"They don't want people to know what's going on here" - no citizens allowed.

[koshergrl]

So border patrol will stop and turn back lawmakers and reporters...but not illegals.

It puts me in mind of the way the Jews were shuffled around to hide what was going on with them:

"While in McAllen, Texas, TheBlaze made multiple requests to have access to the facilities where illegals are being held. Border Patrol spokesman Joe Gutierrez said all requests needed to be approved by senior DHS officials in Washington, D.C., and all were denied. A tour of a facility in Brownsville, Texas, was given to reporters who were forbidden from speaking to agents or immigrants...
Border Patrol agent Chris Cabrera said supervisors in his sector cleared more than 200 illegal immigrants being detained in the sally port, a garage used to load and unload illegal immigrants, last Wednesday when a group of bipartisan senior lawmakers made a planned visit to the McAllen Border Patrol station."

"
“It even frustrated some of the mid-level management,” Cabrera said of the order by DHS officials to move the illegals the night before the congressional visit. “How are we supposed to get any help out here if we’re hiding the facts from the people who are supposed to be here to help us?”
The clamp down by DHS on information and access in the Rio Grande Valley is also being being felt at Fort Sill, Oklahoma, where more than 1,000 unaccompanied minors, mainly from Central America, are being housed."

"
“It is unacceptable that any representative of the people be limited to pre-planned, showcased visits to a facility so critical to the well-being of children,” he wrote. “Ordinary Americans have a right to know what is happening in these facilities, how the children are being treated, and what is being done to stop this human tragedy.”
Border Patrol Official: DHS Ordered Illegal Immigrant Holding Facility ?Cleared Out? Before Congressional Visit | TheBlaze.com

 

[Siete]

So border patrol will stop and turn back lawmakers and reporters...but not illegals.

It puts me in mind of the way the Jews were shuffled around to hide what was going on with them:

"While in McAllen, Texas, TheBlaze made multiple requests to have access to the facilities where illegals are being held. Border Patrol spokesman Joe Gutierrez said all requests needed to be approved by senior DHS officials in Washington, D.C., and all were denied. A tour of a facility in Brownsville, Texas, was given to reporters who were forbidden from speaking to agents or immigrants...
Border Patrol agent Chris Cabrera said supervisors in his sector cleared more than 200 illegal immigrants being detained in the sally port, a garage used to load and unload illegal immigrants, last Wednesday when a group of bipartisan senior lawmakers made a planned visit to the McAllen Border Patrol station."




"
“It even frustrated some of the mid-level management,” Cabrera said of the order by DHS officials to move the illegals the night before the congressional visit. “How are we supposed to get any help out here if we’re hiding the facts from the people who are supposed to be here to help us?”
The clamp down by DHS on information and access in the Rio Grande Valley is also being being felt at Fort Sill, Oklahoma, where more than 1,000 unaccompanied minors, mainly from Central America, are being housed."

"
“It is unacceptable that any representative of the people be limited to pre-planned, showcased visits to a facility so critical to the well-being of children,” he wrote. “Ordinary Americans have a right to know what is happening in these facilities, how the children are being treated, and what is being done to stop this human tragedy.”
Border Patrol Official: DHS Ordered Illegal Immigrant Holding Facility ?Cleared Out? Before Congressional Visit | TheBlaze.com

exactly what course of action can "citizens" take to help solve the problem?

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

Wow.. they're moving them right before a Congressional visit.. This Administration is sick, truly sick

 

[koshergrl]

The Nazis did the same thing.

Of course, they took them in trucks and either gassed them or took them out in the woods and shot them.

 

[koshergrl]

So border patrol will stop and turn back lawmakers and reporters...but not illegals.

