There is No Fix: “The Entire System Will Detonate Within the First Year”

[bripat9643]

The Dims are hoping they can recover from this mess. It ain't going to happen. They'll be the minority party for the next 50 years, at least.

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We’ve got a serious problem on our hands and it’s one that many Obamacare apologists refuse to admit.

The Patient Affordable Care Act is an unprecedented catastrophe in the making.

While millions of Americans are losing their health care coverage within weeks, the health care exchanges advocated by Obamacare supporters are in shambles. So far, a little over 100,000 people have signed up. Moreover, what’s important to understand is that none of these people have yet paid a premium, so in essence, those are preliminary numbers. When the monthly bill comes due, we’ll see how many people actually have the money to pay the exorbitant new rates.

The key problem is one of basic arithmetic.

Remember, what this legislation does is it robs from Paul to pay Peter. This means that the whole system is essentially a pyramid scheme that depends on one group of people paying the premium for those who are the beneficiaries of this “free” and “affordable” insurance.

As we know all too well, the new rates for those who have to pay into the system are double or triple their previous insurance premiums – and those newly minted rates actually stand to double again because there is not enough money in the system to provide coverage for everyone.

We can sum this up in two words: Unmitigated Disaster.

And just so we’re clear, we’re not talking about these issues rearing their head a decade or so down the road.

We’re talking about mere months before the whole thing falls apart.

The scary thing? When it crumbles, the broader economy goes with it. ​

 

[JoeNormal]

There's little doubt in my mind that our system will collapse before long but it won't be Obamacare that brings it down. It'll be corporate and Wall Street greed, the continuing downward spiral of profits over people and the absurd wealth disparity that will grow unabated.

 

[bripat9643]

There's little doubt in my mind that our system will collapse before long but it won't be Obamacare that brings it down. It'll be corporate and Wall Street greed, the continuing downward spiral of profits over people and the absurd wealth disparity that will grow unabated.

Communists have been saying that for 150 years.

 

[JoeNormal]

There's little doubt in my mind that our system will collapse before long but it won't be Obamacare that brings it down. It'll be corporate and Wall Street greed, the continuing downward spiral of profits over people and the absurd wealth disparity that will grow unabated.

Communists have been saying that for 150 years.

Maybe but the commies weren't wrong about everything. What's your point, that we're still here? We're in line for a 30's style reboot that puts the ordinary citizen back into the system.

 

[Plasmaball]

next 50 years? thats some strong crack you are smoking

 

[OnePercenter]

The need for ACA is what happens when you deregulate.

 

[TemplarKormac]

The need for ACA is what happens when you deregulate.

Come again? What does one have to do with the other?

 

[Trajan]

politics forum folks....

 

[Black_Label]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh! We'RE all gunna die! Death panels and mass graves! Run for your lives!

 

[NYcarbineer]

The modern day rightwing is beginning to make the fluoride-in-water! nuts of the 50's rightwing look downright tame.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

 

[CrusaderFrank]

There's little doubt in my mind that our system will collapse before long but it won't be Obamacare that brings it down. It'll be corporate and Wall Street greed, the continuing downward spiral of profits over people and the absurd wealth disparity that will grow unabated.

Try paying attention to current event

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The need for ACA is what happens when you deregulate.

What was "deregulated"?

Do you know what the word means

 

[Trajan]

The modern day rightwing is beginning to make the fluoride-in-water! nuts of the 50's rightwing look downright tame.

It takes real balls ( and a fair amount of koolaid) for a guy to make a statement like that on the back of the worst product roll-out since the Edsel.....



and...... because the morons that voted for obamacare didn't read it and are now shocked as in Claude Raines shocked, that its doing EXACTLY what it was intended and designed to do; separate money from middle class folks and youngens to finance oldsters on such a scale that it was bound to hurt.

Wrap your head around this; obama is in a box, the plan has to work this way or its a giant fail......and will require massive injections of federal taxpayer money directly, obliterating that $900 Bn budget neutral BS, completely wiping out the bill as its written.

His postponement, didn't do a thing, people will ask ok, so what happens in 2014? Exactly the same thing that is happening now, that is the answer, the problem did not and will not go away........ all this nonsense did was get him past a news-cycle and stop an embarrassing repudiation of the main pillar of how the plan has got to work by his very own party.

 

[The Rabbi]

There's little doubt in my mind that our system will collapse before long but it won't be Obamacare that brings it down. It'll be corporate and Wall Street greed, the continuing downward spiral of profits over people and the absurd wealth disparity that will grow unabated.

