The world leaping ahead of us, the U.S. still has no fast trains.

[the other mike]

Always a few party poopers with their weak sauce arguments.

 

[westwall]

China is a Communist country and doesn't give a shit about how much these things cost and how it affects the citizenry. Also workers are payed shit wages compared to the US.

All of the other counties that have bullet trains are small in land area compared to the US

Is that our excuse for falling so far behind them ?

You keep pushing this meme that we are falling behind...it's the opposite, dude. They are behind us. We fly, they use a train.

Guess which is more technically advanced!

china has a city that the smog killed thousands of people each month (guess that was before they noticed that their population was sinking). They started out by replacing all the buses and trains with electrical ones. Then they replaced the trucks with electric one. They are in the process of getting rid of all the gas cars now and are almost done. Even the Taxis are now electric. Even with the primary power generation coming from Coal, the air is not the killer it once was. You now see people without the face masks. In may ways, we are ahead of china but in other ways, they are light years ahead of us.

And guess what, that is from all of those coal fired powerplants they are building.

Now, what powers high speed rail?

Most of the power still comes from Coal Fired Power Plants. But converting the electricity to automotive and transportation power ends up polluting less. In a large city with so many cars, trucks and trains, using fossil fuels to power your car/truck/bus is a double whammy.

It's the exact opposite. The problem is China doesn't care about its people. They are merely cogs. Cogs get replaced. China cares about cheap power so that's what they use. They also don't care about toxic sludge so that's why they are leaders in solar module production that are incredibly toxic to make.

Powerplants are the largest source of pollution. That is a fact. We control the pollution, they don't.

 

[the other mike]

You now see people without the face masks. In may ways, we are ahead of china but in other ways, they are light years ahead of us.

They have real long-term goals, where we have none.

 

[the other mike]

The problem is China doesn't care about its people. They are merely cogs. Cogs get replaced. China cares about cheap power so that's what they use. .

Replace China with USA and you'll be more accurate.
Coal Ash Contaminates Groundwater at 91% of U.S. Coal Plants, Tests Show
Utah’s Coal-ash Pollution: A Toxic Example of a National Problem • The Revelator

 

[westwall]

The problem is China doesn't care about its people. They are merely cogs. Cogs get replaced. China cares about cheap power so that's what they use. .

Replace China with USA and you'll be more accurate.
Coal Ash Contaminates Groundwater at 91% of U.S. Coal Plants, Tests Show
Utah’s Coal-ash Pollution: A Toxic Example of a National Problem • The Revelator

Proving how little you know. Those ash dumps are over 100 years old. The Chinese are doing the same thing...only they're doing it now....when we know better.

 

[the other mike]

Proving how little you know. Those ash dumps are over 100 years old. The Chinese are doing the same thing...only they're doing it now....when we know better.

Read the OP and stop making this about China.
It's about America losing.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

China is a Communist country and doesn't give a shit about how much these things cost and how it affects the citizenry. Also workers are payed shit wages compared to the US.

All of the other counties that have bullet trains are small in land area compared to the US

Is that our excuse for falling so far behind them ?

Who is going to pay for it? If the venture was profitable private industry would have already built one. Nothing the Government does is cost effective.

 

[the other mike]

Who is going to pay for it? If the venture was profitable private industry would have already built one. Nothing the Government does is cost effective.

Not flushing a trillion a year in the war on terror we created
would be a good start.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Is that our excuse for falling so far behind them ?

You keep pushing this meme that we are falling behind...it's the opposite, dude. They are behind us. We fly, they use a train.

Guess which is more technically advanced!

china has a city that the smog killed thousands of people each month (guess that was before they noticed that their population was sinking). They started out by replacing all the buses and trains with electrical ones. Then they replaced the trucks with electric one. They are in the process of getting rid of all the gas cars now and are almost done. Even the Taxis are now electric. Even with the primary power generation coming from Coal, the air is not the killer it once was. You now see people without the face masks. In may ways, we are ahead of china but in other ways, they are light years ahead of us.

And guess what, that is from all of those coal fired powerplants they are building.

Now, what powers high speed rail?

Most of the power still comes from Coal Fired Power Plants. But converting the electricity to automotive and transportation power ends up polluting less. In a large city with so many cars, trucks and trains, using fossil fuels to power your car/truck/bus is a double whammy.

It's the exact opposite. The problem is China doesn't care about its people. They are merely cogs. Cogs get replaced. China cares about cheap power so that's what they use. They also don't care about toxic sludge so that's why they are leaders in solar module production that are incredibly toxic to make.

Powerplants are the largest source of pollution. That is a fact. We control the pollution, they don't.

It's got to the point in china they are having to do something. It affects their health care and even their factory production. The US was well on it's way to turning the eastern and western seaboards into what china has now in their major cities. They are left with no choice when it hit's the pocket books of the Uber chinese rich and government. You really need to get out more.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

You now see people without the face masks. In may ways, we are ahead of china but in other ways, they are light years ahead of us.

