This is Why I Could Never Be a Cop

[bucs90]

While I disagree with Dale, there is a strong independence and self-reliance streak in American culture that is being sadly eroded in todays pop culture.

Cops should be polite and courteous in dealing with the public, but some of these 'sovereign citizen' loons run the concept into the mud with their ridiculous claims and behavior.

We the citizens of the United States ARE sovereign and the government works for US, we dont serve them and they do not rule us.

But we can press that point without engaging in absurdity.

That's 100% right.

I'm perfectly fine...as a former cop....when someone asks those first few questions like "Am I being detained" and asking the legality of the cops action. HOWEVER....once they receive the answer....that's it. Stop arguing and trying to "win" because you won't.

You might get lucky and get a dumb cop....or more likely a disgruntled one who doesn't feel like dealing with it at the time or is about to get off work and doesn't wanna get into a fight or anything.

But eventually these sovereign idiots lose.


Checkpoints??? If they're illegal....a Harvard educated lawyer (or 12) would be down the street with biz cards handing then out for class action lawsuits at every checkpoint.


They arent.

But Dale....and other sovereign rednecks who live off Mountain Dew Code Red and cheap beef jerky......think they know more about the law than all the trial lawyers in America.

 

[Fair&Balanced]

While I disagree with Dale, there is a strong independence and self-reliance streak in American culture that is being sadly eroded in todays pop culture.

Cops should be polite and courteous in dealing with the public, but some of these 'sovereign citizen' loons run the concept into the mud with their ridiculous claims and behavior.

We the citizens of the United States ARE sovereign and the government works for US, we dont serve them and they do not rule us.

But we can press that point without engaging in absurdity.

I think these retards should be arrested for impeding official police duties every fucking time, no different that the "protestors' should be arrested every time they go beyond protesting. That would end the BS.

 

[bucs90]

While I disagree with Dale, there is a strong independence and self-reliance streak in American culture that is being sadly eroded in todays pop culture.

Cops should be polite and courteous in dealing with the public, but some of these 'sovereign citizen' loons run the concept into the mud with their ridiculous claims and behavior.

We the citizens of the United States ARE sovereign and the government works for US, we dont serve them and they do not rule us.

But we can press that point without engaging in absurdity.

I think these retards should be arrested for impeding official police duties every fucking time, no different that the "protestors' should be arrested every time they go beyond protesting. That would end the BS.

I think sovereign citizens should be deported.

Just like transgenders.....if these clowns "identify" as a non-citizen....fine. Then you're being deported like one.

Watch these pussies cry on the plane headed to Mexico "NO NO NO!!! I AM A US CITIZEN!!! I BELIEVE IN AMERICAN LAWS!!!"

 

[Dale Smith]

You are correct but I do have the right to travel which means under the U.S constitution I can use any fucking road or highway that I want to use un-impededed by code enforcers/mall cops with a badge... with or without a license. Do you even know what a license means according to Black's Law Dictionary?

I know what size hole that cop's. 40 S&W is gonna leave coming out of your body if you don't shut your mouth and do what he tells you to.... and I'll be on HIS side if he does it.

I hear this Sovereign Citizen crap constantly and it's total BS so far as I'm concerned. If you want to be a citizen, follow the laws. If not, please go the hell away.

No, dumb ass, it's pre 14th amendment citizenship and "no", I have no desire to be a U.S citizen pledging loyalty to this foreign corporate "gubermint" entity whose headquarters are in Washington D.C. My right to exist on this planet are not "privileges" granted to me by a benevolent "gubermint" that can decide to take those privileges away at their whim. People have got to wake up as to what has been done to them. We are being squeezed and it has gotten monumentally worse since 9/11. This is a nation full of apathetic sheeple.

"Pre" 14th Amendment. Meaning....the Constitution was updated by We The People. You can't nullify the law just because you don't like it.

I never knew you were such a die hard retard.

So let me guess....you think you're also allowed to buy an F16 (if you had the money for one) and fly it around America with no pilots license...and land/take off at any airport you wish because...well....you have a right to travel. Right???


You people should be deported with all the street thugs.

Why don't you do a little research about the REAL meaning of the 14th amendment and how we went from state citizens to being under federal authority before you shoot of your big mouth? Check into what the Act of 1871 was all about. So many people run at the gums before they do any checking and they don't have a fucking clue as to how they became debt slaves. I know more than you. I live and breathe this stuff.

 

[Dale Smith]

While I disagree with Dale, there is a strong independence and self-reliance streak in American culture that is being sadly eroded in todays pop culture.

Cops should be polite and courteous in dealing with the public, but some of these 'sovereign citizen' loons run the concept into the mud with their ridiculous claims and behavior.

We the citizens of the United States ARE sovereign and the government works for US, we dont serve them and they do not rule us.

But we can press that point without engaging in absurdity.

I think these retards should be arrested for impeding official police duties every fucking time, no different that the "protestors' should be arrested every time they go beyond protesting. That would end the BS.

That's a good little communist. Worship at the feet of "da gubermint".

 

[JimBowie1958]

While I disagree with Dale, there is a strong independence and self-reliance streak in American culture that is being sadly eroded in todays pop culture.

Cops should be polite and courteous in dealing with the public, but some of these 'sovereign citizen' loons run the concept into the mud with their ridiculous claims and behavior.

We the citizens of the United States ARE sovereign and the government works for US, we dont serve them and they do not rule us.

But we can press that point without engaging in absurdity.

I think these retards should be arrested for impeding official police duties every fucking time, no different that the "protestors' should be arrested every time they go beyond protesting. That would end the BS.

That's a good little communist. Worship at the feet of "da gubermint".

I dont think that obeying the law, unless it is in and of itself immoral, is to be a communist/totalitarian.

 

[Fair&Balanced]

While I disagree with Dale, there is a strong independence and self-reliance streak in American culture that is being sadly eroded in todays pop culture.

Cops should be polite and courteous in dealing with the public, but some of these 'sovereign citizen' loons run the concept into the mud with their ridiculous claims and behavior.

We the citizens of the United States ARE sovereign and the government works for US, we dont serve them and they do not rule us.

But we can press that point without engaging in absurdity.

I think these retards should be arrested for impeding official police duties every fucking time, no different that the "protestors' should be arrested every time they go beyond protesting. That would end the BS.

That's a good little communist. Worship at the feet of "da gubermint".

I worship law and order. You bet. I'll own that all day every day.

 

[bucs90]

You are correct but I do have the right to travel which means under the U.S constitution I can use any fucking road or highway that I want to use un-impededed by code enforcers/mall cops with a badge... with or without a license. Do you even know what a license means according to Black's Law Dictionary?

I know what size hole that cop's. 40 S&W is gonna leave coming out of your body if you don't shut your mouth and do what he tells you to.... and I'll be on HIS side if he does it.

I hear this Sovereign Citizen crap constantly and it's total BS so far as I'm concerned. If you want to be a citizen, follow the laws. If not, please go the hell away.

No, dumb ass, it's pre 14th amendment citizenship and "no", I have no desire to be a U.S citizen pledging loyalty to this foreign corporate "gubermint" entity whose headquarters are in Washington D.C. My right to exist on this planet are not "privileges" granted to me by a benevolent "gubermint" that can decide to take those privileges away at their whim. People have got to wake up as to what has been done to them. We are being squeezed and it has gotten monumentally worse since 9/11. This is a nation full of apathetic sheeple.

"Pre" 14th Amendment. Meaning....the Constitution was updated by We The People. You can't nullify the law just because you don't like it.

I never knew you were such a die hard retard.

So let me guess....you think you're also allowed to buy an F16 (if you had the money for one) and fly it around America with no pilots license...and land/take off at any airport you wish because...well....you have a right to travel. Right???


You people should be deported with all the street thugs.

Why don't you do a little research about the REAL meaning of the 14th amendment and how we went from state citizens to being under federal authority before you shoot of your big mouth? Check into what the Act of 1871 was all about. So many people run at the gums before they do any checking and they don't have a fucking clue as to how they became debt slaves. I know more than you. I live and breathe this stuff.

Are you a practicing lawyer??? If not...then no...you don't know more than me on the law.

But I'll play along with your childish fantasy world. How am I a "debt slave"??? See...I'm debt free. Yes. Debt free. Not even a credit card payment.

Ooooh....because I have to pay taxes? Including property taxes?? Oh the horror!!! But....i have an alarm on my home. And....the cops or firemen who rush to help if that alarm goes off....my taxes pay for that. Oh....awesome. Good deal there.


I dealt with more of you sovereign citizen morons in North Georgia than i care to remember. If you want to play the game you'll lose....because you're so incredibly wrong.

 

[Dale Smith]

While I disagree with Dale, there is a strong independence and self-reliance streak in American culture that is being sadly eroded in todays pop culture.

Cops should be polite and courteous in dealing with the public, but some of these 'sovereign citizen' loons run the concept into the mud with their ridiculous claims and behavior.