How do increased profits cause the collapse of a system? Yeah, I know there I go asking questions you can't answer or have to make shit up for.
But really just once I'd like to see a lib who can formulate a statement and defend it coherently without ranting about
-Income inequality
-Wall St
-Corporations
-Bush
-The Tea Party
-Deregulation.

 

[Jackson]

The modern day rightwing is beginning to make the fluoride-in-water! nuts of the 50's rightwing look downright tame.

It takes real balls ( and a fair amount of koolaid) for a guy to make a statement like that on the back of the worst product roll-out since the Edsel.....



and...... because the morons that voted for obamacare didn't read it and are now shocked as in Claude Raines shocked, that its doing EXACTLY what it was intended and designed to do; separate money from middle class folks and youngens to finance oldsters on such a scale that it was bound to hurt.

Wrap your head around this; obama is in a box, the plan has to work this way or its a giant fail......and will require massive injections of federal taxpayer money directly, obliterating that $900 Bn budget neutral BS, completely wiping out the bill as its written.

His postponement, didn't do a thing, people will ask ok, so what happens in 2014? Exactly the same thing that is happening now, that is the answer, the problem did not and will not go away........ all this nonsense did was get him past a news-cycle and stop an embarrassing repudiation of the main pillar of how the plan has got to work by his very own party.

Actually, this could cause an early demise because Obamacare won't be getting the high premiums they has planned to get in 2013 and early 2014. If the people are paying the lower premiums, they won't be giving the kitty the money to pay for the people who are using the insurance.

 

[bripat9643]

The modern day rightwing is beginning to make the fluoride-in-water! nuts of the 50's rightwing look downright tame.

It takes real balls ( and a fair amount of koolaid) for a guy to make a statement like that on the back of the worst product roll-out since the Edsel.....



and...... because the morons that voted for obamacare didn't read it and are now shocked as in Claude Raines shocked, that its doing EXACTLY what it was intended and designed to do; separate money from middle class folks and youngens to finance oldsters on such a scale that it was bound to hurt.

Wrap your head around this; obama is in a box, the plan has to work this way or its a giant fail......and will require massive injections of federal taxpayer money directly, obliterating that $900 Bn budget neutral BS, completely wiping out the bill as its written.

His postponement, didn't do a thing, people will ask ok, so what happens in 2014? Exactly the same thing that is happening now, that is the answer, the problem did not and will not go away........ all this nonsense did was get him past a news-cycle and stop an embarrassing repudiation of the main pillar of how the plan has got to work by his very own party.

Actually, this could cause an early demise because Obamacare won't be getting the high premiums they has planned to get in 2013 and early 2014. If the people are paying the lower premiums, they won't be giving the kitty the money to pay for the people who are using the insurance.

Yep. there won't be any money to pay the premiums for illegal aliens.

 

[AVG-JOE]

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Bet you a dollar that The Constitution is still here when you're gone.

 

[FA_Q2]

The modern day rightwing is beginning to make the fluoride-in-water! nuts of the 50's rightwing look downright tame.

It takes real balls ( and a fair amount of koolaid) for a guy to make a statement like that on the back of the worst product roll-out since the Edsel.....



and...... because the morons that voted for obamacare didn't read it and are now shocked as in Claude Raines shocked, that its doing EXACTLY what it was intended and designed to do; separate money from middle class folks and youngens to finance oldsters on such a scale that it was bound to hurt.

Wrap your head around this; obama is in a box, the plan has to work this way or its a giant fail......and will require massive injections of federal taxpayer money directly, obliterating that $900 Bn budget neutral BS, completely wiping out the bill as its written.

His postponement, didn't do a thing, people will ask ok, so what happens in 2014? Exactly the same thing that is happening now, that is the answer, the problem did not and will not go away........ all this nonsense did was get him past a news-cycle and stop an embarrassing repudiation of the main pillar of how the plan has got to work by his very own party.

Actually, this could cause an early demise because Obamacare won't be getting the high premiums they has planned to get in 2013 and early 2014. If the people are paying the lower premiums, they won't be giving the kitty the money to pay for the people who are using the insurance.

Then they will just dip back into the government coffers. Remember that the admin is running with the idea that 2009 trillion dollar debts are the standard. I think that the likely outcome is that they will eventually try and raise the subsidies to compensate for the increased premiums (which is likely to start getting worse as more and more usage becomes the norm). Then they can once again frame the arguments that the right is against the poor and middle class – an argument that the right continually loses.

 

[lakeview]

The Dims are hoping they can recover from this mess. It ain't going to happen. They'll be the minority party for the next 50 years, at least.

There's a very easy way out of this for the Democrats, blame the black guy. I'm not kidding either, that's exactly what they'll do because it's the only thing they can do.