It puts me in mind of the way the Jews were shuffled around to hide what was going on with them:

"While in McAllen, Texas, TheBlaze made multiple requests to have access to the facilities where illegals are being held. Border Patrol spokesman Joe Gutierrez said all requests needed to be approved by senior DHS officials in Washington, D.C., and all were denied. A tour of a facility in Brownsville, Texas, was given to reporters who were forbidden from speaking to agents or immigrants...
Border Patrol agent Chris Cabrera said supervisors in his sector cleared more than 200 illegal immigrants being detained in the sally port, a garage used to load and unload illegal immigrants, last Wednesday when a group of bipartisan senior lawmakers made a planned visit to the McAllen Border Patrol station."




"
“It even frustrated some of the mid-level management,” Cabrera said of the order by DHS officials to move the illegals the night before the congressional visit. “How are we supposed to get any help out here if we’re hiding the facts from the people who are supposed to be here to help us?”
The clamp down by DHS on information and access in the Rio Grande Valley is also being being felt at Fort Sill, Oklahoma, where more than 1,000 unaccompanied minors, mainly from Central America, are being housed."

"
“It is unacceptable that any representative of the people be limited to pre-planned, showcased visits to a facility so critical to the well-being of children,” he wrote. “Ordinary Americans have a right to know what is happening in these facilities, how the children are being treated, and what is being done to stop this human tragedy.”
Border Patrol Official: DHS Ordered Illegal Immigrant Holding Facility ?Cleared Out? Before Congressional Visit | TheBlaze.com

exactly what course of action can "citizens" take to help solve the problem?

What problem? So far, nobody in the admin has admitted to a problem. These citizens, who are representatives of the people and members of our free press, simply want to be able to see the conditions the children are being kept in and watch the operations inside the camps, so they can be assured that there are no abuses, and then reassure the public of the same.

These are public facilities that are housing children, and our administration, though it allows criminals and illegals access to those kids, is denying the same access to our elected representatives and our press. That is an old, old tactic of totalitarian regimes.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Just wait for 2014 midterms.

 

[bodecea]

Just wait for 2014 midterms.

Oh we are...we are.

 

[Skylar]

So border patrol will stop and turn back lawmakers and reporters...but not illegals.

Its a youth facility. If you want to view it, get an appointment. But showing up at the door and demanding to be let in isn't how it works.

And the DHS offered the congressman who did exactly that an appointment. He refused.

 

[Bush92]

Immigration bill is Democratic plot, House conservative says - CNN.com

Because here's the truth.

 

[RandallFlagg]

There is one thing that needs to be understood here. Obama (the Dictator) doesn't give two hoots in hell about the "people" OR their representatives. He has made that ABUNDANTLY clear time after time.

This, in case you haven't noticed, is HIS kingdom and he will run it as HE sees fit.


All Hail Obama!!!




Seig Heil!!

 

[Skylar]

These are public facilities that are housing children, and our administration, though it allows criminals and illegals access to those kids, is denying the same access to our elected representatives and our press.

The illegals 'allowed access' are either 1) the kids at the facility themselves or 2) Their parents.

Who they don't allow time with all the little boys and girls is any random stranger that shows up at the door demanding to be let in.

 

[Skylar]

There is one thing that needs to be understood here. Obama (the Dictator) doesn't give two hoots in hell about the "people" OR their representatives. He has made that ABUNDANTLY clear time after time.

I don't think dictator means what you think it means. Obama is asking congress to change the law that is forcing the government to house these children.

Generally asking for a law to be changed is utterly unnecessary for a dictator. As they have absolute power over everything.

 

[RandallFlagg]

These are public facilities that are housing children, and our administration, though it allows criminals and illegals access to those kids, is denying the same access to our elected representatives and our press.

The illegals 'allowed access' are either 1) the kids at the facility themselves or 2) Their parents.

Who they don't allow time with all the little boys and girls is any random stranger that shows up at the door demanding to be let in.

Give it up genius. You've been drinking too much Nazi Kool-Aid. A Congressman is NOT a "Random stranger" you twit.

 

[Skylar]

Immigration bill is Democratic plot, House conservative says - CNN.com

Because here's the truth.

House conservatives making up batshyte conspiracies backed by nothing?!

You don't say.

