There Has Never Been A Greater Betrayal By A President

Sorry Champ, that's not part of the violent resistance to the transfer of power that Herr Donnie has inspired.

Nice Butwhatabout though....standard fare....Policing Riots diversion.

The year of violent insurgency by you Nazis is backed by the Nazi leadership inciting and fomenting insurrection, violence, and rioting.


  • "When you see a nation, an entire nation, simultaneously grappling with an extraordinary crisis seeded in 400 years of American racism, I'm sorry, that is not the same question as the understandably aggrieved store owner or the devout religious person who wants to go back to services." New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio justifying illegal street protests that violated social distancing norms while he restricted church services, 2020
  • "I can't imagine what it would look like if we said to people, 'Actually, you have to stay in. You have to ignore systemic racism—I'm sorry, just ignore it. Stay in.'" New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy justifying illegal street protests that violated social distancing norms while restricting church services, 2020
  • "As public health advocates, we do not condemn these gatherings as risky for COVID-19 transmission. We support them as vital to the national public health and to the threatened health specifically of black people in the United States." Twelve-hundred health and medical colleagues justifying illegal street protests that violated social distancing norms, 2020
  • "Destroying property, which can be replaced, is not violence." Nikole Hannah-Jones, New York Times journalist, 2020
  • "We don't have to finger-wag at protesters about property. That can be rebuilt." David Remnick, New Yorker journalist
  • "The notion that nonviolence is tactically more effective...has not only been proven wrong over the past week by sheer numbers; it cannot be historically supported." R.H. Lossin, Ph.D., The Nation magazine, 2020
  • "A siege [of the White House] only works if it is sustained. We witnessed this—the multiplying power of a strategic occupation—nine years ago. You dig in, hold your ground, and the tension accumulates, amplifies, goes global." Adbusters, the group that started Occupy Wall Street, 2020
 
I guess we'll wait and see what the violent stunt the MAGA crowd pulled off does for the GOP or DEMS in the next election. What will Americans think if they start more violence.

Well we know the violence the MASA crowd is engaging in.

Standard Disclaimer: MASA - Make America Suffer Again - the Quid Pro Biden slogan.

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i would guess that picture was taken within the past 4 years, meaning it occurred under Trump?

It is the democrat Brown Shirts who have engaged in a 10 month Kristalnacht.

That people have Burkas shows it is since the Wuhan Designer Virus was released against America.

Your Brown Shirts have engaged in a violent insurgency for nearly a year, incited by the Nazi democrat party.


  • "I need you to get out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors. I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face." Presidential candidate Barack Obama, 2008
  • "When they go low, we kick 'em. That's what this new Democratic Party is about." Former Attorney General Eric Holder, 2018
  • "Let's make sure we show up wherever we have to show up. And if you see anybody from that [Trump] Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and create a crowd. And you push back on them. And you tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere." Rep. Maxine Waters, 2018
  • "Please, get up in the face of some congresspeople." Sen. Cory Booker, 2020
  • "People will do what they do." House Speaker Nancy Pelosi commenting on violent protesters, 2020
  • "You know, there needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as there is unrest in our lives, and unfortunately there is plenty to go around." Rep. Ayanna Pressley, 2020
  • "They're [left-wing protesters] not gonna stop before Election Day in November and they're not gonna stop after Election Day. And that should be—everyone should take note of that on both levels, that this isn't, they're not gonna let up and they should not. And we should not." Sen. Kamala Harris, 2020
  • "And please, show me where it says protesters are supposed to be polite and peaceful." CNN host Chris Cuomo, 2020
  • "When you see a nation, an entire nation, simultaneously grappling with an extraordinary crisis seeded in 400 years of American racism, I'm sorry, that is not the same question as the understandably aggrieved store owner or the devout religious person who wants to go back to services." New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio justifying illegal street protests that violated social distancing norms while he restricted church services, 2020


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none of that is democratic leaders calling for any violence in 2020 (george floyd protests)

Here is some of the incitement of the capitol incident:


Lying Nazi fuck.

"They're [left-wing protesters] not gonna stop before Election Day in November and they're not gonna stop after Election Day. And that should be—everyone should take note of that on both levels, that this isn't, they're not gonna let up and they should not. And we should not." Sen. Kamala Harris, 2020

Harris MUST be impeached and removed.
 
Most all Democrats and Republicans arbore the violence.


Decent people abhor violence, democrats not so much.

"And please, show me where it says protesters are supposed to be polite and peaceful." CNN host Chris Cuomo, 2020

"Let's make sure we show up wherever we have to show up. And if you see anybody from that [Trump] Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and create a crowd. And you push back on them. And you tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere." Rep. Maxine Waters, 2018
 
About betrayal by a president as the OP asks ----

Does anyone else think Trump's speech last night, of which I watched a few minutes, basically throws all his supporters under the bus? They came because he called, they marched on the Capitol because he said to, and now he says it's all their fault.

