Think You Know Who Won WWII?

[PoliticalChic]

What a load of bullshit! But that is what is expected of PompousCheek! Your idol hated Marxism.

"On the day when Marxism is smashed in Germany, its fetters are in truth broken forever. For never in our history have we been conquered because of the strength of our opponents, but always only because of our own vices and because of the enemies in our own camp."
-Adolf Hitler

Early Nazi posters included the hammer and sickle with the swastika.


So did many of the memorials they built in Poland after both Hitler and Stalin attacked in 1939.


Dunce.

A number of people including Americans did not believe Hitler during that period of history. Hitler even lied to the Germany people him, telling them all sorts of whoppers simply to get them to follow him? The sad thing is that it seems some Americans still believe in things Hitler said, and use Hitler's quotes as coming from that great swastika in the sky. Who would have dreamed that after all these years we would be telling people that Hitler lied.

The German people???

Really?


These German people:


On March 12, 1938, Hitler’s troops rolled over the border from Germany, into Austria. This was the Anschluss, the annexation of Austria into Greater Germany. Three days later, Hitler entered Vienna, greeted by an enthusiastic crowd of up to one million people. A plebiscite was held in less than a month, and 99.7% of Austrians voted to join the Third Reich.

They 'believed lies' that really smart guys like you wouldn't believe?
Really funny from a guy who believes so many of the Rooseveltian lies.






“It isn't so much that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so.”


― Ronald Reagan

 

[PoliticalChic]

Jake gets reflexively defensive whenever anyone attacks: Obama, ObamaCare, Communists and Communism; that's how you can tell he's a real "Republican Moderate"

Include Roosevelt in that.

 

[PoliticalChic]

did we really win? what exactly did we win? the cost of the Korean war? the Vietnam war? Yugoslavia? Afghanistan? Iraq? the cold war? the cost of protecting Europe and japan? the cost of rebuilding them? the cost of all of our other police actions and massive foreign aid when we can't even take care of our own people? Is Russia $17,000,000,000,000 in debt and counting? do we really have the freedoms we claim we have? our government spies on us just as much as Russia. our government takes away our freedoms when they need to for their own advantage. hell they even have liberals willingly helping them to do so.

Can we add this?


1. Government control of private sector activity...is aptly described as Bolshevik- or Marxist, socialist, collectivist, statist, or, for that matter, fascist, too. Indeed, nationalized health care was one of the first programs enacted by the Bolsheviks after they seized power in 1917 (Banks, insurance companies and means of communications were also taken over by Soviet authorities immediately.
Dziewanowski, "A History of Soviet Russia," p. 107.



2. Obama wasn't the first Bolshevik to support socialized medicine. For context, there was Henry Sigerist:
"He devoted himself to the study of history of medicine. Socialized Medicine in the Soviet Union (1937), and History of Medicine were among his most important works. He emerged as a major spokesman for "compulsory health insurance". ...He attacked the American Medical Association because of his conflicting views on socialized medicine." Henry E. Sigerist - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. And, Sigerist was one of the apologists for Stalin, including his state-engineered famine in the Ukraine. 7 million perished
(The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century: Stalin's Forced Famine 1932-33).

b. Sigerist "shared with the architects of Soviet health policy under Stalin an outlook best described as medical totalitarianism. He really believed that humanity would be better off if every individual were under the medical supervision of the state from cradle to grave....[and] Sigerist's belief in the necessity for state control over all aspects of medicine ultimately made him an apologist for state control over most aspects of human life."
Fee and Brown, eds. "Making Medical History: The Life and Times of Henry E. Sigerist," p. 252

 

[Camp]

Early Nazi posters included the hammer and sickle with the swastika.


So did many of the memorials they built in Poland after both Hitler and Stalin attacked in 1939.


Dunce.

I would like to see that hammer and sickle with swastika poster. Do you have a source?

Of course I do!!