We the citizens of the United States ARE sovereign and the government works for US, we dont serve them and they do not rule us.

But we can press that point without engaging in absurdity.

I think these retards should be arrested for impeding official police duties every fucking time, no different that the "protestors' should be arrested every time they go beyond protesting. That would end the BS.

That's a good little communist. Worship at the feet of "da gubermint".

I dont think that obeying the law, unless it is in and of itself immoral, is to be a communist/totalitarian.

Do you understand what "implied consent" means? What it means is that if you don't protest or refuse that your silence implies consent. If I am walking down the street and a cop comes up to me and asks for my ID, I am not BY law obligated to do so nor can he detain me unless he claims that I have broken a law and he must state it at that time. He cannot go through your vehicle without a warrant signed by a judge but people allow it all the time because they are intimidated. If people do not stand up for what few rights they have left under this police state, even those will be gone. I would not have handled the situation the way these people did because I know the process for "refusal to contract" using a notary republic. Excepting the ticket does not mean you are contracting at the time of the ticket.

 

[bucs90]

Ok Dale. I'm off today and a bit bored. You're gonna be my target for humiliation because...well...you deserve it. Since I can't sit you in a 26 week police academy to learn the law....I'm just gonna slowly take you apart one piece at a time.

Let's start with some basics.

Pseudolaw

I want a challenge. So I'll let you brush up on the above link before I send in the dogs. Let you see if you want the humiliation coming your way.

 

[bucs90]

While I disagree with Dale, there is a strong independence and self-reliance streak in American culture that is being sadly eroded in todays pop culture.

Cops should be polite and courteous in dealing with the public, but some of these 'sovereign citizen' loons run the concept into the mud with their ridiculous claims and behavior.

We the citizens of the United States ARE sovereign and the government works for US, we dont serve them and they do not rule us.

But we can press that point without engaging in absurdity.

I think these retards should be arrested for impeding official police duties every fucking time, no different that the "protestors' should be arrested every time they go beyond protesting. That would end the BS.

That's a good little communist. Worship at the feet of "da gubermint".

I dont think that obeying the law, unless it is in and of itself immoral, is to be a communist/totalitarian.

Do you understand what "implied consent" means? What it means is that if you don't protest or refuse that your silence implies consent. If I am walking down the street and a cop comes up to me and asks for my ID, I am not BY law obligated to do so nor can he detain me unless he claims that I have broken a law and he must state it at that time. He cannot go through your vehicle without a warrant signed by a judge but people allow it all the time because they are intimidated. If people do not stand up for what few rights they have left under this police state, even those will be gone. I would not have handled the situation the way these people did because I know the process for "refusal to contract" using a notary republic. Excepting the ticket does not mean you are contracting at the time of the ticket.

Terry vs Ohio
Maryland vs Wilson
Carroll Doctrine

ONCE AGAIN.....the Supreme Court has proven Dale to be WRONG.


And it's "accepting" the ticket. Not "excepting".

 

[Dale Smith]

While I disagree with Dale, there is a strong independence and self-reliance streak in American culture that is being sadly eroded in todays pop culture.

Cops should be polite and courteous in dealing with the public, but some of these 'sovereign citizen' loons run the concept into the mud with their ridiculous claims and behavior.

We the citizens of the United States ARE sovereign and the government works for US, we dont serve them and they do not rule us.

But we can press that point without engaging in absurdity.

I think these retards should be arrested for impeding official police duties every fucking time, no different that the "protestors' should be arrested every time they go beyond protesting. That would end the BS.

That's a good little communist. Worship at the feet of "da gubermint".

I worship law and order. You bet. I'll own that all day every day.

We don't have "laws"....corporations cannot make laws under the UCC. They pass acts, statutes and codes....like the Patriot Act, Healthcare Act, etc, etc most of which are passed in order to create revenue for the corporation. Revenue derived by fines and fees for violations of the 80,000 plus acts, statutes and codes has gone up 600 percent since 1980.

 

[Dale Smith]

You are correct but I do have the right to travel which means under the U.S constitution I can use any fucking road or highway that I want to use un-impededed by code enforcers/mall cops with a badge... with or without a license. Do you even know what a license means according to Black's Law Dictionary?

I know what size hole that cop's. 40 S&W is gonna leave coming out of your body if you don't shut your mouth and do what he tells you to.... and I'll be on HIS side if he does it.

I hear this Sovereign Citizen crap constantly and it's total BS so far as I'm concerned. If you want to be a citizen, follow the laws. If not, please go the hell away.

No, dumb ass, it's pre 14th amendment citizenship and "no", I have no desire to be a U.S citizen pledging loyalty to this foreign corporate "gubermint" entity whose headquarters are in Washington D.C. My right to exist on this planet are not "privileges" granted to me by a benevolent "gubermint" that can decide to take those privileges away at their whim. People have got to wake up as to what has been done to them. We are being squeezed and it has gotten monumentally worse since 9/11. This is a nation full of apathetic sheeple.

"Pre" 14th Amendment. Meaning....the Constitution was updated by We The People. You can't nullify the law just because you don't like it.

I never knew you were such a die hard retard.

So let me guess....you think you're also allowed to buy an F16 (if you had the money for one) and fly it around America with no pilots license...and land/take off at any airport you wish because...well....you have a right to travel. Right???


You people should be deported with all the street thugs.

Why don't you do a little research about the REAL meaning of the 14th amendment and how we went from state citizens to being under federal authority before you shoot of your big mouth? Check into what the Act of 1871 was all about. So many people run at the gums before they do any checking and they don't have a fucking clue as to how they became debt slaves. I know more than you. I live and breathe this stuff.

Are you a practicing lawyer??? If not...then no...you don't know more than me on the law.

But I'll play along with your childish fantasy world. How am I a "debt slave"??? See...I'm debt free. Yes. Debt free. Not even a credit card payment.

Ooooh....because I have to pay taxes? Including property taxes?? Oh the horror!!! But....i have an alarm on my home. And....the cops or firemen who rush to help if that alarm goes off....my taxes pay for that. Oh....awesome. Good deal there.


I dealt with more of you sovereign citizen morons in North Georgia than i care to remember. If you want to play the game you'll lose....because you're so incredibly wrong.

Well, I am working today and can only post sporadically but this is something I wrote awhile back. This is a good start and this is all easily validated.

We are not free.....at least not in the true sense of the word and we have never been truly free, at least not in our lifetime. What we were taught in school about our history was a complete and total lie. The 13th amendment did not free the slaves but rather it made all of us subject to VOLUNTARY servitude. The 14 amendment made us all subjects of the USA.INC that was finally incorporated with the Act of 1871 where we know longer had rights but privileges. The enslavement of the people of this country had to happen in stages because a full frontal assault would have never been allowed to happen...even as illiterate as most people were back then...... the fact is, the international bankers took control of a big piece of the American pie due to the debt created by the Civil War even in spite of Lincoln' greenback dollar.

The next stage was the insertion of Rothschild agents like the Rockefeller family, the Harrimans, DuPonts, House of Morgan, Carnegie and eventually even funded Henry Ford to set up monopolies. The game Monopoly is all about the Rothschilds giving seed money to select few in order for them to monopolize industries like steel, chemicals, oil, the railroads, banking to fund them and the horseless carriage where they worked out sweet deals between each other in order to drive out and break competition. This is what happened during the industrial age but the biggest prize was complete control of our money supply...that was the sweetest plum on the tree. They used their wealth and influence to cause the panics of 1907 and 1910 that caused a run on the banks. This made the people clamor for a cure to the very problem that they caused. So they came up with the Federal Reserve Act which was passed in 1913 when most of Congress was heading home on Christmas vacation. But as a side note (and in order to move Woodrow Wilson to sign off on this), USA.INC declared bankruptcy in 1912 and it was JP Morgan, using Rothschild silver that bailed out the banks temporarily.USA.INC was broke and had twenty years to pay of the debt. Enter the Federal Reserve Act and the international bankers that took control over the printing press. The international bankers got what they wanted....which was control over our money system...like Mayer Amschel Rothschild said "Give me control of a nation's currency and I care not whom makes their laws"....

So, now America is entering the roaring 20's and the bankers of the Fed affiliated banks are lending out money allowing people to buy a 100 dollars worth of stock for ten dollars down...but there was a hitch.....a margin call could be called at any time. People are making money hand over fist and life is good. At the peak of the market, the international bankers and their agents silently pull out of the market and then make the dreaded margin call. Stockholders run to the unaffiliated banks to pull out what they believe is where their money is stored only to find out that there isn't enough in the vaults to pay back their debt.....so the market crashes and these thieving bastards rush in and buy up controlling shares of the corporations that they coveted and bought up unaffiliated banks assuring them that they would insure part of the deposits of the people. It was one of the biggest heists in the history of the world.

