This Is What Happened At The Pentagon On 9/11

Hi SFC:

Did you interview the taxi driver Lloyde England? I did. You wrote:

No, only the witnesses you want to use say that the plane was nowhere near the light poles.

The A-3 Sky Warrior used the 'south of Citgo' flight path, during the 9:31:39 AM missile strike. That is when the five light poles were taken down by a combination of the A-3 Jet and the bow shockwave of the Hughes-Raytheon Hypersonic Missile. The light pole was sent north into the windshield of Lloyde's taxi cab like a javelin. The A-3 Jet was thrown off course by the bow shockwave of the missile for the airman to pull back on the joystick and fly the A-3 Jet over the E-ring roof and right over the White House, before making a wide sweeping turn to the north. The A-3 Jet then returned using the 'north-of-Citgo' flight path to strike the area of the Wedge One E-ring wall between column line 11 and 16 at exactly 9:36:27 AM, which corresponds to Lloyde's 'Big Boom.' Lloyde was assisted by a young man in a white van that was sitting in the northbound lane of Washington Blvd, as that side of Route 27 was standing still like a parking lot. The two men wrestled with the light pole for about 3 minutes doing everything not to scratch the hood. However, the first event that knocked down the poles (9:31) and the second event of the Big Boom (9:36) proves that the Pentagon was attacked multiple times having nothing to do with any Jetliner.

It is so obvious that the taxi driver must have been in on the whole thing because the pole didn't hit the hood of his cab..........

Damn that's weak................

That is nonsense. Lloyde was a 69-year old taxi driver at the time. He was simply looking the wrong direction during both attacks to really know what happened. The lettered agencies put shills on the internet to discredit Lloyde, because he is one of the witnesses that can prove a multiple Pentagon attack scenario.

Terral

I cant believe your back to have Gomer Ollie fart in your face Terral.:lol: speaking of being back,what a surprise.thought you decided to leave for good from this site and be free of these paid shills like Gomer Ollie.
 
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The Pentagon wall collapsed twenty to thirty minutes after impact. Before that, there was a much smaller hole which ripped through through three of the five rings of the building and came out the other side with another hole about nine feet wide (as pictured above). The distance between the two points is 310 feet of a seriously reinforced building. And yet the American people is supposed to believe and accept the lies that a commercial airliner did this, what a load of bullshit.

The authorities say that a lack of major pieces of wreckage can be explained by the aircraft disintegrating and melting in the impact explosion, but at the same time they say it was the nose cone that tore through three reinforced rings of the building and caused the exit hole. More bullshit lies.

Nose cones of commercial airlines are not strong enough to have been responsible for the penetration of a building recently reinforced to defend the Pentagon from such attacks The nose cone of a Boeing 757 is made of carbon fibre (like fibreglass); there is no metal nose cone on a 757. An average strength person could seriously damage the nose cone of a Boeing 757 in about 15 minutes with nothing more than a light axe or a sledgehammer.

Lying piece-of-shit sock puppets like PFC Gomer Ollie or Dawgshit will post images with the few scrap pieces on the lawn of the Pentagon and are trying to claim that it came from a Boeing 757. :eusa_liar: More bullshit lies.

There is absolutly NO PROOF that a Boeing 757 Flight AA77, has ever struck the Pentagon. A Boeing 757 is 60 Tons and if a Boeing 757 struck the Pentagon, it would leave 60 Tons of scrap, NOT A FEW PIECES.
 
Child, now go back and have another try at the construction of the pentagon. Only the outer wall is reinforced. And while you are at it please show us where in the official reports anyone said that the nose cone made that hole.

And by the way I have again requested that the mod staff remove your comments from my visitor messages.

Shame you have to act like such a child.

I'll repost your message here though so that your friends can see just how much you are like your hero 911shitforbrains. He's been brought down to nothing but fart jokes. Must be talking about you.

Wildcard
You are an old, out-of-shape, senile piece-of-shit that continually spreads lie after lie about 9/11.
GO FUCK YOURSELF
!


Funny how I don't feel Old and how I still manage to take care of 2 1/2 lots and act as a full time caregiver, and still fulfill my role as Commander of an American legion Post and be so far out of shape. Not to mention the volunteer hours at the local VA Center.....So bring it on child, but keep it here instead of my message board.....
 
The distance between the two points is 310 feet of a seriously reinforced building.

but at the same time they say it was the nose cone that tore through three reinforced rings of the building and caused the exit hole.

Reinforced rings huh?

Please tell us what you THINK you know about those rings being reinforced. Are you suggesting that the 2 walls of each ring were reinforced?

Explain.
 
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The Pentagon wall collapsed twenty to thirty minutes after impact. Before that, there was a much smaller hole which ripped through through three of the five rings of the building and came out the other side with another hole about nine feet wide (as pictured above). The distance between the two points is 310 feet of a seriously reinforced building. And yet the American people is supposed to believe and accept the lies that a commercial airliner did this, what a load of bullshit.