- The Soviet Story (Docu) - Full Movie / English - LivingScoop

The Soviet Story," an award winning documentary clarifying the close and personal attachments of Hitler's Nazis and Stalin's Communists.
"Soviet Story" is the most powerful antidote yet to the sanitisation of the past. The film is gripping, audacious and uncompromising. [...] The main aim of the film is to show the close connections—philosophical, political and organisational—between the Nazi and Soviet systems." Europe.view: Telling the Soviet story | The Economist

Your link requires watching an 85 minute propaganda film. Are you kidding? You make the claim that a hammer and sickle appear on a Nazi poster but can not provide an image? Why in the world would anyone who is familiar with your sources trust that this image will appear in a film in such a way as to make your point valid? Is there no better link? Is there a genuine image or is this a misrepresentation of some sort? I have ones with the swastika shown with a worker and hammer during the time they were trying to lure communist workers into the party, but I have never seen one with the communist hammer and sickle symbol. There is a poster attacking both the swastika and the hammer and sickle symbols with spear symbols attacking the symbols by a third nationalist party. I'm not going to watch an 85 minute propaganda film loaded with images of dead bodies (yes, I checked out the first few minutes) and obvious propaganda just to learn you are once again misrepresenting and distorting information.

 

[Unkotare]

I would like to see that hammer and sickle with swastika poster. Do you have a source?

Of course I do!!



- The Soviet Story (Docu) - Full Movie / English - LivingScoop

The Soviet Story," an award winning documentary clarifying the close and personal attachments of Hitler's Nazis and Stalin's Communists.
"Soviet Story" is the most powerful antidote yet to the sanitisation of the past. The film is gripping, audacious and uncompromising. [...] The main aim of the film is to show the close connections—philosophical, political and organisational—between the Nazi and Soviet systems." Europe.view: Telling the Soviet story | The Economist

Your link requires watching an 85 minute propaganda film. Are you kidding? You make the claim that a hammer and sickle appear on a Nazi poster but can not provide an image? Why in the world would anyone who is familiar with your sources trust that this image will appear in a film in such a way as to make your point valid? Is there no better link? Is there a genuine image or is this a misrepresentation of some sort? I have ones with the swastika shown with a worker and hammer during the time they were trying to lure communist workers into the party, but I have never seen one with the communist hammer and sickle symbol. There is a poster attacking both the swastika and the hammer and sickle symbols with spear symbols attacking the symbols by a third nationalist party. I'm not going to watch an 85 minute propaganda film loaded with images of dead bodies (yes, I checked out the first few minutes) and obvious propaganda just to learn you are once again misrepresenting and distorting information.

In other words, you are attempting to refute a source without even seeing it? Yeah, that lends you credibility...

 

[edthecynic]

A year after Lenin's death, 1924, the NYTimes published a small article about a newly established party in Germany, the National Socialist Labor Party, which "...persists in believing that Lenin and Hitler can be compared or contrasted...Dr. Goebell's....assertion that Lenin was the greatest man second only to Hitler....and that the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight...."
NYTimes, November 27, 1925.

As is typical of CON$ervoFascist half quotes, what comes after the .... is quite important. When Goebbels spoke those words to a Nazi Party meeting a RIOT broke out resulting in one death, such was the hate by the Nazis for Marx! The dishonest Right leave that out and PompousCheek is too lazy to check anything she copy and pastes.

The full quote:

“On the speaker’s assertion that Lenin was the greatest man, second only to Hitler, and that the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight, a faction war opened with whizzing beer glasses.”
— Joseph Goebbels
​

" ....such was the hate by the Nazis for Marx!"

But not Goebbels, and not Hitler.

They believed, and began, as Marxists.....that is the import of the article.



Dope.

Idiot!

"The Marxists will march with democracy until they succeed in indirectly obtaining for their criminal aims the support of even the national intellectual world, destined by them for extinction." -Mein Kampf

"Marxism itself systematically plans to hand the world over to the Jews." -Hitler Quote Bullock

The Western democracy of today is the forerunner of Marxism which without it would not be thinkable. It provides this world plague with the culture in which its germs can spread.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

"In the years 1913 and 1914, I… expressed the conviction that the question of the future of the German nation was the question of destroying Marxism." - Adolf Hitler

"The Jewish doctrine of Marxism rejects the aristocratic principle of Nature and replaces the eternal privilege of power and strength by the mass of numbers and their dead weight." -Adolf Hitler

"The German state is gravely attacked by Marxism." Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf

 

[regent]

Early Nazi posters included the hammer and sickle with the swastika.


