This is inhumane

[Unkotare]

Ignorance makes self-righteousness so much easier.

 

[TemplarKormac]

However ... You cannot even hazard a guess as to what the parents are thinking.
You are close minded, and cannot fathom anything other than what you think should apply.

Like I said.

America has been in existence for 244 years. Long enough for her values of self-sacrifice and personal responsibility to permeate the world over. I can hazard a guess that they have been exposed to those values in some way or another. Given that, I would expect them to know that what they're doing is cruel and unconscionable.

Parents are supposed to be there to support their children, not wantonly exposing them to danger on the fleeting hope these children have better lives elsewhere.

What a twisted view. You think parents in a dangerous country should consider what someone in the US might think, and ignore the reality they face every day. Grow up, you idiot.

Wonderful, you of all people telling me to grow up. Utterly laughable coming from you.

All this moral pomposity coming from people (as far as I know) that haven't experienced any of these hardships themselves either.

So why should I take your advice on the subject?

 

[TemplarKormac]

Ignorance makes self-righteousness so much easier.

Ignorance of evil makes it that much easier to dismiss.

 

[BULLDOG]

However ... You cannot even hazard a guess as to what the parents are thinking.
You are close minded, and cannot fathom anything other than what you think should apply.

Like I said.

America has been in existence for 244 years. Long enough for her values of self-sacrifice and personal responsibility to permeate the world over. I can hazard a guess that they have been exposed to those values in some way or another. Given that, I would expect them to know that what they're doing is cruel and unconscionable.

Parents are supposed to be there to support their children, not wantonly exposing them to danger on the fleeting hope these children have better lives elsewhere.

What a twisted view. You think parents in a dangerous country should consider what someone in the US might think, and ignore the reality they face every day. Grow up, you idiot.

Wonderful, you of all people telling me to grow up. Utterly laughable coming from you.

All this moral pomposity coming from people (as far as I know) that haven't experienced any of these hardships themselves either.

So why should I take your advice on the subject?

As usual, you are too childish and not capable of understanding that morality and compassion should take precedence over your political talking points. Think what you will. We already knew you are a lost cause.

 

[justinacolmena]

Parents should be with their children through thick and thin, danger and safety, but the parents of this little one aren't

Damn that's a sick child molestation cult.
Parents are supposed to be with EACH OTHER and their kids are supposed to learn to fend for themselves, earn a proper living somehow or other when they come of age.

 

[justinacolmena]

As usual, you are too childish and not capable of understanding that morality and compassion should take precedence over your political talking points. Think what you will. We already knew you are a lost cause.

And that's an even more sick twisted view. Children are innocent up to a certain age: morality and compassion are innate. Vice and depravity on the other hand are learned behaviors.

 

[BULLDOG]

As usual, you are too childish and not capable of understanding that morality and compassion should take precedence over your political talking points. Think what you will. We already knew you are a lost cause.

And that's an even more sick twisted view. Children are innocent up to a certain age: morality and compassion are innate. Vice and depravity on the other hand are learned behaviors.

The Heartbreaking WWII Rescue That Saved 10,000 Jewish Children From the Nazis | HISTORY

The desperate parents of Kindertransport refugees paid a terrible price for their lives.

www.history.com

 

[justinacolmena]

As usual, you are too childish and not capable of understanding that morality and compassion should take precedence over your political talking points. Think what you will. We already knew you are a lost cause.

And that's an even more sick twisted view. Children are innocent up to a certain age: morality and compassion are innate. Vice and depravity on the other hand are learned behaviors.

The Heartbreaking WWII Rescue That Saved 10,000 Jewish Children From the Nazis | HISTORY

The desperate parents of Kindertransport refugees paid a terrible price for their lives.

www.history.com

Is that Hispanic or Latino or Roman Catholic, the overemphasis on family, family, family all the time?

 

[Unkotare]

Ignorance makes self-righteousness so much easier.

Ignorance of evil makes it that much easier to dismiss.

Take a moment to think about that.

 

[Flopper]

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If the child was sent here unaccompanied they should be put up for adoption. The parents and relatives should have no say in the matter and no custody or visiting rights should ever be granted any parent or relative afterwards. The child was abandoned.

*****SMILE*****

In Europe , it was not uncommon for Jewish parents to give up their children so they might escape the Holocaust. Giving up one's child is one of the hardest things for a parent to do but sometimes it is the best choice for the child.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Ignorance makes self-righteousness so much easier.