The authorities say that a lack of major pieces of wreckage can be explained by the aircraft disintegrating and melting in the impact explosion, but at the same time they say it was the nose cone that tore through three reinforced rings of the building and caused the exit hole. More bullshit lies.

Nose cones of commercial airlines are not strong enough to have been responsible for the penetration of a building recently reinforced to defend the Pentagon from such attacks The nose cone of a Boeing 757 is made of carbon fibre (like fibreglass); there is no metal nose cone on a 757. An average strength person could seriously damage the nose cone of a Boeing 757 in about 15 minutes with nothing more than a light axe or a sledgehammer.

Lying piece-of-shit sock puppets like PFC Gomer Ollie or Dawgshit will post images with the few scrap pieces on the lawn of the Pentagon and are trying to claim that it came from a Boeing 757. :eusa_liar: More bullshit lies.

There is absolutly NO PROOF that a Boeing 757 Flight AA77, has ever struck the Pentagon. A Boeing 757 is 60 Tons and if a Boeing 757 struck the Pentagon, it would leave 60 Tons of scrap, NOT A FEW PIECES.

LOL...Yes shortly after the "missile attack" crews were seen distributing aircraft wreckage all over the Pentagon lawn

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But you are too smart for them
 
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pentagon-hole-de.jpg


The Pentagon wall collapsed twenty to thirty minutes after impact. Before that, there was a much smaller hole which ripped through through three of the five rings of the building and came out the other side with another hole about nine feet wide (as pictured above). The distance between the two points is 310 feet of a seriously reinforced building. And yet the American people is supposed to believe and accept the lies that a commercial airliner did this, what a load of bullshit.

The authorities say that a lack of major pieces of wreckage can be explained by the aircraft disintegrating and melting in the impact explosion, but at the same time they say it was the nose cone that tore through three reinforced rings of the building and caused the exit hole. More bullshit lies.

Nose cones of commercial airlines are not strong enough to have been responsible for the penetration of a building recently reinforced to defend the Pentagon from such attacks The nose cone of a Boeing 757 is made of carbon fibre (like fibreglass); there is no metal nose cone on a 757. An average strength person could seriously damage the nose cone of a Boeing 757 in about 15 minutes with nothing more than a light axe or a sledgehammer.

Lying piece-of-shit sock puppets like PFC Gomer Ollie or Dawgshit will post images with the few scrap pieces on the lawn of the Pentagon and are trying to claim that it came from a Boeing 757. :eusa_liar: More bullshit lies.

There is absolutly NO PROOF that a Boeing 757 Flight AA77, has ever struck the Pentagon. A Boeing 757 is 60 Tons and if a Boeing 757 struck the Pentagon, it would leave 60 Tons of scrap, NOT A FEW PIECES.

LOL...Yes shortly after the "missile attack" crews were seen distributing aircraft wreckage all over the Pentagon lawn

PentagonPlanePartLawn_.jpg


But you are too smart for them

agent troll rightwinger of course ignores FACTS that that particular airliner industry has said that is not the wreckage of a boeing 757 and of course what the worlds expert pilots say mean nothing to him as well of course :cuckoo::lol: Of course what would you expect from a guy who when confronted with facts that there were mulitiple shooters that killed kennedy, can only come back and say oswald was the lone assassin as evidenced here.proof of what a agent troll he is who cant debate.:lol:
:lmao::rofl:

No I'm a conspiracy REALIST troll.Reality that you ignore is not a conspiracy theory. Your such an idiot that you ignore all the multiple unnacccountable bullets found at dealy plaza like the one in the street sign,in the windshield, in the doorframe,in the grass that was seen picked up and removed by an fbi agent,you troll the boards ignoring the facts that he was NOT a lone gunman.

No im a conspiracy REALIST,you on the other hand,are a coincidence theorist troll.gotcha,
Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK


that last sentence above as you can see from the link below is REALLY agent troll righwingers exact words when confronted with facts that prove him wrong.hee hee.
Even Huggy on this link below of this thread spotted what a troll he is who when cornered,has to lie to try and save face in his posts so his handlers will pay him the big bucks.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/sports/267171-nfl-playoffs-new-orleans-bound-14.html





his other agent trolls will be here in a second to back him up of course,they play tag team up all the time at all these message boards.
 
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Hey 911shitforbrains, how about you actually posting these facts that you claim we ignore. you know where someone can actually prove that it wasn't a 757? Because everything I've seen says it is....Other than you of course...
 
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The Pentagon wall collapsed twenty to thirty minutes after impact. Before that, there was a much smaller hole which ripped through through three of the five rings of the building and came out the other side with another hole about nine feet wide (as pictured above). The distance between the two points is 310 feet of a seriously reinforced building. And yet the American people is supposed to believe and accept the lies that a commercial airliner did this, what a load of bullshit.

The authorities say that a lack of major pieces of wreckage can be explained by the aircraft disintegrating and melting in the impact explosion, but at the same time they say it was the nose cone that tore through three reinforced rings of the building and caused the exit hole. More bullshit lies.