So did many of the memorials they built in Poland after both Hitler and Stalin attacked in 1939.


Dunce.

A number of people including Americans did not believe Hitler during that period of history. Hitler even lied to the Germany people him, telling them all sorts of whoppers simply to get them to follow him? The sad thing is that it seems some Americans still believe in things Hitler said, and use Hitler's quotes as coming from that great swastika in the sky. Who would have dreamed that after all these years we would be telling people that Hitler lied.

The German people???

Really?


These German people:


On March 12, 1938, Hitler’s troops rolled over the border from Germany, into Austria. This was the Anschluss, the annexation of Austria into Greater Germany. Three days later, Hitler entered Vienna, greeted by an enthusiastic crowd of up to one million people. A plebiscite was held in less than a month, and 99.7% of Austrians voted to join the Third Reich.

They 'believed lies' that really smart guys like you wouldn't believe?
Really funny from a guy who believes so many of the Rooseveltian lies.






“It isn't so much that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so.”


― Ronald Reagan

No, no, I believe the noted American historians of our past and today. I do, however, have a little trouble believing Hitler at times, call me foolish, I even think Hitler may have fibbed a little about the Austrian vote you mention. Did Hitler usually conduct honest elections?
Is it possible that Hitler fudged a little on both the Austrian election and the results?

 

[PoliticalChic]

I would like to see that hammer and sickle with swastika poster. Do you have a source?

Of course I do!!



- The Soviet Story (Docu) - Full Movie / English - LivingScoop

The Soviet Story," an award winning documentary clarifying the close and personal attachments of Hitler's Nazis and Stalin's Communists.
"Soviet Story" is the most powerful antidote yet to the sanitisation of the past. The film is gripping, audacious and uncompromising. [...] The main aim of the film is to show the close connections—philosophical, political and organisational—between the Nazi and Soviet systems." Europe.view: Telling the Soviet story | The Economist

Your link requires watching an 85 minute propaganda film. Are you kidding? You make the claim that a hammer and sickle appear on a Nazi poster but can not provide an image? Why in the world would anyone who is familiar with your sources trust that this image will appear in a film in such a way as to make your point valid? Is there no better link? Is there a genuine image or is this a misrepresentation of some sort? I have ones with the swastika shown with a worker and hammer during the time they were trying to lure communist workers into the party, but I have never seen one with the communist hammer and sickle symbol. There is a poster attacking both the swastika and the hammer and sickle symbols with spear symbols attacking the symbols by a third nationalist party. I'm not going to watch an 85 minute propaganda film loaded with images of dead bodies (yes, I checked out the first few minutes) and obvious propaganda just to learn you are once again misrepresenting and distorting information.

I don't 'make a claim'.....I simply provide the truth.

You asked for a source....I provided same.


Now get off your lazy behind and do the requisite research......

...research that I've already done.





"Why in the world would anyone who is familiar with your sources trust that this image will appear in a film in such a way as to make your point valid?"

This is really funny.

I give you the opportunity to prove me wrong....and you whine that it isn't convenient enough for you.





So. tell me....how long have you been living at the corner of Ignorance and Bliss?

 

[Camp]

Of course I do!!



- The Soviet Story (Docu) - Full Movie / English - LivingScoop

The Soviet Story," an award winning documentary clarifying the close and personal attachments of Hitler's Nazis and Stalin's Communists.
"Soviet Story" is the most powerful antidote yet to the sanitisation of the past. The film is gripping, audacious and uncompromising. [...] The main aim of the film is to show the close connections—philosophical, political and organisational—between the Nazi and Soviet systems." Europe.view: Telling the Soviet story | The Economist

Your link requires watching an 85 minute propaganda film. Are you kidding? You make the claim that a hammer and sickle appear on a Nazi poster but can not provide an image? Why in the world would anyone who is familiar with your sources trust that this image will appear in a film in such a way as to make your point valid? Is there no better link? Is there a genuine image or is this a misrepresentation of some sort? I have ones with the swastika shown with a worker and hammer during the time they were trying to lure communist workers into the party, but I have never seen one with the communist hammer and sickle symbol. There is a poster attacking both the swastika and the hammer and sickle symbols with spear symbols attacking the symbols by a third nationalist party. I'm not going to watch an 85 minute propaganda film loaded with images of dead bodies (yes, I checked out the first few minutes) and obvious propaganda just to learn you are once again misrepresenting and distorting information.