Ignorance of evil makes it that much easier to dismiss.

Take a moment to think about that.

I did before I posted it. Believe it or not.

 

[Cecilie1200]

I don't know so much about Guatemala, but the kids in Juarez, Mexico transverse extreme danger walking to corner grocery store.

Yes, because of the cartels and gang violence.

But that's not the point and you very well know it.

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It doesn't matter what kind of caveat you may want to apply.

They can keep their children where they are.
They can watch their children get gunned down by the cartels,
Or worse end up enslaved or working for the cartels the rest of their lives.

Or they can send them to a place where the citizens will damn near kill each other over taking care of the children coming across the border.
And with an open invitation from the Politicians in power in Washington DC.

Think Templar ... They don't live in their mother's basement eating Twinkies and playing Call of Duty.

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Neither are all, or even most, of them living lives worse than being gang-raped for weeks on end, watching other kids having their throats slit for making noise at the wrong time and knowing they could be next, and being abandoned in the middle of the desert to die if they can't keep up. And then, if they make it into the US, being held for ransom against their families back home sending more money, or being sold into child prostitution, as happens to many of them.

And Templar has a point. Why are their parents abandoning them to the very people you're telling us they're afraid of? Why are they sending them alone, instead of coming with them to try to protect them?

 

[Cecilie1200]

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If the child was sent here unaccompanied they should be put up for adoption. The parents and relatives should have no say in the matter and no custody or visiting rights should ever be granted any parent or relative afterwards. The child was abandoned.

*****SMILE*****

In Europe , it was not uncommon for Jewish parents to give up their children so they might escape the Holocaust. Giving up one's child is one of the hardest things for a parent to do but sometimes it is the best choice for the child.

Pretty sure those parents weren't knowingly giving the kids up to people who would abuse and torture them. Also, the alternative was Nazi death camps. Most of these people are not facing anything remotely comparable to Nazi death camps, as much as people want to tell themselves they are.

 

[Coyote]

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If the child was sent here unaccompanied they should be put up for adoption. The parents and relatives should have no say in the matter and no custody or visiting rights should ever be granted any parent or relative afterwards. The child was abandoned.

*****SMILE*****

In Europe , it was not uncommon for Jewish parents to give up their children so they might escape the Holocaust. Giving up one's child is one of the hardest things for a parent to do but sometimes it is the best choice for the child.

Pretty sure those parents weren't knowingly giving the kids up to people who would abuse and torture them. Also, the alternative was Nazi death camps. Most of these people are not facing anything remotely comparable to Nazi death camps, as much as people want to tell themselves they are.

I am pretty sure these parents today weren't knowingly giving the kids up to people who would abuse and torture them either.

Most of the efforts to get children out were started BEFORE the concentration camps came into existence, they had no way of knowing how bad things were going to get.

 

[Esdraelon]

On the other. . . I am not sure about the parents that contract with these coyotes.

They may well be selling them to traffickers.

 

[Flopper]

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If the child was sent here unaccompanied they should be put up for adoption. The parents and relatives should have no say in the matter and no custody or visiting rights should ever be granted any parent or relative afterwards. The child was abandoned.

*****SMILE*****

In Europe , it was not uncommon for Jewish parents to give up their children so they might escape the Holocaust. Giving up one's child is one of the hardest things for a parent to do but sometimes it is the best choice for the child.

Pretty sure those parents weren't knowingly giving the kids up to people who would abuse and torture them. Also, the alternative was Nazi death camps. Most of these people are not facing anything remotely comparable to Nazi death camps, as much as people want to tell themselves they are.

There are a lot of presumptions being made by people who don't know what they are talking about. Many years ago, I spent two years in the Peace Corp in a shit hole just as bad as Guatemala. Thinking that parents living in extreme poverty don't care about their kids is just not true. Unlike parents in the US who tend to be obsessed with their jobs, social engagements, maintaining the home, yard, cars, planning vacations, etc, the only thing most of the parents in these countries have is their kids. Thinking they are going to send them off on a 1500 mile journey through jungles and deserts alone is just plain nonsense. Most unescorted kids are runaways living on their own or kids that were separated from their parents.

 

[MisterBeale]

On the other. . . I am not sure about the parents that contract with these coyotes.

They may well be selling them to traffickers.

Trafficked in America | FRONTLINE

Watch FRONTLINE's documentary about labor trafficking that follows Guatemalan teens who were smuggled into the Midwest & forced to work against their will.

www.pbs.org

This was broadcast in 2018, though it is an investigative piece from 2014 and before.