Nose cones of commercial airlines are not strong enough to have been responsible for the penetration of a building recently reinforced to defend the Pentagon from such attacks The nose cone of a Boeing 757 is made of carbon fibre (like fibreglass); there is no metal nose cone on a 757. An average strength person could seriously damage the nose cone of a Boeing 757 in about 15 minutes with nothing more than a light axe or a sledgehammer.

Lying piece-of-shit sock puppets like PFC Gomer Ollie or Dawgshit will post images with the few scrap pieces on the lawn of the Pentagon and are trying to claim that it came from a Boeing 757. :eusa_liar: More bullshit lies.

There is absolutly NO PROOF that a Boeing 757 Flight AA77, has ever struck the Pentagon. A Boeing 757 is 60 Tons and if a Boeing 757 struck the Pentagon, it would leave 60 Tons of scrap, NOT A FEW PIECES.

LOL...Yes shortly after the "missile attack" crews were seen distributing aircraft wreckage all over the Pentagon lawn

PentagonPlanePartLawn_.jpg


But you are too smart for them

agent troll rightwinger of course ignores FACTS that that particular airliner industry has said that is not the wreckage of a boeing 757 and of course what the worlds expert pilots say mean nothing to him as well of course :cuckoo::lol: Of course what would you expect from a guy who when confronted with facts that there were mulitiple shooters that killed kennedy, can only come back and say oswald was the lone assassin as evidenced here.proof of what a agent troll he is who cant debate.:lol:
:lmao::rofl:

No I'm a conspiracy REALIST troll.Reality that you ignore is not a conspiracy theory. Your such an idiot that you ignore all the multiple unnacccountable bullets found at dealy plaza like the one in the street sign,in the windshield, in the doorframe,in the grass that was seen picked up and removed by an fbi agent,you troll the boards ignoring the facts that he was NOT a lone gunman.

No im a conspiracy REALIST,you on the other hand,are a coincidence theorist troll.gotcha,
Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK


that last sentence above as you can see from the link below is REALLY agent troll righwingers exact words when confronted with facts that prove him wrong.hee hee.
Even Huggy on this link below of this thread spotted what a troll he is who when cornered,has to lie to try and save face in his posts so his handlers will pay him the big bucks.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/sports/267171-nfl-playoffs-new-orleans-bound-14.html





his other agent trolls will be here in a second to back him up of course,they play tag team up all the time at all these message boards.

Just like i called it.these government agent trolls are so predictable its comedy gold.:clap2::lmao::rofl:

agent troll Gomer Ollie here as evidenced was the first to come back and kiss the ass of fellow agent troll Rightwinger as predicted.:lmao:

you never learn Gomer.You already experienced a heart attack because you are a disgrace to your fellow military officers betraying them posting for money thinking it will buy you happiness even though you have already experienced negative karma for doing so and clinton,the Bushs,cheney and others who participated in it have been painfully suffering experiencing negative karma for their participation in this coverup with serious health problems over the years.

You just wont quit while you have the chance and want to experince the same kind of future miserly THEY all are experiencing for orchestrating this event.what a sad disgraceful human being you are.

Too bad all you other agent trolls just never learn from all the miserly and health problems The Bushs,Clinton,Cheney and others are suffering as well as what gomer has already experienced, to quit while your ahead and apologize for all these 9/11 familys you have taken a shit on all these years.you never learn.truley sad the pain and suffering you all are going to suffer in years to come.
 
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LOL...Yes shortly after the "missile attack" crews were seen distributing aircraft wreckage all over the Pentagon lawn

PentagonPlanePartLawn_.jpg


But you are too smart for them

agent troll rightwinger of course ignores FACTS that that particular airliner industry has said that is not the wreckage of a boeing 757 and of course what the worlds expert pilots say mean nothing to him as well of course :cuckoo::lol: Of course what would you expect from a guy who when confronted with facts that there were mulitiple shooters that killed kennedy, can only come back and say oswald was the lone assassin as evidenced here.proof of what a agent troll he is who cant debate.:lol:
:lmao::rofl:

No I'm a conspiracy REALIST troll.Reality that you ignore is not a conspiracy theory. Your such an idiot that you ignore all the multiple unnacccountable bullets found at dealy plaza like the one in the street sign,in the windshield, in the doorframe,in the grass that was seen picked up and removed by an fbi agent,you troll the boards ignoring the facts that he was NOT a lone gunman.

No im a conspiracy REALIST,you on the other hand,are a coincidence theorist troll.gotcha,
Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK


that last sentence above as you can see from the link below is REALLY agent troll righwingers exact words when confronted with facts that prove him wrong.hee hee.
Even Huggy on this link below of this thread spotted what a troll he is who when cornered,has to lie to try and save face in his posts so his handlers will pay him the big bucks.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/sports/267171-nfl-playoffs-new-orleans-bound-14.html





his other agent trolls will be here in a second to back him up of course,they play tag team up all the time at all these message boards.