In other words, you are attempting to refute a source without even seeing it? Yeah, that lends you credibility...

No, I am not refuting the alleged evidence. I am stating that due to PC's reputiation in regards to providing viable sources I am not going to spend my time on what my own evidence indicates is probably a wild goose chase. That is not the same as to refute. I have refuted her evidence plenty of times.
Now work on your reading comprehension.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Of course I do!!



- The Soviet Story (Docu) - Full Movie / English - LivingScoop

The Soviet Story," an award winning documentary clarifying the close and personal attachments of Hitler's Nazis and Stalin's Communists.
"Soviet Story" is the most powerful antidote yet to the sanitisation of the past. The film is gripping, audacious and uncompromising. [...] The main aim of the film is to show the close connections—philosophical, political and organisational—between the Nazi and Soviet systems." Europe.view: Telling the Soviet story | The Economist

Your link requires watching an 85 minute propaganda film. Are you kidding? You make the claim that a hammer and sickle appear on a Nazi poster but can not provide an image? Why in the world would anyone who is familiar with your sources trust that this image will appear in a film in such a way as to make your point valid? Is there no better link? Is there a genuine image or is this a misrepresentation of some sort? I have ones with the swastika shown with a worker and hammer during the time they were trying to lure communist workers into the party, but I have never seen one with the communist hammer and sickle symbol. There is a poster attacking both the swastika and the hammer and sickle symbols with spear symbols attacking the symbols by a third nationalist party. I'm not going to watch an 85 minute propaganda film loaded with images of dead bodies (yes, I checked out the first few minutes) and obvious propaganda just to learn you are once again misrepresenting and distorting information.

In other words, you are attempting to refute a source without even seeing it? Yeah, that lends you credibility...

"yes, I checked out the first few minutes) and obvious propaganda just to learn you are once again misrepresenting and distorting information."


You moron....I gave you the item from 'The Economist" verifying the value of the documentary.


You're so stupid, I bet you'd got fired from the M & M factory for throwing away all the W's .

 

[PoliticalChic]

Your link requires watching an 85 minute propaganda film. Are you kidding? You make the claim that a hammer and sickle appear on a Nazi poster but can not provide an image? Why in the world would anyone who is familiar with your sources trust that this image will appear in a film in such a way as to make your point valid? Is there no better link? Is there a genuine image or is this a misrepresentation of some sort? I have ones with the swastika shown with a worker and hammer during the time they were trying to lure communist workers into the party, but I have never seen one with the communist hammer and sickle symbol. There is a poster attacking both the swastika and the hammer and sickle symbols with spear symbols attacking the symbols by a third nationalist party. I'm not going to watch an 85 minute propaganda film loaded with images of dead bodies (yes, I checked out the first few minutes) and obvious propaganda just to learn you are once again misrepresenting and distorting information.

In other words, you are attempting to refute a source without even seeing it? Yeah, that lends you credibility...

No, I am not refuting the alleged evidence. I am stating that due to PC's reputiation in regards to providing viable sources I am not going to spend my time on what my own evidence indicates is probably a wild goose chase. That is not the same as to refute. I have refuted her evidence plenty of times.
Now work on your reading comprehension.

It’s only fun when someone bites it big time: that’s where you come in!

Lame excuse, loser.

I'm glad to see you're not letting education get in the way of your ignorance.



"...due to PC's reputiation...."

So....I take it you weren't a finalist in the Scripps National Spelling Bee, huh.





You're as useless as the "ay" in "Okay."