Now to explain as to how the Crash of 1929 was artificially created, From 1923 until 1929, the Fed inflated the money supply by over 60 percent and most of it was used to invest in the stock market and then suddenly reversed it's easy money policy as this was when the balloon was about to pop. The bankers pulled out of the market and made tremendous profits while it was high. The House of Rothschild did the same thing to the British market as they did to Wall Street during the war between Britain and France. Back in those days only couriers were allowed to go through enemy lines. Rothschild had a courier that made it through a full 24 hours before the others did and reported that Napoleon had been defeated. Rothschild started unloading his British bonds and others watching this figured that Rothschild had inside information and followed suit thinking that France had won.......prices plunged and Rothschild agents swooped into buy up those bonds for pennies on the dollar. In one day Nathan Rothschild ended up owning the British monetary system. They repeated the same thing with the Crash of 1929. What is so ironic and sad about this was the that Federal Reserve central bank was sold to the American people as a safe guard against the very thing that they caused. Seven million people died during the Depression due to starvation and mal-nutrition all so a bunch of greedy bankers could own what was left.

Due to USA.INC not being able to pay their debt or re-organize from the bankruptcy of 1912 after the twenty year period was up. FDR dissolved the standing Federal government with the Emergency Banking Act of 1933 (48 Stat.1, Public Law 89-719 as it was bankrupt and insolvent. Due to this bankruptcy, all new money has to be borrowed into existence. All states started issuing serial-numbered, certificated “warehouse receipts” for births and marriages in order to pledge us as collateral against those loans and municipal bonds taken out with the Federal Reserve’s banks. The “Full faith and Credit” of the American people is said to be that which back the nation’s debt. That simply means the American people’s ability to labor and pay back that debt. In essence, we became a surety on the debt as our birth certificates were "monetized" being that they were printed on bond paper and using actuary tables, they attach a starting value based on what you will earn, the taxes and fees you pay. The bank made themselves the trustee of that bond and will collect the balance of it when you die with the death certificate.

This is a speech given by James Traficant, a democrat rep from Ohio that dared to tell the truth....now you know why he was drummed out of politics and put in jail on trumped up charges. It's an excellent essay on what has been done to us and is something you should all read.


Speaker-Rep. James Traficant, Jr. (Ohio) addressing the House:

"Mr. Speaker, we are here now in chapter 11.. Members of Congress are official trustees presiding over the greatest reorganization of any Bankrupt entity in world history, the U.S. Government. We are setting forth hopefully, a blueprint for our future. There are some who say it is a coroner’s report that will lead to our demise.

It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1, Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and insolvent. H.J.R. 192, 73rd Congress m session June 5, 1933 - Joint Resolution To Suspend The Gold Standard and Abrogate The Gold Clause dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official capacities of all United States Governmental Offices, Officers, and Departments and is further evidence that the United States Federal Government exists today in name only.

The receivers of the United States Bankruptcy are the International Bankers, via the United Nations, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. All United States Offices, Officials, and Departments are now operating within a de facto status in name only under Emergency War Powers. With the Constitutional Republican form of Government now dissolved, the receivers of the Bankruptcy have adopted a new form of government for the United States. This new form of government is known as a Democracy, being an established Socialist/Communist order under a new governor for America. This act was instituted and established by transferring and/or placing the Office of the Secretary of Treasury to that of the Governor of the International Monetary Fund. Public Law 94-564, page 8, Section H.R. 13955 reads in part: "The U.S. Secretary of Treasury receives no compensation for representing the United States?’

Gold and silver were such a powerful money during the founding of the united states of America, that the founding fathers declared that only gold or silver coins can be "money" in America. Since gold and silver coinage were heavy and inconvenient for a lot of transactions, they were stored in banks and a claim check was issued as a money substitute. People traded their coupons as money, or "currency." Currency is not money, but a money substitute. Redeemable currency must promise to pay a dollar equivalent in gold or silver money. Federal Reserve Notes (FRNs) make no such promises, and are not "money." A Federal Reserve Note is a debt obligation of the federal United States government, not "money?’ The federal United States government and the U.S. Congress were not and have never been authorized by the Constitution for the united states of America to issue currency of any kind, but only lawful money, -gold and silver coin.

It is essential that we comprehend the distinction between real money and paper money substitute. One cannot get rich by accumulating money substitutes, one can only get deeper into debt. We the People no longer have any "money." Most Americans have not been paid any "money" for a very long time, perhaps not in their entire life. Now do you comprehend why you feel broke? Now, do you understand why you are "bankrupt," along with the rest of the country?

Federal Reserve Notes (FRNs) are unsigned checks written on a closed account. FRNs are an inflatable paper system designed to create debt through inflation (devaluation of currency). when ever there is an increase of the supply of a money substitute in the economy without a corresponding increase in the gold and silver backing, inflation occurs.

Inflation is an invisible form of taxation that irresponsible governments inflict on their citizens. The Federal Reserve Bank who controls the supply and movement of FRNs has everybody fooled. They have access to an unlimited supply of FRNs, paying only for the printing costs of what they need. FRNs are nothing more than promissory notes for U.S. Treasury securities (T-Bills) - a promise to pay the debt to the Federal Reserve Bank.

There is a fundamental difference between "paying" and "discharging" a debt. To pay a debt, you must pay with value or substance (i.e. gold, silver, barter or a commodity). With FRNs, you can only discharge a debt. You cannot pay a debt with a debt currency system. You cannot service a debt with a currency that has no backing in value or substance. No contract in Common law is valid unless it involves an exchange of "good & valuable consideration." Unpayable debt transfers power and control to the sovereign power structure that has no interest in money, law, equity or justice because they have so much wealth already.

Their lust is for power and control. Since the inception of central banking, they have controlled the fates of nations.

The Federal Reserve System is based on the Canon law and the principles of sovereignty protected in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. In fact, the international bankers used a "Canon Law Trust" as their model, adding stock and naming it a "Joint Stock Trust." The U.S. Congress had passed a law making it illegal for any legal "person" to duplicate a "Joint Stock Trust" in 1873. The Federal Reserve Act was legislated post-facto (to 1870), although post-facto laws are strictly forbidden by the Constitution. [13]

The Federal Reserve System is a sovereign power structure separate and distinct from the federal United States government. The Federal Reserve is a maritime lender, and/or maritime insurance underwriter to the federal United States operating exclusively under Admiralty/Maritime law. The lender or underwriter bears the risks, and the Maritime law compelling specific performance in paying the interest, or premiums are the same.

Assets of the debtor can also be hypothecated (to pledge something as a security without taking possession of it.) as security by the lender or underwriter. The Federal Reserve Act stipulated that the interest on the debt was to be paid in gold. There was no stipulation in the Federal Reserve Act for ever paying the principle.

Prior to 1913, most Americans owned clear, allodial title to property, free and clear of any liens or mortgages until the Federal Reserve Act (1913)

"Hypothecated" all property within the federal United States to the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve, -in which the Trustees (stockholders) held legal title. The U.S. citizen (tenant, franchisee) was registered as a "beneficiary" of the trust via his/her birth certificate. In 1933, the federal United States hypothecated all of the present and future properties, assets and labor of their "subjects," the 14th Amendment U.S. citizen, to the Federal Reserve System.

In return, the Federal Reserve System agreed to extend the federal United States corporation all the credit "money substitute" it needed. Like any other debtor, the federal United States government had to assign collateral and security to their creditors as a condition of the loan. Since the federal United States didn’t have any assets, they assigned the private property of their "economic slaves", the U.S. citizens as collateral against the unpayable federal debt. They also pledged the unincorporated federal territories, national parks forests, birth certificates, and nonprofit organizations, as collateral against the federal debt. All has already been transferred as payment to the international bankers.

Unwittingly, America has returned to its pre-American Revolution, feudal roots whereby all land is held by a sovereign and the common people had no rights to hold allodial title to property. Once again, We the People are the tenants and sharecroppers renting our own property from a Sovereign in the guise of the Federal Reserve Bank. We the people have exchanged one master for another.

This has been going on for over eighty years without the "informed knowledge" of the American people, without a voice protesting loud enough. Now it’s easy to grasp why America is fundamentally bankrupt.

Why don’t more people own their properties outright?

Why are 90% of Americans mortgaged to the hilt and have little or no assets after all debts and liabilities have been paid? Why does it feel like you are working harder and harder and getting less and less?

We are reaping what has been sown, and the results of our harvest is a painful bankruptcy, and a foreclosure on American property, precious liberties, and a way of life. Few of our elected representatives in Washington, D.C. have dared to tell the truth. The federal United States is bankrupt. Our children will inherit this unpayable debt, and the tyranny to enforce paying it.

America has become completely bankrupt in world leadership, financial credit and its reputation for courage, vision and human rights. This is an undeclared economic war, bankruptcy, and economic slavery of the most corrupt order! Wake up America! Take back your Country."

 

[bucs90]

Dales silly "Right to Travel" argument??? It was originally (before cars existed) meant as a right to go from one state to another. Kinda like how the EU allows free travel to go from one EU member into another.