Hmmmmmmmmmm.

Color me disappointed. :sad:

None of that is true.

The president called on Americans to PEACEFULLY and PATRIOTICALY demand congress uphold the laws of this nation. Nowhere did he say things like;

"You know, there needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as there is unrest in our lives, and unfortunately there is plenty to go around." Rep. Ayanna Pressley, 2020
 
Most all Democrats and Republicans arbore the violence.

They do? Then why did Democrat Mayors all across the country not stop it? Why did they refuse Trump's offer to stop it for them? Why did it go on in some cases for many months?

After the riot last week, I don't recall one Republican calling the riot the Winter of Love.

Yes, most Americans do not approve of the violence regardless of if it's anti-policing riots or a mob takeover of the Capitol building amidst a violent and deadly transfer of power
But you do and o can link to your posts that prove it.
 
Yes, most Americans do not approve of the violence regardless of if it's anti-policing riots or a mob takeover of the Capitol building amidst a violent and deadly transfer of power

Then why would Americans vote for democrats, for Nazis?

democrats praise and promote violence, incite and and foment insurrection and rioting.

"The notion that nonviolence is tactically more effective...has not only been proven wrong over the past week by sheer numbers; it cannot be historically supported." R.H. Lossin, Ph.D., The Nation magazine, 2020
 
Most all Democrats and Republicans arbore the violence.


Decent people abhor violence, democrats not so much.

"And please, show me where it says protesters are supposed to be polite and peaceful." CNN host Chris Cuomo, 2020

"Let's make sure we show up wherever we have to show up. And if you see anybody from that [Trump] Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and create a crowd. And you push back on them. And you tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere." Rep. Maxine Waters, 2018

Guess who "......rebuked fellow Democrat Rep. Maxine Waters on Monday for urging her supporters to confront Trump administration officials in their day-to-day lives.

The House Democratic leader’s censure of her colleague highlights the difficult choices Democratic leaders face as they try to leverage energized opposition to the Trump administration and take a House majority in November’s midterm elections. Pelosi has also refused to back efforts by Waters and others to impeach President Donald Trump, calling the push “divisive.”

In a tweeted statement Monday referencing Waters’ comments, Pelosi said that “Trump’s daily lack of civility has provoked responses that are predictable but unacceptable.” She added: “As we go forward, we must conduct elections in a way that achieves unity from sea to shining sea.”


What else ya got Grumpybear?
 
Most all Democrats and Republicans arbore the violence.

They do? Then why did Democrat Mayors all across the country not stop it? Why did they refuse Trump's offer to stop it for them? Why did it go on in some cases for many months?

After the riot last week, I don't recall one Republican calling the riot the Winter of Love.

Yes, most Americans do not approve of the violence regardless of if it's anti-policing riots or a mob takeover of the Capitol building amidst a violent and deadly transfer of power
But you do and o can link to your posts that prove it.

If you feel Froggy, go ahead and jump.
 
SOP for the POS.

And what is SOP for you Nazis?

"A siege [of the White House] only works if it is sustained. We witnessed this—the multiplying power of a strategic occupation—nine years ago. You dig in, hold your ground, and the tension accumulates, amplifies, goes global." Adbusters, the group that started Occupy Wall Street, 2020

See, for you there was no siege of the White House in July. The party has erased it. It is no longer useful to the party, so for you it never happened. There is no yesterday or tomorrow for party members, only the eternal now that is defined by the party for the benefit of the party.

All the violence your Brown Shirts have engaged in;

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To you it never happened. You don't just lie about it, in your very soul it never happened because the party has decided that it didn't - and the party defines reality for you.

2+2=5 and no one can convince you otherwise, the party is all that matters.
 
How many hours did Trump just sit there watching it on Live TV while Pence, his aids, even his family were trying to reach him and get him to say something to stop it?

I give up? How many hours? And what was he supposed to say, and to who and how? Go down to the Capitol and drop down out of a helicopter? Over Twitter? Facebook? CNN? Trump didn't incite no riot, these people did what they did because they WANTED TO because folks are plain SICK AND TIRED of the liars and shit sandwich which is the Democrat Party. The Democrats had to know running so bizarre and totally unaccountable an election would have this result--- they only cared about creating as many paper ballots as possible, counting anything with a B for Biden check mark on it and winning, then quashing all efforts to have a serious and formal examination of all the malfeasance.


I won't address the rest of it, it's B.S.
You won't because you can't. There are 10,000 things WRONG and inexplicable about this election.