 

[PoliticalChic]

As is typical of CON$ervoFascist half quotes, what comes after the .... is quite important. When Goebbels spoke those words to a Nazi Party meeting a RIOT broke out resulting in one death, such was the hate by the Nazis for Marx! The dishonest Right leave that out and PompousCheek is too lazy to check anything she copy and pastes.

The full quote:

“On the speaker’s assertion that Lenin was the greatest man, second only to Hitler, and that the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight, a faction war opened with whizzing beer glasses.”
— Joseph Goebbels
​

" ....such was the hate by the Nazis for Marx!"

But not Goebbels, and not Hitler.

They believed, and began, as Marxists.....that is the import of the article.



Dope.

Idiot!

"The Marxists will march with democracy until they succeed in indirectly obtaining for their criminal aims the support of even the national intellectual world, destined by them for extinction." -Mein Kampf

"Marxism itself systematically plans to hand the world over to the Jews." -Hitler Quote Bullock

The Western democracy of today is the forerunner of Marxism which without it would not be thinkable. It provides this world plague with the culture in which its germs can spread.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

"In the years 1913 and 1914, I… expressed the conviction that the question of the future of the German nation was the question of destroying Marxism." - Adolf Hitler

"The Jewish doctrine of Marxism rejects the aristocratic principle of Nature and replaces the eternal privilege of power and strength by the mass of numbers and their dead weight." -Adolf Hitler

"The German state is gravely attacked by Marxism." Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf

You can run but you can't hide.

Stick to the photo that you posted.

Who related Nazism and communism????


Right....Goebbels and Hitler.



You are as burned as Edgar Winter on an Ecuadorian beach!

 

[Unkotare]

I am stating that due to PC's reputiation in regards to providing viable sources I am not going to spend my time on what my own evidence indicates is probably a wild goose chase. .

= sending up the white flag


Why bother starting in on a discussion if you are just going to tuck tail and run away so soon?

 

[PoliticalChic]

A number of people including Americans did not believe Hitler during that period of history. Hitler even lied to the Germany people him, telling them all sorts of whoppers simply to get them to follow him? The sad thing is that it seems some Americans still believe in things Hitler said, and use Hitler's quotes as coming from that great swastika in the sky. Who would have dreamed that after all these years we would be telling people that Hitler lied.

The German people???

Really?


These German people:


On March 12, 1938, Hitler’s troops rolled over the border from Germany, into Austria. This was the Anschluss, the annexation of Austria into Greater Germany. Three days later, Hitler entered Vienna, greeted by an enthusiastic crowd of up to one million people. A plebiscite was held in less than a month, and 99.7% of Austrians voted to join the Third Reich.

They 'believed lies' that really smart guys like you wouldn't believe?
Really funny from a guy who believes so many of the Rooseveltian lies.






“It isn't so much that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so.”


― Ronald Reagan

No, no, I believe the noted American historians of our past and today. I do, however, have a little trouble believing Hitler at times, call me foolish, I even think Hitler may have fibbed a little about the Austrian vote you mention. Did Hitler usually conduct honest elections?
Is it possible that Hitler fudged a little on both the Austrian election and the results?

"Is it possible that Hitler fudged a little on both the Austrian election and the results?"


Now, now....you don't have to go out of your way to prove that you're clueless.

"Hitler's car crossed the border in the afternoon at Braunau, his birthplace. In the evening, he arrived at Linz and was given an enthusiastic welcome. The enthusiasm displayed toward Hitler and the Germans surprised both Nazis and non-Nazis,..."
Anschluss - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Camp]

In other words, you are attempting to refute a source without even seeing it? Yeah, that lends you credibility...

No, I am not refuting the alleged evidence. I am stating that due to PC's reputiation in regards to providing viable sources I am not going to spend my time on what my own evidence indicates is probably a wild goose chase. That is not the same as to refute. I have refuted her evidence plenty of times.
Now work on your reading comprehension.

It’s only fun when someone bites it big time: that’s where you come in!

Lame excuse, loser.

I'm glad to see you're not letting education get in the way of your ignorance.



"...due to PC's reputiation...."