Just like i called it.these government agent trolls are so predictable its comedy gold.:clap2::lmao::rofl:

agent troll Gomer Ollie here as evidenced was the first to come back and kiss the ass of fellow agent troll Rightwinger as predicted.:lmao:

you never learn Gomer.You already experienced a heart attack because you are a disgrace to your fellow military officers betraying them posting for money thinking it will buy you happiness even though you have already experienced negative karma for doing so and clinton,the Bushs,cheney and others who participated in it have been painfully suffering experiencing negative karma for their participation in this coverup with serious health problems over the years.

You just wont quit while you have the chance and want to experince the same kind of future miserly THEY all are experiencing for orchestrating this event.what a sad disgraceful human being you are.

Too bad all you other agent trolls just never learn from all the miserly and health problems The Bushs,Clinton,Cheney and others are suffering as well as what gomer has already experienced, to quit while your ahead and apologize for all these 9/11 familys you have taken a shit on all these years.you never learn.truley sad the pain and suffering you all are going to suffer in years to come.

I think next time I have to report wildcard that I'll also ask about checking IP's with shitforbrains..... They sure do sound the same these days.....
 
disgraceful agent troll Gomer is back to shit all over the floor again I see.:clap2::9:

Needs to earn those big bucks from his hanlders he thinks buys him happiness.
 
Child, now go back and have another try at the construction of the pentagon. Only the outer wall is reinforced. And while you are at it please show us where in the official reports anyone said that the nose cone made that hole.

And by the way I have again requested that the mod staff remove your comments from my visitor messages.

Shame you have to act like such a child.

I'll repost your message here though so that your friends can see just how much you are like your hero 911shitforbrains. He's been brought down to nothing but fart jokes. Must be talking about you.

Wildcard
You are an old, out-of-shape, senile piece-of-shit that continually spreads lie after lie about 9/11.
GO FUCK YOURSELF
!


Funny how I don't feel Old and how I still manage to take care of 2 1/2 lots and act as a full time caregiver, and still fulfill my role as Commander of an American legion Post and be so far out of shape. Not to mention the volunteer hours at the local VA Center.....So bring it on child, but keep it here instead of my message board.....

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFe83VAocSQ]Worthless Piece of Shit - YouTube[/ame]
 
The distance between the two points is 310 feet of a seriously reinforced building.

but at the same time they say it was the nose cone that tore through three reinforced rings of the building and caused the exit hole.

Reinforced rings huh?

Please tell us what you THINK you know about those rings being reinforced. Are you suggesting that the 2 walls of each ring were reinforced?

Explain.

A Boeing 757 did not hit the Pentagon
by Michael Meyer, Mechanical Engineer
To the members of the Scientific Panel Investigating Nine-Eleven:

I would like to give you my input as to the events on September 11, and why it is a physically provable fact that some of the damage done to the Pentagon could not have occurred from a Boeing 757 impact, and therefore the 9/11 Commission report is not complete and arguably a cover-up. I will not speculate about what may have been covered up, I will only speak from my professional opinion. But I will explain why I do not believe the Pentagon was hit by a Boeing 757.

I am a Mechanical Engineer who spent many years in Aerospace, including structural design, and in the design, and use of shaped charge explosives (like those that would be used in missile warheads).

The structural design of a large aircraft like a 757 is based around managing the structural loads of a pressurized vessel, the cabin, to near-atmospheric conditions while at the lower pressure region of cruising altitudes, and to handle the structural and aerodynamic loads of the wings, control surfaces, and the fuel load. It is made as light as possible, and is certainly not made to handle impact loads of any kind.

If a 757 were to strike a reinforced concrete wall, the energy from the speed and weight of the aircraft will be transferred, in part into the wall, and to the structural failure of the aircraft. It is not too far of an analogy as if you had an empty aluminum can, traveling at high speed hitting a reinforced concrete wall. The aluminum can would crumple (the proper engineering term is buckle) and, depending on the structural integrity of the wall, crack, crumble or fail completely. The wall failure would not be a neat little hole, as the energy of the impact would be spread throughout the wall by the reinforcing steel.

This is difficult to model accurately, as any high speed, high energy, impact of a complex structure like an aircraft, into a discontinuous wall with windows etc. is difficult. What is known is that nearly all of the energy from this event would be dissipated in the initial impact, and subsequent buckling of the aircraft.

We are lead to believe that not only did the 757 penetrate the outer wall, but continued on to penetrate separate internal walls totaling 9 feet of reinforced concrete. The final breach of concrete was a nearly perfectly cut circular hole (see below) in a reinforced concrete wall, with no subsequent damage to the rest of the wall. (If we are to believe that somehow this aluminum aircraft did in fact reach this sixth final wall.)


EXIT HOLE IN PENTAGON RING-C
American Airlines Flight 77, a Boeing 757, is alleged to have punched through 6 blast-resistant concrete walls‹a total of nine feet of reinforced concrete‹before exiting through this hole.