Trump is not a victim. Nor are his followers.
Trump was treated with contempt and total disrespect befitting any president starting DAY ONE with his inauguration. All of America is the victim now for being cheated out of a fair and aboveboard election people can believe is at least as legit as other ones, which ain't saying much. The year of 2020 was one long act of insurrection against America by Democrats.

Now just imagine if some GOP senator starts putting up bail for the arrested rioters just as Kamela Harris did for the violent rioters and looters of last summer terrorizing the nation?
 
About betrayal by a president as the OP asks ----

Does anyone else think Trump's speech last night, of which I watched a few minutes, basically throws all his supporters under the bus? They came because he called, they marched on the Capitol because he said to, and now he says it's all their fault.

Hmmmmmmmmmm.

Color me disappointed. :sad:


Look, I didn't hear the speech but let's be clear about a few things:

  1. The Democrats have dissed this guy, insulted him, lied about him, ridiculed him, pushed him, bullied him, threatened him since DAY ONE before he even took office. They wanted him to blow his top, claimed he'd blow his top, and never let up until they finally got what they wanted. The Democrats are the political equivalent of the social media bully that causes someone else to finally take their life in a last ditch effort to escape the non-stop torment. NO president has ever had to take the mile-deep shit they put this guy through. And through it all, the guy accomplished an amazing list of great things.
  2. I watched the rally and never once heard him say anything that I took as him trying, intending or wanting a "coup" or "insurrection." When the speech was over, I expected those people to march down there and protest like most protesters do, as they originally started--- waving flags and signs and chanting supporting words for Trump or Pence, or for the Congress to really review the evidence of fraud or something. Just this morning PBS again confirmed it started that way then a mob came from another direction from the House side and started yelling and firing things up and started trying to force their way in.
  3. If Trump has seen what I've seen, and I assume he knows a lot more, then he is justified in believing he is the real winner of the election and it has been stolen from him. So the coup has already happened, what happened on Jan 6 wasn't an insurrection but an attempt to stop a coup in progress and the media has predictably totally buried the real truth behind the matter. As such, I wouldn't blame him for finding a little sweet justice in his final act as president ending up blowing up Nancy Pelosi's world after her blowing his up for four solid years.
  4. Trump is a passionate guy and just as the Left and people like Obumma, Bernie and AOC have their own following of nutjobs, no doubt there are some nutjobs who follow Trump or use his following as an umbrella or justification to launch their own crazy activities. No one can predict or control such people and if a crazy goes off following watching a movie or a speech to commit some crazy act, if Trump is to be held accountable and blamed for these people, then we must hold accountable and blame every retailer if they sell a tool or a weapon and the buyer then goes off and does something illegal with it.
  5. I don't think Trump intended or wanted what happened. Whatever Trump said, he said against the people who went in there and broke windows and property and hurt people or stole things, and they should not be conflated with Trump's real supporters. Nancy and the media have built Trump up into this toxic maniac and so along with him, everyone and thing connected with him! But the Trump that Trump ended up being, at least from what the media allows us to hear and see, is exactly what the Democrats have been trying to build him into since 2016. NONE of this crap ever would have happened if the Democrats wouldn't have FORCED this crazy election down our throats with its highly specious outcome then added fuel to the fire by totally quashing all efforts to really investigate it what REALLY happened and how.
Trump didn't make this, where America is today is 100% the doing of the Democrats and they are still at it pushing ahead still trying to stick a dagger in this guy even after winning the election and only days away from taking over. They want Trump's head, then they want to destroy his family, then they want to ruin his businesses, burn his home down and drive him out of the country. They want to deny him what all presidents get out of office. Six months from now, they will still be following him, suing him, trying to beat him in court and celebrating. The Left are totally unhinged, they are the real terrorists, and their insanity has brought America to where it stands today.

January 6 was less of an insurrection and all about a repudiation of what the Left are doing to this country.



"I don't think Trump intended or wanted what happened."

How many hours did Trump just sit there watching it on Live TV while Pence, his aids, even his family were trying to reach him and get him to say something to stop it?

I won't address the rest of it, it's B.S. Trump is not a victim. Nor are his followers. Trump has made a life time career out of destroying and attacking other people through lies, disinformation and out right bullying. His chickens are coming home to roost.


It was horrible how the President said; "Please, get up in the face of some congresspeople."

Oh wait, that was fucking Cory Booker inciting violence at the Kavanaugh hearings.

But the party has erased that - so for you it never happened, only the eternal now that is controlled by the party exists for party members. All the violence your Brown Shirts have engaged in over the last year is erased from existence as it doesn't serve the party.
 
Then why would Americans vote for democrats, for Nazis?

democrats praise and promote violence, incite and and foment insurrection and rioting.