So....if....say....Texas wanted to build a wall and keep all non-Texans out of Texas....they cant. Citizens of 1 state can "travel" to all 50. The "right to travel" allows the act of movement.

But....does it void the ability of a state to regulate the device which you travel in? No. 10th Amendment.

States are allowed to regulate this. The Federal Law didn't originally include traffic laws because cars didn't exist. And it didn't FORBID traffic law regulation...because cars didn't exist.

So....yes....states can enforce traffic laws of their state.

The act of passing from Virginia into North Carolina unimpeded is your "right to travel".

However....while on a public highway....those states can enact and enforce their own traffic laws.


Dale....once again....chokes on his PBR tall boy as his sovereign citizen clan tries to pick each others pubes out of their beards.

 

[bucs90]

I know what size hole that cop's. 40 S&W is gonna leave coming out of your body if you don't shut your mouth and do what he tells you to.... and I'll be on HIS side if he does it.

I hear this Sovereign Citizen crap constantly and it's total BS so far as I'm concerned. If you want to be a citizen, follow the laws. If not, please go the hell away.

No, dumb ass, it's pre 14th amendment citizenship and "no", I have no desire to be a U.S citizen pledging loyalty to this foreign corporate "gubermint" entity whose headquarters are in Washington D.C. My right to exist on this planet are not "privileges" granted to me by a benevolent "gubermint" that can decide to take those privileges away at their whim. People have got to wake up as to what has been done to them. We are being squeezed and it has gotten monumentally worse since 9/11. This is a nation full of apathetic sheeple.

"Pre" 14th Amendment. Meaning....the Constitution was updated by We The People. You can't nullify the law just because you don't like it.

I never knew you were such a die hard retard.

So let me guess....you think you're also allowed to buy an F16 (if you had the money for one) and fly it around America with no pilots license...and land/take off at any airport you wish because...well....you have a right to travel. Right???


You people should be deported with all the street thugs.

Why don't you do a little research about the REAL meaning of the 14th amendment and how we went from state citizens to being under federal authority before you shoot of your big mouth? Check into what the Act of 1871 was all about. So many people run at the gums before they do any checking and they don't have a fucking clue as to how they became debt slaves. I know more than you. I live and breathe this stuff.

Are you a practicing lawyer??? If not...then no...you don't know more than me on the law.

But I'll play along with your childish fantasy world. How am I a "debt slave"??? See...I'm debt free. Yes. Debt free. Not even a credit card payment.

Ooooh....because I have to pay taxes? Including property taxes?? Oh the horror!!! But....i have an alarm on my home. And....the cops or firemen who rush to help if that alarm goes off....my taxes pay for that. Oh....awesome. Good deal there.


I dealt with more of you sovereign citizen morons in North Georgia than i care to remember. If you want to play the game you'll lose....because you're so incredibly wrong.

Well, I am working today and can only post sporadically but this is something I wrote awhile back. This is a good start and this is all easily validated.

We are not free.....at least not in the true sense of the word and we have never been truly free, at least not in our lifetime. What we were taught in school about our history was a complete and total lie. The 13th amendment did not free the slaves but rather it made all of us subject to VOLUNTARY servitude. The 14 amendment made us all subjects of the USA.INC that was finally incorporated with the Act of 1871 where we know longer had rights but privileges. The enslavement of the people of this country had to happen in stages because a full frontal assault would have never been allowed to happen...even as illiterate as most people were back then...... the fact is, the international bankers took control of a big piece of the American pie due to the debt created by the Civil War even in spite of Lincoln' greenback dollar.

The next stage was the insertion of Rothschild agents like the Rockefeller family, the Harrimans, DuPonts, House of Morgan, Carnegie and eventually even funded Henry Ford to set up monopolies. The game Monopoly is all about the Rothschilds giving seed money to select few in order for them to monopolize industries like steel, chemicals, oil, the railroads, banking to fund them and the horseless carriage where they worked out sweet deals between each other in order to drive out and break competition. This is what happened during the industrial age but the biggest prize was complete control of our money supply...that was the sweetest plum on the tree. They used their wealth and influence to cause the panics of 1907 and 1910 that caused a run on the banks. This made the people clamor for a cure to the very problem that they caused. So they came up with the Federal Reserve Act which was passed in 1913 when most of Congress was heading home on Christmas vacation. But as a side note (and in order to move Woodrow Wilson to sign off on this), USA.INC declared bankruptcy in 1912 and it was JP Morgan, using Rothschild silver that bailed out the banks temporarily.USA.INC was broke and had twenty years to pay of the debt. Enter the Federal Reserve Act and the international bankers that took control over the printing press. The international bankers got what they wanted....which was control over our money system...like Mayer Amschel Rothschild said "Give me control of a nation's currency and I care not whom makes their laws"....

So, now America is entering the roaring 20's and the bankers of the Fed affiliated banks are lending out money allowing people to buy a 100 dollars worth of stock for ten dollars down...but there was a hitch.....a margin call could be called at any time. People are making money hand over fist and life is good. At the peak of the market, the international bankers and their agents silently pull out of the market and then make the dreaded margin call. Stockholders run to the unaffiliated banks to pull out what they believe is where their money is stored only to find out that there isn't enough in the vaults to pay back their debt.....so the market crashes and these thieving bastards rush in and buy up controlling shares of the corporations that they coveted and bought up unaffiliated banks assuring them that they would insure part of the deposits of the people. It was one of the biggest heists in the history of the world.

Now to explain as to how the Crash of 1929 was artificially created, From 1923 until 1929, the Fed inflated the money supply by over 60 percent and most of it was used to invest in the stock market and then suddenly reversed it's easy money policy as this was when the balloon was about to pop. The bankers pulled out of the market and made tremendous profits while it was high. The House of Rothschild did the same thing to the British market as they did to Wall Street during the war between Britain and France. Back in those days only couriers were allowed to go through enemy lines. Rothschild had a courier that made it through a full 24 hours before the others did and reported that Napoleon had been defeated. Rothschild started unloading his British bonds and others watching this figured that Rothschild had inside information and followed suit thinking that France had won.......prices plunged and Rothschild agents swooped into buy up those bonds for pennies on the dollar. In one day Nathan Rothschild ended up owning the British monetary system. They repeated the same thing with the Crash of 1929. What is so ironic and sad about this was the that Federal Reserve central bank was sold to the American people as a safe guard against the very thing that they caused. Seven million people died during the Depression due to starvation and mal-nutrition all so a bunch of greedy bankers could own what was left.

Due to USA.INC not being able to pay their debt or re-organize from the bankruptcy of 1912 after the twenty year period was up. FDR dissolved the standing Federal government with the Emergency Banking Act of 1933 (48 Stat.1, Public Law 89-719 as it was bankrupt and insolvent. Due to this bankruptcy, all new money has to be borrowed into existence. All states started issuing serial-numbered, certificated “warehouse receipts” for births and marriages in order to pledge us as collateral against those loans and municipal bonds taken out with the Federal Reserve’s banks. The “Full faith and Credit” of the American people is said to be that which back the nation’s debt. That simply means the American people’s ability to labor and pay back that debt. In essence, we became a surety on the debt as our birth certificates were "monetized" being that they were printed on bond paper and using actuary tables, they attach a starting value based on what you will earn, the taxes and fees you pay. The bank made themselves the trustee of that bond and will collect the balance of it when you die with the death certificate.

This is a speech given by James Traficant, a democrat rep from Ohio that dared to tell the truth....now you know why he was drummed out of politics and put in jail on trumped up charges. It's an excellent essay on what has been done to us and is something you should all read.


Speaker-Rep. James Traficant, Jr. (Ohio) addressing the House:

"Mr. Speaker, we are here now in chapter 11.. Members of Congress are official trustees presiding over the greatest reorganization of any Bankrupt entity in world history, the U.S. Government. We are setting forth hopefully, a blueprint for our future. There are some who say it is a coroner’s report that will lead to our demise.

It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1, Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and insolvent. H.J.R. 192, 73rd Congress m session June 5, 1933 - Joint Resolution To Suspend The Gold Standard and Abrogate The Gold Clause dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official capacities of all United States Governmental Offices, Officers, and Departments and is further evidence that the United States Federal Government exists today in name only.

The receivers of the United States Bankruptcy are the International Bankers, via the United Nations, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. All United States Offices, Officials, and Departments are now operating within a de facto status in name only under Emergency War Powers. With the Constitutional Republican form of Government now dissolved, the receivers of the Bankruptcy have adopted a new form of government for the United States. This new form of government is known as a Democracy, being an established Socialist/Communist order under a new governor for America. This act was instituted and established by transferring and/or placing the Office of the Secretary of Treasury to that of the Governor of the International Monetary Fund. Public Law 94-564, page 8, Section H.R. 13955 reads in part: "The U.S. Secretary of Treasury receives no compensation for representing the United States?’