It is physically impossible for the wall to have failed in a neat clean cut circle, period. When I first saw this hole, a chill went down my spine because I knew it was not possible to have a reinforced concrete wall fail in this manner, it should have caved in, in some fashion.

How do you create a nice clean hole in a reinforced concrete wall? with an explosive shaped charge. An explosive shaped charge, or cutting charge is used in various military warhead devices. You design the geometry of the explosive charge so that you create a focused line of energy. You essentially focus nearly all of the explosive energy in what is referred to as a jet. You use this jet to cut and penetrate armor on a tank, or the walls of a bunker. The signature is clear and unmistakable. In a missile, the explosive charge is circular to allow the payload behind the initial shaped charge to enter whatever has been penetrated.

I do not know what happened on 9/11, I do not know how politics works in this country, I can not explain why the mainstream media does not report on the problems with the 9/11 Commission. But I am an engineer, and I know what happens in high speed impacts, and how shaped charges are used to "cut" through materials.

I have not addressed several other major gaps in the Pentagon/757 incident. The fact that this aircraft somehow ripped several light towers clean out of the ground without any damage to the aircraft (which I also feel is impossible), the fact that the two main engines were never recovered from the wreckage, and the fact that our government has direct video coverage of the flight path, and impact, from at least a gas station and hotel, which they have refused to release.

You can call me a "tin hat", crazy, conspiracy theory, etc, but I can say from my expertise that the damage at the Pentagon was not caused by a Boeing 757.

Sincerely,
Michael Meyer


The portion of the building that had been struck had already been renovated. It was the only area of the Pentagon with a sprinkler system, and it had been reconstructed with a web of steel columns and bars to withstand bomb blasts. The steel reinforcement, bolted together to form a continuous structure through all of the Pentagon's five floors, kept that section of the building from collapsing for 30 minutes

The area struck also had blast-resistant windows--2 inches thick and 2,500 pounds each--that stayed intact during the crash and fire. It had fire doors that opened automatically and newly built exits that allowed people to get out.

The rest of the Pentagon would not have fared as well.
 
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The distance between the two points is 310 feet of a seriously reinforced building.

but at the same time they say it was the nose cone that tore through three reinforced rings of the building and caused the exit hole.

Reinforced rings huh?

Please tell us what you THINK you know about those rings being reinforced. Are you suggesting that the 2 walls of each ring were reinforced?

Explain.

A Boeing 757 did not hit the Pentagon
by Michael Meyer, Mechanical Engineer
To the members of the Scientific Panel Investigating Nine-Eleven:

I would like to give you my input as to the events on September 11, and why it is a physically provable fact that some of the damage done to the Pentagon could not have occurred from a Boeing 757 impact, and therefore the 9/11 Commission report is not complete and arguably a cover-up. I will not speculate about what may have been covered up, I will only speak from my professional opinion. But I will explain why I do not believe the Pentagon was hit by a Boeing 757.

I am a Mechanical Engineer who spent many years in Aerospace, including structural design, and in the design, and use of shaped charge explosives (like those that would be used in missile warheads).

The structural design of a large aircraft like a 757 is based around managing the structural loads of a pressurized vessel, the cabin, to near-atmospheric conditions while at the lower pressure region of cruising altitudes, and to handle the structural and aerodynamic loads of the wings, control surfaces, and the fuel load. It is made as light as possible, and is certainly not made to handle impact loads of any kind.

If a 757 were to strike a reinforced concrete wall, the energy from the speed and weight of the aircraft will be transferred, in part into the wall, and to the structural failure of the aircraft. It is not too far of an analogy as if you had an empty aluminum can, traveling at high speed hitting a reinforced concrete wall. The aluminum can would crumple (the proper engineering term is buckle) and, depending on the structural integrity of the wall, crack, crumble or fail completely. The wall failure would not be a neat little hole, as the energy of the impact would be spread throughout the wall by the reinforcing steel.

This is difficult to model accurately, as any high speed, high energy, impact of a complex structure like an aircraft, into a discontinuous wall with windows etc. is difficult. What is known is that nearly all of the energy from this event would be dissipated in the initial impact, and subsequent buckling of the aircraft.

We are lead to believe that not only did the 757 penetrate the outer wall, but continued on to penetrate separate internal walls totaling 9 feet of reinforced concrete. The final breach of concrete was a nearly perfectly cut circular hole (see below) in a reinforced concrete wall, with no subsequent damage to the rest of the wall. (If we are to believe that somehow this aluminum aircraft did in fact reach this sixth final wall.)


EXIT HOLE IN PENTAGON RING-C
American Airlines Flight 77, a Boeing 757, is alleged to have punched through 6 blast-resistant concrete walls‹a total of nine feet of reinforced concrete‹before exiting through this hole.


It is physically impossible for the wall to have failed in a neat clean cut circle, period. When I first saw this hole, a chill went down my spine because I knew it was not possible to have a reinforced concrete wall fail in this manner, it should have caved in, in some fashion.