They have real long-term goals, where we have none.

Yes we do. The plan is for the rich to get richer at the expense of everyone else.

 

[james bond]

China is a Communist country and doesn't give a shit about how much these things cost and how it affects the citizenry. Also workers are payed shit wages compared to the US.

All of the other counties that have bullet trains are small in land area compared to the US

Is that our excuse for falling so far behind them ?

Who is going to pay for it? If the venture was profitable private industry would have already built one. Nothing the Government does is cost effective.

The US taxpayers will end up funding it. No train system has ever made money, but that doesn't stop the libs.

Build the wall. It will solved everything.

 

[westwall]

You keep pushing this meme that we are falling behind...it's the opposite, dude. They are behind us. We fly, they use a train.

Guess which is more technically advanced!

china has a city that the smog killed thousands of people each month (guess that was before they noticed that their population was sinking). They started out by replacing all the buses and trains with electrical ones. Then they replaced the trucks with electric one. They are in the process of getting rid of all the gas cars now and are almost done. Even the Taxis are now electric. Even with the primary power generation coming from Coal, the air is not the killer it once was. You now see people without the face masks. In may ways, we are ahead of china but in other ways, they are light years ahead of us.

And guess what, that is from all of those coal fired powerplants they are building.

Now, what powers high speed rail?

Most of the power still comes from Coal Fired Power Plants. But converting the electricity to automotive and transportation power ends up polluting less. In a large city with so many cars, trucks and trains, using fossil fuels to power your car/truck/bus is a double whammy.

It's the exact opposite. The problem is China doesn't care about its people. They are merely cogs. Cogs get replaced. China cares about cheap power so that's what they use. They also don't care about toxic sludge so that's why they are leaders in solar module production that are incredibly toxic to make.

Powerplants are the largest source of pollution. That is a fact. We control the pollution, they don't.

It's got to the point in china they are having to do something. It affects their health care and even their factory production. The US was well on it's way to turning the eastern and western seaboards into what china has now in their major cities. They are left with no choice when it hit's the pocket books of the Uber chinese rich and government. You really need to get out more.

Until the uber wealthy Chinese start dying, nothing will change. I will be traveling through China in a few months. Mainly hitting the hinterlands because I have already done all of the big cities.

 

[westwall]

Proving how little you know. Those ash dumps are over 100 years old. The Chinese are doing the same thing...only they're doing it now....when we know better.

Read the OP and stop making this about China.
It's about America losing.

America ain't losing. That's the whole point. Poor, backwards countries are forced to use antiquated technology.

Rich, advanced countries, fly.

 

[Markle]

The number of incidents over a quarter of a century looks trivial. In addition, what is the definition of an incident? Who defines all those pipelines as dangerous?

I would venture to say that no oil spill is trivial.
If you have a swimming pool, and someone poured a quart of motor oil into it
would you think it was no big deal ? ( and motor oil is much cleaner than crude oil )

False analogy. For it to be fair, you'd have to be talking about a tenth of a drop in an Olympic swimming pool.

 

[Markle]

China is a Communist country and doesn't give a shit about how much these things cost and how it affects the citizenry. Also workers are payed shit wages compared to the US.

All of the other counties that have bullet trains are small in land area compared to the US

Is that our excuse for falling so far behind them ?

What is their (other countries) excuse for falling behind us in their economy, medical advances, drug advances, aircraft development, space development, and the list goes on?

Why would we spend hundreds of billions of dollars on an impractical mode of transportation?

 

[Markle]

Sad.
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Actually, here is the Acela Express in our NE corridor.

 

[the other mike]

Sad.
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Actually, here is the Acela Express in our NE corridor.

Goes fast for about 30 miles ?

 

[Markle]

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Who is going to pay for it? If the venture was profitable private industry would have already built one. Nothing the Government does is cost effective.

Not flushing a trillion a year in the war on terror we created
would be a good start.

I can only presume you are being facetious. You simply cannot be serious.

 

[the other mike]

View attachment 260252

Who is going to pay for it? If the venture was profitable private industry would have already built one. Nothing the Government does is cost effective.

Not flushing a trillion a year in the war on terror we created
would be a good start.

I can only presume you are being facetious. You simply cannot be serious.

Dead serious. We obviously have two opposite perceptions of reality. Maybe you'll wake up some day.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

China is a Communist country and doesn't give a shit about how much these things cost and how it affects the citizenry. Also workers are payed shit wages compared to the US.

All of the other counties that have bullet trains are small in land area compared to the US

Is that our excuse for falling so far behind them ?

Who is going to pay for it? If the venture was profitable private industry would have already built one. Nothing the Government does is cost effective.

The US taxpayers will end up funding it. No train system has ever made money, but that doesn't stop the libs.

Build the wall. It will solved everything.

You have it mostly wrong. Freight makes money, oodles of money. It's Passenger Trains that don't do too well. And almost all of them are subsidized.