Gold and silver were such a powerful money during the founding of the united states of America, that the founding fathers declared that only gold or silver coins can be "money" in America. Since gold and silver coinage were heavy and inconvenient for a lot of transactions, they were stored in banks and a claim check was issued as a money substitute. People traded their coupons as money, or "currency." Currency is not money, but a money substitute. Redeemable currency must promise to pay a dollar equivalent in gold or silver money. Federal Reserve Notes (FRNs) make no such promises, and are not "money." A Federal Reserve Note is a debt obligation of the federal United States government, not "money?’ The federal United States government and the U.S. Congress were not and have never been authorized by the Constitution for the united states of America to issue currency of any kind, but only lawful money, -gold and silver coin.

It is essential that we comprehend the distinction between real money and paper money substitute. One cannot get rich by accumulating money substitutes, one can only get deeper into debt. We the People no longer have any "money." Most Americans have not been paid any "money" for a very long time, perhaps not in their entire life. Now do you comprehend why you feel broke? Now, do you understand why you are "bankrupt," along with the rest of the country?

Federal Reserve Notes (FRNs) are unsigned checks written on a closed account. FRNs are an inflatable paper system designed to create debt through inflation (devaluation of currency). when ever there is an increase of the supply of a money substitute in the economy without a corresponding increase in the gold and silver backing, inflation occurs.

Inflation is an invisible form of taxation that irresponsible governments inflict on their citizens. The Federal Reserve Bank who controls the supply and movement of FRNs has everybody fooled. They have access to an unlimited supply of FRNs, paying only for the printing costs of what they need. FRNs are nothing more than promissory notes for U.S. Treasury securities (T-Bills) - a promise to pay the debt to the Federal Reserve Bank.

There is a fundamental difference between "paying" and "discharging" a debt. To pay a debt, you must pay with value or substance (i.e. gold, silver, barter or a commodity). With FRNs, you can only discharge a debt. You cannot pay a debt with a debt currency system. You cannot service a debt with a currency that has no backing in value or substance. No contract in Common law is valid unless it involves an exchange of "good & valuable consideration." Unpayable debt transfers power and control to the sovereign power structure that has no interest in money, law, equity or justice because they have so much wealth already.

Their lust is for power and control. Since the inception of central banking, they have controlled the fates of nations.

The Federal Reserve System is based on the Canon law and the principles of sovereignty protected in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. In fact, the international bankers used a "Canon Law Trust" as their model, adding stock and naming it a "Joint Stock Trust." The U.S. Congress had passed a law making it illegal for any legal "person" to duplicate a "Joint Stock Trust" in 1873. The Federal Reserve Act was legislated post-facto (to 1870), although post-facto laws are strictly forbidden by the Constitution. [13]

The Federal Reserve System is a sovereign power structure separate and distinct from the federal United States government. The Federal Reserve is a maritime lender, and/or maritime insurance underwriter to the federal United States operating exclusively under Admiralty/Maritime law. The lender or underwriter bears the risks, and the Maritime law compelling specific performance in paying the interest, or premiums are the same.

Assets of the debtor can also be hypothecated (to pledge something as a security without taking possession of it.) as security by the lender or underwriter. The Federal Reserve Act stipulated that the interest on the debt was to be paid in gold. There was no stipulation in the Federal Reserve Act for ever paying the principle.

Prior to 1913, most Americans owned clear, allodial title to property, free and clear of any liens or mortgages until the Federal Reserve Act (1913)

"Hypothecated" all property within the federal United States to the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve, -in which the Trustees (stockholders) held legal title. The U.S. citizen (tenant, franchisee) was registered as a "beneficiary" of the trust via his/her birth certificate. In 1933, the federal United States hypothecated all of the present and future properties, assets and labor of their "subjects," the 14th Amendment U.S. citizen, to the Federal Reserve System.

In return, the Federal Reserve System agreed to extend the federal United States corporation all the credit "money substitute" it needed. Like any other debtor, the federal United States government had to assign collateral and security to their creditors as a condition of the loan. Since the federal United States didn’t have any assets, they assigned the private property of their "economic slaves", the U.S. citizens as collateral against the unpayable federal debt. They also pledged the unincorporated federal territories, national parks forests, birth certificates, and nonprofit organizations, as collateral against the federal debt. All has already been transferred as payment to the international bankers.

Unwittingly, America has returned to its pre-American Revolution, feudal roots whereby all land is held by a sovereign and the common people had no rights to hold allodial title to property. Once again, We the People are the tenants and sharecroppers renting our own property from a Sovereign in the guise of the Federal Reserve Bank. We the people have exchanged one master for another.

This has been going on for over eighty years without the "informed knowledge" of the American people, without a voice protesting loud enough. Now it’s easy to grasp why America is fundamentally bankrupt.

Why don’t more people own their properties outright?

Why are 90% of Americans mortgaged to the hilt and have little or no assets after all debts and liabilities have been paid? Why does it feel like you are working harder and harder and getting less and less?

We are reaping what has been sown, and the results of our harvest is a painful bankruptcy, and a foreclosure on American property, precious liberties, and a way of life. Few of our elected representatives in Washington, D.C. have dared to tell the truth. The federal United States is bankrupt. Our children will inherit this unpayable debt, and the tyranny to enforce paying it.

America has become completely bankrupt in world leadership, financial credit and its reputation for courage, vision and human rights. This is an undeclared economic war, bankruptcy, and economic slavery of the most corrupt order! Wake up America! Take back your Country."

Wow Dale. That entire novel. All debunked by a simple analysis of why the word "corporate" appears once in the law:

Is the United States a for-profit corporation?


It simply clarifies what the government's role will be in civil debt collection resulting from civil court rulings. So.....if Dales sovereign citizen encampment fires a rogue bullet that hits someone in the leg....and they sue Dale for it.....and they win a $100,000 ruling.....and Dale says "fuck you I'm not paying"....then guess what???

Does the victim have to take a gun and make Dale pay his debt? No. The government will do it on behalf of the tax payer.


Dale....once again....made to be seen as the idiot he is.

 

[Dale Smith]

Dales silly "Right to Travel" argument??? It was originally (before cars existed) meant as a right to go from one state to another. Kinda like how the EU allows free travel to go from one EU member into another.

So....if....say....Texas wanted to build a wall and keep all non-Texans out of Texas....they cant. Citizens of 1 state can "travel" to all 50. The "right to travel" allows the act of movement.

But....does it void the ability of a state to regulate the device which you travel in? No. 10th Amendment.

States are allowed to regulate this. The Federal Law didn't originally include traffic laws because cars didn't exist. And it didn't FORBID traffic law regulation...because cars didn't exist.

So....yes....states can enforce traffic laws of their state.

The act of passing from Virginia into North Carolina unimpeded is your "right to travel".

However....while on a public highway....those states can enact and enforce their own traffic laws.


Dale....once again....chokes on his PBR tall boy as his sovereign citizen clan tries to pick each others pubes out of their beards.

Driver Licensing vs. Right to Travel - TLP

 

[Dale Smith]

No, dumb ass, it's pre 14th amendment citizenship and "no", I have no desire to be a U.S citizen pledging loyalty to this foreign corporate "gubermint" entity whose headquarters are in Washington D.C. My right to exist on this planet are not "privileges" granted to me by a benevolent "gubermint" that can decide to take those privileges away at their whim. People have got to wake up as to what has been done to them. We are being squeezed and it has gotten monumentally worse since 9/11. This is a nation full of apathetic sheeple.

"Pre" 14th Amendment. Meaning....the Constitution was updated by We The People. You can't nullify the law just because you don't like it.

I never knew you were such a die hard retard.

So let me guess....you think you're also allowed to buy an F16 (if you had the money for one) and fly it around America with no pilots license...and land/take off at any airport you wish because...well....you have a right to travel. Right???


You people should be deported with all the street thugs.

Why don't you do a little research about the REAL meaning of the 14th amendment and how we went from state citizens to being under federal authority before you shoot of your big mouth? Check into what the Act of 1871 was all about. So many people run at the gums before they do any checking and they don't have a fucking clue as to how they became debt slaves. I know more than you. I live and breathe this stuff.

Are you a practicing lawyer??? If not...then no...you don't know more than me on the law.

But I'll play along with your childish fantasy world. How am I a "debt slave"??? See...I'm debt free. Yes. Debt free. Not even a credit card payment.

Ooooh....because I have to pay taxes? Including property taxes?? Oh the horror!!! But....i have an alarm on my home. And....the cops or firemen who rush to help if that alarm goes off....my taxes pay for that. Oh....awesome. Good deal there.


I dealt with more of you sovereign citizen morons in North Georgia than i care to remember. If you want to play the game you'll lose....because you're so incredibly wrong.

Well, I am working today and can only post sporadically but this is something I wrote awhile back. This is a good start and this is all easily validated.

