their mass transit system was great. Was able to go backpacking in the middle of nowhere and get there all by trains and buses. Took a bullet train to Kyoto during a stand down and that was amazing. Then a sleeper bus on the way back. Chairs laid back into beds with curtains around you and drove through the night.
Not sure the feasibility in the US, especially with the airplane and car lobby's, but I'd take it.
Really ?
Trains are dial up modems in the era of fiber internet.
Really ?
Trains are dial up modems in the era of fiber internet.
Japan has had them since before the Internet even. Bad analogy.
Really ?
Trains are dial up modems in the era of fiber internet.
Japan has had them since before the Internet even. Bad analogy.
And with one exception they all lose money.
China has the world’s fastest and largest high-speed rail network — more than 19,000 miles, the vast majority of which was built in the past decade. Japan’s bullet trains can reach nearly 200 miles per hour and date to the 1960s. They have moved more than 9 billion people without a single passenger causality. France began service of the high-speed TGV train in 1981 and the rest of Europe quickly followed.
But the U.S. has no true high-speed trains, aside from sections of Amtrak’s Acela line in the Northeast Corridor. The Acela can reach 150 mph for only 34 miles of its 457-mile span. Its average speed between New York and Boston is about 65 mph. California’s high-speed rail system is under construction, but whether it will ever get completed as intended is uncertain.
Sadly, the US is falling light years behind China.
Really ?
Trains are dial up modems in the era of fiber internet.
Japan has had them since before the Internet even. Bad analogy.
And with one exception they all lose money.
How much did that winter freeze in Texas cost because of poor infrastucture ?
How many people were killed in ice storm crashes last winter ?
What's the cost of cleaning up a 70 car pileup ?
The OP will soon be demanding high speed rail across the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans.The video explains how you're wrongThat’s because we have superior freeways and Americans like being independent and free to drive their own cars. Not to mention trains never take you to and from you beginning and end destination, you always need a second mode of transportation just to get to the train.
Europe has a so called good high speed train system, yet it still sucks and is insanely expensive. Personally I’ve used the train a few times and in some specific cases is good to use, but usually it’s far faster and cheaper to just drive or fly to your destination.
but don't watch it. Just keep being wrong.
It’s all propaganda crap from globalists and statists that want the little people to conform and use public transportation.
If rail is so fucking good, then it would be all over the place in America. At one time it was, then it was replaced with aircraft and highways, because that was even better.
Everyone always says that Germany’s rail system is one of the best. I’ve lived here for many years now, and I can tell you it sucks ass. You still need to drive to a train station, and in a big city pay an absurd amount for parking by the hour. Or take a taxi which is expensive as fuck as well, because you know, you have to pay for their healthcare and paid vacations, and the country bans Uber. Then there is the cost. It’s far cheaper to just drive somewhere close than to pay for round trip tickets. The time tables always suck, you have to wait for connections, and of course there are delays and redirects all the time.
If you are traveling far, especially to another country, it’s always far cheaper and faster to fly.
But hey, we all don’t know any better. It’s a good thing we got people like you to tell us what’s best for us.
And the US will be a third world shithole.The OP will soon be demanding high speed rail across the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans.