Guess Rubio is in on the plot too then, huh fellas?

 

[koshergrl]

So border patrol will stop and turn back lawmakers and reporters...but not illegals.

Its a youth facility. If you want to view it, get an appointment. But showing up at the door and demanding to be let in isn't how it works.

And the DHS offered the congressman who did exactly that an appointment. He refused.

Making the representatives of the people wait 2 weeks to allow for time to move kids out of holding pens, and refusing to allow the press in except for carefully staged walk throughs isn't how we do it in this country.

Until now.

This is how the Nazis, the Iranians, and the Chinese... do things. It's how people with something to hide do things. It's how regimes who are engaging in human rights offenses do things.

That's your kinda admin, I take it.

 

[whitehall]

Everything is a secret to this administration. How can they keep a Congressman out of an area run by the federal government? Who has the authority to turn a Congressman away, a square badge security guard, a Sgt or a Lt. in the BLM or the Border Patrol? If there was a problem on a Military base you can bet your ass that heads would roll if they tried to keep a Congressman out. They get away with this shit because the GOP is too timid to make waves and the media is in the administration's back pocket.

 

[Skylar]

Give it up genius. You've been drinking too much Nazi Kool-Aid. A Congressman is NOT a "Random stranger" you twit.

If any congressman has access to any government facility with no notice and no approval from anyone running the facility, then it will be remarkably easy for you to show us where that's mentioned anywhere in our system of law.

If however, you're just making shyte up without the slightest clue what you're talking about, we'll get excuses involving 'kool-aid' and 'nazis' for why you can't possibly back up such a claim.

Gee, I wonder which you'll do.

 

[Skylar]

Making the representatives of the people wait 2 weeks to allow for time to move kids out of holding pens, and refusing to allow the press in except for carefully staged walk throughs isn't how we do it in this country.

A representative of the people has no direct authority over the DHS or the executive branch. Being a congressman doesn't give him special and exclusive access to all the little boys and girls in federal custody.

If he wants to visit the facility, he can call up the folks running it and arrange an appointment to do so. Like a grown up might. Rather than just showing up with no notice (but with a camera, of course) and demanding to be let in.....then throwing a little tantrum when he's told he'll need to make an appointment.

 

[RandallFlagg]

Give it up genius. You've been drinking too much Nazi Kool-Aid. A Congressman is NOT a "Random stranger" you twit.

If any congressman has access to any government facility with no notice and no approval from anyone running the facility, then it will be remarkably easy for you to show us where that's mentioned anywhere in our system of law.

If however, you're just making shyte up without the slightest clue what you're talking about, we'll get excuses involving 'kool-aid' and 'nazis' for why you can't possibly back up such a claim.

Gee, I wonder which you'll do.

Show me the LAW where it states that a CONGRESSMAN has to make an APPOINTMENT to enter ANY government facility. Especially a facility that is in the Congressman's HOME STATE.

Do us all a favor and wake the hell up, will you? Licking Obama's boots isn't becoming.....

 

[koshergrl]

These are public facilities that are housing children, and our administration, though it allows criminals and illegals access to those kids, is denying the same access to our elected representatives and our press.

The illegals 'allowed access' are either 1) the kids at the facility themselves or 2) Their parents.

Who they don't allow time with all the little boys and girls is any random stranger that shows up at the door demanding to be let in.

Wrong.

Anybody can show up and claim they are family, and take the kids. They are sending the kids off to *family* without checking to see if they really are *family*. They are allowing human traffickers, sex trade bosses, gang members, to pick up kids who are sick, mentally ill, and suicidal, just on their say-so that they are *related*..but they won't allow our credentialed press or elected representatives inside the facilities, even to take pictures or just interview people.

Disgusting. They will allow the little boys and girls to leave with known criminals, but they won't allow the people who would expose this horror to take a picture of the inside of the facilities.

Highly suspect...transporting large numbers of kids immediately prior to scheduled "walk throughs". The Nazis and the commies did this as well. THOSE detainees ended up in mass graves.