We are not free.....at least not in the true sense of the word and we have never been truly free, at least not in our lifetime. What we were taught in school about our history was a complete and total lie. The 13th amendment did not free the slaves but rather it made all of us subject to VOLUNTARY servitude. The 14 amendment made us all subjects of the USA.INC that was finally incorporated with the Act of 1871 where we know longer had rights but privileges. The enslavement of the people of this country had to happen in stages because a full frontal assault would have never been allowed to happen...even as illiterate as most people were back then...... the fact is, the international bankers took control of a big piece of the American pie due to the debt created by the Civil War even in spite of Lincoln' greenback dollar.

The next stage was the insertion of Rothschild agents like the Rockefeller family, the Harrimans, DuPonts, House of Morgan, Carnegie and eventually even funded Henry Ford to set up monopolies. The game Monopoly is all about the Rothschilds giving seed money to select few in order for them to monopolize industries like steel, chemicals, oil, the railroads, banking to fund them and the horseless carriage where they worked out sweet deals between each other in order to drive out and break competition. This is what happened during the industrial age but the biggest prize was complete control of our money supply...that was the sweetest plum on the tree. They used their wealth and influence to cause the panics of 1907 and 1910 that caused a run on the banks. This made the people clamor for a cure to the very problem that they caused. So they came up with the Federal Reserve Act which was passed in 1913 when most of Congress was heading home on Christmas vacation. But as a side note (and in order to move Woodrow Wilson to sign off on this), USA.INC declared bankruptcy in 1912 and it was JP Morgan, using Rothschild silver that bailed out the banks temporarily.USA.INC was broke and had twenty years to pay of the debt. Enter the Federal Reserve Act and the international bankers that took control over the printing press. The international bankers got what they wanted....which was control over our money system...like Mayer Amschel Rothschild said "Give me control of a nation's currency and I care not whom makes their laws"....

So, now America is entering the roaring 20's and the bankers of the Fed affiliated banks are lending out money allowing people to buy a 100 dollars worth of stock for ten dollars down...but there was a hitch.....a margin call could be called at any time. People are making money hand over fist and life is good. At the peak of the market, the international bankers and their agents silently pull out of the market and then make the dreaded margin call. Stockholders run to the unaffiliated banks to pull out what they believe is where their money is stored only to find out that there isn't enough in the vaults to pay back their debt.....so the market crashes and these thieving bastards rush in and buy up controlling shares of the corporations that they coveted and bought up unaffiliated banks assuring them that they would insure part of the deposits of the people. It was one of the biggest heists in the history of the world.

Now to explain as to how the Crash of 1929 was artificially created, From 1923 until 1929, the Fed inflated the money supply by over 60 percent and most of it was used to invest in the stock market and then suddenly reversed it's easy money policy as this was when the balloon was about to pop. The bankers pulled out of the market and made tremendous profits while it was high. The House of Rothschild did the same thing to the British market as they did to Wall Street during the war between Britain and France. Back in those days only couriers were allowed to go through enemy lines. Rothschild had a courier that made it through a full 24 hours before the others did and reported that Napoleon had been defeated. Rothschild started unloading his British bonds and others watching this figured that Rothschild had inside information and followed suit thinking that France had won.......prices plunged and Rothschild agents swooped into buy up those bonds for pennies on the dollar. In one day Nathan Rothschild ended up owning the British monetary system. They repeated the same thing with the Crash of 1929. What is so ironic and sad about this was the that Federal Reserve central bank was sold to the American people as a safe guard against the very thing that they caused. Seven million people died during the Depression due to starvation and mal-nutrition all so a bunch of greedy bankers could own what was left.

Due to USA.INC not being able to pay their debt or re-organize from the bankruptcy of 1912 after the twenty year period was up. FDR dissolved the standing Federal government with the Emergency Banking Act of 1933 (48 Stat.1, Public Law 89-719 as it was bankrupt and insolvent. Due to this bankruptcy, all new money has to be borrowed into existence. All states started issuing serial-numbered, certificated “warehouse receipts” for births and marriages in order to pledge us as collateral against those loans and municipal bonds taken out with the Federal Reserve’s banks. The “Full faith and Credit” of the American people is said to be that which back the nation’s debt. That simply means the American people’s ability to labor and pay back that debt. In essence, we became a surety on the debt as our birth certificates were "monetized" being that they were printed on bond paper and using actuary tables, they attach a starting value based on what you will earn, the taxes and fees you pay. The bank made themselves the trustee of that bond and will collect the balance of it when you die with the death certificate.

This is a speech given by James Traficant, a democrat rep from Ohio that dared to tell the truth....now you know why he was drummed out of politics and put in jail on trumped up charges. It's an excellent essay on what has been done to us and is something you should all read.


Speaker-Rep. James Traficant, Jr. (Ohio) addressing the House:

"Mr. Speaker, we are here now in chapter 11.. Members of Congress are official trustees presiding over the greatest reorganization of any Bankrupt entity in world history, the U.S. Government. We are setting forth hopefully, a blueprint for our future. There are some who say it is a coroner’s report that will lead to our demise.

It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1, Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and insolvent. H.J.R. 192, 73rd Congress m session June 5, 1933 - Joint Resolution To Suspend The Gold Standard and Abrogate The Gold Clause dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official capacities of all United States Governmental Offices, Officers, and Departments and is further evidence that the United States Federal Government exists today in name only.

The receivers of the United States Bankruptcy are the International Bankers, via the United Nations, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. All United States Offices, Officials, and Departments are now operating within a de facto status in name only under Emergency War Powers. With the Constitutional Republican form of Government now dissolved, the receivers of the Bankruptcy have adopted a new form of government for the United States. This new form of government is known as a Democracy, being an established Socialist/Communist order under a new governor for America. This act was instituted and established by transferring and/or placing the Office of the Secretary of Treasury to that of the Governor of the International Monetary Fund. Public Law 94-564, page 8, Section H.R. 13955 reads in part: "The U.S. Secretary of Treasury receives no compensation for representing the United States?’

Gold and silver were such a powerful money during the founding of the united states of America, that the founding fathers declared that only gold or silver coins can be "money" in America. Since gold and silver coinage were heavy and inconvenient for a lot of transactions, they were stored in banks and a claim check was issued as a money substitute. People traded their coupons as money, or "currency." Currency is not money, but a money substitute. Redeemable currency must promise to pay a dollar equivalent in gold or silver money. Federal Reserve Notes (FRNs) make no such promises, and are not "money." A Federal Reserve Note is a debt obligation of the federal United States government, not "money?’ The federal United States government and the U.S. Congress were not and have never been authorized by the Constitution for the united states of America to issue currency of any kind, but only lawful money, -gold and silver coin.

It is essential that we comprehend the distinction between real money and paper money substitute. One cannot get rich by accumulating money substitutes, one can only get deeper into debt. We the People no longer have any "money." Most Americans have not been paid any "money" for a very long time, perhaps not in their entire life. Now do you comprehend why you feel broke? Now, do you understand why you are "bankrupt," along with the rest of the country?

Federal Reserve Notes (FRNs) are unsigned checks written on a closed account. FRNs are an inflatable paper system designed to create debt through inflation (devaluation of currency). when ever there is an increase of the supply of a money substitute in the economy without a corresponding increase in the gold and silver backing, inflation occurs.

Inflation is an invisible form of taxation that irresponsible governments inflict on their citizens. The Federal Reserve Bank who controls the supply and movement of FRNs has everybody fooled. They have access to an unlimited supply of FRNs, paying only for the printing costs of what they need. FRNs are nothing more than promissory notes for U.S. Treasury securities (T-Bills) - a promise to pay the debt to the Federal Reserve Bank.

There is a fundamental difference between "paying" and "discharging" a debt. To pay a debt, you must pay with value or substance (i.e. gold, silver, barter or a commodity). With FRNs, you can only discharge a debt. You cannot pay a debt with a debt currency system. You cannot service a debt with a currency that has no backing in value or substance. No contract in Common law is valid unless it involves an exchange of "good & valuable consideration." Unpayable debt transfers power and control to the sovereign power structure that has no interest in money, law, equity or justice because they have so much wealth already.

Their lust is for power and control. Since the inception of central banking, they have controlled the fates of nations.

The Federal Reserve System is based on the Canon law and the principles of sovereignty protected in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. In fact, the international bankers used a "Canon Law Trust" as their model, adding stock and naming it a "Joint Stock Trust." The U.S. Congress had passed a law making it illegal for any legal "person" to duplicate a "Joint Stock Trust" in 1873. The Federal Reserve Act was legislated post-facto (to 1870), although post-facto laws are strictly forbidden by the Constitution. [13]

The Federal Reserve System is a sovereign power structure separate and distinct from the federal United States government. The Federal Reserve is a maritime lender, and/or maritime insurance underwriter to the federal United States operating exclusively under Admiralty/Maritime law. The lender or underwriter bears the risks, and the Maritime law compelling specific performance in paying the interest, or premiums are the same.