So....I take it you weren't a finalist in the Scripps National Spelling Bee, huh.





You're as useless as the "ay" in "Okay."

Don't worry about my sloppy typing. Worry about trying to use an 85 minute movie as a viable source. Your just pissed off at the way I destroyed your bullshit on your Stalin D-Day thread. And any sensible person knows an hour and a half long movie can not be used or sited as a viable source without providing specific details on how it relates to the claim and where exactly the source offers confirmation of a claim. Where meaning the minutes and seconds into the film or video.

 

[Unkotare]

Your [sic] just pissed off at the way I destroyed your bullshit on your Stalin D-Day thread. ....

If you have any self-respect at all, you're embarrassed at what you've just done to any credibility you might have had.

 

[PoliticalChic]

No, I am not refuting the alleged evidence. I am stating that due to PC's reputiation in regards to providing viable sources I am not going to spend my time on what my own evidence indicates is probably a wild goose chase. That is not the same as to refute. I have refuted her evidence plenty of times.
Now work on your reading comprehension.

It’s only fun when someone bites it big time: that’s where you come in!

Lame excuse, loser.

I'm glad to see you're not letting education get in the way of your ignorance.



"...due to PC's reputiation...."

So....I take it you weren't a finalist in the Scripps National Spelling Bee, huh.





You're as useless as the "ay" in "Okay."

Don't worry about my sloppy typing. Worry about trying to use an 85 minute movie as a viable source. Your just pissed off at the way I destroyed your bullshit on your Stalin D-Day thread. And any sensible person knows an hour and a half long movie can not be used or sited as a viable source without providing specific details on how it relates to the claim and where exactly the source offers confirmation of a claim. Where meaning the minutes and seconds into the film or video.

"Worry about trying to use an 85 minute movie as a viable source."


I see your argument.

After all, 85 minutes represents more time than you've spent in getting an education.




So....basically, you're just gonna admit that the source I provided - as a favor to you, when you asked- proves that the Nazis had both the swastika and the hammer and sickle on their posters.


Good boy!

Doggie treat??




"Your just pissed off at the way I destroyed your bullshit on your Stalin D-Day thread."

Ooooo....just look at that language!
You must be so aggg-rrriiivvv-ated that the only thing destroyed was your reputation.

True?






Let me summarize:

Me: Pay-per-view!

You: Pay-per-weight.

 

[Camp]

Your [sic] just pissed off at the way I destroyed your bullshit on your Stalin D-Day thread. ....

If you have any self-respect at all, you're embarrassed at what you've just done to any credibility you might have had.

I think it is for more embarrassing to have a thesis about D-Day and WWII without the knowledge of V Missiles and the invasion of Italy than the misuse or spelling of the word you're on a message board.
Now how about you find that mythical image of the official Nazi poster with the hammer and sickle.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Your [sic] just pissed off at the way I destroyed your bullshit on your Stalin D-Day thread. ....

If you have any self-respect at all, you're embarrassed at what you've just done to any credibility you might have had.

I think it is for more embarrassing to have a thesis about D-Day and WWII without the knowledge of V Missiles and the invasion of Italy than the misuse or spelling of the word you're on a message board.
Now how about you find that mythical image of the official Nazi poster with the hammer and sickle.

Heck...you're right.

I probably made up that stuff about the Nazis having both swastikas and hammer and sickle on their posters.

Whew!

Sure is a good thing that you are a lazy warthog-faced buffoon who wouldn't check out the source that I provided!

I mean...how could I live it down when you came back with a great big 'AHA!," proving that it didn't exist............

I'd have to run to my room and hide!!!!




But....if it's there........what would that say about you? It would verify the old saw "The 13th chime of a clock, not only does it make no sense, but it calls into question the validity of the 12 chimes that preceded it."

Yup...everything you post. Worthless.




You know it's there don't you.
...'cause you're learned that I never lie.


Especially about you, you ugly stuck up, half-witted, scruffy-looking Nerf herder.

 

[Synthaholic]

There needs to be a Faux History sub-forum reserved as PoliticalChic's sandbox.