Because most Americans don't believe you and your ilk.

I understand that reality is fluid for you, that nothing is set, yesterday can be rewritten to serve the party and you will believe it with your entire being.

For the rational, this is abhorrent;

You know, there needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as there is unrest in our lives, and unfortunately there is plenty to go around." Rep. Ayanna Pressley, 2020

But for party members like you it unhappened as the party no longer sees it as advantageous, so the party rewrote your reality and you instantly adapted to the reality the party placed before you. What you believe now you may believe the opposite of in a day, as the goals of the party shift. You will believe the new reality just as firmly as you believe now, because the party controls what and who you are.
 
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See, for you there was no siege of the White House in July. The party has erased it. It is no longer useful to the party, so for you it never happened.

There were nearly 200 arrests during the violence that erupted during the Floyd protests.

I imagine there will be more arrests for the Trump Capitol event.
 
It was horrible how the President said; "Please, get up in the face of some congresspeople."
Oh wait, that was fucking Cory Booker inciting violence at the Kavanaugh hearings.


For four years, we had Democrats like Maxine Watters encouraging and explicitly inciting crowds to confront anyone in a red hat and we ended up with four years of terrorism where one democrat was incited to shoot Scalise in a ball-field, the guy at the Hotel that shot all those people below at a concert-- -- a Democrat, assaulting people on the street for wearing ball-caps, harassing them in restaurants, following them out into the street, now trying to get people fired from jobs, blocked from flying, banned from social media, doxxing businesses of their advertisers---- all the work of Democrats.
 
there needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as there is unrest in our lives


"This is as much about public outcry and organizing and mobilizing and applying pressure so that this GOP-led Senate and these governors that continue to carry water for this administration, putting the American people in harm’s way, turning a deaf ear to the needs of our families and our communities — hold them accountable," she said.

"Make the phone calls, send the emails, show up," she added. "You know, there needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as there’s unrest in our lives."

Pressley received swift backlash with critics accusing her of condoning lawlessness. Pressley said she didn’t expect that reaction.

"There are moments in real time when you’re offering something — on a stage in a dais, in an interview — where you become aware: ‘I’m going to experience a lot of vitriol for this,’" Pressley recalled about her comment in a Jan. 3 USA Today article. "I have to say, for this particular moment, I had not anticipated that, because it was a framing that I have used many times before."

There was no indication Pressley necessarily meant anything other than peaceful protest.
 
See, for you there was no siege of the White House in July. The party has erased it. It is no longer useful to the party, so for you it never happened.

There were nearly 200 arrests during the violence that erupted during the Floyd protests.

I imagine there will be more arrests for the Trump Capitol event.

Catch and release.

Nearly zero prosecutions related to the violence by the democrat Brown Shirts.

And you still pretend the siege of the white house by democrat troops didn't occur.

The Nazi party declared it unhappened - so for you it is erased from reality.
 
There were nearly 200 arrests during the violence that erupted during the Floyd protests.

I imagine there will be more arrests for the Trump Capitol event.

Better get a better source for your claims. There were over 550 arrests in Minneapolis alone during the Floyd riots.

How many people have been arrested during George Floyd protests?
AP tally finds 9,300 arrests have been made across the US in connection with recent protests against police brutality.

 
there needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as there is unrest in our lives


"This is as much about public outcry and organizing and mobilizing and applying pressure so that this GOP-led Senate and these governors that continue to carry water for this administration, putting the American people in harm’s way, turning a deaf ear to the needs of our families and our communities — hold them accountable," she said.

"Make the phone calls, send the emails, show up," she added. "You know, there needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as there’s unrest in our lives."

Pressley received swift backlash with critics accusing her of condoning lawlessness. Pressley said she didn’t expect that reaction.

"There are moments in real time when you’re offering something — on a stage in a dais, in an interview — where you become aware: ‘I’m going to experience a lot of vitriol for this,’" Pressley recalled about her comment in a Jan. 3 USA Today article. "I have to say, for this particular moment, I had not anticipated that, because it was a framing that I have used many times before."

There was no indication Pressley necessarily meant anything other than peaceful protest.


Ah, the Baghdad Bobs of the Nazi propaganda corps making excuses for a party member inciting riots and violence.

"We take an oath to protect and defend the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic. And sadly, the domestic enemies to our voting system and honoring our Constitution are right at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue with their allies in the Congress of the United States. But again, let’s just get out there and mobilize, organize, and not let the President deter anybody from voting. And again, support the postal system, which is election central. They’re doing everything they can, suppress the vote with their actions, scare people, intimidate by saying law enforcement will be there, diminish the role of the postal system and all of this. It’s shameful, enemies of the state.” - Nazi leader, Nancy Pigshit
 

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