Assets of the debtor can also be hypothecated (to pledge something as a security without taking possession of it.) as security by the lender or underwriter. The Federal Reserve Act stipulated that the interest on the debt was to be paid in gold. There was no stipulation in the Federal Reserve Act for ever paying the principle.

Prior to 1913, most Americans owned clear, allodial title to property, free and clear of any liens or mortgages until the Federal Reserve Act (1913)

"Hypothecated" all property within the federal United States to the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve, -in which the Trustees (stockholders) held legal title. The U.S. citizen (tenant, franchisee) was registered as a "beneficiary" of the trust via his/her birth certificate. In 1933, the federal United States hypothecated all of the present and future properties, assets and labor of their "subjects," the 14th Amendment U.S. citizen, to the Federal Reserve System.

In return, the Federal Reserve System agreed to extend the federal United States corporation all the credit "money substitute" it needed. Like any other debtor, the federal United States government had to assign collateral and security to their creditors as a condition of the loan. Since the federal United States didn’t have any assets, they assigned the private property of their "economic slaves", the U.S. citizens as collateral against the unpayable federal debt. They also pledged the unincorporated federal territories, national parks forests, birth certificates, and nonprofit organizations, as collateral against the federal debt. All has already been transferred as payment to the international bankers.

Unwittingly, America has returned to its pre-American Revolution, feudal roots whereby all land is held by a sovereign and the common people had no rights to hold allodial title to property. Once again, We the People are the tenants and sharecroppers renting our own property from a Sovereign in the guise of the Federal Reserve Bank. We the people have exchanged one master for another.

This has been going on for over eighty years without the "informed knowledge" of the American people, without a voice protesting loud enough. Now it’s easy to grasp why America is fundamentally bankrupt.

Why don’t more people own their properties outright?

Why are 90% of Americans mortgaged to the hilt and have little or no assets after all debts and liabilities have been paid? Why does it feel like you are working harder and harder and getting less and less?

We are reaping what has been sown, and the results of our harvest is a painful bankruptcy, and a foreclosure on American property, precious liberties, and a way of life. Few of our elected representatives in Washington, D.C. have dared to tell the truth. The federal United States is bankrupt. Our children will inherit this unpayable debt, and the tyranny to enforce paying it.

America has become completely bankrupt in world leadership, financial credit and its reputation for courage, vision and human rights. This is an undeclared economic war, bankruptcy, and economic slavery of the most corrupt order! Wake up America! Take back your Country."

Wow Dale. That entire novel. All debunked by a simple analysis of why the word "corporate" appears once in the law:

Is the United States a for-profit corporation?

You can find all of these "gubermint" corporations on Dun and Bradstreet and for a fee you can look up their credit rating and financial status. They have to fill out a CAFR (Comprehensive Annual Financial Report) which is required of ALL corporations and some of these states like California are sitting on TRILLIONS in assets....sounds like a "for profit" venture to me, no???

 

[bucs90]

Dale says "why are 90% of Americans in debt" blah blah blah and getting less and less and paying more and more???

Because Dale....those people are morons. Like you.

They live above their means. Buy homes and cars they cannot afford.

It's not some European world Bank conspiracy to enslave the sovereign citizens of the land known as America.

It's Jack and Jill owning a 2002 Honda and 800 square foot apartment....and trying to buy a 2016 BMW and 2500 square foot house....and taking on WAY TOO MUCH debt that they can't afford.


Once again....Dales idiot side shines.

 

[Dale Smith]

Dale says "why are 90% of Americans in debt" blah blah blah and getting less and less and paying more and more???

Because Dale....those people are morons. Like you.

They live above their means. Buy homes and cars they cannot afford.

It's not some European world Bank conspiracy to enslave the sovereign citizens of the land known as America.

It's Jack and Jill owning a 2002 Honda and 800 square foot apartment....and trying to buy a 2016 BMW and 2500 square foot house....and taking on WAY TOO MUCH debt that they can't afford.


Once again....Dales idiot side shines.

Dipshit, 71 percent of everyone that even has a job makes less than 50K a year. 51 percent make less than 30K and 34 percent make less than 20K....once again you come off looking like an idiot.

 

[bucs90]

"Pre" 14th Amendment. Meaning....the Constitution was updated by We The People. You can't nullify the law just because you don't like it.

I never knew you were such a die hard retard.

So let me guess....you think you're also allowed to buy an F16 (if you had the money for one) and fly it around America with no pilots license...and land/take off at any airport you wish because...well....you have a right to travel. Right???


You people should be deported with all the street thugs.

Why don't you do a little research about the REAL meaning of the 14th amendment and how we went from state citizens to being under federal authority before you shoot of your big mouth? Check into what the Act of 1871 was all about. So many people run at the gums before they do any checking and they don't have a fucking clue as to how they became debt slaves. I know more than you. I live and breathe this stuff.

Are you a practicing lawyer??? If not...then no...you don't know more than me on the law.

But I'll play along with your childish fantasy world. How am I a "debt slave"??? See...I'm debt free. Yes. Debt free. Not even a credit card payment.

Ooooh....because I have to pay taxes? Including property taxes?? Oh the horror!!! But....i have an alarm on my home. And....the cops or firemen who rush to help if that alarm goes off....my taxes pay for that. Oh....awesome. Good deal there.


I dealt with more of you sovereign citizen morons in North Georgia than i care to remember. If you want to play the game you'll lose....because you're so incredibly wrong.

Well, I am working today and can only post sporadically but this is something I wrote awhile back. This is a good start and this is all easily validated.

We are not free.....at least not in the true sense of the word and we have never been truly free, at least not in our lifetime. What we were taught in school about our history was a complete and total lie. The 13th amendment did not free the slaves but rather it made all of us subject to VOLUNTARY servitude. The 14 amendment made us all subjects of the USA.INC that was finally incorporated with the Act of 1871 where we know longer had rights but privileges. The enslavement of the people of this country had to happen in stages because a full frontal assault would have never been allowed to happen...even as illiterate as most people were back then...... the fact is, the international bankers took control of a big piece of the American pie due to the debt created by the Civil War even in spite of Lincoln' greenback dollar.

The next stage was the insertion of Rothschild agents like the Rockefeller family, the Harrimans, DuPonts, House of Morgan, Carnegie and eventually even funded Henry Ford to set up monopolies. The game Monopoly is all about the Rothschilds giving seed money to select few in order for them to monopolize industries like steel, chemicals, oil, the railroads, banking to fund them and the horseless carriage where they worked out sweet deals between each other in order to drive out and break competition. This is what happened during the industrial age but the biggest prize was complete control of our money supply...that was the sweetest plum on the tree. They used their wealth and influence to cause the panics of 1907 and 1910 that caused a run on the banks. This made the people clamor for a cure to the very problem that they caused. So they came up with the Federal Reserve Act which was passed in 1913 when most of Congress was heading home on Christmas vacation. But as a side note (and in order to move Woodrow Wilson to sign off on this), USA.INC declared bankruptcy in 1912 and it was JP Morgan, using Rothschild silver that bailed out the banks temporarily.USA.INC was broke and had twenty years to pay of the debt. Enter the Federal Reserve Act and the international bankers that took control over the printing press. The international bankers got what they wanted....which was control over our money system...like Mayer Amschel Rothschild said "Give me control of a nation's currency and I care not whom makes their laws"....

So, now America is entering the roaring 20's and the bankers of the Fed affiliated banks are lending out money allowing people to buy a 100 dollars worth of stock for ten dollars down...but there was a hitch.....a margin call could be called at any time. People are making money hand over fist and life is good. At the peak of the market, the international bankers and their agents silently pull out of the market and then make the dreaded margin call. Stockholders run to the unaffiliated banks to pull out what they believe is where their money is stored only to find out that there isn't enough in the vaults to pay back their debt.....so the market crashes and these thieving bastards rush in and buy up controlling shares of the corporations that they coveted and bought up unaffiliated banks assuring them that they would insure part of the deposits of the people. It was one of the biggest heists in the history of the world.

Now to explain as to how the Crash of 1929 was artificially created, From 1923 until 1929, the Fed inflated the money supply by over 60 percent and most of it was used to invest in the stock market and then suddenly reversed it's easy money policy as this was when the balloon was about to pop. The bankers pulled out of the market and made tremendous profits while it was high. The House of Rothschild did the same thing to the British market as they did to Wall Street during the war between Britain and France. Back in those days only couriers were allowed to go through enemy lines. Rothschild had a courier that made it through a full 24 hours before the others did and reported that Napoleon had been defeated. Rothschild started unloading his British bonds and others watching this figured that Rothschild had inside information and followed suit thinking that France had won.......prices plunged and Rothschild agents swooped into buy up those bonds for pennies on the dollar. In one day Nathan Rothschild ended up owning the British monetary system. They repeated the same thing with the Crash of 1929. What is so ironic and sad about this was the that Federal Reserve central bank was sold to the American people as a safe guard against the very thing that they caused. Seven million people died during the Depression due to starvation and mal-nutrition all so a bunch of greedy bankers could own what was left.