"FRONTLINE and the Investigative Reporting Program at U.C. Berkeley tell the inside story of Guatemalan teens who were forced to work against their will on an Ohio egg farm in 2014."

 

[Baron Von Murderpaws]

This makes my blood boil.

What kind of parent sends their poor child thousands of miles alone across treacherous territory to cross our border illegally?

A parent who wants a better life for their child? No. That's a big fat lie. Parents should be with their children through thick and thin, danger and safety, but the parents of this little one aren't.

What these parents have done to these unaccompanied minors is beyond inhumane.

So anyone saying "they want a better life for their child" can promptly screw off. Sorry. I will always have a soft spot for children, no matter who they are or where they come from.

Don't try to justify this behavior. Don't give me any excuses about "well the parents are helping their children flee from violence"--- if that were true, they would be fleeing with them. I see no love in these actions. None whatsoever.

Most of these kids are bred for this. They are fodder for pimps, pushers, rapists, psychopaths, drug cartel, murderers, etc..... They are purchased and used as leeway for these lunatics from the other side of the border to get a foothold into this country. They KNOW they will get separated and they depend on that, in order to dump the kid and go off on their own.

There are "baby factories" all over South America where women get paid a lot of money to breed babies for this purpose and many other purposes - child slavery, child workhouses, child whorehouses, child drug mules, etc....

These disgusting pieces of human garbage will buy a kid, drag them up here with them, and use them as an entrance visa. Once the adult is separated from the child, then the kid is on their own.

This is why I am specifically against illegals, why I despise them!

The government knows this, and they refuse to acknowledge it.

All of these pieces of sh*t invading our country need to be shot on site. If you aren't going to come here legally, ethically, and honestly......then you don't belong here, nobody wants you here, and there's no reason for you to be left alive.

Take the kids, put them into the military, so they can go to school, learn English, learn about America, and serve in the military when of age. It's so much better than cramming them into camps and corrupt foster homes, where they don't learn anything and are used for purposes of being "welfare babies" by the foster homes and orphanages.

 

[BlackSand]

Neither are all, or even most, of them living lives worse than being gang-raped for weeks on end, watching other kids having their throats slit for making noise at the wrong time and knowing they could be next, and being abandoned in the middle of the desert to die if they can't keep up. And then, if they make it into the US, being held for ransom against their families back home sending more money, or being sold into child prostitution, as happens to many of them.

And Templar has a point. Why are their parents abandoning them to the very people you're telling us they're afraid of? Why are they sending them alone, instead of coming with them to try to protect them?

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Of course they aren't living lives worse than what could happen to them on the trip.

Likewise ... The nefarious people selling them the opportunity aren't telling them they will be gang raped or have their throats slit either.
A lot of these folks don't wake up in the morning watching CNN over a cup of coffee, and get the latest news from America.

Good grief people ... They aren't reading what you are posting here.
They don't know what you know.

Have any of you been to a shitty third world country?
They wouldn't be leaving where they are at if they had access to everything you have or know here.
The entire world does not exist in a vacuum where everyone knows what you know and has access to the same knowledge you have sitting on your couch.

I know it is inconceivable to a lot of you, but your missing the point.
Some of these people can't write their fucking name, and for some stupid reason you think they are going to think like you do.
I mean you seriously don't know how lucky you are and what you should be thankful for.

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[Cecilie1200]

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If the child was sent here unaccompanied they should be put up for adoption. The parents and relatives should have no say in the matter and no custody or visiting rights should ever be granted any parent or relative afterwards. The child was abandoned.

*****SMILE*****

In Europe , it was not uncommon for Jewish parents to give up their children so they might escape the Holocaust. Giving up one's child is one of the hardest things for a parent to do but sometimes it is the best choice for the child.

Pretty sure those parents weren't knowingly giving the kids up to people who would abuse and torture them. Also, the alternative was Nazi death camps. Most of these people are not facing anything remotely comparable to Nazi death camps, as much as people want to tell themselves they are.

I am pretty sure these parents today weren't knowingly giving the kids up to people who would abuse and torture them either.

Most of the efforts to get children out were started BEFORE the concentration camps came into existence, they had no way of knowing how bad things were going to get.

Yeah, they were. You honestly think they don't know what the cartels and coyotes are like? You really believe they mistook these vicious criminals for the Red Cross?