How do you create a nice clean hole in a reinforced concrete wall? with an explosive shaped charge. An explosive shaped charge, or cutting charge is used in various military warhead devices. You design the geometry of the explosive charge so that you create a focused line of energy. You essentially focus nearly all of the explosive energy in what is referred to as a jet. You use this jet to cut and penetrate armor on a tank, or the walls of a bunker. The signature is clear and unmistakable. In a missile, the explosive charge is circular to allow the payload behind the initial shaped charge to enter whatever has been penetrated.

I do not know what happened on 9/11, I do not know how politics works in this country, I can not explain why the mainstream media does not report on the problems with the 9/11 Commission. But I am an engineer, and I know what happens in high speed impacts, and how shaped charges are used to "cut" through materials.

I have not addressed several other major gaps in the Pentagon/757 incident. The fact that this aircraft somehow ripped several light towers clean out of the ground without any damage to the aircraft (which I also feel is impossible), the fact that the two main engines were never recovered from the wreckage, and the fact that our government has direct video coverage of the flight path, and impact, from at least a gas station and hotel, which they have refused to release.

You can call me a "tin hat", crazy, conspiracy theory, etc, but I can say from my expertise that the damage at the Pentagon was not caused by a Boeing 757.

Sincerely,
Michael Meyer


The portion of the building that had been struck had already been renovated. It was the only area of the Pentagon with a sprinkler system, and it had been reconstructed with a web of steel columns and bars to withstand bomb blasts. The steel reinforcement, bolted together to form a continuous structure through all of the Pentagon's five floors, kept that section of the building from collapsing for 30 minutes

The area struck also had blast-resistant windows--2 inches thick and 2,500 pounds each--that stayed intact during the crash and fire. It had fire doors that opened automatically and newly built exits that allowed people to get out.

The rest of the Pentagon would not have fared as well.

FACT: Blast expert Allyn E. Kilsheimer was the first structural engineer to arrive at the Pentagon after the crash and helped coordinate the emergency response. "It was absolutely a plane, and I'll tell you why," says Kilsheimer, CEO of KCE Structural Engineers PC, Washington, D.C. "I saw the marks of the plane wing on the face of the building. I picked up parts of the plane with the airline markings on them. I held in my hand the tail section of the plane, and I found the black box." Kilsheimer's eyewitness account is backed up by photos of plane wreckage inside and outside the building. Kilsheimer adds: "I held parts of uniforms from crew members in my hands, including body parts. Okay?"

Read more: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories - Debunking the Myths - Pentagon - Popular Mechanics
 
Child you just don't pay attention, When you quote a source that is wrong then you are just as wrong.

One more time, what was the inner walls of the Pentagon made of? Hint, only the outer wall is reinforced....

Then go ask your source where all those pieces of a 757 came from? How did they get all those bodies and pieces of bodies planted. What knocked down 5 lamp poles?

You see, your story is so full of holes and questions, you can't answer them....
 
Child you just don't pay attention, When you quote a source that is wrong then you are just as wrong.

One more time, what was the inner walls of the Pentagon made of? Hint, only the outer wall is reinforced....

Then go ask your source where all those pieces of a 757 came from? How did they get all those bodies and pieces of bodies planted. What knocked down 5 lamp poles?

You see, your story is so full of holes and questions, you can't answer them....

Because the truth interferes with the boy's fantasies.
He probably thinks that which is in his hand is really, really large.
 
Reinforced rings huh?

Please tell us what you THINK you know about those rings being reinforced. Are you suggesting that the 2 walls of each ring were reinforced?

Explain.

A Boeing 757 did not hit the Pentagon
by Michael Meyer, Mechanical Engineer
To the members of the Scientific Panel Investigating Nine-Eleven:

I would like to give you my input as to the events on September 11, and why it is a physically provable fact that some of the damage done to the Pentagon could not have occurred from a Boeing 757 impact, and therefore the 9/11 Commission report is not complete and arguably a cover-up. I will not speculate about what may have been covered up, I will only speak from my professional opinion. But I will explain why I do not believe the Pentagon was hit by a Boeing 757.

I am a Mechanical Engineer who spent many years in Aerospace, including structural design, and in the design, and use of shaped charge explosives (like those that would be used in missile warheads).

The structural design of a large aircraft like a 757 is based around managing the structural loads of a pressurized vessel, the cabin, to near-atmospheric conditions while at the lower pressure region of cruising altitudes, and to handle the structural and aerodynamic loads of the wings, control surfaces, and the fuel load. It is made as light as possible, and is certainly not made to handle impact loads of any kind.

If a 757 were to strike a reinforced concrete wall, the energy from the speed and weight of the aircraft will be transferred, in part into the wall, and to the structural failure of the aircraft. It is not too far of an analogy as if you had an empty aluminum can, traveling at high speed hitting a reinforced concrete wall. The aluminum can would crumple (the proper engineering term is buckle) and, depending on the structural integrity of the wall, crack, crumble or fail completely. The wall failure would not be a neat little hole, as the energy of the impact would be spread throughout the wall by the reinforcing steel.