Due to USA.INC not being able to pay their debt or re-organize from the bankruptcy of 1912 after the twenty year period was up. FDR dissolved the standing Federal government with the Emergency Banking Act of 1933 (48 Stat.1, Public Law 89-719 as it was bankrupt and insolvent. Due to this bankruptcy, all new money has to be borrowed into existence. All states started issuing serial-numbered, certificated “warehouse receipts” for births and marriages in order to pledge us as collateral against those loans and municipal bonds taken out with the Federal Reserve’s banks. The “Full faith and Credit” of the American people is said to be that which back the nation’s debt. That simply means the American people’s ability to labor and pay back that debt. In essence, we became a surety on the debt as our birth certificates were "monetized" being that they were printed on bond paper and using actuary tables, they attach a starting value based on what you will earn, the taxes and fees you pay. The bank made themselves the trustee of that bond and will collect the balance of it when you die with the death certificate.

This is a speech given by James Traficant, a democrat rep from Ohio that dared to tell the truth....now you know why he was drummed out of politics and put in jail on trumped up charges. It's an excellent essay on what has been done to us and is something you should all read.


Speaker-Rep. James Traficant, Jr. (Ohio) addressing the House:

"Mr. Speaker, we are here now in chapter 11.. Members of Congress are official trustees presiding over the greatest reorganization of any Bankrupt entity in world history, the U.S. Government. We are setting forth hopefully, a blueprint for our future. There are some who say it is a coroner’s report that will lead to our demise.

It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1, Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and insolvent. H.J.R. 192, 73rd Congress m session June 5, 1933 - Joint Resolution To Suspend The Gold Standard and Abrogate The Gold Clause dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official capacities of all United States Governmental Offices, Officers, and Departments and is further evidence that the United States Federal Government exists today in name only.

The receivers of the United States Bankruptcy are the International Bankers, via the United Nations, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. All United States Offices, Officials, and Departments are now operating within a de facto status in name only under Emergency War Powers. With the Constitutional Republican form of Government now dissolved, the receivers of the Bankruptcy have adopted a new form of government for the United States. This new form of government is known as a Democracy, being an established Socialist/Communist order under a new governor for America. This act was instituted and established by transferring and/or placing the Office of the Secretary of Treasury to that of the Governor of the International Monetary Fund. Public Law 94-564, page 8, Section H.R. 13955 reads in part: "The U.S. Secretary of Treasury receives no compensation for representing the United States?’

Gold and silver were such a powerful money during the founding of the united states of America, that the founding fathers declared that only gold or silver coins can be "money" in America. Since gold and silver coinage were heavy and inconvenient for a lot of transactions, they were stored in banks and a claim check was issued as a money substitute. People traded their coupons as money, or "currency." Currency is not money, but a money substitute. Redeemable currency must promise to pay a dollar equivalent in gold or silver money. Federal Reserve Notes (FRNs) make no such promises, and are not "money." A Federal Reserve Note is a debt obligation of the federal United States government, not "money?’ The federal United States government and the U.S. Congress were not and have never been authorized by the Constitution for the united states of America to issue currency of any kind, but only lawful money, -gold and silver coin.

It is essential that we comprehend the distinction between real money and paper money substitute. One cannot get rich by accumulating money substitutes, one can only get deeper into debt. We the People no longer have any "money." Most Americans have not been paid any "money" for a very long time, perhaps not in their entire life. Now do you comprehend why you feel broke? Now, do you understand why you are "bankrupt," along with the rest of the country?

Federal Reserve Notes (FRNs) are unsigned checks written on a closed account. FRNs are an inflatable paper system designed to create debt through inflation (devaluation of currency). when ever there is an increase of the supply of a money substitute in the economy without a corresponding increase in the gold and silver backing, inflation occurs.

Inflation is an invisible form of taxation that irresponsible governments inflict on their citizens. The Federal Reserve Bank who controls the supply and movement of FRNs has everybody fooled. They have access to an unlimited supply of FRNs, paying only for the printing costs of what they need. FRNs are nothing more than promissory notes for U.S. Treasury securities (T-Bills) - a promise to pay the debt to the Federal Reserve Bank.

There is a fundamental difference between "paying" and "discharging" a debt. To pay a debt, you must pay with value or substance (i.e. gold, silver, barter or a commodity). With FRNs, you can only discharge a debt. You cannot pay a debt with a debt currency system. You cannot service a debt with a currency that has no backing in value or substance. No contract in Common law is valid unless it involves an exchange of "good & valuable consideration." Unpayable debt transfers power and control to the sovereign power structure that has no interest in money, law, equity or justice because they have so much wealth already.

Their lust is for power and control. Since the inception of central banking, they have controlled the fates of nations.

The Federal Reserve System is based on the Canon law and the principles of sovereignty protected in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. In fact, the international bankers used a "Canon Law Trust" as their model, adding stock and naming it a "Joint Stock Trust." The U.S. Congress had passed a law making it illegal for any legal "person" to duplicate a "Joint Stock Trust" in 1873. The Federal Reserve Act was legislated post-facto (to 1870), although post-facto laws are strictly forbidden by the Constitution. [13]

The Federal Reserve System is a sovereign power structure separate and distinct from the federal United States government. The Federal Reserve is a maritime lender, and/or maritime insurance underwriter to the federal United States operating exclusively under Admiralty/Maritime law. The lender or underwriter bears the risks, and the Maritime law compelling specific performance in paying the interest, or premiums are the same.

Assets of the debtor can also be hypothecated (to pledge something as a security without taking possession of it.) as security by the lender or underwriter. The Federal Reserve Act stipulated that the interest on the debt was to be paid in gold. There was no stipulation in the Federal Reserve Act for ever paying the principle.

Prior to 1913, most Americans owned clear, allodial title to property, free and clear of any liens or mortgages until the Federal Reserve Act (1913)

"Hypothecated" all property within the federal United States to the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve, -in which the Trustees (stockholders) held legal title. The U.S. citizen (tenant, franchisee) was registered as a "beneficiary" of the trust via his/her birth certificate. In 1933, the federal United States hypothecated all of the present and future properties, assets and labor of their "subjects," the 14th Amendment U.S. citizen, to the Federal Reserve System.

In return, the Federal Reserve System agreed to extend the federal United States corporation all the credit "money substitute" it needed. Like any other debtor, the federal United States government had to assign collateral and security to their creditors as a condition of the loan. Since the federal United States didn’t have any assets, they assigned the private property of their "economic slaves", the U.S. citizens as collateral against the unpayable federal debt. They also pledged the unincorporated federal territories, national parks forests, birth certificates, and nonprofit organizations, as collateral against the federal debt. All has already been transferred as payment to the international bankers.

Unwittingly, America has returned to its pre-American Revolution, feudal roots whereby all land is held by a sovereign and the common people had no rights to hold allodial title to property. Once again, We the People are the tenants and sharecroppers renting our own property from a Sovereign in the guise of the Federal Reserve Bank. We the people have exchanged one master for another.

This has been going on for over eighty years without the "informed knowledge" of the American people, without a voice protesting loud enough. Now it’s easy to grasp why America is fundamentally bankrupt.

Why don’t more people own their properties outright?

Why are 90% of Americans mortgaged to the hilt and have little or no assets after all debts and liabilities have been paid? Why does it feel like you are working harder and harder and getting less and less?

We are reaping what has been sown, and the results of our harvest is a painful bankruptcy, and a foreclosure on American property, precious liberties, and a way of life. Few of our elected representatives in Washington, D.C. have dared to tell the truth. The federal United States is bankrupt. Our children will inherit this unpayable debt, and the tyranny to enforce paying it.

America has become completely bankrupt in world leadership, financial credit and its reputation for courage, vision and human rights. This is an undeclared economic war, bankruptcy, and economic slavery of the most corrupt order! Wake up America! Take back your Country."

Wow Dale. That entire novel. All debunked by a simple analysis of why the word "corporate" appears once in the law:

Is the United States a for-profit corporation?

You can find all of these "gubermint" corporations on Dun and Bradstreet and for a fee you can look up their credit rating and financial status. They have to fill out a CAFR (Comprehensive Annual Financial Report) which is required of ALL corporations and some of these states like California are sitting on TRILLIONS in assets....sounds like a "for profit" venture to me, no???

Yes Dale. Some governments have private sector investments. OOOOH THE PROOF!!!! YOU CAUGHT THEM!!!!

No. You didnt.

So what are they??? Well...you mention California.

Many California government agencies offer their employees a benefit called a 401(K). It's better for them...and the taxpayer....than a set pension and defined long term benefit. These governments also know that if they invest their surplus funds from things like old equipment auctions....then they can make more money and NOT HAVE TO RAISE TAXES......

Dale.....do you want me to continue this post??? You see the direction it's heading.....total humiliation for you.....I'm willing to show mercy....