This is difficult to model accurately, as any high speed, high energy, impact of a complex structure like an aircraft, into a discontinuous wall with windows etc. is difficult. What is known is that nearly all of the energy from this event would be dissipated in the initial impact, and subsequent buckling of the aircraft.

We are lead to believe that not only did the 757 penetrate the outer wall, but continued on to penetrate separate internal walls totaling 9 feet of reinforced concrete. The final breach of concrete was a nearly perfectly cut circular hole (see below) in a reinforced concrete wall, with no subsequent damage to the rest of the wall. (If we are to believe that somehow this aluminum aircraft did in fact reach this sixth final wall.)


EXIT HOLE IN PENTAGON RING-C
American Airlines Flight 77, a Boeing 757, is alleged to have punched through 6 blast-resistant concrete walls‹a total of nine feet of reinforced concrete‹before exiting through this hole.


It is physically impossible for the wall to have failed in a neat clean cut circle, period. When I first saw this hole, a chill went down my spine because I knew it was not possible to have a reinforced concrete wall fail in this manner, it should have caved in, in some fashion.

How do you create a nice clean hole in a reinforced concrete wall? with an explosive shaped charge. An explosive shaped charge, or cutting charge is used in various military warhead devices. You design the geometry of the explosive charge so that you create a focused line of energy. You essentially focus nearly all of the explosive energy in what is referred to as a jet. You use this jet to cut and penetrate armor on a tank, or the walls of a bunker. The signature is clear and unmistakable. In a missile, the explosive charge is circular to allow the payload behind the initial shaped charge to enter whatever has been penetrated.

I do not know what happened on 9/11, I do not know how politics works in this country, I can not explain why the mainstream media does not report on the problems with the 9/11 Commission. But I am an engineer, and I know what happens in high speed impacts, and how shaped charges are used to "cut" through materials.

I have not addressed several other major gaps in the Pentagon/757 incident. The fact that this aircraft somehow ripped several light towers clean out of the ground without any damage to the aircraft (which I also feel is impossible), the fact that the two main engines were never recovered from the wreckage, and the fact that our government has direct video coverage of the flight path, and impact, from at least a gas station and hotel, which they have refused to release.

You can call me a "tin hat", crazy, conspiracy theory, etc, but I can say from my expertise that the damage at the Pentagon was not caused by a Boeing 757.

Sincerely,
Michael Meyer


The portion of the building that had been struck had already been renovated. It was the only area of the Pentagon with a sprinkler system, and it had been reconstructed with a web of steel columns and bars to withstand bomb blasts. The steel reinforcement, bolted together to form a continuous structure through all of the Pentagon's five floors, kept that section of the building from collapsing for 30 minutes

The area struck also had blast-resistant windows--2 inches thick and 2,500 pounds each--that stayed intact during the crash and fire. It had fire doors that opened automatically and newly built exits that allowed people to get out.

The rest of the Pentagon would not have fared as well.

FACT: Blast expert Allyn E. Kilsheimer was the first structural engineer to arrive at the Pentagon after the crash and helped coordinate the emergency response. "It was absolutely a plane, and I'll tell you why," says Kilsheimer, CEO of KCE Structural Engineers PC, Washington, D.C. "I saw the marks of the plane wing on the face of the building. I picked up parts of the plane with the airline markings on them. I held in my hand the tail section of the plane, and I found the black box." Kilsheimer's eyewitness account is backed up by photos of plane wreckage inside and outside the building. Kilsheimer adds: "I held parts of uniforms from crew members in my hands, including body parts. Okay?"

Read more: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories - Debunking the Myths - Pentagon - Popular Mechanics

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FACT: What you posted is a bullshit lie. Now pay attention SAYIT

I held in my hand the tail section of the plane,


The first statement which may stand out to many is how can any human hold a whole 757 tail section in their hands? Allen E. Kilsheimer claims he did or should I say lied about it.

Where are the photographs of this tail section? No photos exist.

But that is not the most puzzling excerpt from his statement. The most interesting piece from his statement lies in the fact Allyn says he found the black box. No photos of this exist either.

Try again.
 
A Boeing 757 did not hit the Pentagon
by Michael Meyer, Mechanical Engineer
To the members of the Scientific Panel Investigating Nine-Eleven:

I would like to give you my input as to the events on September 11, and why it is a physically provable fact that some of the damage done to the Pentagon could not have occurred from a Boeing 757 impact, and therefore the 9/11 Commission report is not complete and arguably a cover-up. I will not speculate about what may have been covered up, I will only speak from my professional opinion. But I will explain why I do not believe the Pentagon was hit by a Boeing 757.

I am a Mechanical Engineer who spent many years in Aerospace, including structural design, and in the design, and use of shaped charge explosives (like those that would be used in missile warheads).

The structural design of a large aircraft like a 757 is based around managing the structural loads of a pressurized vessel, the cabin, to near-atmospheric conditions while at the lower pressure region of cruising altitudes, and to handle the structural and aerodynamic loads of the wings, control surfaces, and the fuel load. It is made as light as possible, and is certainly not made to handle impact loads of any kind.

If a 757 were to strike a reinforced concrete wall, the energy from the speed and weight of the aircraft will be transferred, in part into the wall, and to the structural failure of the aircraft. It is not too far of an analogy as if you had an empty aluminum can, traveling at high speed hitting a reinforced concrete wall. The aluminum can would crumple (the proper engineering term is buckle) and, depending on the structural integrity of the wall, crack, crumble or fail completely. The wall failure would not be a neat little hole, as the energy of the impact would be spread throughout the wall by the reinforcing steel.

This is difficult to model accurately, as any high speed, high energy, impact of a complex structure like an aircraft, into a discontinuous wall with windows etc. is difficult. What is known is that nearly all of the energy from this event would be dissipated in the initial impact, and subsequent buckling of the aircraft.

We are lead to believe that not only did the 757 penetrate the outer wall, but continued on to penetrate separate internal walls totaling 9 feet of reinforced concrete. The final breach of concrete was a nearly perfectly cut circular hole (see below) in a reinforced concrete wall, with no subsequent damage to the rest of the wall. (If we are to believe that somehow this aluminum aircraft did in fact reach this sixth final wall.)


EXIT HOLE IN PENTAGON RING-C
American Airlines Flight 77, a Boeing 757, is alleged to have punched through 6 blast-resistant concrete walls‹a total of nine feet of reinforced concrete‹before exiting through this hole.


It is physically impossible for the wall to have failed in a neat clean cut circle, period. When I first saw this hole, a chill went down my spine because I knew it was not possible to have a reinforced concrete wall fail in this manner, it should have caved in, in some fashion.

How do you create a nice clean hole in a reinforced concrete wall? with an explosive shaped charge. An explosive shaped charge, or cutting charge is used in various military warhead devices. You design the geometry of the explosive charge so that you create a focused line of energy. You essentially focus nearly all of the explosive energy in what is referred to as a jet. You use this jet to cut and penetrate armor on a tank, or the walls of a bunker. The signature is clear and unmistakable. In a missile, the explosive charge is circular to allow the payload behind the initial shaped charge to enter whatever has been penetrated.

I do not know what happened on 9/11, I do not know how politics works in this country, I can not explain why the mainstream media does not report on the problems with the 9/11 Commission. But I am an engineer, and I know what happens in high speed impacts, and how shaped charges are used to "cut" through materials.

I have not addressed several other major gaps in the Pentagon/757 incident. The fact that this aircraft somehow ripped several light towers clean out of the ground without any damage to the aircraft (which I also feel is impossible), the fact that the two main engines were never recovered from the wreckage, and the fact that our government has direct video coverage of the flight path, and impact, from at least a gas station and hotel, which they have refused to release.

You can call me a "tin hat", crazy, conspiracy theory, etc, but I can say from my expertise that the damage at the Pentagon was not caused by a Boeing 757.

Sincerely,
Michael Meyer


The portion of the building that had been struck had already been renovated. It was the only area of the Pentagon with a sprinkler system, and it had been reconstructed with a web of steel columns and bars to withstand bomb blasts. The steel reinforcement, bolted together to form a continuous structure through all of the Pentagon's five floors, kept that section of the building from collapsing for 30 minutes

The area struck also had blast-resistant windows--2 inches thick and 2,500 pounds each--that stayed intact during the crash and fire. It had fire doors that opened automatically and newly built exits that allowed people to get out.

The rest of the Pentagon would not have fared as well.

FACT: Blast expert Allyn E. Kilsheimer was the first structural engineer to arrive at the Pentagon after the crash and helped coordinate the emergency response. "It was absolutely a plane, and I'll tell you why," says Kilsheimer, CEO of KCE Structural Engineers PC, Washington, D.C. "I saw the marks of the plane wing on the face of the building. I picked up parts of the plane with the airline markings on them. I held in my hand the tail section of the plane, and I found the black box." Kilsheimer's eyewitness account is backed up by photos of plane wreckage inside and outside the building. Kilsheimer adds: "I held parts of uniforms from crew members in my hands, including body parts. Okay?"

Read more: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories - Debunking the Myths - Pentagon - Popular Mechanics

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FACT: What you posted is a bullshit lie. Now pay attention SAYIT

I held in my hand the tail section of the plane,


The first statement which may stand out to many is how can any human hold a whole 757 tail section in their hands? Allen E. Kilsheimer claims he did or should I say lied about it.

Where are the photographs of this tail section? No photos exist.

But that is not the most puzzling excerpt from his statement. The most interesting piece from his statement lies in the fact Allyn says he found the black box. No photos of this exist either.

Try again.

Woo. You are every bit as dim as you seem.
Who said it was a whole tail and what makes you think he picked it up?
Putting one's hands on what was left of the tail is holding it in one's hands.
You claim, without any support, that Kilsheimer lied yet you accept as truth whatever Meyer, who wasn't even there, said.
How convenient.
 

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